INTP Athletes?

[Tranzors]

I hear that INTPs make amazing athletes

Ricky Williams:

He was a former half back for the Miami Dolphins. He can move pretty quick for a big HB and has amazing eyes.

Tiger Woods:

Everyone knows him.

Mike Tyson: Is he one? I don't know, he seems like one though.

[sbw]

I think that tiger is an INFP...I read recently (maybe here) that we got nothin' in this regard.

Scott

[cjs55]

He has INFP eyes.

INFP is the one type I have had success judging by reading their eyes.

[crule81]

Mike Tyson: Is he one? I don't know, he seems like one though.

I hope not. Would an INTP threaten to eat his opponent's children even if his opponent has no children?

[Boozer]

Mike Tyson: Is he one? I don't know, he seems like one though.

I hope not. Would an INTP threaten to eat his opponent's children even if his opponent has no children?

:rofl: This is great, the problem isn't that he threatened to eat the other guy's children, but that the other guy didn't even have children. :)

[sbw]

good point, crule81.

Scott

[booyalab]

ME

[crule81]

I hear that INTPs make amazing athletes

Ricky Williams:

He was a former half back for the Miami Dolphins. He can move pretty quick for a big HB and has amazing eyes.

Tiger Woods:

Everyone knows him.

It might explain their careers. Both may have simply felt that they have mastered their respective sports. Thus, Ricky Williams left football to smoke weed because he felt he had already mastered football. Likewise, Tiger's recent decline in performance might be the result of the same belief in mastery of golf. Once this level is achieved, there is no drive to keep it up.

Barry Sanders would be another INTP candidate given the way he walked away from the game at his peak.

(I still think Ricky William's demand that he only be interviewed with his helmet on his rookie year was hilarious as well as the famous cover of SI in a wedding dress with Ditka.)

[INTrPosr]

ME

ME TOO. Unfortunately I played football on a piss poor legacy of a team. I think we won three (3) games my sophomore, junior and senior years combined. Nevertheless, I made All District, All American (on some obsure team) and Honorable Mention All State. I actually had two offers to play football in Kansas, but thought I could play with the big boys.:rofl: That lasted one semester in college.

I was also decent in basketball and could dunk a dodge ball in my junior year. Okay, that's not impressive but, I am only 5'9"B).

Actually, had I not grown up in the sticks, I would have found other things to get into. I never had an interest for chess, but always wanted to be on a debate team. Usually, I hung out in the library.

[booyalab]

I run long distance (training for twin cities marathon and I was in track&field for 5 years, also did horizontal jump), bike obsessively during the spring and summer, water-ski, downhill ski, swim, and played soccer for about 6 years.
My dad's also an INTP and almost made it to the olympic trials in distance running, he's also extremely good at every sport I've seen him play.

I doubt INTPs are athletic very often but I think our ability to concentrate and dedicate ourselves (when motivated) makes us better than average when we make up our minds to do it.

[Merkaba]

"I doubt INTPs are athletic very often but I think our ability to concentrate and dedicate ourselves (when motivated) makes us better than average when we make up our minds to do it."

I agree. I'm pretty well rounded and do well in most sports I play, but I used to be a really good baseball player. I stopped playing and nowadays I play golf, which I also do pretty decent at. I think golf is a great game for introverts.

[paladinoflunaria]

crule81 wrote:

I hope not. Would an INTP threaten to eat his opponent's children even if his opponent has no children?

Of course. I threaten to eat people's children, or some other odd thing, all the time.

[Anacaona]

INTP supposedly make good golfers.

[cloakable]

Mike Tyson: Is he one? I don't know, he seems like one though.

I hope not. Would an INTP threaten to eat his opponent's children even if his opponent has no children?

:rofl: This is great, the problem isn't that he threatened to eat the other guy's children, but that the other guy didn't even have children. :)

Of course, no F, plenty of T. :D

[Arioch]

Mike Tyson: Is he one? I don't know, he seems like one though.

