where do you stand? ii

[papertrail]

this test was originally (http://forums.intpcentral.com/showthread.php?t=1692) posted in 2004. rather than resurrect the thread, i’m starting a new one...especially in light of recent talk.

so where do you stand? (http://www.politicalcompass.org/) (don’t worry i won’t eat your brain)

[AcidGoethe]

Bottom right: avoid as much as possible the government controlling what I do.

edit: Economic Left/Right: 1.00
Social Libertarian/Authoritarian: -4.10

[TelecomClone]

Economic Left/Right: -2.88
Social Libertarian/Authoritarian: 0.05

[last_caress]

Economic Left/Right: -6.50
Social Libertarian/Authoritarian: -5.38

[libertarianjim]

Bottom right.

[Biff_Loman]

Your political compass
Economic Left/Right: 0.13
Social Libertarian/Authoritarian: -2.77

Yep, that's me. People "should" be able to do anything they want, except people do incredibly stupid things and fuck up my physical and social environment. Then they must be stopped.

[Lee]

I can't answer the questions, they are full of false dilemmas.

[Biff_Loman]

I can't answer the questions, they are full of false dilemmas.

And you can't just make-believe that they're real dilemmas for the purpose of the exercise?

[Lee]

And you can't just make-believe that they're real dilemmas for the purpose of the exercise?The first question poses a dilemma, serving humanity or serving trans-national corporations, but apparently I have to choose one or the other, as though they are mutually exclusive, but I don't think they are, so I can't agree or disagree without disagreeing with myself.

[coffeezombie]

Economic Left/Right: -7.50
Social Libertarian/Authoritarian: -7.64

[Fingers]

The thing about these questions is I don’t know weather to answer as if I were in charge, or weather as a member of society and I’m picking which I would prefer.

If I were in charge it'd be a dictatorship, if I’m looking from the perspective of which I would prefer to be ruled under, I’d say libertarian.

[helium]

Approximations of what I recall from when I took it a couple of weeks ago (decimals dropped):

Economic Left/Right: -5
Social Libertarian/Authoritarian: -3

[booyalab]

it's funny that this test assumes some issues are more indicative of one side than another..when it just depends how you look at it, like-
"It is regrettable that many personal fortunes are made by people who simply manipulate money and contribute nothing to their society"

and how is it possible to live in a society and not contribute towards it?

"Those with the ability to pay should have the right to higher standards of medical care ."
-It has nothing to do with 'rights', it has to do with economic accountability.

"All authority should be questioned."
-logically impossible, you're either appealing to a concrete authority or an abstract one.

edit:
http://www.intpcentral.com/uploads/pgraph.JPG

[zhang_bob]

Your political compass
Economic Left/Right: -6.50
Social Libertarian/Authoritarian: -6.46

[Lee]

"Protectionism is sometimes necessary in trade."

Isn't that a contradiction? protectionism is the absence of trade.

[booyalab]

oops I accidentally checked bottom right instead of top right :ph34r:

[papertrail]

there were several questions that gave me pause as well. it is an imperfect test.

being the phenom that i am, i forgot to record the plotting points before closing the window….so i took it again and came out on the bottom left quadrant. turns out just 2 plotting points below the top left quadrant.

try this. for each question that gave you pause, calculate ½ a point. total the points and subtract the amount from both the economic and political scales.

do you think that would deliver a truer indication of where you stood?


Economic Left/Right: -5.50
Social Libertarian/Authoritarian: -0.51

[Zephyrus055]

I'm beyond the standards, and so I would not appear on the graph. Furthermore, some of my political convictions are entirely circumstantial. For example, I do not wish to be ruled by an authoritarian regime. However, if I ruled then I would work toward becoming an authoritarian regime. It depends on my self-interest, and so how I view a situation depends on my level of profit. And if someone has a strong enough competitive advantage, they can take the leap for total domination. The question is who will stop them and how they will respond to those competitors. It's a game with no rules. The only rules for competition you have are the ones set by a higher authority or your own subjective standards of honor, but if the competition is for the greatest authority, the imperium, there is no higher authority but the victor.

[papertrail]

I'm beyond the standards, and so I would not appear on the graph.
.......

