Emotional Vampires (type descriptions)

[misutii]

I just posted this at intuitivecentral and figured i may as well copy/paste it here because from the abundance of low quality threads running rampant i can tell that you poor fuckers are bored.

According to some guy who wrote a book on "emotional vampires [people that suck you dry of all your energy]" there's 5 main types. I'm not a very spiritual person in any sense but I totally feel a continuum of energy being transferred among different people... I try to be on the receiving end but some emotional vampires eat my bitch ass for breakfast then spit it out and leave me destitute..... and i still love them for it (just like my innocent victims seem to still love me)

The 5 types (you can read about them and view checklists for each type here: http://www.albernstein.com/id55.htm [EDIT, this site is better]

[EDIT] I've introduced my very own 10+ rule vs. the 5+ rule to the checklists,
So see this example...: "Scoring: Five or more true answers qualifies the person as an Anti-Social Emotional Vampire, though not necessarily for a diagnosis of Anti-Social Personality. If the person scores higher than ten, hold onto your wallet, and your heart."
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just cut out the first half of that diagnosis bullshit so that you're only an "anti-social vampire" if you have 10+ (the fact the author included a higher standard shows that the lower standard was meant for the mainstream, systems work better when you fuck with them.

1)Anti-Social: "called that not because they don't like parties, but because they are heedless of normal social rules.
They love parties, and any other source of excitement and fun. They hate boredom worse than a stake through the heart."

2)Histrionic: "Histrionic means dramatic. With these vampires everything's a show, and what you see is seldom what you get. They crave attention and approval and will do anything to get them, except making good on their promises."

3)Narcissistic: "have huge egos and tiny consciences. It's not they're actively trying to hurt people; they just never consider other people at all, unless they want something."

4)Obsessive-Compulsive: "are perfectionists who dot every i, cross every t, but can't seem to see the forest for the for the superfluous overabundance of trees."

5)Paranoid: "are visionaries who search hard for the Truth. They see things that others can't. The question is whether those things are really there."

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Anyways I'll frankly admit that I'm a combination of Histrionic/Paranoid. I'm including a poll because polls are fun so choose any types that you feel fit you (and be honest or else i will find you and [censored]...




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This is the book: http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/0071352597/103-5457651-8685442?v=glance&n=283155

Book Description from Amazon:
Editorial Reviews
Book Description
Best-selling author Albert J. Bernstein helped thousands of people deal with the dangerously stupid at work in Dinosaur Brains. In Emotional Vampires he goes even further to protect unsuspecting mortals from more devious and harmful creatures vampires ready to bite, suck, and kill the emotional and psychological wellbeing of their victims. Like the fabled demons, these vampires come in many shapes:

-The living dead who think their talents place them above the laws of nature -Lords of darkness with huge egos and tiny consciences -Scary monsters who use their tempers in the same way terrorists use bombs -Blood-suckers who think others were created for their convenience

Emotional Vampires tells readers how to spot a vampire in their lives, which defense strategies to employ to prevent one from striking, and what to do if and when they find themselves under attack.

From the Back Cover
The best-selling author of Dinosaur Brains and Neanderthals at Work once again brings his signature combination of wisdom, pitch-perfect wit, and dead-on practical advice on a subject of concern to most contemporary readers: how to keep blood-sucking creatures of darkness from draining you dry.

The vampires in this book are people who are antisocial, histrionic, narcissistic, obsessive-compulsive and paranoid and exhibit qualities that can be both charming and dangerous. If you don't understand them, vampires can draw you in, drive you crazy, and drain you dry. In this book, Dr. Albert Bernstein reveals the secrets that will protect you once and for all.

Emotional Vampires are out there . . . masquerading as ordinary people. Look down the street, where your charming neighbor oozes cordiality as he spreads stories behind your back. Look in the next cubicle, at that fast-rising corporate player who is paying so much attention to the machinations of office politics that she doesn't have time to actually do her job---she expects you to do it for her.

Emotional Vampires may lurk in your office, in your family, and in your circle of friends; perhaps they even share your bed. Chances are, you know all too many of them. Bright, talented, and charismatic, they win your trust, your confidence, and your affection--then drain you of your emotional energy. Take heart as you walk through the darkness, it doesn't have to be that way--the more you know about vampires, the less power they have over you.

