Perceiving as a social advantage

[adamaw11]

Has anyone ever thought that the 'P' part of the INTP helps with social situations sometimes?

I've just found that being easy going, or appearing a bit 'lazy' and just being laid back and non judmental, makes it easier to get along with some types, and seems to encourage people to 'like' me. And if I'm letting my hard analytical side out for a bit, some people seem to get a bit turned off. I think some INFPs might be irritated from seeing this hard analysis thing as egotistic.

I've seen INTJs have social difficulty more-so than me, because of this idea of 'properness' with speaking/conversations they seem to have - especially when there's ESTPs etc in the equation.

[Avengardh]

Yeah, all the time.

But then the I kicks in and I don't want to talk to people anymore.

[INTrPosr]

Has anyone ever thought that the 'P' part of the INTP helps with social situations sometimes?I've just found that being easy going, or appearing a bit 'lazy' and just being laid back and non judmental, makes it easier to get along with some types, and seems to encourage people to 'like' me. And if I'm letting my hard analytical side out for a bit, some people seem to get a bit turned off.

Joe Butts' site at typelogic.com says that the Ne for INTP:

Intuition softens and socializes Thinking, fleshing out the brittle bones of truths formed in the dominant inner world. That which is is not negotiable; yet actual application diffuses knowledge to the extent that knowledge needs qualification and context to be of any consequence in this foreign world of substance.

As long as I am ready to have fun, I am okay and laid back, but otherwise, people will see my Ti side and become intimidated.

Intuition unchained gives birth to play. INTPs enjoy games, formal or impromptu, which coax analogies, patterns and theories from the unseen into spontaneous expression in a way that defies their own comprehension.

[adamaw11]

Joe Butts' site at typelogic.com says that the Ne for INTP:

Intuition softens and socializes Thinking, fleshing out the brittle bones of truths formed in the dominant inner world. That which is is not negotiable; yet actual application diffuses knowledge to the extent that knowledge needs qualification and context to be of any consequence in this foreign world of substance.

Intuition unchained gives birth to play. INTPs enjoy games, formal or impromptu, which coax analogies, patterns and theories from the unseen into spontaneous expression in a way that defies their own comprehension.

Thats some good words there.

[t]

i think as a girl, it's helped me out. i find that a lot of guys are attracted to an easy going personality and it makes me stand out a bit from the drama queens. though looking at my dating record, i wonder if guys really do prefer the drama queens in the long run. however, that's an entirely different topic.

as for friendships, i think a lot of people look at me as the "stable" friend b/c i rarely lose my cool. i find that i get asked for advice more so than most of my other friends because i'm looked at as having a calm head on my shoulders.

the only way it really hurts me is with my inability to be on time and my messy room that makes me look dirty and careless.

[SheepDog]

I think it confuses people, sometimes. I'm easy going ('P') most of the time, unless a principle is violated ('NT'). Some people have a hard time understanding the switch, especially those who think in stereotypes.

[Aryan]

P P P
It clears your Kidney :D

[Tranzors]

Has anyone ever thought that the 'P' part of the INTP helps with social situations sometimes?

I've just found that being easy going, or appearing a bit 'lazy' and just being laid back and non judmental, makes it easier to get along with some types, and seems to encourage people to 'like' me. And if I'm letting my hard analytical side out for a bit, some people seem to get a bit turned off. I think some INFPs might be irritated from seeing this hard analysis thing as egotistic.

I've seen INTJs have social difficulty more-so than me, because of this idea of 'properness' with speaking/conversations they seem to have - especially when there's ESTPs etc in the equation.

I lay off the huge vocabulary. Your average man cannot handle it.

And INTJs are big elitists.

[candela]

Well, I'm barely a P, but acquaintances always refer to me as "the quiet one". WHERE THE FUCK DOES THE PERIOD GO?

[Vagabond]

...and seems to encourage people to 'like' me.
Yeah, that's true. Anyone knows how to avoid this..?

To me that is a disadvantage. It helps when I feel like being social (rarely), but it abuses my sp variant way too much. Get off my neck, people... if I wanted to be more social, I would be. Go do whatever and leave me in peace.

[Jezebel]

I feel like it hinders me. I don't like to talk in person unless I'm sure of myself, and I'm always considering the possibilities of my viewpoint being wrong, so I often just sit there debating things in my head and don't say anything at all.

[giftedmadness@hotmail.com]

Has anyone ever thought that the 'P' part of the INTP helps with social situations sometimes?I've just found that being easy going, or appearing a bit 'lazy' and just being laid back and non judmental, makes it easier to get along with some types, and seems to encourage people to 'like' me. And if I'm letting my hard analytical side out for a bit, some people seem to get a bit turned off.

