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Hustler
26 May 2006, 10:55 PM
I have repeatedly tested as a type 3 on the Enneagram. After reviewing the description of the type, I think it is more or less fitting (though, in a sense, they all are on account of their vague language). However, it has come to my attention that type Enneagram type 3 is extraordinarily anomalous for an INTP. So, my question then is whether any of the other INTPs here test as a type 3 on the Enneagram.
charred_heart
26 May 2006, 11:04 PM
I haven't seen a lot of INTPs in the forums who weren't 5's, but it doesn't surprise me that you're not. Enneagram as I understand it is based on intentions so it wouldn't be strange to find INTPs from any of the Enneagram types. Aren't intentions altered by life experience?
Pooja
26 May 2006, 11:05 PM
Every single time I've taken the enneagram test, even the long one, I've always tested as a "3". But the description of "5" fits me much better. So I consider myself as a "5".
CosmicDust
26 May 2006, 11:16 PM
There used to be an alleged INTP 3 who posted here, although he didn't discover his 3-ness until well after his days on here, at which point I knew him mainly through blogs. Now, the 3 I don't question for him, but I sometimes wondered if he were ENTP or something, given how upbeat and driven he was. I'm used to INTPs being lower in both mood and drive, but then, that could be because of the stuff that makes them 5s, 6s, and 9s, and not because of the stuff that makes them INTPs.
Perhaps an INTP 3 would necessarily have to be more ENTPish than the 5, 6, and 9 INTPs in order to have hallmark 3 traits like the ability to get things done and to keep low self-esteem from getting in their way (optimism, or at least non-pessimism). Usually the 5 and 6 INTPs are natural pessimists, which doesn't mix well with 3-ness, and these 5s and 6s are what I normally think of when I think of an INTP. A 9 INTP may not be as pessimistic, but still won't be as inclined to get things done or strut their stuff as a 3 would.
Xenophon
26 May 2006, 11:58 PM
Are you sure you aren't a J?
My sister's boyfriend is an INTx, and also a 3. I think he is a J and he thinks that he is a P.
That being said, I don't see anything in the description that makes me think that an INTP couldn't be a 3.
meshou
27 May 2006, 12:53 AM
Likely my boyfriend, although he could also be a 5, 7, or 9.
Lurker
27 May 2006, 01:20 AM
I have repeatedly tested as a type 3 on the Enneagram. After reviewing the description of the type, I think it is more or less fitting (though, in a sense, they all are on account of their vague language). However, it has come to my attention that type Enneagram type 3 is extraordinarily anomalous for an INTP. So, my question then is whether any of the other INTPs here test as a type 3 on the Enneagram.
I test as a five, with four, nine, and six coming in as a tie for second place. I've never known a type three INTP. Most of the E type threes I've known were ESFPs or ESTPs. I have the opinion that the Enneagram is hopelessly vague, a bit like astrological sign descriptors; so, I don't really think it's that odd that an INTP could be a type three. It's just how you channel your energies, imo. What is a little strange is that an INTP would be so outwardly focused; intellectual ambition makes sense, but materialism and status seeking really doesn't. What parts of the Enneagram three description do/don't fit you? Knowing that would shed some light on your situation.
Hustler
27 May 2006, 03:27 AM
Are you sure you aren't a J?
I am as sure as a P can be that I'm not a J.
INTrPosr
6 Jun 2006, 08:58 PM
Hustler here are some, what I consider, better descriptions of the E3:
Key Motivations: Want to be affirmed, to distinguish themselves from others, to have attention, to be admired, and to impress others.
Healthy
Self-assured and energetic, with high self-esteem: they believe in themselves and their own value. Adaptable, desirable, often physically attractive and popular. Ambitious to improve themselves, to be "the best they can be"?often become outstanding, a human ideal, embodying widely admired cultural qualities. Others are motivated to be like them in some positive way. At Their Best: Self-accepting, inner-directed, and authentic, everything they seem to be. Modest and charitable, self-deprecatory sense of humor and a fullness of heart emerge. Gentle and benevolent.