Whether you're stalked by self-serving Narcissists, hedonistic Antisocials, exhausting Paranoids, or over-the-top Histrionic drama queens, this book will help you to protect yourself by teaching you to recognize the various vampire types before they get close enough to do damage, and what to do if you find yourself under attack. Emotional Vampires brings valuable advice, psychological perspective, much-needed humor to the most difficult and draining of human relationships.

Now you can take on those creatures of darkness with supersized egos and invisible consciences, the blood-sucking parasites who seem to think you exist only for their convenience, the monstrous tantrum-throwers who take no responsibility for their own actions, and even those poor little waifs who can't seem to do anything for themselves--tame them or send them back into the night to find easier prey. By the end of Emotional Vampires, you'll be armed with knowledge and tools, and all the confidence you need to take on the most draining people in your life and win without shedding the first drop of blood.

Albert J. Bernstein, Ph. D. (Portland, Oregon), is the author of Dinosaur Brains, Neanderthals at Work, and Sacred Bull. A clinical psychologist, speaker, columnist, and business consultant, Dr. Bernstein is well known for teaching people to confront difficult and frightening situations with wit, wisdom, grace, and liberal doses of humor.

Emotional Vampires helps you deal with those coworkers, friends, and family members who would like nothing better than to drain your emotional and psychological well-being. Giving you the keys to understanding the nature of their behaviors and the way their brains work, Dr. Bernstein details a whole range of personality types and human responses and shows you what to expect and what to watch out for. Learn to spot the "vampires" in your life, and discover a range of defense strategies for when you find yourself under attack.

[zhang_bob]

All my enemies say I am a narcissistic, the differents is I know I am better looking than them and they are jealous.:lol:

[misutii]

All my enemies say I am a narcissistic, the differents is I know I am better looking than them and they are jealous.:lol:

Nacissistic Checklist: http://psy.rin.ru/eng/article/142-101.html
2. THIS PERSON IS FIRMLY CONVINCED THAT HE OR SHE IS BETTER, SMARTER, OR MORE TALENTED THAN OTHER PEOPLE.
14. THIS PERSON THINKS MOST CRITICISMS OF HIM OR HER ARE MOTIVATED BY JEALOUSY.
18. THIS PERSON OFTEN COMPLAINS OF BEING MISTREATED OR MISUNDERSTOOD.
19. PEOPLE EITHER LOVE OR HATE THIS PERSON.

i got 4 points out of your one sentence, you dirty narcissistic liar hahaha

[zhang_bob]

Nacissistic Checklist: http://psy.rin.ru/eng/article/142-101.html

I know I looked at it,I got about 12.

[zhang_bob]

2. THIS PERSON IS FIRMLY CONVINCED THAT HE OR SHE IS BETTER, SMARTER, OR MORE TALENTED THAN OTHER PEOPLE.
14. THIS PERSON THINKS MOST CRITICISMS OF HIM OR HER ARE MOTIVATED BY JEALOUSY.
18. THIS PERSON OFTEN COMPLAINS OF BEING MISTREATED OR MISUNDERSTOOD.
19. PEOPLE EITHER LOVE OR HATE THIS PERSON.

All of them I would be but I am not convinced about the "THIS PERSON IS FIRMLY CONVINCED THAT HE OR SHE IS BETTER, SMARTER, OR MORE TALENTED THAN OTHER PEOPLE." one. Better than other people of course I am, all people no. I just think I am better than ESFJ`s.

[kuranes]

I suppose I can be a little narcissistic at times.

[booyalab]

the narcissistic and paranoid descriptions sound the most like me.

[waxwing]

I voted paranoid before I read the longer descriptions. After reading I'd say I'm more anti-social than paranoid.

[TelecomClone]

Anti-social, narcissistic.

[Madrigal]

2)Histrionic: "Histrionic means dramatic. With these vampires everything's a show, and what you see is seldom what you get. They crave attention and approval and will do anything to get them, except making good on their promises."