I hope not. Would an INTP threaten to eat his opponent's children even if his opponent has no children?

:rofl: This is great, the problem isn't that he threatened to eat the other guy's children, but that the other guy didn't even have children. :)

Thats because the INTP has already eaten them


INTP supposedly make good golfers.

I was quite good at golfing the first time I did it. The teacher didn't believe me at first when I said it was my first time.

[Birdsnest]

The most athletic things I've done are to set a record in jr. high school for the girls longest long jump, when I was in 7th grade, to be fairly competitive in sprinting and hurdles, (as a teenager). (I am only 5'1"). Later I liked backpacking, hiking, rock climbing, and canoeing. I was a beginner in everything but loved canoeing every year on the Russian river. I loved jogging, but that was in my 20's. Took beginning golf, archery, iceskating, bowling, yoga. Not athletic anymore. I hated team sports. I only really like to "just" learn things for the fun, and not get too proficient in them.

[file cabinet]

I wrestled in 9th grade. I also liked table tennis for a brief period of time in 11th and 12th. I also wanted to buy a bike this year but it's become too cold.

[Spartan26]

In the next five hours I'm gonna make a beer run, does that count? I played lacrosse a couple of years in high school. That's the one thing I didn't pursue fully that I really wish I had.

I'm really out of shape now otherwise I'd play in my church's basketball league. I'd love to join a softball league or flag football. Those can be tough. I play to win but I don't need to be surrounded by a bunch of guys who topped out in high school yet act like the games are NFL combine workouts.

[Wrath Mania]

Tiger is DEFINETLY an INFP, and is typed as such by www.braintypes.com

His persona is very INFPish in how he acts with the media... he shoes GREAT amounts of emotion on the golf course, even though he can seem icy and stoic at times. There was a quote of him in the NY Times a few months back saying: "I'm still a kid."

He was raised by an ENTP, which might explain some of the stoic attributes he picked up.

Plus, his battle with his coach, Butch Harmon, is one which he has been personally offended somehow... a very Feeler like conflict.

Tiger losing his edge at golf has to do more with that breakup, and with him focusing on his marriage.

Also, whoever previously mentioned INFP's seem to have a certain type of eye distinction, I've noticed it as well, as the way Tiger looks at people in conversation is very similar to Indianapolis Colts head coach Tony Dungy, who is definetly an INFP as well.

As for Ricky Williams, the fact he left football to go around the world and smoke weed points to him being an F. There is no way in my mind he's an INTP, also judging from his looks on and off the field.


That being said, there HAVE been GREAT INTP athletes, perhaps the best one being the NBA's all time great Bill Russell of the 1950'-60's... There are quite a few XNTP golfers on the tour today.

Most NT's in sports seem to be coaches, the damn good ones. Bill Belichick of the Patriots (ENTJ) is probably the best example, although I'm fairly certain there are some XNTP coaches in the NFL... Mike Martz and Mike Shanahan coming to mind.


I'm a fairly big sports fan, though the only one I play is golf. And I'm just average at it. It definetly seems like an INTP type of sport though, minus the fact you're often paired with people you don't want to play with.

[Spartan26]

Tiger is DEFINETLY an INFP, and is typed as such by www.braintypes.com

Tiger losing his edge at golf has to do more with that breakup, and with him focusing on his marriage.

Also, whoever previously mentioned INFP's seem to have a certain type of eye distinction, I've noticed it as well, as the way Tiger looks at people in conversation is very similar to Indianapolis Colts head coach Tony Dungy, who is definetly an INFP as well.

As for Ricky Williams, ...There is no way in my mind he's an INTP, also judging from his looks on and off the field.

That being said, there HAVE been GREAT INTP athletes, perhaps the best one being the NBA's all time great Bill Russell of the 1950'-60's... There are quite a few XNTP golfers on the tour today.