Average
Highly concerned with their performance, doing their job well, being superior and rising above others. Compare self with others in search for status and success. Become careerists, social climbers, invested in exclusivity and being a "winner." Become image-conscious, highly concerned with how they are perceived. Begin to package themselves according to the expectations of others and what they need to do to be successful. Pragmatic and efficient, but also premeditated, losing touch with their own feelings beneath a smooth facade. Problems with intimacy, credibility, and "phoniness" emerge. Want to impress others with their superiority: constantly promoting themselves, making themselves sound better than they really are. Narcissistic, with grandiose, inflated notions about themselves and their talents. Exhibitionistic and seductive, as if saying "Look at me!" Arrogance and contempt for others is a defense against feeling jealous of others and their success.
Unhealthy
Fearing failure and humiliation, they can be exploitative and opportunistic, covetous of the success of others, and willing to do "whatever it takes" to preserve the illusion of their superiority. Devious and deceptive so that their mistakes and wrongdoings will not be exposed. Untrustworthy, maliciously betraying or sabotaging people to triumph over them. Delusionally jealous of others. Become vindictive, attempting to ruin others' happiness. Relentless, obsessive about destroying whatever reminds them of their own shortcomings and failures. Psychopathic, murder.
Wings by Thomas Condon - The Changeworks (http://www.thechangeworks.com/)
Three With a 2 Wing
Threes with this wing are often highly gregarious. They have a tendency towards persona - playing a role of themselves in real life. Social perception, prestige and recognition important. Healthy side brings personal warmth, leadership qualities. Sincere desire to do well by others; may be genuinely nice people. If they have achieved some measure of success they are generous in their mentorship of others. When more entranced, they are preoccupied with seeming ideal to others. This can extend to friendships, family, as well as at work. Want to seem a perfect spouse, friend, parent, employee, good son or daughter. Strong social focus because they need so much validation from others. Preening and boastful behavior possible. Bursts of egotism. Wanting to be on top, better than others. Slip into impersonation easily, may falsify feeling and not know it themselves.al nutrition. Deep emotional recognition is Malicious intentional deceit possible. Behavior of con-artists and sociopaths.
Three With a 4 Wing
May be slightly less image-conscious or project an image that is more implicit and subtle. 4 wing brings a degree of introversion. May measure themselves more by their creations, artistic or social. Tend to compete with themselves first more than with other people. High side brings the motivation and ability to work on oneself. May accomplish everything they set out to do materially, then embark on a path of self-analysis. Artistic explorations or teaching possible. Will still like a challenge, but thoughtful, intuitive or humanistic concerns of prime interest. The low side of this wing can bring a haunted, self-tormented quality or a haughty, competitive pretentiousness. Might be snobs or accuse critics of being too plebian to appreciate them. Cool, hard shell. In private, can lapse into Fourish self-questioning and melodrama. Instability and moodiness can be factors. Unrealistic grandiosity.
cjs55
7 Jun 2006, 08:01 AM
Hmm. Unrealistic grandiosity. Cool, hard shell. Haughty, competitive pretentiousness.
3w4 does sound pretty spot on...
(I kid, I kid!)
I'm actually suprised more INTPs aren't 3w4. Although obviously more tailored for a J, I would still guess that the self-focus and self-reliance of an INTP could easily manifest itself in 3 tendencies (in myself I could definitely see a little bit of it). 3w2 seems quite unlikely for an I however.
I would also guess that INTPs might find themselves as more of a 3 than a 5 as they get more experienced and mature.
s0978
7 Jun 2006, 08:16 AM
yes, 3, 5, then 9 here, and I bet I could test 4 or 6 too.
I have the opinion that the Enneagram is hopelessly vague, a bit like astrological sign descriptors; moi aussi.
*Looks at Huster's custom user title*
*giggles*
INTrPosr
7 Jun 2006, 02:35 PM
I'm actually suprised more INTPs aren't 3w4. Although obviously more tailored for a J, I would still guess that the self-focus and self-reliance of an INTP could easily manifest itself in 3 tendencies (in myself I could definitely see a little bit of it). 3w2 seems quite unlikely for an I however.Good point, there is a forum at enneagram institute, which discusses the pros and cons of 3w4 v. 5w4. I would never consider INTP to be 3's, however it does make one question their I/E.
wildcat
8 Jun 2006, 09:42 AM
I went to see my brother, an ISTP, the other week. He started showing me his equipment. I have never seen such a monitor, such connections he has, etc etc. It was very important for him to show off.