Joe Butts' site at typelogic.com says that the Ne for INTP:

Intuition softens and socializes Thinking, fleshing out the brittle bones of truths formed in the dominant inner world. That which is is not negotiable; yet actual application diffuses knowledge to the extent that knowledge needs qualification and context to be of any consequence in this foreign world of substance.

As long as I am ready to have fun, I am okay and laid back, but otherwise, people will see my Ti side and become intimidated.

Intuition unchained gives birth to play. INTPs enjoy games, formal or impromptu, which coax analogies, patterns and theories from the unseen into spontaneous expression in a way that defies their own comprehension.

Could someone translate this for me? Thanks. ;-p

[coffeezombie]

Perceiving helps me realize that it's not worth talking to most people if I can help it.

[Boneca]

Depends on the situation, I think. If you are getting to know people, a P personality is probably better, since they are less intimidating. But in teamwork situations I find it more efficient to act as a J because then you can get people to do stuff for you instead of just standing in your way!
I am INTP at home and with friends, but faking INTJ at work or school. :devil:

[heeroyuy]

I feel like it hinders me. I don't like to talk in person unless I'm sure of myself, and I'm always considering the possibilities of my viewpoint being wrong, so I often just sit there debating things in my head and don't say anything at all.

Yea, been there. Usually I don't speak within a debate until I am entirely and totaly sick of all the untruths and false logic being used.

A few of my fairly close friends seem to think I have mood swings, which I guess is technically true. When threatened, annoyed, or just fed up with people I retreat into my shell and wish that people hadn't flocked to me in the first place. I tend to be the "strong" one out of all my friends (or so I'm told), as when my emotions are inconvenient I just supress them, so I hardly ever break down :)

[xavierd]

Yea, been there. Usually I don't speak within a debate until I am entirely and totaly sick of all the untruths and false logic being used.


Oh my lord can I relate to that!

[Vagabond]

Yea, been there. Usually I don't speak within a debate until I am entirely and totaly sick of all the untruths and false logic being used.
I have come to the conclusion that this is the most effective way to make people think you are an easy victim and try to crash you. If you avoid a debate (or a fight) you are perceived as weak, so they will try to kick you. If you then fight back, they will be surprised that you weren't as easy a victim as they thought you were, and they will get nastier. That of course is not dangerous or destructive, however it is too draining.

People suck. The entire freaking world sucks. Why the hell would I ever want them to like me...

[SheepDog]

I like to give them some rope by spouting off "facts" and "conclusions" then by pointing out their logic flaws, let them hang themselves by trying to wiggle themselves free.

When I bother, anyway.

[sbw]

vagabond, good call (I just accidentally typed vagabong, freudian slip ha ha ha): except for a select few, I have no inherent desire that others like me, so I just say whatever I want. Condescending asshole makes them turn tail and flee more often than not.

Scott

[Crazy]

I like having the P. In social situations, I prefer to sit back and study the other people, rather than getting out there and looking like a fool. Then, after I know enough about the people, I can adjust my vocabulary and topic of conversation to something that is easily understood and enjoyed by the group. Usually I don't have a problem with just sitting there with no one talking, because my wife is an ESFJ, and she will get the ball rolling so that I can get all the perceptive data I need. Of course, I have to put up with my wife telling the same tired jokes she tells everybody.

[KoDeN]

My favourite tactic is to use their logic against them. I seldom point out why their logic is wrong, I usually either invlove them personally into their logic circle... ie "someone said that they didn't know why people where so touchy about religion, its just kidding around after all." So I said "So then you wont mind me making jokes about your mother involving sexual relations with your brother and the family pet?"

Either that or I extrapolate their logic to the fullest extent of its idiocy.

[Sackanaka]

WHERE THE FUCK DOES THE PERIOD GO?

I would like to know too!


Of course, I have to put up with my wife telling the same tired jokes she tells everybody.

You know, I think that might be a characteristic of ESFJ's. My ESFJ roommate even made up a hand signal to let him know when he already told me a story.

Perceiving's been good for me in terms of social issues in the long run. When people come to talk to me after getting to know me, I know they're sincere.

[inignot]

Well, I'm barely a P, but acquaintances always refer to me as "the quiet one". WHERE THE FUCK DOES THE PERIOD GO?

In the US, the period goes inside the quotation marks. In the UK, it goes outside.

http://www.writersblock.ca/tips/monthtip/tipmay96.htm

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