I'll be socializing tonight.. [Archive]

file cabinet

29 Oct 2004, 08:25 AM

so it went alright.. I went to a gay bar... although I am straight I was commented on for being cute. and they asked for me to take off my shirt so I said "ok" and took it off.. and then they said I had nice nipples, one of them asked if I had ever had my nipple sucked/licked and I said no so he then offered and so did some other guy. the guy who bit my nipple was better then the other guy. some other guy was massaging my back/skull while my shirt was off. I wasn't drunk at all.. just didn't care what they wanted to do to me.
it was pretty strange to be told I was cute.. I've always felt slightly below average mainly due to my personality but being complimented gave me hope..
If I were gay, I would probably just use guys and since I'm not having any luck with the ladies I'm not sure what I should do.. I'll probably do nothing.

int

29 Oct 2004, 08:56 AM

Heh. I went to a gay bar once as left somewhat saddened.

I've got the little wrists and everything! I don't know why no one hit on me. :(

Maybe because I'm straight.

Or maybe it was the black jeans and black hoodie. Having my wife there probably didn't help much either. :P :D

file cabinet

29 Oct 2004, 09:10 AM

Heh. I went to a gay bar once as left somewhat saddened.

yeah, actually I sort of feel sad, I was at a gay bar and all these guys thought I was cute.. now I need to go to a straight bar and have straight girls tell me I'm cute.

I wish the females I saw weren't ones were are cashiers/employees and places I visit. I am not mad.. or sad.. I mean.. I just want sex.. or something.. I think it's more of an irritation. jerking off isn't all it's cracked to be.

PsiKik

29 Oct 2004, 11:01 AM

I went with some friends to a gay bar and we started talking to some of the people there( had a much better vibe than some of the other places Ive had the misfortune to have been to). They were friendly but I was told I looked 'obviously' straight. Dont know what that means - Im so clueless socially I wouldnt be able to tell gay from straight.

Just a thought for a quote based on my past experiences - "Trying to meet people in bars is like looking under a rock - your more likely to find a reptile."

file cabinet

29 Oct 2004, 11:29 AM

one of the guys said I didn't look straight.. I do appear slightly feminine... I've got long eyelashes but I didn't put any mascara on though.. maybe next time or something.

Arioch

29 Oct 2004, 01:57 PM

I used to go to a gay club because their were some interesting conversations there and at least one person was a INTP. Now that one person hasn't been their for a while and it's become boring.

But then again a lesbian asked me to dance so that was nice. The music was crap as hell but you can't have everything.

ohnoaninfp

29 Oct 2004, 05:52 PM

Is that all you want, is sex? I mean what about a companion and a loving relationship? Do you think girls are just here so guys can get laid?

Claverhouse

29 Oct 2004, 06:32 PM

Is that all you want, is sex? I mean what about a companion and a loving relationship? Do you think girls are just here so guys can get laid?

Presumably. And vice versa.

Hopefully

Claverhouse :ph34r:

Arioch

29 Oct 2004, 06:45 PM

Is that all you want, is sex? I mean what about a companion and a loving relationship? Do you think girls are just here so guys can get laid?

So your waiting for prince(ss) charming as well?

Ahh, that wonderous creature we wait for with whom we shall travel the road of life towards it's final destination.
Now if only we know where they were!

ohnoaninfp

29 Oct 2004, 08:04 PM

seriously. I am tired of losers. Where in the hell is he. :(

Seraph

29 Oct 2004, 10:35 PM

SheepDog

29 Oct 2004, 11:01 PM

I'm totally feelin ya, ohnoaninfp. My plan is, if I find a guy who likes me, I'll tell him, "Okay, I'll go out with you, but I'm doing the abstinence-til-marriage thing." We'll see how far that goes.

My opinion...If all you see in women is a potential sex partner, you're not ready to be in a relationship. Go back to junior high.
Interesting litmus test, but you may be limiting a set of potentials with the ones you're trying to weed out:

Group 1: Interested in sex, not interested in you as a person.
Group 2: Interested in sex, and also interested in you as a person.
Group 3: Not interested in sex, but interested in you as a person.

You're ruling out groups 1 and 2 with your statement. Are you sure you want someone from group 3?