I have a very old fashioned equipment. It does not trouble me.
And of course I played the game. One has to. With the 3s I mean.
But I do not play the game here in the forum. This is an INTP forum.
LostInThoughts
26 Jun 2006, 05:04 PM
I think that there is an association between 3, 5, and INTP tendencies - although I suspect the behavior and motivation may be distinguishing differences...
5/INTP place heavy value on competence, which could be viewed in reference to 3's "achievement/status/success" orientation. The former being more restricted than in the latter's case.
I view 5/INTP receiving more self-esteem from their intellectual acumen/capacity than 3's who may receive self-esteem from a broader array of areas in their lives.
I also regard 5/INTP as more genuinely curious. Whereas the 3 might show curiosity in the pursuit of advancement, the 5/INTP may be curious in the pursuit of his interests.
In general, 3's ought to be more extroverted as they need others to reflect how cool/special/etc. they are (or want to be). Further, they're probably more socially attuned to their interpersonal environment and others' reactions to them. I picture an ENTP like a 3 more than an INTP, although 3's would not be limited to either MBTI classification.
3's ought to be more action-oriented and less apprehensive than 5/INTPs, or if they aren't it may be for different reasons. For example, a heavy P with 3 motivations may want to take in more possibilities for fear of making a mistake and looking bad, while a 5/INTP might be more into taking in possibilities to more closely align himself with truth or a more complete theoretical cohesion and premature closure would in principle prevent that.
I'm making generalizations here and playing upon distinguishing prototypic features of these types, so please do not take offense as none is intended. All of the above speculation is without considering in detail primary and auxilary functions which are without question relevant here...
papercutcutiepie
1 Feb 2008, 02:09 AM
I recently took a test and came out as a three too. I identify with many of the healthy aspects of the 3, but find myself retreating into 5-dom (which was a strong second) when I need my own time. When I took the M-B I was a bit more I than E, and I think it depends on the situation. So Huster, you're either not alone and I'm also an INTP and a 3 or you're on your own because I'm an ENTP when I'm a 3 and a 5 when I INTP. Good Luck.
bclark619g
1 Feb 2008, 03:26 AM
Hustler, have you taken the Riso-Hudson enneagram test?
Some of the online tests I took said I was a 5, but when I read the description in books by Hurley and Dobson, it didn't fit me. When I took the Riso-Hudson test from a book in the library (I don't remember the name of the book), I tested with 9 highest, then 4, then 5. When I read the description for a 9, it was a perfect fit for me. So, I think some of the online tests are not very accurate for the enneagram.
That being said, I think the Type 3 fits you well. The Type 3 is a balance point in the enneagram, along with the 6 and the 9. This means your preferred center and your repressed center are the same; your's is the Feeling Center. This means you use your Feeling center the least and rely on the other two centers, Thinking and Doing. Both of these centers are almost equal, but one will dominate a little bit more. (These descriptions come from Hurley and Dobson.)
officehome&student
1 Feb 2008, 01:32 PM
I have repeatedly tested as a type 3 on the Enneagram. After reviewing the description of the type, I think it is more or less fitting (though, in a sense, they all are on account of their vague language). However, it has come to my attention that type Enneagram type 3 is extraordinarily anomalous for an INTP. So, my question then is whether any of the other INTPs here test as a type 3 on the Enneagram.
INTPs are not type 3, just like ESTJS are not 4s. Why do you identify with being the 'achiever'?? Achieving is not really something INTPs are known for. You could be a Social/Self preservational 5 or something, and still come across as a kind of leader. If you are a 3 it would seem your an ENTx acting as a detached, intellectual introvert.
bclark619g
1 Feb 2008, 03:06 PM
INTPs are not type 3, just like ESTJS are not 4s. Why do you identify with being the 'achiever'?? Achieving is not really something INTPs are known for. You could be a Social/Self preservational 5 or something, and still come across as a kind of leader. If you are a 3 it would seem your an ENTx acting as a detached, intellectual introvert.
Hustler is homogenized.
pan_sonic_000
2 Feb 2008, 10:46 PM
Enneagram 3:
Your core personality is Enneagram Type 3, the PERFORMER, also known as the ACHIEVER or the SHOWOFF.