*whistles*

[Ferrus]

Yes, I can be narcisstic too. But I can't help it that I am factually better than everyone else. ;)

[misutii]

I'm finding that everyone I know who is an "emotional vampire" fits strongly into 2 categories (as in 10+ checks on the diagnosis checklist) ...and then i tried to think of someone i knew who wasn't an emotional vampire and i could only think of one, that poor bastard.
I'm hypothesizing that when people have 10+ checks on each list Some correlations can be made with mbtii (because i'm supposed to be studying):
antisocial=TP
histrionic=F
Narcissistic=?
Obsessive-Compulsive=J
Paranoid=IN

I also loved how at the end of each checklist there's something positive:

Antisocial: 20. DESPITE ALL THESE FAULTS, THIS PERSON IS STILL ONE OF THE MOST EXCITING PEOPLE I HAVE EVER MET.

Histrionic: 20. DESPITE ALL THE PROBLEMS, THIS PERSON IS ALWAYS IN DEMAND, AND MORE POPULAR THAN I COULD EVER HOPE TO BE.

Narcissistic: 20. DESPITE THIS PERSON'S OVERLY HIGH OPINION OF HIM OR HERSELF, HE OR SHE IS REALLY QUITE INTELLIGENT AND TALENTED.

Obsessive-compulsive: 25. THIS PERSON WILL GO THROUGH ANY AMOUNT OF PERSONAL DIFFICULTY TO MAKE GOOD ON A PROMISE, AND EXPECTS YOU TO DO THE SAME.

Paranoid: 25. THOUGH I WON'T ALWAYS ADMIT IT, THIS PERSON IS SOMETIMES EMBARRASSINGLY CORRECT IN HIS OR HER ASSESSMENT OF ME.

[ApeTheDog]

This'll be me:

PASSIVE-AGGRESSIVES long for approval so much that they hide any part of themselves that anyone would disapprove of, especially anger and sexuality.
LOOK FOR: Bright smiles, blatant denial, and more than a passing resemblance to Barbie or Ken
DRAW YOU IN WITH: Being nice, friendly, cheerful, enthusiastic, brave, clean, and reverent.
DRAIN YOU BY: Attacks that everyone else sees, but they never acknowledge, or by simply being too forgetful to give you what they promise. Or maybe they're sick with some vague and undiagnosible illness.
THE ONES YOU SEE EVERY DAY: People who never get angry themselves, but seem to make everybody else angry. “Unintentional” sexual harassers, Church Ladies who cast stones, pure and perfect anorexics, or anyone else who would never think of doing anything unacceptable.
DEFENSIVE STRATEGY: First and foremost, never try to get Passive-Aggressives to admit to their own motivation; you will only get a headache. Remember that they hunger for approval. Tell them explicitly what it takes to please you and praise them profusely when they do it. The strategy is simple and almost foolproof, but it is seldom employed because it's hard to praise somebody who gives you headaches. Hard as it is, it's far easier than the alternative.

[Birdsnest]

I'm definitely not this. I've seen this with NF's more, and I really try to let people be what they want to be, as much as possible stay clear of emotional dependance stuff.

[Lee]

None of the above.

[misutii]

I'm definitely not this. I've seen this with NF's more, and I really try to let people be what they want to be, as much as possible stay clear of emotional dependance stuff.

have you read the checklists? if you honestly don't relate to any type than you would be either a) in denial, or b) healthy. It has nothing to do with NF/NT, i know it says "emotional" vampire but think of it more as "energy" vampire.... in fact I'd suggest that almost all people who belong strongly to the "anti-social" category are xxTPs

[Birdsnest]

have you read the checklists? if you honestly don't relate to any type than you would be either a) in denial, or b) healthy. It has nothing to do with NF/NT, i know it says "emotional" vampire but think of it more as "energy" vampire.... in fact I'd suggest that almost all people who belong strongly to the "anti-social" category are xxTPs

I read the checklist and had small amounts of 3, 9, 18, (feel misunderstood) & 19.
I do a lot of inner work, and don't feel this is me. I do see this type in my office, and a little bit in my family.

Anti social is not me. Avoidant IS me.
Anti socials are rebellious and cause problems. Its really unusual to see an antisocial personality.

