Death is only the beginning?

[Ernst]

Hi, I am Ernst, 21.
Eat, work, eat, sleep and same day after day. Then you get old.
Live? What for?
What holds you people in this life? I would like to hear your thoghts.

[file cabinet]

well.. maybe one day life won't be as bad ?... or.. mmm. life is suffering.

[Boozer]

It's all we know.

Death comes soon enough.

[Mealz]

I'm a Christian and therefore I've got lots to look foward to. I'm just finishing my final year of highschool and currently pondering on what should be my major aims for the rest of my life. I want to do something useful, contribute something to humanity as well. In the short term, I live for my latest project - something I'm developing, a new topic for research, etc.

[file cabinet]

I'm just finishing my final year of highschool and currently pondering on what should be my major aims for the rest of my life.
wait for college. most ppl aren't going to be able to decide what they're going to be doing for the rest of their life. and even college may not aid you in your quest.


I want to do something useful, contribute something to humanity as well. In the short term, I live for my latest project - something I'm developing, a new topic for research, etc.
details ..

[Mealz]

I want to do something useful, contribute something to humanity as well. In the short term, I live for my latest project - something I'm developing, a new topic for research, etc.
details ..[/quote]

Details of my projects?

Developing intranet for my school, implementing linux proxy server and traffic accounting, learning about sleep (and loosing it while doing so), reading about holography (it is sooo cool), practicing keys for next gig etc.

About contribution to humanity?

Do something useful for God - certainly not in the traditional ministry/missionary way (which, quite ironically would be like hell for me!). I'm not sure how best to go about this as yet.

I don't want to live a normail life (eg work, sleep , eat, marry, have kids, die) without accomplishing anything (perhaps in the scientific field?/ music? / philosophy? (i really have no idea).) *takes breath* I must use less parenthesis (yes they get anoying(especially when they are nested).)

[Jezebel]

I'm just finishing my final year of highschool and currently pondering on what should be my major aims for the rest of my life.
wait for college. most ppl aren't going to be able to decide what they're going to be doing for the rest of their life. and even college may not aid you in your quest.

I did that and I regret it now. I was so indecisive about what I wanted out of school, I wasn't even sure why I was there or what I was working toward. It's hard for me to feel motivated to work toward something when I don't even know what it is... I ended up dropping out.

[Ernst]

[quote]I don't want to live a normail life (eg work, sleep , eat, marry, have kids, die) without accomplishing anything (perhaps in the scientific field?/ music? / philosophy? (i really have no idea).) *takes breath* I must use less parenthesis (yes they get anoying(especially when they are nested).)

So many INTP's feel this way. . must do something big in this life...
I tried to become world champion in bridge, did not even became champion of my country. I tryed hard several hours everyday since year 2000 till yesterday! I gave up. So now I am a little mental damaged and seek the reason to live .. :huh:

[file cabinet]

I don't want to live a normail life (eg work, sleep , eat, marry, have kids, die) without accomplishing anything (perhaps in the scientific field?/ music? / philosophy? (i really have no idea).) *takes breath* I must use less parenthesis (yes they get anoying(especially when they are nested).)

So many INTP's feel this way. . must do something big in this life...
I tried to become world champion in bridge, did not even became champion of my country. I tryed hard several hours everyday since year 2000 till yesterday! I gave up. So now I am a little mental damaged and seek the reason to live .. :huh:

lauriep was looking for a bridge player...

what sort of interests do you have?

[sbw]

to mealz: the one thing that college WON'T help you with is figuring out what you want to do when you grow up (it's terrible at that--it almost indoctrinates indecision). It will (from what they tell me--I dropped out) however introduce you to good drugs and casual sex, if you're so inclined.

Scott

btw, I laughed at the parentheses thing, because I do that ALL the time...

[adamaw11]

I'm a Christian and therefore I've got lots to look foward to. I'm just finishing my final year of highschool and currently pondering on what should be my major aims for the rest of my life. I want to do something useful, contribute something to humanity as well. In the short term, I live for my latest project - something I'm developing, a new topic for research, etc.

Mealz, care to post an intro thread of your own? I just noticed you're another australian, good to see the number of ozzies gradually increasing on here. What state are you from?

[flan2dave]

<----another parantheses whore (at your service)

[SheepDog]

LOL. I have to try not to overuse parentheses.