Most NT's in sports seem to be coaches, the damn good ones. Bill Belichick of the Patriots (ENTJ) is probably the best example, although I'm fairly certain there are some XNTP coaches in the NFL... Mike Martz and Mike Shanahan coming to mind.

Lotta good meat there, Wrath

A couple of sites I saw listed Tiger as an INTP. I really don't know the MBTI types to know. But I'd say re-learning his swing and the blonde Yoko have done him in. Although, it's not like the guy's playing like crap. Just not super human.

Ricky sure does march to his own drum. But sometimes the way he dresses call more attention than I think a lot of INTP's would want. Say what you want about his character, I hate he got over worked in Miami. Actually, I wish he'd never gotten injured in N.O., would've like to have seen what he would've done with Ditka.

I think the prototype for coaches has been like Lombardi, I guess an ENTJ. Which I'm not sure is always the best case. Probably more assistants coaches are I's. I wonder if that has anything to do with coordinators who are experts in their field who can't make the leap to head coach. I'd be curious to know what type Herm Edwards is. ENTP? I wonder if Shanahan isn't an INTJ, that whole first 15 scripted plays that he does.

I stood in line four hours to get Bill Russell to sign one of his books. (Of course had no idea it'd be that long heading in). Maybe that explains the great connection we had when I finally got to meet him. I had no idea he was an INTP, never read it anywhere, but it totally makes sense. An SJ would've never been able to survive the world he had to live in.

[Tranzors]

Tiger is DEFINETLY an INFP, and is typed as such by www.braintypes.com

Tiger losing his edge at golf has to do more with that breakup, and with him focusing on his marriage.

Also, whoever previously mentioned INFP's seem to have a certain type of eye distinction, I've noticed it as well, as the way Tiger looks at people in conversation is very similar to Indianapolis Colts head coach Tony Dungy, who is definetly an INFP as well.

As for Ricky Williams, ...There is no way in my mind he's an INTP, also judging from his looks on and off the field.

That being said, there HAVE been GREAT INTP athletes, perhaps the best one being the NBA's all time great Bill Russell of the 1950'-60's... There are quite a few XNTP golfers on the tour today.

Most NT's in sports seem to be coaches, the damn good ones. Bill Belichick of the Patriots (ENTJ) is probably the best example, although I'm fairly certain there are some XNTP coaches in the NFL... Mike Martz and Mike Shanahan coming to mind.

Lotta good meat there, Wrath

A couple of sites I saw listed Tiger as an INTP. I really don't know the MBTI types to know. But I'd say re-learning his swing and the blonde Yoko have done him in. Although, it's not like the guy's playing like crap. Just not super human.

Ricky sure does march to his own drum. But sometimes the way he dresses call more attention than I think a lot of INTP's would want. Say what you want about his character, I hate he got over worked in Miami. Actually, I wish he'd never gotten injured in N.O., would've like to have seen what he would've done with Ditka.

I think the prototype for coaches has been like Lombardi, I guess an ENTJ. Which I'm not sure is always the best case. Probably more assistants coaches are I's. I wonder if that has anything to do with coordinators who are experts in their field who can't make the leap to head coach. I'd be curious to know what type Herm Edwards is. ENTP? I wonder if Shanahan isn't an INTJ, that whole first 15 scripted plays that he does.

I stood in line four hours to get Bill Russell to sign one of his books. (Of course had no idea it'd be that long heading in). Maybe that explains the great connection we had when I finally got to meet him. I had no idea he was an INTP, never read it anywhere, but it totally makes sense. An SJ would've never been able to survive the world he had to live in.

I too saw something about Tiger was an INTP. Strange.

[Merkaba]

Typelogic has Tiger labeled under famous INTP's. That might be where you guys are seeing this.

[crule81]

I think Mike Martz is something close to an INTP. Although he created a brilliant offense, he cannot manage a game. He should have remained an offensive coordinator.