You have such an impoverished understanding of life that you can compulsively believe your task is the most important activity in the universe. Your ratlike view of self-improvement means you will blindly run any treadmill a cunning supervisor or spouse puts under your paws.
Your SECRET JOYS include getting awarded little plaques and faux-parchment certificates, discovering your smiling photo in some cheap industry publication, making your coworkers look like lazy idiots, and shouting salutations to people you spot in parking lots.
Some of your SECRET FEARS are that people will pay more attention to someone other than you, some jerk will ask you a question you're not smart enough to answer, you'll get fired to make way for a younger worker, or you'll arrive at a meeting with your fly open.
Under STRESS you begin to move toward Enneagram Type 9, the PEACEMAKER. You become a total tool of your superiors and submit to any kind of humiliation in order to meet impossible work demands.
AT YOUR BEST you begin to move toward Enneagram Type 6, the JOINER. You accept your limitations, ignore the food stains on your clothes, work no harder than necessary, and give teary-eyed thanks for the cheap watch you receive at your group retirement dinner.
[EDIT] Enneagram 5:
Your core personality is Enneagram Type 5, the THINKER, also known as the INTELLECTUAL or the NERD.
You are so logical and analytical that your guts are all dried out. Your expertise can't hide the fact that you're afraid to plunge into the real world. You fundamentally abhor ambiguity or complexity. The more perceptive and observant you are, the more often you feel the paranoia of your own shortcomings, particularly toward other people.
Your SECRET JOYS include doing math or crossword problems in your head, teaching children how to multiply, determining experimentally the exact best heat setting on your toaster, keeping careful track of expenses and gas mileage, and reading the columns of Marilyn vos Savant.
Some of your SECRET FEARS are that you will lose a treasured tool, that you'll mispronounce a common technical term, that you'll get ripped off by a common tradesman, or that you will blunder away your Queen for a Knight and two Pawns.
Under STRESS you begin to move toward Enneagram Type 7, the ENTHUSIAST. You become so desperate to appear smarter than everyone else that you seek to become an expert in all things, driving you either into ironic deconstructionist bullshit or into a chronically argumentative but platitudinous approach to every topic that you happen to talk about.
AT YOUR BEST you begin to move toward Enneagram Type 8, the LEADER. You expiate on topics with such boundless and pointless erudition that you appear once or twice on public broadcasting, purchase environmentally friendly products far in advance of your neighbors, and develop a politically correct speaking style hung on nothing but abstract nouns and passive verbs.
vanamonde
22 Feb 2008, 07:15 PM
I am,
Introverted (I) 89.66% Extroverted (E) 10.34%
Intuitive (N) 64.86% Sensing (S) 35.14%
Thinking (T) 53.33% Feeling (F) 46.67%
Perceiving (P) 78.13% Judging (J) 21.88%
&
Ennegram type 3
Type 1 Perfectionism |||| 16%
Type 2 Helpfulness |||||||||||||||| 66%
Type 3 Image Awareness |||||||||||||||||||| 90%
Type 4 Sensitivity |||||||||||||||||| 73%
Type 5 Detachment |||||||||||||||||| 80%
Type 6 Anxiety |||||||||||| 46%
Type 7 Adventurousness |||||||||||||||| 66%
Type 8 Aggressiveness |||||||||||||||| 66%
Type 9 Calmness |||||||||||||| 60%)
&
sp/sx/so.
Highly depressed and chronic alcoholic,partly beacause of all the places i've been(i have studied in 13 schools and 3 colleges and i lived at 21 different places)
ATPB
24 Mar 2008, 05:19 AM
I used to believe I was a type 5, but over the last few months I've started to have serious doubts over that. If I was pushed to choose right now, I would go with 3.
Interestingly, having read over the thread, it now seems notable that I've forever had niggling doubts over whether I might actually be ENTP. At the moment though, I'm quite sure I'm not.
Mattypaps
13 May 2008, 11:53 AM
I'M a intp with a enneagram 9w8. I also have the thinking side of the 5.
I-80% My test went something like this.
N-78%
T-98%
P78%
Arachne
18 May 2008, 06:09 PM
I think that ENTP is a more likely match for 3w4. A 3 without good people skills would be miserable since they are essentially narcissicists who constantly look to others for mirroring. Thus, I have to guess that a 3 with the Ti/Ne/Si/Fe cognitive set-up would really work on developing Ne/Fe... and would at the very least appear to be an ENTP... if not actually morph into one.