I'm slightly Avoidant. But if I read the description for Avoidant, its not really all me. I am not "afraid" of rejection, nor do I "fear" what others think. I'm more simply a self chosen loner because I've never found my tribe. Here is the avoidant description, and it doesn't even fit that well:

http://www.mental-health-matters.com/disorders/dis_details.php?disID=13

I do not have persistant anxiety at all, only when I'm having to "Perform" in front of people.
Maybe I have performance anxiety. I do not care whether others are judging me, there is no
fear of judgement, its just a knowledge that when you really are different, introverted, not extroverted, why shouldn't you avoid what doesn't validate you.

Look at the description of antisocial, no way is this most of us:

http://www.mentalhealth.com/dis1/p21-pe04.html

[euterpenc]

Whoops I voted paranoid... but I think I'll pass as a Narcissist. It's not my fault I'm so great... I was born this way... is that so wrong? Why should I purposely lower myself? Just ot make the lowers feel better? Screw that!

[cryingmime]

i'm reminded of a song:

Oh Lord it's hard to be humble
When you're perfect in every way
I can't wait to look in the mirror
Cuz I get better lookin each day

To know me is to love me
I must be a hell of a man
Oh Lord it's hard to be humble
But I'm doin' the best that I can

I used to have a girlfriend
But I guess she just couldn't compete
With all these love starved women
Who keep clamoring at my feet

Well I probably could find me another
But I guess they're all in awe of me
Who cares I never get lonesome
Cuz I treasure my own company

Oh Lord it's hard to be humble
When you're perfect in every way
I can't wait to look in the mirror
Cuz I get better lookin each day

To know me is to love me
I must be a hell of a man
Oh Lord it's hard to be humble
But I'm doin the best that I can

I guess you could say I am a loner
A cowboy all locked up and proud
Well I could have lots of friends if I wanted
But then I wouldn't stand out in a crowd

[attila_the_hunny]

I accidentally picked #2, but I meant to pick #1.

[misutii]

I read the checklist and had small amounts of 3, 9, 18, (feel misunderstood) & 19.
I do a lot of inner work, and don't feel this is me. I do see this type in my office, and a little bit in my family.

Anti social is not me. Avoidant IS me.
Anti socials are rebellious and cause problems. Its really unusual to see an antisocial personality.

I'm slightly Avoidant. But if I read the description for Avoidant, its not really all me. I am not "afraid" of rejection, nor do I "fear" what others think. I'm more simply a self chosen loner because I've never found my tribe. Here is the avoidant description, and it doesn't even fit that well:

http://www.mental-health-matters.com/disorders/dis_details.php?disID=13

I do not have persistant anxiety at all, only when I'm having to "Perform" in front of people.
Maybe I have performance anxiety. I do not care whether others are judging me, there is no
fear of judgement, its just a knowledge that when you really are different, introverted, not extroverted, why shouldn't you avoid what doesn't validate you.

Look at the description of antisocial, no way is this most of us:

http://www.mentalhealth.com/dis1/p21-pe04.html


ahhhh no i think we're misunderstading each other. Everyime I've used "anti-social" in this thread it's been in terms of how it's defined in an "emotional vampire", same with all the other vampire types... I never meant in terms of Psychological disorder in the DSM!

here's the anti-social one: http://www.albernstein.com/id57.htm
at the bottom of the page is a list of statements you answer true or false there's 20 statements for each type on that webpage