I believe the AND is better than the OR.

songbird36

30 Oct 2004, 12:01 AM

We come to love not by finding the perfect person, but by learning to see an imperfect person perfectly. - Sam Keen

I like this quote on love- sort of puts the search for "Mr Right" or "Miss Right" into perspective.

file cabinet

30 Oct 2004, 05:59 AM

I slept during the day..

Is that all you want, is sex?
No but it is unlikely I will find a 'match' easily. If I find someone who I get along with and am sexually compatible with then that would be great.

I mean what about a companion and a loving relationship?
I am not compatible with most people. Love is not a dime a dozen. I personally believe I will not find a 'permanent mate' until I am 30 or older.

Do you think girls are just here so guys can get laid?
No.. I am a fucking virgin. I wouldn't mind experiencing sex though. If I eventually find someone I fall in love with, she probably wouldn't be a virgin anyway which is why I should practice my sexual prowess now rather then later.

songbird36

30 Oct 2004, 06:14 AM

no problem File.

Success in life is not measured by how many people we happened to have laid.

In this forum people will be more interested in your mind and life experience than anything else.

file cabinet

30 Oct 2004, 06:23 AM

no problem File.

Success in life is not measured by how many people we happened to have laid.

In this forum people will be more interested in your mind and life experience than anything else.

getting laid is actually the least of my worries.. having friends and stuff.. that is probably higher up on my 'to-do' .. oh well. I post a lot because I have nothing else to do.. yarrrr.

songbird36

30 Oct 2004, 06:27 AM

I saw your photo.

I think you are probably underestimating yourself in at least three categories.

file cabinet

30 Oct 2004, 06:40 AM

I saw your photo.

I think you are probably underestimating yourself in at least three categories.

yeah.. oh well.. * grumbles *

songbird36

30 Oct 2004, 06:45 AM

OK you have great eyes.

If you ever saw "From here to Eternity" and can identify with Burt Lancaster?

Division56

30 Oct 2004, 06:47 AM

*decides to ignore the obvious gay jokes and stereotyping*

*walks away*

songbird36

30 Oct 2004, 06:51 AM

file cabinet?

je ne croix pas

file cabinet

30 Oct 2004, 06:53 AM

OK you have great eyes.

If you ever saw "From here to Eternity" and can identify with Burt Lancaster?

actually, one of the guys at the bar said my eyes draws people in.. but.. yeah.
I haven't seen 'from here to eternity'

songbird36

30 Oct 2004, 06:58 AM

well I like your eyes.

pity I'm a chick?

file cabinet

30 Oct 2004, 07:02 AM

well I like your eyes.

pity I'm a chick?

I never said I was 'gay' .. I think.. I made the posts when I was tired last night. going to the gay bar was pretty cool though. I felt like I could be myself and they wouldn't judge me. I think I can be attracted to both male and females but I'm not attracted to the majority of them. I really want to get more into the drag or s&m scene but I don't have time for it right now.. oh well.

Vylence

30 Oct 2004, 07:16 AM

I'm with you file cabinet, it'd be nice if the gender roles were reversed and women had to chase men. Less work for the that way at least.

flan2dave

30 Oct 2004, 07:21 AM

Your experience in the bar reminds me of something my buddies do for entertainment, that is, play the insecurity hug game. They'll start hugging and do something that will make the other feel insecure, causing one to recoil (such as lick the other's ear), like a game of chicken. One reason I don't play is because I fear I won't feel insecure, lol. I don't get grossed out by things or get emotional just because people seem to think I should. I can imagine you being the same way.

songbird36

30 Oct 2004, 07:21 AM

women do have to chase men over here.

restricted choice (anyone play Bridge on here)?

Melody

30 Oct 2004, 07:23 AM

this stuff used to bother me a lot
like every single night i would turn and twirl in bed
wondering
what the fuck!!

but ever since i realized how godly powerful i am

i feel i care less
but i still feel lonely :cry:

im gonna play the song Dream Lover and cry all night!! AHHHHHH wwwaahhhhhhhhhhhhhhh WAAAHHHhhh

flan2dave

30 Oct 2004, 07:23 AM

I'm with you file cabinet, it'd be nice if the gender roles were reversed and women had to chase men. Less work for the that way at least.

Ah-ha, but then you might as well call men women and women men and you'd be right where you started.

Vylence

30 Oct 2004, 07:29 AM

I could call women men, but thats not really whats needed here.

file cabinet

30 Oct 2004, 07:33 AM

sb34, I don't play bridge.. I think... I like card games though, as long as they don't involve money.