5s on the other hand are essentially schizoids who seek detachment and self-sufficiency. With the same Ti/Ne/Si/Fe set-up, they seem more likely driven to retreat into Ti, which meets their neurotic goals.
For a real world example... my sister is a 3w4 ENTP... I am a 5w4 INTP. We are both highly creative but I am a painter (a very solitary pursuit) and she is an Opera singer (hmmm... you know the stereotype).
welshlass
10 Jun 2008, 11:05 PM
I have just taken the test & come out as a 5 (74%). On this one the type 3 came out as 18%. Apparently i score highest on the withdrawn traits, followed by the compliant, the lowest being assertive. This is how it comes out
Type 1 Perfectionism 42%
Type 2 Helpfulness 26%
Type 3 Image focus 18%
Type 4 Hypersensitivity 18%
Type 5 Detachment 74%
Type 6 Anxiety 58%
Type 7 Adventurousness 18%
Type 8 Aggressiveness 18%
Type 9 Calmness 66%
karenk
10 Jun 2008, 11:20 PM
I've known 3s (ok I'm sure everyone has) and the thing that stands out is the mind-boggling amount of shallowness. It's really a very dominant trait. The poor INTP I was into took the enneagram test after I asked and he thought he may have been a 3. The score must have been as high or almost as high as 5. I spotted him as a 5 very early on. There's no similarity between him and 3s I have known. I think maybe if someone has ambition they get confused with being a 3.
welshlass
10 Jun 2008, 11:34 PM
Could someone please explain what is meant by these "w"s?
MacGuffin
10 Jun 2008, 11:37 PM
Could someone please explain what is meant by these "w"s?
Wings.
If you test as a 3, your wing is either 4 or 2 depending on which type tested stronger.
And no, there is no such thing as a 3w5. Wings are next to each other. One can be balanced and have no wing too.
welshlass
10 Jun 2008, 11:47 PM
Thank you, MacGuffin. So im a 5w6?
MacGuffin
10 Jun 2008, 11:52 PM
Thank you, MacGuffin. So im a 5w6?
Appears that way.
I thought this topic was laid to rest years ago. Only behind E7s and E8s, E3s are one of the most outer world focused types of the enneagram. They cannot and do not know who they are without some external gauging which goes against the theory of introverted types. They live, breath and can only survive in the outer world. It’s a total contradiction of Jung, Myers-Briggs and any other theory of how introverts gain energy. I think that anyone who proposes to be an introverted type 3 should probably focus on E9.
I tied as a 3/4, 3w4? 5 kind of sounds like me as well...
It's somewhat problematic, I have no interest in verbally arguing, but I like to debate via text and read people's differing view points. I'm not a loud person and don't like a lot of loud people. I would prefer my environment to be "peaceful", because I don't like a lot of yelling and noise like that.
When I read the Levels I sound a lot like a 4 Level 6-9. However I'm not increasingly impractical, nor do I indulge in romance- which I find corny. I'm also not really envious or anything. My moods can swing quite a bit, but I use them as a medium, not let them control my life. To me emotions are kind of like paints in the human mind and limbic system.
As much as I often like being by myself I have a lot stressing me out at the moment and am practically in isolation (mostly because of my own habits).
My basic fear and desire are like both. Perhaps more so 4's since I'm constantly considering the point of living if there are say, 1000 other people like me. I think to some extent I have created an identity, but then I wonder how useful I am.
It's like this if I can find my identity I might be worth something, but if I find out my identity is worthless, then I this is what I resort to understanding. To some extent I might try to express my superiority to others I guess. Most of the time I'm in a withdraw, depressed, stressed phase
I'm surprised that INTPs don't seem to have a consistent Enneagram type. I haven't looked into them much though.
holographic
22 Jun 2008, 01:08 AM
INTPs are not type 3, just like ESTJS are not 4s...You could be a Social/Self preservational 5 or something, and still come across as a kind of leader.