LISTENING TO THE CALL OF THE WILD:
THE ANTI-SOCIAL EMOTIONAL VAMPIRE CHECKLIST
True or false? Score one point for each true answer.
1. THIS PERSON BELIEVES THAT RULES WERE MADE TO BE BROKEN.
2. THIS PERSON IS ADEPT AT USING EXCUSES TO AVOID DOING WHAT HE OR SHE DOESN'T WANT TO DO.
3. THIS PERSON HAS HAD LEGAL PROBLEMS.
4. THIS PERSON REGULARLY ENGAGES IN DANGEROUS ACTIVITIES FOR THEIR THRILL VALUE.
5. THIS PERSON CAN TURN ON BRILLIANT BURSTS OF CHARM TO GET HIS OR HER WAY.
6. THIS PERSON IS NOT VERY GOOD AT MANAGING HIS OR HER FINANCES.
7. THIS PERSON SMOKES WITHOUT APOLOGY.
8. THIS PERSON HAS ONE OR MORE OTHER ADDICTIONS.
9. THIS PERSON HAS HAD MORE SEX PARTNERS THAN MOST PEOPLE.
10. THIS PERSON SELDOM WORRIES.
11. THIS PERSON ACTUALLY BELIEVES THAT SOME PROBLEMS CAN BE SETTLED WITH A FIST FIGHT.
12. THIS PERSON SEES NO PROBLEM WITH LYING TO ACHIEVE A GOAL.
13. THIS PERSON JUSTIFIES DOING BAD THINGS TO PEOPLE BECAUSE THEY WOULD DO IT TOO IF THEY HAD THE CHANCE.
14. THIS PERSON CAN CONSCIOUSLY THROW A TANTRUM TO GET HIS OR HER WAY.
15. THIS PERSON DOESN'T UNDERSTAND THE CONCEPT OF LOOKING BEFORE YOU LEAP.
16. THIS PERSON BELIEVES IN HAVING FUN FIRST AND DOING THE WORK LATER.
17. THIS PERSON HAS BEEN FIRED FROM A JOB, OR HAS QUIT IMPULSIVELY.
18. THIS PERSON REFUSES TO COMPLY WITH ANY SORT OF DRESS CODE.
19. THIS PERSON REGULARLY MAKES PROMISES THAT HE OR SHE NEVER KEEPS.
20. DESPITE ALL THESE FAULTS, THIS PERSON IS STILL ONE OF THE MOST EXCITING PEOPLE I HAVE EVER MET.


I was in no way trying to assess you for a quantifiable personality disorder! The theory's author makes this clear at the bottom of that page:
"Scoring: Five or more true answers qualifies the person as an Anti-Social Emotional Vampire, though not necessarily for a diagnosis of Anti-Social Personality. If the person scores higher than ten, hold onto your wallet, and your heart."


Anti-social emotional vampire DOES NOT necessarily = Anti-social Personality disorder, same for the rest....., check out the types on that site and see what you think.

Furthermore when i correlated MBTI xxTPs to Anti-social i didn't mean it in any definitive sense
Analogy= Most Americans speak english [most anti-social emotional vampires are xxTPs]. But just because you speak english it doesn't mean you're American [But just because you're xxTP it doesn't mean you're an anti-social emotional vampire"

does it make more sense now?

[Birdsnest]

Ok, thanks. I must be more of the paranoid type then because from the list you just posted only (9) and (16) are applicable. I have to look at the paranoid list again to see which apply.

From the paranoid list, 1, 2, a tiny bit of 7,8,9,10, 11, 13, 16, 17, 21 and 23.
Ok, yep, paranoid is what fits best.

I fit under the people who post weird things on the internet category too.

[Justin05]

Nacissistic Checklist: http://psy.rin.ru/eng/article/142-101.html
2. THIS PERSON IS FIRMLY CONVINCED THAT HE OR SHE IS BETTER, SMARTER, OR MORE TALENTED THAN OTHER PEOPLE.
14. THIS PERSON THINKS MOST CRITICISMS OF HIM OR HER ARE MOTIVATED BY JEALOUSY.
18. THIS PERSON OFTEN COMPLAINS OF BEING MISTREATED OR MISUNDERSTOOD.
19. PEOPLE EITHER LOVE OR HATE THIS PERSON.

i got 4 points out of your one sentence, you dirty narcissistic liar hahaha

Grandiose sense of self w/ a lack of empathy :banana: :rant:

[Nindy]

Didn't reach five or more 'true' answers with the first three types.

With the Obsessive-Compulsive one I got six:

2. THIS PERSON HAS A HARD TIME RELAXING.
7. THIS PERSON SELDOM GIVES A SIMPLE YES OR NO ANSWER. (why say yes or no when there's the ultimate 'maybe'?)
18. THIS PERSON, WHEN ASKED TO GIVE INPUT ON SOMETHING WRITTEN, WILL ALWAYS CORRECT THE GRAMMAR AND SPELLING, AND SOMETIMES MAKE NO COMMENT ON THE OVERALL IDEA.
21. THIS PERSON OFTEN FEELS OVERWHELMED BY ALL THE WORK HE OR SHE HAS TO DO. (--> procastination)
24. THIS PERSON HAS A HARD TIME FINISHING TASKS. (--> a new idea has popped in)
25. THIS PERSON WILL GO THROUGH ANY AMOUNT OF PERSONAL DIFFICULTY TO MAKE GOOD ON A PROMISE, AND EXPECTS YOU TO DO THE SAME. (have become more relaxed with others, but a promise remains one)