Melody.. I love how your posts seem so unrestrained and for that I am jealous.. although you haven't always been like this. Your posts blossom like flowers.. .. yeah.. I don't know how to explain it..

songbird36

30 Oct 2004, 07:43 AM

Melody I'd be willing to defile you

:-)

Bridge is a great game I am looking for a good partner..

Melody

30 Oct 2004, 08:37 AM

Melody.. I love how your posts seem so unrestrained and for that I am jealous.. although you haven't always been like this. Your posts blossom like flowers.. .. yeah.. I don't know how to explain it..
:rofl:

Melody I'd be willing to defile you

:-)

Bridge is a great game I am looking for a good partner..
:rofl:

:cry:

flan2dave

30 Oct 2004, 09:16 AM

:lol:

songbird36

30 Oct 2004, 09:47 AM

well I think on the basis of the above both of you would be blooody lousy in bed.

LOL

Avengardh

30 Oct 2004, 09:55 AM

Is that all you want, is sex? I mean what about a companion and a loving relationship? Do you think girls are just here so guys can get laid?

Most guys think about that many times during the day, it's the way they were built biologically (by whom, don't ask me, I don't have a religion); now, that popular culture and such have made this into something bigger than it is...yes, that's also true, but it's also true with females (blonds "always" get more of the fun, etc.).

But I can see where fc comes from (in the matter of not expecting to find someone soon), I am not going to waste my energies either, the more I get older the more people seem to be "catching up" to the way I think, perhaps one day I will be at the same "level" as potential companions.

~*Aven*~

Melody

30 Oct 2004, 11:45 AM

well I think on the basis of the above both of you would be blooody lousy in bed.

LOL

dont

judge it

till ya

touch it

babeh

Melody

30 Oct 2004, 11:46 AM

well I think on the basis of the above both of you would be blooody lousy in bed.

LOL
wait actually im confused :P

SheepDog

30 Oct 2004, 07:47 PM

While I despise gender stereotypes, I find this thread to be interesting when you consider that T/F is the only MBTI preference that shows a gender bias....

Boozer

31 Oct 2004, 01:24 AM

Guys have an easier time handling sex with no relationship, girls vice versa. But I think both would prefer both.

ohnoaninfp

1 Nov 2004, 02:35 AM

[quote="Seraph"]I'm totally feelin ya, ohnoaninfp. My plan is, if I find a guy who likes me, I'll tell him, "Okay, I'll go out with you, but I'm doing the abstinence-til-marriage thing." We'll see how far that goes.

My opinion...If all you see in women is a potential sex partner, you're not ready to be in a relationship. Go back to junior high.[/quote

I am also abstaining until marriage. That is probably one of the reasons why guys treat me like crap.

Melody

1 Nov 2004, 02:42 AM

what if ur boy doesnt believe in any religion or marriage?

songbird36

1 Nov 2004, 03:01 AM

While I despise gender stereotypes, I find this thread to be interesting when you consider that T/F is the only MBTI preference that shows a gender bias....

Not at all surprising.

Women are biologically pre-programmed to care for their offspring (which, biologically we are supposed to produce in order to continue this wonderful line of ours).

Men on the other hand are programmed to create as many offspring as possible (not necessarily with the same woman) and to leave the family/social unit for long periods of time to hunt for food.

In evolutionary terms we're still just a blip away from these roles.

Go figure..

ohnoaninfp

1 Nov 2004, 03:05 AM

what if ur boy doesnt believe in any religion or marriage?

He should respect my wishes. Why should I give up my beliefs just to please some guy. Why wouldn't he want to get married?

Division56

1 Nov 2004, 03:08 AM

what if ur boy doesnt believe in any religion or marriage?

He should respect my wishes. Why should I give up my beliefs just to please some guy. Why wouldn't he want to get married?

I'd say most of the ones who wouldn't want to get married, prob wouldn't be too thrilled about the "together forever" thing either. :nerd:

SheepDog

1 Nov 2004, 03:49 AM

There are guys out there, myself included, that believe that pleasure during sex can be mutual. I sincerely hope that all of us know this to be possible.

lauriep

1 Nov 2004, 02:30 PM

If a guy treats you like crap, it may not necessarily because you are waiting for marriage. There are lot of guys out there that will treat women like crap regardless of her views on sexuality. Some guys are just jerks. (No one here of course - :) )

Women are biologically pre-programmed to care for their offspring (which, biologically we are supposed to produce in order to continue this wonderful line of ours).