"Life is not a destination, but a journey." Or for me, it is a series of discoveries. I've really been focusing on being "mindful" lately, which just means (more or less) living in the moment and being aware of that moment. I don't feel like I need to be accomplishing anything as much as do crave to be understanding things.

I find myself working in the physical world a lot lately (house projects, including some major ones.) It's a series of very literal projects, like ripping out drywall or upgrading the alarm system, but it leads to some very interesting observations about broader ideas. For example, when I was working on the alarm system, I pondered the electrical theory that went into the system. I also thought about concepts of security, emotions that go into wanting an alarm, and causes and effects of crime.

I don't try to direct it, which is to say I cannot express a goal beforehand (other than the actual task I'm doing). But I enjoy letting the task lead my thoughts and having my mind go in directions that I wouldn't have otherwise gone.

It's all kind of vague, but honestly, I've sort of given up on trying to accomplish goals, per se. Too often, I become disillusioned before I accomplish goals, and either give up or finish the tasks just to be doing so. In either case, once disillusionment sets in, it's just not rewarding whether or not I finish.

[lauriep]

It's all kind of vague, but honestly, I've sort of given up on trying to accomplish goals, per se. Too often, I become disillusioned before I accomplish goals, and either give up or finish the tasks just to be doing so. In either case, once disillusionment sets in, it's just not rewarding whether or not I finish.

It sounds so depressing but I guess I sometimes see myself heading in that direction as well. The disillusionment is so familiar and you get to the point you would rather not get excited about a new goal when you know it will not be near as rewarding to finish as you hope it will be - assuming you even get to the point of finishing it.

[candela]

I sometimes use parentheses to parse the sentence so it has a clearer meaning if I don't know how to word it better. It ends up just confusing people.

[Johnny]

Live? What for? What holds you people in this life?

What for? For the future, of course!

:sombrero:

[Werdna]

Live? What for? What holds you people in this life?

A question I have thought about a great deal, never reaching any definite conclusion.
Logically, because of the alternative, which, if you go through with it, cannot be changed.
Though I'm not sure that is a question that should be considered logically. We don't know what happens after death, we can only believe, and I would not make such a decision based on belief.
Probably shouldn't be a topic for casual conversation either.


It's all we know.
Death comes soon enough.
I like that.

[Claverhouse]

Live? What for? What holds you people in this life?

What for? For the future, of course!

:sombrero:



Suppose the future sucks ?



Claverhouse :ph34r:


:rofl: [ And I know I once warned about the danger of too much negativity on a board where potential suicidees lurk ].

[Johnny]

Suppose the future sucks ?

Who knows?

:sombrero:

[afton]

Hi, I am Ernst, 21.
Eat, work, eat, sleep and same day after day. Then you get old.
Live? What for?
What holds you people in this life? I would like to hear your thoghts.

If you don't believe that there is God and afterlife, I think it's quite
hard to find real motivation to live.

[Loco_Mullus_Surmuletus]

If you don't believe that there is God and afterlife, I think it's quite
hard to find real motivation to live.


I think you're wrong... Fear of being terminated for good is powerfull motive, which leads us to god and religion, looking for salvation, afterlife etc... When you come to terms with yourself that there is nothing after death, you live with different kind of motiv.... yet again if we imagine life as a cycle of lives and deaths, it gets kind of boring, right.... like Egyptians, living their lives in preparation for afterlife.... but again, who knows. I dont. :ph34r:

[Lethal Sage]

We are merely a mathematical expression of the universe. I love to tell people that we are theoretical beings, really fucks with their mind sometimes.

I ask you to prove your existence. You can't without relying on your senses or having someone else do so, that's how the independent "you" was created out of your biology. Now, "you" are actually just information that has been filtered through your senses and brain. So really, the Universe pwns your ass regardless. Now, you can experience it now, or you could kill yourself and (maybe) see where that takes you.

Either way, you're still "alive" in the atomic sense. Once humans get past the killing stage I think we'll all feel a bit safer, but whether we live or die is inconsequential. Someone else will take your place, or my place.

And if a nuclear winter spreads throughout this world, who's to say we weren't atoms anyway?

Edit: Oh, and if you're feeling bad or confused about your existence, you're feelings are a very good guide. I'd recommend meditation or the book Emotional Intelligence, or fight them, whichever.