[Lee]

I'm beyond the standards, and so I would not appear on the graph. Furthermore, some of my political convictions are entirely circumstantial. For example, I do not wish to be ruled by an authoritarian regime. However, if I ruled then I would work toward becoming an authoritarian regime. It depends on my self-interest, and so how I view a situation depends on my level of profit. And if someone has a strong enough competitive advantage, they can take the leap for total domination. The question is who will stop them and how they will respond to those competitors. It's a game with no rules. The only rules for competition you have are the ones set by a higher authority or your own subjective standards of honor, but if the competition is for the greatest authority, the imperium, there is no higher authority but the victor.The universe (God?) would beg to differ.

[cjs55]

I have a hard time putting myself on this graph as well. In some cases I am hard authoritarian, other cases the exact opposite. I guess you could just put me in the middle, but that doesn't really explain anything. I took the test and...don't agree with the result.

It said -5 econimcs, -2 authoritarian, but I would put myself at -2 economics and +1 authoritarian, just as a guess.

[papertrail]

nevermind. i was thinking that over and it wouldn’t be very effective. the test deals in quadrants, the percentiles are an afterthought.

if you negated 3 questions, the other 7 would still reflect your views and land you in the same quadrant more or less….maybe the test isn’t as bad as i thought.

[Dr. Haight]

Economic Left/Right: -8.75
Social Libertarian/Authoritarian: -7.79

[Dom]

Gandhi rocks

[mgb]

Your political compass
Economic Left/Right: -8.63
Social Libertarian/Authoritarian: -5.44

I thought this was good...

http://www.digitalronin.f2s.com/politicalcompass/images/internationalchart.gif

[Dom]

Economic Left/Right: -8.75
Social Libertarian/Authoritarian: -7.79

idealist!!!!

[mgb]

I'm beyond the standards, and so I would not appear on the graph. Furthermore, some of my political convictions are entirely circumstantial. For example, I do not wish to be ruled by an authoritarian regime. However, if I ruled then I would work toward becoming an authoritarian regime. It depends on my self-interest, and so how I view a situation depends on my level of profit. And if someone has a strong enough competitive advantage, they can take the leap for total domination. The question is who will stop them and how they will respond to those competitors. It's a game with no rules. The only rules for competition you have are the ones set by a higher authority or your own subjective standards of honor, but if the competition is for the greatest authority, the imperium, there is no higher authority but the victor.

Let's face facts, you're never going to be the head of an authoritarian regime, you can't even get laid and you are scared to death of tornados. Just take the damn test.

[Dr. Haight]

idealist!!!!

My professors used to call me a wondering idealist. In other words, an idealist who has yet to discover his ideal society; regrettably true.

[Biff_Loman]

The first question poses a dilemma, serving humanity or serving trans-national corporations, but apparently I have to choose one or the other, as though they are mutually exclusive, but I don't think they are, so I can't agree or disagree without disagreeing with myself.

Well, I can understand your desire to not play the game, even a little. Political thought seems, to me, to be largely a matter of avoiding cognition on important decisions. To "take a stand" might be in opposition to "think it over."

Edit: And this kind of thought assumes that there is an adequate philosophical solution to the human condition, instead of a value-neutral morasse of human pain and pleasure.

[Kilby]

Economic Left/Right: 0.00
Social Libertarian/Authoritarian: -0.82

[Trystorp]

Economic Left/Right: -6.25
Social Libertarian/Authoritarian: -3.44

[Ka.avik]

Economic Left/Right: -2.63
Social Libertarian/Authoritarian: -2.62


That puts me several notches less controlled, than Ghandi, and a little bit more authoritarian than Ghandi. But not that far from him...

And I think I'm way more economically neutral, and slightly less authoritarian than this puts me. Something akin to -1,-4.

No, wait -- I think that the use and application of authority, such as it is, needs to be applied to economic distribution...Buy all the pot you can afford, but for goodness sake, make wal-mart illegal. Quickly.

[rivercrow]

Economic Left/Right: -5.75
Social Libertarian/Authoritarian: -2.97

[geniusndisguise]

Economic Left/Right: 4.63
Social Libertarian/Authoritarian: -1.03

[nottaprettygal]

Economic Left/Right: -6.88
Social Libertarian/Authoritarian: -7.23

I've always thought that I was similar to Ghandi.

[euterpenc]

Economic Left/Right: -2.25
Social Libertarian/Authoritarian: -4.10

[Spartan26]

"Those with the ability to pay should have the right to higher standards of medical care ."
-It has nothing to do with 'rights', it has to do with economic accountability.