[Wrath Mania]

Yeah, Martz strikes me as an NTP. A shame, he's giving us a bad name :p Serously though, I've read that Percievers naturally make better offensive players/coaches, while J's defensive.

I'd say Herman Edwards is a feeler. He gets very emotional and personal about comments the media or his owner or anyone makes. He has a very good relationship, a buddy-buddy level with many of his players.

And yeah, I saw typelogic had Tiger as an INTP. But outside that initial stoic persona, he definetly seems more feeler to me. The information I previously provided, not to mention braintypes classifying him as an INFP, has caused me to believe he's a feeler.

That is a good point about Shanahan scripting his first couple plays. I also think Andy Reid is an INTJ.

Actually, I read Rich Gannon is an NT. Probably an introvert, and judging from his work ethic, I'm gonna guess INTJ.

Mike Vrabel, linebacker for the Pats, might be an ENTP.... I have a feeling many roeplaying type players could be.

But as far as head coaches, Mike Martz is the only NTP that comes to mind for me.

[Slider]

you cannot be serious?! (my athlete impression there, see? guess who!)

there's no way in hell mike tyson is intp - he's as ESTP as they come. seriously now, let's all use our noggins on this one, okie?

and ricky williams? riiight. he's esfp. c'mon now.

tiger woods is closer, but I'd go with infj - I don't see the p at all and it seems like he has a slightly higher f preference.

you want a high percentage of NTs in sports? don't look at athletes or coaches -- look at GMs. analyzing . . . fun times, I love fantasy sports.

[Spartan26]

you cannot be serious?! (my athlete impression there, see? guess who!)
Johnny Mac. Have you seen his show on MSNBC, I believe?


you want a high percentage of NTs in sports? don't look at athletes or coaches -- look at GMs. analyzing . . . fun times, I love fantasy sports.

Like I said, I don't know all the types too well, but GM's have to be people persons as well. All day long talking with agents and scouts, disgruntled players and angry owners. Then there's media relations, team promotions, league compliance. I guess it depends on the team as to who does what. I think a lot of former jocks end up as VP's because they can handle personnel.

I think there's plenty of analyzing but what percentage is guessing whether or not a certain player would fit into your organization? Some are obviously really bad at that. Keeping track of so many players, who's up for free agency, who's in a contract year, which team is over loaded at a certain position, what team has cap space, what coach of yours has coached potential team members, etc. what function would that be?

I'm getting slaughtered in my fantasy football league. Bloody injury reports. Last week I left Dillion in and he didn't even play. This week, Darrell Jackson gets downgraded to questionable and misses practice on Friday. 113 yds, 2 TD I left on the bench today. Oh yeah, I love it.

That's funny Slider, I was going to hit you up for one of the vacant spots in my fantasy hockey league. Maybe they have one for the Swedish Elite League???

[Slider]

you cannot be serious?! (my athlete impression there, see? guess who!)
Johnny Mac. Have you seen his show on MSNBC, I believe?


ahh, nah, haven't got around to it. he's pretty funny though.




Like I said, I don't know all the types too well, but GM's have to be people persons as well. All day long talking with agents and scouts, disgruntled players and angry owners. Then there's media relations, team promotions, league compliance. I guess it depends on the team as to who does what. I think a lot of former jocks end up as VP's because they can handle personnel.

I think there's plenty of analyzing but what percentage is guessing whether or not a certain player would fit into your organization? Some are obviously really bad at that. Keeping track of so many players, who's up for free agency, who's in a contract year, which team is over loaded at a certain position, what team has cap space, what coach of yours has coached potential team members, etc. what function would that be?

of course they hafta be willing to haggle/dine ppl - that's why I said NT and not necessarily INTx. the J preference would also be helpful, cos with my habbits I'd start watching sponge bob and forget about a meeting, lol. no but I kick serious ass in fantasy sports, don play football though, only baseball and hockey . . . its always good to have practical talents ya know.