We may be biologically designed have children that but we're also biologically designed to shit in the woods and not everyone engages in that on a regular basis. As far as carrying on our "wonderful" line, not all of us feel that it's really that "wonderful."

Claverhouse

1 Nov 2004, 07:07 PM

Women are biologically pre-programmed to care for their offspring (which, biologically we are supposed to produce in order to continue this wonderful line of ours).

We may be biologically designed have children that but we're also biologically designed to shit in the woods and not everyone engages in that on a regular basis.

As with everything else, everyone does, but we employ mechanistic substitutes.

Outside of Virginia...

As far as carrying on our "wonderful" line, not all of us feel that it's really that "wonderful."

It's still your only purpose. After successful reproduction Mother Nature is willing* to throw you away.

;P

Claverhouse :ph34r:

* In several senses.

flan2dave

1 Nov 2004, 07:27 PM

The tide of competing species and microscopic entities (viruses) will eventually overwhelm an immortal set of human beings, due to a lack of genetic variation.

But that's just assuming reproduction is the only means of sufficient genetic reshuffling.

lauriep

1 Nov 2004, 07:37 PM

What's the point of having an active mind that can think beyond just sex if reproduction is your only purpose in life? Does a failure to have kids make you a failure to society if there is no purpose beyond just passing along genetic material?

Melody, do you have any extra room in your VW that you're planning on driving over the cliff? :cry:

SensEye

1 Nov 2004, 08:28 PM

What's the point of having an active mind that can think beyond just sex if reproduction is your only purpose in life? Does a failure to have kids make you a failure to society if there is no purpose beyond just passing along genetic material?

Not to worry lauriep. Unrestricted breeding was the name of the game back in our spearchucker days when cold, drought, famine, tribal squabbles and the odd predater would cull the herd on a regular basis. Now that we've moved past most of those (tribal squabbles notwithstanding) you do society as a whole a service by not reproducing.

I'd like to see tax disincentives brought in to discourage child bearing, but I am still a bit (well far) ahead of the curve on this line of thinking.

Claverhouse

1 Nov 2004, 10:40 PM

Not to worry lauriep... you do society as a whole a service by not reproducing.

That's plain mean.

:rofl:

Claverhouse :ph34r:

flan2dave

2 Nov 2004, 12:24 AM

lauriep

2 Nov 2004, 01:04 AM

Not to worry lauriep... you do society as a whole a service by not reproducing.

That's plain mean.

:rofl:

Claverhouse :ph34r:

Funny, my sister tells me the same thing. ;P

lauriep

2 Nov 2004, 01:06 AM

Can't tell people how much they may reproduce, that's applying T to an F situation.

Unless you make the control mechanisms transparent (like beating people over the head how expensivvvve it will be to send their child through college). Tax incentive is insulting, however equivalent it maybe to increasing college tuition or the like tactics.

Could we at least get rid of the tax credits that encourage people to have kids? I mean, if you want to have them fine, but as a tax payer, why do I need to give you extra money to do so? Paying for public education and stuff is one thing but the child tax credit is different.
Ok - my political rant for the day.

SensEye

2 Nov 2004, 02:34 AM

That's plain mean.

:rofl:

Claverhouse :ph34r:

Now stop that! You know what I meant. :blush:

PS> I'm not really serious about the population thing. It just bothers me nobody even seems to consider it even a remote issue at this point. Society really should start adjusting away from this go forth and multiply business, especially considering how long it will take once it really does become necessary.

booyalab

2 Nov 2004, 02:40 AM

ohnoaninfp

2 Nov 2004, 02:41 AM

[quote="lauriep"]If a guy treats you like crap, it may not necessarily because you are waiting for marriage. There are lot of guys out there that will treat women like crap regardless of her views on sexuality. Some guys are just jerks. (No one here of course - :)

James would put me down because I don't give out. He kept on reminding me how I am never going to find any one and stuff like that.

lauriep

2 Nov 2004, 02:46 AM

[quote=lauriep]If a guy treats you like crap, it may not necessarily because you are waiting for marriage. There are lot of guys out there that will treat women like crap regardless of her views on sexuality. Some guys are just jerks. (No one here of course - :)

James would put me down because I don't give out. He kept on reminding me how I am never going to find any one and stuff like that.