That's funny, I would've taken the word 'standards' as being key to the statement. If Bob wants to pay for some rare, expensive experimental treatment, fine. Or if Mary wants a private room, OK let her pay. I don't know if that's a right or a standard that they're speaking of. WhaI I don't like is how insurance companies and hosptial administrators have basically taken the treatment process out of the doctor's hands and placed it on a balance sheet.

I can have very limited insurance and not given the diagnostic care to detect the nature of my illness, which could result in a worsening of my condition or even prove fatal. Or, I can whip out my gold star membership ppo and have tests run out the wazoo, with little expectation of finding anything but it's just like getting your car fixed after an accident. If you're paying, and the shop wants your business, there'll be a shorter list of items to repair. If the insurance is paying, then you can bet even the floor mats are gonna be replaced and charged back to the insurance.

[Ponderous]

I thought this was good...

http://www.digitalronin.f2s.com/politicalcompass/images/internationalchart.gif

I thought it was interesting, as no current leaders are in my quadrant...

Economic Left/Right: 0.50
Social Libertarian/Authoritarian: -3.28

[mgb]

I thought it was interesting, as no current leaders are in my quadrant...

Economic Left/Right: 0.50
Social Libertarian/Authoritarian: -3.28

Heading towards anarchism, they probably don't make the best leaders for a country.

[Ponderous]

Heading towards anarchism, they probably don't make the best leaders for a country.

Now you tell me, and just when I was mounting a political campaign.

[Purple-Silver Fox]

Economic Left/Right: -9.25
Social Libertarian/Authoritarian: -7.33

[Nemesis]

Economic Left/Right: -3.75
Social Libertarian/Authoritarian: -5.59

[Madrigal]

Economic Left/Right: -9.63
Social Libertarian/Authoritarian: -6.26

[Snowflake]

Economic Left/Right: 0.50
Social Libertarian/Authoritarian: -6.15

[KuJo]

this is more for me when i take this test again, to see how ive changed.
Economic Left/Right: -6.63
Social Libertarian/Authoritarian: -4.00

ive become more libertarian since last time i took it, and little more leftist.

[Snowflake]

I find it ironic that so many people would score Libertarian, yet also score economically leftist. True libertarianism is in the bottom right, ghandi had the wrong idea. I don't wish to be "more like him" like some of you seem to hint at.

[Serotonin]

Economic Left/Right: -1.25
Social Libertarian/Authoritarian: -4.00

[Architectonic]

I believe that categorizing yourself within these quadrants is a complete waste of time.

[distraction tactics]

Economic: -3.38
Social: -4.21

[wildcat]

this test was originally (http://forums.intpcentral.com/showthread.php?t=1692) posted in 2004. rather than resurrect the thread, i’m starting a new one...especially in light of recent talk.

so where do you stand? (http://www.politicalcompass.org/) (don’t worry i won’t eat your brain)
There are few options. I do not stand anywhere within these options. The are all ridiculous.
I did not vote for Stalin. He started the WWII. I did not vote for Hitler. He massacred the neuroatypicals and the Jews and the Gipsies and the Freemasons and the vocal Nationals. He was no Right Winger either. First he Allied himself with the Socialist Röhm and then with the Army. He was a goddamn traitor in every camp. He was a deceiver, a man with an image.
Gandhi was a monster. India was far better off under the British.
Friedman was a lier. There is no free lunch. E suggestio falsi. There is a free lunch. We are all products of a free lunch.
The universum is a free lunch. It came literally out of nil.

[raincrow007]

Economic Left/Right: -6.13
Social Libertarian/Authoritarian: -6.05

[zhang_bob]

I find it ironic that so many people would score Libertarian, yet also score economically leftist. True libertarianism is in the bottom right,
I agree with true libertarianism being in the bottom right.


ghandi had the wrong idea. I don't wish to be "more like him" like some of you seem to hint at.

Ghandi had the wrong idea on what? Who said you did?

[nomir_dva]

Economic Left/Right: -7.50
Social Libertarian/Authoritarian: -4.41

A bit more extreme than my Moral Compass results.

[misutii]

Your political compass
Economic Left/Right: 3.88
Social Libertarian/Authoritarian: -4.97
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ok i thought i was bottom left but i voted too soon