don't know about the function, clearly some analysis into statistics and finance numbers would be an S-type function. but managers who get weighed down in that aren't going to be good in the long run. you need someone who can see the big picture -- so pavel bure looks good on paper but how's he going to fit in with the team? the NY Rangers and Mets are two good examples of idiocy in action. also, N-function is better suited to seeing all potential outcomes of trades and the potential for each player involved in the trade. the best way in fantasy sports is to secure a couple of steady performers and gamble on some new/fairly new guys. I hit big with pavel datsyuk last yr. and I like to try different things, like this past yr for baseball my first 8 drafts were pitchers. I wanted to see if I could be competitive doing something crazy like that. And I finished 2nd out of 12 cos I made a couple of good trades and smart pick ups from the waiver wire. d'you think kenny holland, theo epstein or brian cashman are S or N? - I have no idea, just wondering.


I'm getting slaughtered in my fantasy football league. Bloody injury reports. Last week I left Dillion in and he didn't even play. This week, Darrell Jackson gets downgraded to questionable and misses practice on Friday. 113 yds, 2 TD I left on the bench today. Oh yeah, I love it.

heh, that sucks. but that, to me, is why its fun. infuriating also. but still fun.


That's funny Slider, I was going to hit you up for one of the vacant spots in my fantasy hockey league. Maybe they have one for the Swedish Elite League???

ahhh, reminding me - bad spartan. this sucks, i'm so distraught lol. yah, elite league, maybe they do, ha! too bad I would suck at it. I'll be waiting for the invite next yr though. :)

[Tranzors]

you cannot be serious?! (my athlete impression there, see? guess who!)

there's no way in hell mike tyson is intp - he's as ESTP as they come. seriously now, let's all use our noggins on this one, okie?

and ricky williams? riiight. he's esfp. c'mon now.

tiger woods is closer, but I'd go with infj - I don't see the p at all and it seems like he has a slightly higher f preference.

you want a high percentage of NTs in sports? don't look at athletes or coaches -- look at GMs. analyzing . . . fun times, I love fantasy sports.

Maybe Ricky Williams is a INFP. He's introverted, doesn't do much interviews.

[Slider]

maybe he's an I, but just because he doesn't give many interviews it doesn't mean he's introverted. Tiger Woods is damn good at handling the media and he's an I . . .

I seriously doubt he's an N. wot makes you think so?

he's obviously an FP cos he signed the most asinine deal coming out of college.

[Tranzors]

maybe he's an I, but just because he doesn't give many interviews it doesn't mean he's introverted. Tiger Woods is damn good at handling the media and he's an I . . .

I seriously doubt he's an N. wot makes you think so?

he's obviously an FP cos he signed the most asinine deal coming out of college.

True, good point.

What do you guys think about Tim Duncan?

[Spartan26]

What do you guys think about Tim Duncan?
Hmmm, he could be an INTx - He sees the floor well for a big man, spreading the ball out so that could suggest P. But with his work ethic that's more like a J. I don't know. He plays a high percentage game, never blows up at officials, not much S or F there.

[Spartan26]

the best way in fantasy sports is to secure a couple of steady performers and gamble on some new/fairly new guys. I hit big with pavel datsyuk last yr. and I like to try different things, like this past yr for baseball my first 8 drafts were pitchers. I wanted to see if I could be competitive doing something crazy like that. And I finished 2nd out of 12 cos I made a couple of good trades and smart pick ups from the waiver wire. d'you think kenny holland, theo epstein or brian cashman are S or N? - I have no idea, just wondering.
I've developed a pretty good draft day strategy for football and hockey and have won leagues in both. I still can't figure out baseball and it kills me. I had the third overall pick last year and took Pedro. Contract year, it's gonna be me, me, me, I thought. He was getting touched up all season. I got Oswalt early and he couldn't find the plate until August. Jason Bay, just announced ROY, starts off on the dl, which I was cool with, I got him kinda late, then he's hitting .222 with the power of a middle infielder so I dumped him. Stupid, stupid, stupid. All season long I left points on the bench. Pena's 7 for 7 game w/3 hr's - on the bench. Itzuris, 2 hr, 1 gs, 6 rbi's, 1 sb - on the bench. It was a painful year.

