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Rooster
2 Jun 2006, 07:10 AM
I was wondering if anyone here ever believes the half baked swill that the network press puts out. After working at a daily paper I have learned one valuable lesson. Never believe anything you see on the news, read in the paper, or hear on the radio. Journalism ethics are bullshit.

If anyone here is a fan of Fox News then consider me your mortal enemy! :2up:

rivercrow
2 Jun 2006, 07:12 AM
I was wondering if anyone here ever believes the half baked swill that the network press puts out. After working at a daily paper I have learned one valuable lesson. Never believe anything you see on the news, read in the paper, or hear on the radio. Journalism ethics are bullshit.

If anyone here is a fan of Fox News then consider me your mortal enemy! :2up:

The obituaries, marriage, birth, and divorce listings are probably reliable.

Speaking as a former obits clerk.

I'm 100% with you on the Fox News thing, tho.

joft
2 Jun 2006, 07:19 AM
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ShadyShady
2 Jun 2006, 07:31 AM
needs a 'neither/none of the above option'

Wotton
2 Jun 2006, 08:16 AM
My favourite was UPN News. "Is vampire sex better than regular sex? Story at eleven."

(I don't have a television, I don't subscribe to papers, I get one magazine. If I really need to know something, I figure someone will tell me eventually.)

Spartan26
2 Jun 2006, 08:33 AM
I rarely watch the news. Local news out here is even worse. All cut to be sensationalism. Mind numbing.

When I worked at the investment bank, I was constantly hit with information. The dollars that company would shell out for information. Plus everybody there knew people on "the inside." Now, it seems it doesn't matter to me. Don't know why that is.

I haven't even been as informed on the entertainment industry as I otherwise used to be. Maybe I'm jaded by news. Not afraid of bad news or pessimistic, just sick of bad coverage.

Zephyrus055
2 Jun 2006, 08:34 AM
It is impossible to have impartial news service. Information will always be selected or dimissed based on its 'relevance,' which is relative to the thinking of an elite.

Moreover, what is the marketing advantage to honesty? You can not begin to hope to have a strong viewing without first capturing the interests of an audience.

Eileen
2 Jun 2006, 03:54 PM
I trust NPR the most, though I know that they also have some corruption too.

Still: *hugs NPR* *gooses Ira Glass*

bergenski
2 Jun 2006, 04:01 PM
(I don't have a television...
Huh. And you don't feel as if you're missing anything?

joft
2 Jun 2006, 04:05 PM
watching TV = missing life?

earwax
2 Jun 2006, 04:07 PM
Never watch the news or read the paper.

I do own a "one eyed monster". It's seldom on, and when it is it's basically background noise tuned to the science or the history channel.

I only have cable for the internet connection.

charred_heart
2 Jun 2006, 04:08 PM
FOX is like Al Jazeera :p

Jasz
2 Jun 2006, 04:09 PM
during major events i switch between CNN and FOX and often end up at MSNBC (though i love soledad)

Lee
2 Jun 2006, 04:21 PM
The BBC is crap. It's SocialismCentral, working under the pretense of impartiality. For many years -- though this may no longer be true -- they only advertised job vacancies in the British broadsheet The Guardian, a notoriously left-wing paper.

They just make so many little errors, and are soul-crushingly politically correct :sick:

Rooster
2 Jun 2006, 05:26 PM
The BBC is crap. It's SocialismCentral, working under the pretense of impartiality. For many years -- though this may no longer be true -- they only advertised job vacancies in the British broadsheet The Guardian, a notoriously left-wing paper.

They just make so many little errors, and are soul-crushingly politically correct :sick:

Are you saying that FOX or CNN is better?

Lurker
2 Jun 2006, 05:29 PM
FOX is like Al Jazeera :p

I second that thought. :)

geniusndisguise
2 Jun 2006, 05:43 PM
I don't trust any news media. When you have liars quoting liars what can you expect?

Claverhouse
2 Jun 2006, 06:25 PM
The BBC is crap. It's SocialismCentral, working under the pretense of impartiality. For many years -- though this may no longer be true -- they only advertised job vacancies in the British broadsheet The Guardian, a notoriously left-wing paper.

They just make so many little errors, and are soul-crushingly politically correct :sick:

True, and don't forget that they are supported by a compulsory tax on tv's, even if you don't watch them.

Since Monk stopped, I've had my tv on about 3 times in the last two months.


Claverhouse :ph34r:

htb
2 Jun 2006, 06:30 PM
The trouble is a pretense of objectivity -- a new organization's most valuable currency should be intellectual honesty alongside an acknowledgement of political orientation. Pundits' magazines, these days, accomplish more in terms of reporting than press agencies strutting about with affected magnanimity; readers already know from what perspective a given article in a political publication will be written, so they can qualify information as they quantify it. Broadcast and cable networks should trade publicly like British newspapers do: per affiliation, so in America, center-right (Fox) and left-wing (ABC, NBC, CBS, CNN).

Subsidized networks like NPR and the Beeb should be privatized.