With the Paranoid one I got - a lot - in comparance:

1. THIS PERSON IS OVERLY SUSPICIOUS.
2. THIS PERSON HAS VERY FEW CLOSE FRIENDS.
3. THIS PERSON CAN MAKE A BIG DEAL OUT OF NOTHING.
5. THIS PERSON NEVER SEEMS TO LET GO OF A HURT OR MISTREATMENT.
6. THIS PERSON SELDOM TAKES WHAT HE OR SHE IS TOLD AT FACE VALUE.
8. THIS PERSON IS ABLE TO DETECT DECEPTION IN ONE OR TWO PARTS PER BILLION, AND SOMETIMES SEES IT WHEN IT ISN'T THERE AT ALL.
11. THIS PERSON SEES CONNECTIONS AMONG THINGS THAT MOST PEOPLE WOULD CONSIDER UNRELATED.
15. WHAT WILL MAKE THIS PERSON ANGRY SEEMS COMPLETELY UNPREDICTABLE.
16. THIS PERSON SEES HIM OR HERSELF AS A VICTIM OF MULTIPLE DISCRIMINATIONS.
17. THIS PERSON BELIEVES TRUST IS SOMETHING THAT HAS TO BE EARNED.
18. THIS PERSON HAS TAKEN ILL CONSIDERED ACTIONS ?ON PRINCIPLE?. (when I don't trust someone and they mistreat me? *innocent face*)
19. THIS PERSON OFTEN TALKS ABOUT SUING PEOPLE TO REDRESS WRONGS.
(partly, just thoughts, not actual talking about)
20. THIS PERSON QUESTIONS PEOPLE TO DETERMINE THEIR LOYALTY AND FIDELITY.
21. THIS PERSON COLLECTS LITTLE DETAILS THAT SEEM TO PROVE HIS OR HER PET THEORIES.

Suppose I'll just vote 'Paranoid', in comparance to my Obsessive-Compulsive scores I can't regard that as 'worth it'. :rolleyes:

[Superstring]

1)Anti-Social: "called that not because they don't like parties, but because they are heedless of normal social rules.
They love parties, and any other source of excitement and fun. They hate boredom worse than a stake through the heart."

2)Histrionic: "Histrionic means dramatic. With these vampires everything's a show, and what you see is seldom what you get. They crave attention and approval and will do anything to get them, except making good on their promises."

3)Narcissistic: "have huge egos and tiny consciences. It's not they're actively trying to hurt people; they just never consider other people at all, unless they want something."

4)Obsessive-Compulsive: "are perfectionists who dot every i, cross every t, but can't seem to see the forest for the for the superfluous overabundance of trees."

5)Paranoid: "are visionaries who search hard for the Truth. They see things that others can't. The question is whether those things are really there."



I scored a 4 out of 5 on that one. Welp, time to hit the hay *lays backward into a coffin and shuts door*

[LuridLemur]

Oops, I voted for the ones I can't stand. I should've probably read the question first.

I fall solidly in obsessive-compulsive, if that counts for anything.

[digesthisickness]

...a far too interesting opening post...

i went to amazon with the innocent intention of checking out this book and ended up spending over $100.00. damn you to hell!

[Nadiar]

I'm sorry, but this is kind of bullshit. Its organized in such a way it almost guarantees anyone that has a brain and can think for themselves will be an emotional vampire. Well, if we're all emotional vampires, then its normal, and there is no point into categorizing it.

This works on pretty much the same proccess as astrology and palmistry. If you take 12 things, and give 5 descriptions each of which apply to around 50% of humanity, you're almost guaranteed to find SOMETHING that will make them fit.

I do think its neat how many of the fundamentals of hypnotism are used in this theory though.


I'm not a very spiritual person in any sense but I totally feel a continuum of energy being transferred among different people...

Umm, if you're pretty sure you're an INFP (MBTI or socionics) then most people identify this as 'empathy.' You're better at reading emotions unconsciously than INTP's can read it consciously.