Theo I'm guessing is an N. Hard to say about Cashman & Holland. It's so easy for them to buy in that the position runs the person or is bigger than the person. I'd venture Bobby Clarke ESFJ - He just doesn't have a clue.

[Slider]

I don't follow basketball so I don't really know anything about Duncan.



the best way in fantasy sports is to secure a couple of steady performers and gamble on some new/fairly new guys. I hit big with pavel datsyuk last yr. and I like to try different things, like this past yr for baseball my first 8 drafts were pitchers. I wanted to see if I could be competitive doing something crazy like that. And I finished 2nd out of 12 cos I made a couple of good trades and smart pick ups from the waiver wire. d'you think kenny holland, theo epstein or brian cashman are S or N? - I have no idea, just wondering.
I've developed a pretty good draft day strategy for football and hockey and have won leagues in both. I still can't figure out baseball and it kills me. I had the third overall pick last year and took Pedro. Contract year, it's gonna be me, me, me, I thought. He was getting touched up all season. I got Oswalt early and he couldn't find the plate until August. Jason Bay, just announced ROY, starts off on the dl, which I was cool with, I got him kinda late, then he's hitting .222 with the power of a middle infielder so I dumped him. Stupid, stupid, stupid. All season long I left points on the bench. Pena's 7 for 7 game w/3 hr's - on the bench. Itzuris, 2 hr, 1 gs, 6 rbi's, 1 sb - on the bench. It was a painful year.

Theo I'm guessing is an N. Hard to say about Cashman & Holland. It's so easy for them to buy in that the position runs the person or is bigger than the person. I'd venture Bobby Clarke ESFJ - He just doesn't have a clue.

which game d'you play? I always use yahoo (head to head format), like that one the best.

ha, yeah I took mark prior with my 2nd pick -- right behind kerry wood for #1. my pitching staff should've been lights out the whole season; in addition to those two I had: zito, oswalt, aj burnett, josh beckett, cliff lee, john smoltz, isringhausen, jeff weaver. but they were so inconsistent that my offense ended up being better. gave in and picked up jd drew finally - I knew he'd get hurt, ya know? lol, but he was a good pickup. also got carlos guillen, michael cabrera and sean casey off waivers.

I guess I like to pick pitching first cos that's wot I like -- I'm a braves fan, leo mazzone is god, all that jazz. And I think its easier to pick up position players (rookies under the radar, players returning from injury, others who break out for no apparent reason) than it is to pick up 'new' pitchers. Hard to predict pitching maybe. and also concentrate on weaker positions - I don't think SS is nearly as weak as it used to be. catchers (had varitek) and third basemen (had aramis ramirez, also a god-send this yr) are more difficult in my opinion. and of course if you can't get a good bat at SS or 2nd, you can usually get a wee, speedy guy to cover stolen bases, if nothing else.

[Spartan26]

which game d'you play? I always use yahoo (head to head format), like that one the best.
Use the same. I've been in head-to-head and total per week pools. It's funny but, "When I was a boy, we didn't have the Internet for our fantasy league. We would have to sit in a room for five hours just have a draft. And when you wanted to know how your team did, you'd have to wait until the next day's paper came out. Even then you'd have to wait three days for the commissioner to mail out the results from the rest of the league. And it was hand written or printed on dot matrix printers. None of this fancy smancy web site business. And if you wanted to trade a player you had to pick up a phone and call someone. You kids today with your Yahoo!"

Slider, I'm putting it on you to start an INTP baseball league next spring. $20 to enter and you must send your MBTI results to be included. But, I swear, if it gets to be the 6th round and I'm already filling out my rotation with bunch of Orioles middle relievers, I'm gonna kick your...