I'm sorry if you really like this guy but he sounds like a jerk.
Even though I didn't wait until marriage, it was still about what I did or didn't want - not what some guy was trying to pressure me to do. If you are waiting for marriage then that's your decision and he should repect that. If not, find a different guy.

Melody

2 Nov 2004, 02:53 AM

A guy might not want to get married because he is not religious (like me, for example.) That does not mean he does not love you. In my case, I would not want to disgrace a religion by partaking in a ceremony whose principles I do not believe in.

I have enough room in my car for a small party! :D We can dress up like FFIX characters and drive off a cliff, expecting the car to sprout mechanical wings and take us to another land.

ohnoaninfp

2 Nov 2004, 02:55 AM

Hell no! I depsise that bastard! I would rather french a komodo dragon then him! James liked me, or so he said, but he treated me like shit. I stopped talking to that moron 2 months ago. He's wrong about me never finding anyone anyways. He is going to be the lonely one not me.

flan2dave

2 Nov 2004, 03:04 AM

I thought of marriage as a more social thing than directly tied to a religion (even though it started that way). I wouldn't be surprised if I'm off base.

It is pretty silly now that I think about it. Some guy asking you if you swear to be with somebody, an annoucing to the crowd you're together? Ummmmm...

Melody

2 Nov 2004, 03:10 AM

hehe yah marriage is more social

but i ignore that part

because i take the words i speak very seriously (at the ceremony)

and i would have the word "bullshit" in my head all throughout the ceremony

lauriep

2 Nov 2004, 03:11 AM

I'm not very religous and yet I'm married. For us it was more about the commitment to each other than the religion part.
Also, there are some legal and insurance benefits to being married - not that it's main reason to get married though.

ohnoaninfp - glad you're not with this James guy - what a creep.

Jezebel

2 Nov 2004, 03:13 AM

flan2dave

2 Nov 2004, 03:15 AM

That's good to know.

ohnoaninfp

2 Nov 2004, 04:02 AM

To me, marriage is binding your souls together. I haven't talked to James in about 2 months. I dont miss him either. I would never go out with him. I try to see the good in people but they generally fail me.

int

2 Nov 2004, 04:07 AM

Married couples get certain rights and financial benefits. It's more than just a piece of paper saying that you're "together forever". You also don't have to get married in a church by a preacher in front of a crowd. That's just traditional wedding ceremonies, but a lot of people don't do it that way.

We married ourselves. Had a friend read some words I wrote and he acted as a sort of m.c. We wrote our own vows. Had about 20 frineds over and passed out shots of gin for my own amusement. Good times.

In our state you can marry yourselves though, :P to the states that can't.

And I'm not for the tax break just for having kids. People struggle enough financially because of their kids. A break just gives them more of an excuse to struggle. Go make that $1500 (or whatever it is) if you need it so bad. Besides, if vote to increase taxes for public school (which I would, for my own kid's sake) AND I vote for a tax break, I'm just another hypocrite, so keep the money that was already taken.

I would like to be able to vote to put the break into public schools though. :mellow:

Melody

2 Nov 2004, 04:36 AM

To me, marriage is binding your souls together.

What if ur boy doesn't believe in souls or is not religious? Would you date him in the first place?

ohnoaninfp

2 Nov 2004, 07:31 PM

dont know. Would he date a catholic?

Melody

2 Nov 2004, 09:38 PM

depends on the boy =b

in my case it depends on how religious the girlie is

i think most ppl are somewhat not religious to somewhat religious

i would have trouble with someone who is strongly religious

Strephonade

4 Nov 2004, 06:46 PM

edit

ohnoaninfp

5 Nov 2004, 05:56 PM

Well a guy should know what he is getting into when he dates a religous catholic girl.

SensEye

5 Nov 2004, 07:16 PM

Well a guy should know what he is getting into when he dates a religous catholic girl.
In a nutshell, he won't be "getting into" anything! :D

ohnoaninfp

5 Nov 2004, 07:58 PM

Groty

5 Nov 2004, 10:49 PM

Well a guy should know what he is getting into when he dates a religous catholic girl.
In a nutshell, he won't be "getting into" anything! :D

Even if he did, he'd be concentrating on the Rhythm Method. No SheepSkin! :rolleyes: My buddy was a RM whoopsy.

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