Tolbruk
2 Jun 2006, 10:32 PM
I don't trust any news media. When you have liars quoting liars what can you expect?
Creative writing? :)


per affiliation, so in America, center-right (Fox) and left-wing (ABC, NBC, CBS, CNN).
If Fox is center-right, then I'm the King of Spain...more like right-right...

coffeezombie
2 Jun 2006, 10:35 PM
Are you saying that FOX or CNN is better?
At least the BBC actually gives you all of the news, even if it is biased. I notice that both Fox and CNN like to not report certain stories that make the US look poorly.

htb
2 Jun 2006, 10:51 PM
then I'm the King of SpainNo, just inaccurate. Fox broadcasts a goodly number of rightist hosts and guests but its general news is centrist at best.

Rooster
2 Jun 2006, 11:00 PM
its general news is centrist at best.

Wow, I sure would like to see the steer that laid that Everest size pile of bullshit.

I'm calling you out htb! :laser:

htb
2 Jun 2006, 11:24 PM
I'm calling you out htb!Ten paces, turn, and toss your water balloon.

Rooster
3 Jun 2006, 12:04 AM
Only mine isn't filled with water. :devil:

I guess now you're my mortal enemy. Prepare for battle!

Wotton
3 Jun 2006, 02:31 AM
Huh. And you don't feel as if you're missing anything?
Like what? I have a computer to watch DVDs on, and I've probably already watched most of the Wheel of Fortune reruns.



Since Monk stopped
For the summer, or permanently?

Jacque
4 Jun 2006, 06:05 PM
I second that thought. :)

I watched Control Room (http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0391024/) and didn't get that impression from Al Jazeera behind the camera. While CNN and FOX played war correspondents as if it was a footfall game, debuting high tech weapons as they were sales rep's from Boeing, Al Jazeera showed the war from the receiving end, where the war is actually taking place -- not in our living rooms with 3D computer generated models, but in the streets where children play and mothers and fathers work for their daily bread. While people complain they get too mcuh bad news, it is only half of it. You can forget a headline, but you can't forget an image.

Edit: Plus most of Al Jazeera are former BBC employees.

http://ia.imdb.com/media/imdb/01/I/12/74/48m.jpg

Claverhouse
4 Jun 2006, 06:33 PM
For the summer, or permanently?

BBC 1 always has on a Yank detective tv series in the afternoon to pacify the older people before children's tv. By older, I mean the type of people who like the seemingly octogenarian Miss Lansbury or Dick van Dyke playing very improbable detectives. For a change they added Monk repeats to the line-up for around a month, just from the first 3 series ( life is slooowww in Britain ), which meant one could tape them each day instead of once a week on Sundays. ( although my video-machine is pretty bad, and could do with replacing by a DVD except there's no point since I rarely record anything since they stopped sending American sit-coms here ). Now it's back to Jessica.

After Monk the kids tv had an Irish piglet animated series called Jakers! --- The Adventures of Piggley Winks. Try to imagine a country where that is in the top 1% of tv output.


Claverhouse :ph34r:

helium
4 Jun 2006, 06:42 PM
I trust NPR the most, though I know that they also have some corruption too.

Still: *hugs NPR* *gooses Ira Glass*

I listen to NPR, largely because I listen to a public radio station here, where I can also catch classical music during the weekdays, other alternative music programs, and local news broadcast by the journalism interns at the unversity.

But I also like listening to another local, admittedly conservative, liberal bashing station. Some of the rednecks that call in are just funny, sometimes by virtue of good humor and sometimes by virtue of sheer ignorance. They also get some older, reasonable callers who just lean a bit to the right.

Between the two sides, I might be able to imagine something that resembles real news.

sbw
4 Jun 2006, 06:48 PM
watching TV = missing life?

I have an awesome quote--I'll start a new thread as soon as I find the book I just finished a few days ago which contains said quote.

I'm going to cancel my tv service after the conclusion of the nba finals. I don't really watch anything else, and certainly not news programming. thats what reading is for.

Scott

jittus rye
5 Jun 2006, 05:30 AM
If news people have an opinion on something, it has the capacity to piss me off. BBC can get annoying in my experience. At least FOX can be funny. +1 FOX. Afterall, news is not about information, it is about entertainment. And people that try to be seem unbiased usually end up looking like cunts.

Nemesis
5 Jun 2006, 05:55 AM
I trust NPR the most, though I know that they also have some corruption too.

Still: *hugs NPR* *gooses Ira Glass*
:wub:

Other than NPR, I'll watch FOX when I want a reason to hate Republicans or whenever I want to marvle at how gullible people are.

sbw
5 Jun 2006, 07:48 AM
I'll watch FOX when I want a reason to hate Republicans or whenever I want to marvle at how gullible people are.

this from the guy who thinks voting is important.

Scott

Serotonin
5 Jun 2006, 08:06 AM
Afterall, news is not about information, it is about entertainment. And people that try to be seem unbiased usually end up looking like cunts.

They've taught you well.

booyalab
5 Jun 2006, 09:08 AM
After Monk the kids tv had an Irish piglet animated series called Jakers! --- The Adventures of Piggley Winks. Try to imagine a country where that is in the top 1% of tv output.

ew

aklight
5 Jun 2006, 09:35 AM
Comedy shows are a great way to keep up with current events!

jittus rye
5 Jun 2006, 04:20 PM
Comedy shows are a great way to keep up with current events!

+1 The Daily Show.

Rooster
5 Jun 2006, 07:31 PM
+1 Colbert Report