I'm not very studied in the theory but I agree when I look at the enneagram as getting at one's deepest motives. I thought I was a 3w4 based on test results but this perspective makes 5w4 more likely. I also agree with INTrPosr when this came up in Sept. '06. Perhaps I got E3 test results because I get more feedback from others on that aspect of my personality -- few will compliment an introvert's thoughtfulness, but to point out problems in their facade, is easy. I also agree with Pooja's point that the Enneagram seems influenced by environment, as, it seems where I can't get enough privacy in my life, I then turn to success and esteem to try to win more "freedom to think".
On some sites I see areas that may explain why a 5 would score a 3:
Fives are sensitive; they don't feel adequately defended against the world
Many 5w6s yearn for acceptance though they might come across as aloof or shut-off
Fives, especially with the Four wing, sometimes mistype themselves as Fours. Such Fives recognize that they have strong emotions and don't identify with the often extremely cerebral portrait of type Five. But, Fives, unlike Fours, always retain some degree of discomfort when it comes to the expression of their emotional states
Neurotics with this dominant wing [5w4] suffer excessive social anxiety[I did score high on 4, and am fairly neurotic :)]
If an IXXP said they were a 3, my first guess would be they have been conditioned to be hard on themselves, not that that truly is their deepest motivations. But, maybe the original reason to understand the world is to then get on with something else? Like?
I got a 3/4 tie originally, but my 5/6 also tied for me as the second most likely. I've come to "realize" that a 3/4 would be my "conditioned" type. I think I was probably conditioned to be something like a 3w6, but ended up conditioned as a 4w3 and am more likely a 5w4.
Usually when trying to define my type I have to go back and think about how I acted when I was younger (a child). 3 wouldn't have been in the description at all. With personality testing like the Emmeagram and MBTI they think your basic type never changes.
This place has all sorts of correlations apparently:
http://www.geocities.com/lifexplore/typecorr.htm
I need to read more about how the wings work with the base personality, because I'm still kind of confused about that.
Lamerstu
12 Jul 2008, 10:19 AM
I usually test with five as the highest, followed usually by a four or three. But once I tested as ENTP, and when I test as INTP the introversion percentage is always quite low.
Pier della Vigna
12 Jul 2008, 04:16 PM
I'm an INTP 3w4 and I don't find it strange.
My 3 side of personality seems to be linked to my fear of disappearing. Simply I like to emerge.
I care about what other persons think of me, that's normal, everybody does.
And I'm really happy if they think of me as an intelligent man.
I like success.
I'm introverted, I care about what's inside me because my mind it's the key of my success.
I'm a reserved person and I'm a perfectionist, I don't want to be famous for a mistake made.
karenk
12 Jul 2008, 04:53 PM
2, 3, 4 are in the heart triad. I don't see how a T could be one of those other than a strong 4 wing for a 5, or maybe a 2 wing for the 1. Otherwise the balance would tip to F.
karenk
27 Jul 2008, 07:31 PM
I've been wondering if there is a connection between a 5 with a dominant social instinct being mistyped as a 3 and other mistypings connected to instinctual stacking. I read a social 5 can have more 3 and 8 qualities.
This is a link to the stacking descriptions.
http://ocean-moonshine.net/e142857369/index.php?module=pagemaster&PAGE_user_op=view_page&PAGE_id=33&MMN_position=86:80
Again with the exception of ISTJ who has natural SJ core values that coincide with belonging, I find it hard for any introverted type to consider themselves E3. The direction of energy for the average introvert per Jung would not equate to what is most needed by E3:
We have named personality type Three The Achiever because when they are healthy, Threes really can and do achieve great things in the world. They are the "stars" of human nature, and people often look up to them because of their graciousness and personal accomplishments. Healthy Threes know how good it feels to develop themselves and contribute their abilities to the world, and also enjoy motivating others to greater personal achievements than others thought they were capable of. They are usually well regarded and popular among their peers, the type of person who is frequently voted “class president" or “home coming queen” because people feel they want to be associated with this kind of person who acts as a stand-in for them. Healthy Threes embody the best in a culture, and others are able to see their hopes and dreams mirrored in them.
Threes are often successful and well liked because, of all the types, they most believe in themselves and in developing their talents and capacities. Threes act as living “role models” and paragons because of their extraordinary embodiment of socially valued qualities. Healthy Threes know that they are worth the effort it takes to be “the best that they can be.” Their success at doing so inspires others to invest in their own self-development.