[Google Monster]

If you guys watch MMA you should know who Fedor Emelianko. He seems INTP to me.

[INTrPosr]

I played lacrosse a couple of years in high school. That's the one thing I didn't pursue fully that I really wish I had.

Now that takes athleticism. Did you know that Jim Brown originally was recruited to Syracuse to play Lacrosse instead of football? On second thought, since I am unsure of your age Spartan, do you know who Jim Brown is?

[Spartan26]

Now that takes athleticism. Did you know that Jim Brown originally was recruited to Syracuse to play Lacrosse instead of football? On second thought, since I am unsure of your age Spartan, do you know who Jim Brown is?
Yes, I know who Jim Brown is. Still one of the all-time great lacrosse players. Of course when I was in hs I wanted to play at Syracuse, even had an uncle who sometimes taught in the engineering dept. I had it all mapped out. I'm not sure if it was trig or second semester of geometry that made me say, 'ya know what? I'm not going to be an engineer.'

[INTrPosr]

Yes, I know who Jim Brown is. Still one of the all-time great lacrosse players. Of course when I was in hs I wanted to play at Syracuse, even had an uncle who sometimes taught in the engineering dept. I had it all mapped out. I'm not sure if it was trig or second semester of geometry that made me say, 'ya know what? I'm not going to be an engineer.'

Okay, I have never touched one the balls used in lacrosse, however, I was watching some reality tv show where the person(s) had to take the hits from various types of athletes, like kickboxers and so on. This particular time that I was watching, the person had to line up as goalie and take line drives from lacrosse players. Regardless of the type of ball, that had to hurt.

[t]

hmm... what about gymnasts as intps? i was a competitive gymnast for about 7 years and i loved it. there was always something new to achieve & figure out how to do and it kept my interest. plus, once i hit optionals, i really enjoyed being able to have more freedom in creating my routines. the only reason i quit was because it took a huge toll on my body.

also, i was a diver when i was younger and i swam & played lacrosse in high school. i preferred gymnastics & diving to anything else though, probably because they are more individual sports.

[Spartan26]

Okay, I have never touched one the balls used in lacrosse, however, I was watching some reality tv show where the person(s) had to take the hits from various types of athletes, like kickboxers and so on. This particular time that I was watching, the person had to line up as goalie and take line drives from lacrosse players. Regardless of the type of ball, that had to hurt.

A very hard rubber ball. They bounce like a super ball even on grass. I don't think getting hit with a lax ball hurt any more than getting beaned by a baseball or taking a football or basketball to the chops. I also think the times I got hit were never when there was any insane velocity in the ball. Faster than my motor reflexes but the little white blur before a paramedic stands over you type.

[Spartan26]

hmm... what about gymnasts as intps? also, i was a diver when i was younger and i swam & played lacrosse in high school. i preferred gymnastics & diving to anything else though, probably because they are more individual sports.

I only liked and played team sports. I could see how diving would be attractive to most intp's but not so sure about gymnastics. Don't you have a coach screaming at you all the time? I know they have that in team sports, but the coaches are screaming at everybody, not just you. No way to let your mind take a trip or zone out (in a good way) until go into the actual meets when you're doing your routine.

[Spartan26]

If you guys watch MMA you should know who Fedor Emelianko. He seems INTP to me. I can't even tell you what MMA stands for. ?????

[sbw]

So now that his world (and team) are imploding, I keep hearing descriptions like “cold,” “calculating,” etc. And he’s clearly a misanthrope. So “I” (since he hates everyone), and probably “N” (erudite, thoughtful-sounding in interviews (at least when those interviews aren’t with the cops), lost-in-thought-thousand-yard stare), and what else? I’ve heard that there are not many world-class INTP athletes, and also a STRONG correlation regarding hall-of-famers in basketball being ISTP (Jason kidd, Michael Jordan, larry bird, allen Iverson—the list goes on and on). I’m at a loss, and this is usually so simple…?