[Zero Angel]

Yeah, this is bullshit. Some of these manifest themselves in healthy personalities. Entry requirements for becoming an emotional vampire are pretty low as well.

For example:
THIS PERSON HAS VERY FEW CLOSE FRIENDS (Paranoid)
THIS PERSON SELDOM TAKES WHAT HE OR SHE IS TOLD AT FACE VALUE. (Paranoid, manifests itself through critical thinking or Ni)
THIS PERSON SEES CONNECTIONS AMONG THINGS THAT MOST PEOPLE WOULD CONSIDER UNRELATED. (Paranoid, manifests itself through Ne)
THIS PERSON BELIEVES TRUST IS SOMETHING THAT HAS TO BE EARNED (Paranoid, Ni types in particular have this trait)
THIS PERSON HAS TAKEN ILL CONSIDERED ACTIONS ?ON PRINCIPLE? (Paranoid, but debatable)
THIS PERSON SELDOM GIVES A SIMPLE YES OR NO ANSWER. (OC, sounds like INTP to me)
THIS PERSON WILL GO THROUGH ANY AMOUNT OF PERSONAL DIFFICULTY TO MAKE GOOD ON A PROMISE, AND EXPECTS YOU TO DO THE SAME. (OC, it's called being reliable. And it conflicts with antisocial which does not care about promises.)
THIS PERSON IS FIRMLY CONVINCED THAT HE OR SHE IS BETTER, SMARTER, OR MORE TALENTED THAN OTHER PEOPLE. (Narcissistic, but what if it it involves having a REALISTIC assessment of ones strengths *and* weaknesses?)
THIS PERSON JUSTIFIES DOING BAD THINGS TO PEOPLE BECAUSE THEY WOULD DO IT TOO IF THEY HAD THE CHANCE. (Antisocial, but it depends on the other person and whether they would do it or they might do it)
THE STORIES USUALLY BECOME MORE EXAGGERATED AND DRAMATIC WITH EACH RETELLING (Histrionic; I've known ETP types who *love* to embellish, though they are not classically histrionic in any way.)
THIS PERSON FERVENTLY FOLLOWS SEVERAL TELEVISION SHOWS OR SPORTS TEAMS. (histrionic; ???)

Anyways, i don't have the inclination to go through them all, but it seems to me that nearly everyone will be some type of emotional vampire. I am three of these vampires according to the checklist (if the 5 or more rule applies). In other words, I am like some kind of super vampire. Zero Angel ~ ( Amazing grace && porno flick && jesus christ && dracula )

http://www.intuitivecentral.com/plugins/p17_image_gallery/images/463.jpg
^ ( I vant to suck your blooood. )

[Sackanaka]

I'm none of those, but I'm afraid I'm all of those to a degree or in denial.

Everyone's a vampire though, unless they're static.

How about intellectual vampires- seeking and sapping fresh ideas in "abnormal fervor"- people hate em, people love em.

Edit: You always did look a bit supernatural to me Zero Angel. Saskatoon sounds like a cool hometown, almost onomatopoeic. SASKATOON!

[misutii]

I'm sorry, but this is kind of bullshit. Its organized in such a way it almost guarantees anyone that has a brain and can think for themselves will be an emotional vampire. Well, if we're all emotional vampires, then its normal, and there is no point into categorizing it.

This works on pretty much the same proccess as astrology and palmistry. If you take 12 things, and give 5 descriptions each of which apply to around 50% of humanity, you're almost guaranteed to find SOMETHING that will make them fit.

I do think its neat how many of the fundamentals of hypnotism are used in this theory though.



Umm, if you're pretty sure you're an INFP (MBTI or socionics) then most people identify this as 'empathy.' You're better at reading emotions unconsciously than INTP's can read it consciously.

Thank-you! no one's ever explained it[empathy] to me like that, now it makes sense

Anyways i disagree with the 5 point thing that the author uses to confirm someone is one of the types. Personally I'd suggest the person should have at least 10. I voted histrionic/paranoid because i had 10+ on both.

the author obviously made it 5+ to make sure he could make some good $$$ cause it makes it easier for stupid gossip whores to find things wrong with people they know and they love finding things wrong with people they know

the healthy/unhealthy thing is kinda subjective bullshit i agree... looking back at history not many brilliant people seemed to be healthy and so if we all aspired to be "healthy" there'd be no brilliance.... and indeed we've already begun this trend by prescribing drugs to everyone and their mom for any "imbalances" we perceive

[misutii]

Yeah, this is bullshit. Some of these manifest themselves in healthy personalities. Entry requirements for becoming an emotional vampire are pretty low as well.