Threes want to make sure their lives are a success, however that is defined by their family, their culture and their social sphere. In some families, success means having a lot of money, a grand house, a new, expensive car, and other status symbols. Others value ideas, and success to them means distinguishing oneself in academic or scientific worlds. Success in other circles might mean becoming famous as an actor, or model, or writer, or as a public figure of some kind, perhaps as a politician. A religious family might encourage a child to become a minister, priest, or rabbi since these professions have status in their community and in the eyes of the family. No matter how success is defined, Threes will try to become somebody noteworthy in their family and their community. They will not be a “nobody.”
To this end, Threes learn to perform in ways that will garner them praise and positive attention. As children, they learned to recognize the activities that were valued by their parents or peers, and put their energies into excelling in those activities. Threes also learned how to cultivate and develop whatever about them is attractive or potentially impressive.
Rkmajora
3 Sep 2008, 06:59 PM
I'm a strong 4w3. Any INTPs alike with me?
msg_v2
8 Sep 2008, 12:08 AM
I've tested as a 3 before. I've also tested as a 5w4 and a 5w6. I think of those, I'm probably a 5w6. I'm a little on the paranoid side of things sometimes. I tend to be more mistrustful than a hopeless romantic. Plus, I think the thing about going to 7 when stressed, and going to 8 when relaxed has some validity to it.
Pier della Vigna
20 Sep 2008, 06:18 PM
Different test, different results:
Introverted (I) 72.73% Extroverted (E) 27.27%
Intuitive (N) 72.73% Sensing (S) 27.27%
Thinking (T) 69.7% Feeling (F) 30.3%
Perceiving (P) 63.64% Judging (J) 36.36%
Type 1 Perfectionism |||||||||||| 43%
Type 2 Helpfulness |||||| 30%
Type 3 Image Awareness |||||||||||||| 53%
Type 4 Sensitivity |||||||||||||||| 70%
Type 5 Detachment |||||||||||||||| 66%
Type 6 Anxiety |||||||||||||| 60%
Type 7 Adventurousness |||||||||| 40%
Type 8 Aggressiveness |||||||||||||| 53%
Type 9 Calmness |||||||||||||| 60%
and variant:
sp/sx/so
I definitely look like an INTP 4w5.
JMiss41
21 May 2011, 11:43 PM
Ohhh... I'm here.
INTP - Type 3 <---- Sounds nice, doesn't it..?
YHWH
22 May 2011, 12:21 AM
no, not really.
stuck
1 Oct 2011, 08:36 PM
I just tested as a 3w2.
I'm thrown off by the appearance-driven thing. I tend to not care about material possessions more than the average.
"Level 3: Ambitious to improve themselves, to be "the best they can be"—often become outstanding, a human ideal, embodying widely admired cultural qualities. Highly effective: others are motivated to be like them in some positive way.
Level 4: Highly concerned with their performance, doing their job well, constantly driving self to achieve goals as if self-worth depends on it. Terrified of failure. Compare self with others in search for status and success. Become careerists, social climbers, invested in exclusivity and being the "best."
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I think I'm at Level 4, striving for Level 3.
I tested as a 5 before, often. Now, as always, I am more confused. How can I always be more of something? The enigma persists.
The further riddle is why these personality tests are starting to sound more like D&D to me, and how that's making me like them more.
Lurker
1 Oct 2011, 11:31 PM
Type 3 is usually my lowest score.
Typically, I test highest in 5 (surprise), then 4, 6, or 9 will come next. As far as wings go, it seems I've morphed from a 5w4 to a 5w6. FTWC *shrugs*
!diom
3 Oct 2011, 09:57 AM
I just tested as 4w3 when I've usually tested as 4w5 in the past.
It was 4 then 3, 7, 6, 9, 5, 8, 1, and 2. My guess is that 5 fell because so many of the questions related to fives usually ask something about rationality, objectivity, the scientific method, or whatever other retarded bullshit people associate with Spock. The thing is, as time goes on, I realize more and more how little "knowing everything" will do to help me achieve my self-imposed goals, basic needs, ephemeral wants, or even a general sense of efficacy.
Mkenya
14 Oct 2011, 07:40 AM
3 most of the time...
It describes me from the outside looking in better than, I think, the various intp literature does.
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