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Nemesis
1 Jun 2006, 02:20 AM
Did you know, that all 6 billion of us could comfortably fit into the state of Texas, with 1000 square feet of living space to each person, and still have room left over?

The possibilities for what this could mean for humanity, if the information is acted upon could be endless.

Could you imagine one huge, seemingly endless city in any area of land that is roughly the size of texas, while the rest of the world was left natural?

My question is though, would it really make a difference in the way we impact the planet?

Dr. Haight
1 Jun 2006, 02:21 AM
Yes but...who wants to live in Texas.

joft
1 Jun 2006, 02:22 AM
how would you get food, etc, to the people in the middle?

aklight
1 Jun 2006, 02:25 AM
Where did you hear about this? I'd like to read it. Would people be farming inside of where they live? How about fishing? The pollution would be really bad in that area. The water would go bad eventually. I don't know. It could work but it would be difficult.

And if this was science fiction, there would always be groups of humans who escape and sail to Cuba and start their own little country and stuff.

airjaw
1 Jun 2006, 02:29 AM
There's enough room for humans on this planet for a LONG LONG LONG time.
It's called a city full of skycrapers, like in simcity 2000. If we can't go sideways anymore, we can go up or down. Also, there's still a lot of room in rural / isolated areas that could be made inhabitable if we really really needed the space. case in point: las vegas nevada, in the middle of the freaking desert. and it only took 50 billion gallons of california water to do it!

Nemesis
1 Jun 2006, 02:35 AM
how would you get food, etc, to the people in the middle?
... You're... kidding right?

Nemesis
1 Jun 2006, 02:36 AM
There's enough room for humans on this planet for a LONG LONG LONG time.
It's called a city full of skycrapers, like in simcity 2000. If we can't go sideways anymore, we can go up or down. Also, there's still a lot of room in rural / isolated areas that could be made inhabitable if we really really needed the space. case in point: las vegas nevada, in the middle of the freaking desert. and it only took 50 billion gallons of california water to do it!
Or Phoenix, Arizona.

cryingmime
1 Jun 2006, 02:37 AM
There's enough room for humans on this planet for a LONG LONG LONG time.
It's called a city full of skycrapers, like in simcity 2000. If we can't go sideways anymore, we can go up or down. Also, there's still a lot of room in rural / isolated areas that could be made inhabitable if we really really needed the space.

I loved SimCity. Did anyone ever play SimTown? It was the kids version of SimCity...but in my opinion, it had a lot better re-playability.

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Wotton
1 Jun 2006, 03:24 AM
I can think of worse things than living in a small apartment surrounded by 6 billion people, but it's hard.


Would people be farming inside of where they live?
Farming in 1000 sq ft? Do you mean gardening? We could probably all have a little plot in the back yard. I wonder how much of Texas would be roads & supermarkets, and how much space would go to making food. And if anyone would want to give up enough of their space to have a garage.

Even without its being science fiction, heaps of people would be leaving the city to get away. Actually, I'm all for this idea, now that I think of it. We'd all be living in a day where we could be like Lewis & Clark.

Claverhouse
1 Jun 2006, 03:47 AM
Sometimes you rub the fact you're not an intp right in, Nemesis.


Claverhouse :ph34r:

earwax
1 Jun 2006, 04:20 AM
1000 sq ft?

Where would I put my recording studio?

Ka.avik
1 Jun 2006, 04:27 AM
I think this is a fascinating concept, and I applaud all of you for making room
...for me. I'll be staying here with my horses. Presumably with no power, so I'd also have to learn to farm for myself, but ... I could adapt. I'd miss you guys, but dang I'm not squeezing into that city for anything.

aether
1 Jun 2006, 04:29 AM
We already have this in a much much larger scale, the earth is inhabited while the rest of the universe is untouched.

joft
1 Jun 2006, 04:34 AM
... You're... kidding right?
if people are living in 32x32 square feet lots there's no ecological system in the world that could be evenly spaced among all the areas of the entire region to supply all the needed food and drink to everyone. 32x32 feet is really not very much, if some of that is being taken up by pipelines or something to transport water then the amount needed by the people in regions further from the supply would require there to be so much piping that it would take up the majority of peoples spaces.

that's just the very beginning of all the logistical problems. where would all the waste go? even living very minimalistically we would still generate many tons of waste in our lifetimes. how would you facilitate transportation or communication across large distances, for example to allow someone with a specific medical need to see someone who specializes in that and may be many miles away. without roads and airports and so on, such a journey could take weeks and easily kill many patients (not to mention being completely impossible to do routinely as is needed in many cases). how do you go about adding new people, are new territories added around the edges, and in that case do the children of all the people living in the middle have to leave them, and at what age? etc etc etc

aklight
1 Jun 2006, 04:43 AM
I can think of worse things than living in a small apartment surrounded by 6 billion people, but it's hard.


Farming in 1000 sq ft? Do you mean gardening? We could probably all have a little plot in the back yard. I wonder how much of Texas would be roads & supermarkets, and how much space would go to making food. And if anyone would want to give up enough of their space to have a garage.

Even without its being science fiction, heaps of people would be leaving the city to get away. Actually, I'm all for this idea, now that I think of it. We'd all be living in a day where we could be like Lewis & Clark.

No, I don't mean in their own personal space. There would have to be land somewhere, inside of the giant city, which would be used for raising animals and growing produce. And yes, you'd have to set aside public property for all kinds of different things. I wouldn't ever go for a thing like this. I plan on owning a lot of land some day.

airjaw
1 Jun 2006, 08:35 AM
Anyone else interested in the planning and theory behind these mega cities?
I could work on something like this for the rest of my life, if i got paid handsomely...

Architectonic
1 Jun 2006, 08:59 AM
You know, I was just thinking today, how it'd be nice to have an area, roughly the size of Texas all to myself. :ph34r:

EmmaPeel
1 Jun 2006, 09:03 AM
Nemesis, if you want to live in New York City, no one is stopping you.

Superstring
1 Jun 2006, 10:45 AM
how would you get food, etc, to the people in the middle?

Pyramid cities. Like the one they're thinking of building in Tokyo. It's like a pyramid made of hollow metal tubes w/ elevators and shit, it would have insane population density like what Nemesis is talking about



My question is though, would it really make a difference in the way we impact the planet?

I think a combination of wind and solar is all it takes to power the pyramid city, from what I recall...Ironically, the pyramid city is far more susceptable to receiving damage from mother nature, from earthquakes and stuff. Anyways yes, this is a genius idea~ having the entire planet for resources and vacationing, with only a tiny portion of it actually populated....that would be so great, lol