Scott

[Google Monster]

MMA stands for Mixed Martial Arts. Popular MMA events are UFC (Ultimate Fighting Championship) and Pride FC (Pride Fighting Championship)
Fedor Emelianko is the current heavyweight champion of Pride FC.
He is so calm before, during and after the fight and has no expressions or emotions on his face through the whole time. He never says he will win or lose but rather keeps openings for the possibilitys and modest about is opinions or himself and other fighters.

[t]

I only liked and played team sports. I could see how diving would be attractive to most intp's but not so sure about gymnastics. Don't you have a coach screaming at you all the time? I know they have that in team sports, but the coaches are screaming at everybody, not just you. No way to let your mind take a trip or zone out (in a good way) until go into the actual meets when you're doing your routine.

the coach screaming never really bothered me, though. i'm not particularly sensitive. i knew if i messed up & what i could and couldn't do w/o someone telling me. my coach & i had a love/hate relationship because of that, i think. she loved me because i didn't cry or get emotionally involved with any issues or criticism. i think she also loved me because i was more independent than some of the other girls and she felt that was a good quality to have as a gymnast. "gym drama" gets ridiculous sometimes when you essentially have a group of girls all competing against one another. i never got myself involved, preferred to work alone, and never formed cliques with anyone. however, she hated me because she knew i really didn't care about what she had to say about me and i think she wanted some sort of satisfaction that she had affected me.

i can see your point, but i let my mind just zone out while i was practicing as well as in meets (actually, i zoned out more in practice). practice wasn't structured so we all just kind of did our own thing, worked on our own routines at our own pace, etc. i liked being able to have full reign with the gym to practice what i felt like practicing and complete whatever skill it was that i was trying to master. i also got a lot of thinking done while doing conditioning and i started to really value that time. however, when i was at lower levels, practices were a lot more structured and i didn't like them as much.

[Slider]

Slider, I'm putting it on you to start an INTP baseball league next spring. $20 to enter and you must send your MBTI results to be included. But, I swear, if it gets to be the 6th round and I'm already filling out my rotation with bunch of Orioles middle relievers, I'm gonna kick your...

heh, hey the Os have good relievers . . . it's just their starting lineup that's shaky. they have potential though.

lol, if you're counting on me to organize something you'll be waiting a long time. although, if I were getting all the money for it I might pay closer attention. :)

[Wrath Mania]

Kobe seems ALOT like an F to me. His fued with Shaq was definetly not T-like. Complaining Shaq never called him after his unfortunate sex incident, saying he wasn't really his big brother, etc....

Anyways, www.braintypes.com has ALOT of athletic braintypes. Its a pretty good site in general as it goes into a lot of more science oriented aspects of braintyping.

Anyways, Tiger has been typed as INFP... I have no doubt as far as the I, F, and P goes. As far as him being an N, I think you'd agree he fits the bill of INFP better.

[glassmoon]

hi,
I came across something about this topic in this page: http://www.personalitypage.com/INTP_per.html


INTPs who have developed their Extraverted Intuition to the extent that they regularly take in information in an objective fashion, rather than strictly to feed Introverted Thinking, will enjoy these very special gifts:
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With a well-developed understanding of their environment and the ability to act very quickly, they may good athletes.
...

[crule81]

I was looking through that braintypes web page and the only INTP "athlete" mentioned was Tyrone Willingham, former coach of Notre Dame and current coach of Washington. Clearly, if Willingham is indeed an INTP, he was not a good choice for Notre Dame if they sought a coach who would implement stop-gap measures to get immediate success. I think he will be a good fit at Washington, where he should be given time to slowly rebuild a once great program. I'm glad Notre Dame fired him because I hate that school and he is a good coach. He beat Michigan 2 out of 3 times with vastly inferior talent, especially on offense. I hope Michigan considers him when Lloyd Carr retires.