Anyways, i don't have the inclination to go through them all, but it seems to me that nearly everyone will be some type of emotional vampire. I am three of these vampires according to the checklist (if the 5 or more rule applies). In other words, I am like some kind of super vampire. Zero Angel ~ ( Amazing grace && porno flick && jesus christ && dracula )


read my reply right above this one. right from the beginning i understood the system was simplified. I just happen to be one of those people that raises the standards on everthing (anything else would be uncivilized)
and if you use my 10+ house rule i think everything will be much more interesting (and using this rule i've found that i relate to 2 types and so do all my good friends)

If i was using the 5+ rule i would relate to 4 of them.... the difference is pretty much like taking a test that tell you that your IP... and you're like yah who gives a fuck.... and then you take a test and it says you're INTP.... and then you're here talking about stupid shit with me.... haha

[Kljoki]

I'm sorry, but this is kind of bullshit. Its organized in such a way it almost guarantees anyone that has a brain and can think for themselves will be an emotional vampire. Well, if we're all emotional vampires, then its normal, and there is no point into categorizing it.Seems to me you're generalizing based on yourself "If I am, everybody is".

And I'm not an "emotional vampire" myself. Not even remotely. And the people I know are also not. (With a couple of exceptions)

[MasterMerk]

6) Übermensch.

Read it and weap.

[headfonez]

None of the above.
*cough* Nacissistic *cough*

[Mr. Beef]

*cough* Nacissistic *cough*


Headfonez....ick.

[Zero Angel]

I'm none of those, but I'm afraid I'm all of those to a degree or in denial.

Everyone's a vampire though, unless they're static.

How about intellectual vampires- seeking and sapping fresh ideas in "abnormal fervor"- people hate em, people love em.

Edit: You always did look a bit supernatural to me Zero Angel. Saskatoon sounds like a cool hometown, almost onomatopoeic. SASKATOON!
Thanks for the comment Sackanacka. That felt awesome for some reason. :)


I read the checklist and had small amounts of 3, 9, 18, (feel misunderstood) & 19.
I do a lot of inner work, and don't feel this is me. I do see this type in my office, and a little bit in my family.

Anti social is not me. Avoidant IS me.
Anti socials are rebellious and cause problems. Its really unusual to see an antisocial personality.

I'm slightly Avoidant. But if I read the description for Avoidant, its not really all me. I am not "afraid" of rejection, nor do I "fear" what others think. I'm more simply a self chosen loner because I've never found my tribe. Here is the avoidant description, and it doesn't even fit that well:

http://www.mental-health-matters.com/disorders/dis_details.php?disID=13

I do not have persistant anxiety at all, only when I'm having to "Perform" in front of people.
Maybe I have performance anxiety. I do not care whether others are judging me, there is no
fear of judgement, its just a knowledge that when you really are different, introverted, not extroverted, why shouldn't you avoid what doesn't validate you.

Look at the description of antisocial, no way is this most of us:

http://www.mentalhealth.com/dis1/p21-pe04.html
Interesting. I too am like that but only if its front of a few people and I am not confident in my ability (like guitar playing). If its public speaking or showing off something that I have did well or really know my stuff about then i'm either a complete stage whore, or like a general who can command others with the mere force of his will, with nary a sign of resistance otherwise. It's much easier if you tune others out by pretending your are in a black room with the spotlight on you, ie by practicing enunciation, form, and the idea itself.

It is so satisfying that when you end your spiel, you watch everyone being just blown away and speechless. Like this crazy silent echo of awe when you realize that it was *you* who spoke and *you* who put on this show that everyone enjoyed. It is at that finishing moment when you feel like you're connected to everyone in the room somehow.

[meshou]

I'm about four or five of all but one of them.

It doesn't seem to describe anything special besides jerks. I've KNOWN social vampires, and it just doesn't do the best job talking about them.