Has anyone become an ENTP?

[Justin05]

I usually score as an INTP. I=67, n=85, t=22, p=25. Anyway, I took a different test the other day and scored as an ENTP. I have and do continue to be involved in many ENTP type affairs. For example, I mowed 19 lawns at the age of 15 and purchased my own car. That business made me lots of money. I have waited tables and I have actually been a supervisor which is something I think INTP's would run the hell away from. Anyway, I think I could actually be a moderately expressed E. Is anyway else like this? I do enjoy arguing for the sake of arguing as well.

[simian20]

ask waxwing

[aklight]

There's a good chance you are an E too. I'm kind of the same way. I work with the public all day, and for the most part, I love it. I'm not uncomfortable in social situations, I do quite well and have fun. It's just that I'd rather not hang out with people if they are not going to do anything interesting or constructive. I'm good with people though and I don't mind being in charge, though I'd rather be second in charge sometimes, because I can still do all the important stuff that way and have more fun.

[Ryuko]

*shrugs* Sometimes I do get in moods where I want to be a leader, or supervisor like you said. But... the majority of the time, I want to be more introverted... Which are you more often, extraverted or introverted?

[phenol]

I think it's possible to be close to the border between E and I. Sometimes I get in a very E mood where I reach for my cell phone and start asking my friends if they wanna do anything. I think a lot of my introverted behavior can be attributed more to shyness than actual preference. I think there was another thread awhile ago about shy I vs actual I. If it wasn't for some of my insecurities I think I could be a slight ENTP.

[panda]

I'm borderline E/I. I'm fundamentally an introvert, but I've gone through periods of strong extroversion.

The ENTP description fits me nearly as well as INTP, at times.

[Ryuko]

Sometimes I get in a very E mood where I reach for my cell phone and start asking my friends if they wanna do anything.

I can so relate to that.

[Park]

I had one period in my life where I think I might have ended up borderline but the circumstances were out of the ordinary. I went to live and study at this art school with 80 other students. I loved it there, so many easy-going open-minded colorfull people gathered in one place. I ended up enjoying to socialize most of the time - however, I would rarely just sit down concentrated and talk. Most of the time I would be doing various project with the other students.

[Justin05]

Even as an idea, I think an ENTP has several benefits over being an INTP. The ENTP I knew was energetic yet reflective, in the moment, yet detached. She observed from the social angle and was able to use her superior language skills to her benefit. The only thing she struggled with was understanding other types are not going to debate all the time.

I think sales would be a great place for a E/I NTP because they could use there extraverted intuition all the time. It is so much fun to meet new people and read them or say something before they say it and get the, "I was just thinking that" shocked face from them.

[Justin05]

I had one period in my life where I think I might have ended up borderline but the circumstances were out of the ordinary. I went to live and study at this art school with 80 other students. I loved it there, so many easy-going open-minded colorfull people gathered in one place. I ended up enjoying to socialize most of the time - however, I would rarely just sit down concentrated and talk. Most of the time I would be doing various project with the other students.

I would love that. It would be a blast to do something of this nature. I might start an architecture program but its hardly the same. Maybe, if I take some painting and drawing classes for fun, I could have something similar. Good for you. What a great experience.

[attila_the_hunny]

I'm only extroverted around people I feel comfortable with [which means I know them well] or when I'm drinking. I just don't like people.

[Justin05]

I'm only extroverted around people I feel comfortable with [which means I know them well] or when I'm drinking. I just don't like people.

What do you think about ENTP's? They interest me because they seem to have the best of both worlds. Perhaps, I just have the innate ability to go into E mode where necessary.

[attila_the_hunny]

What do you think about ENTP's? They interest me because they seem to have the best of both worlds. Perhaps, I just have the innate ability to go into E mode where necessary.

I have one ENTP friend, and he annoys the fuck out of me with his pretentious dribble.

[Justin05]

I have one ENTP friend, and he annoys the fuck out of me with his pretentious dribble.

Yea, thats the shitty part. The people with the "I am really smart" complex really need to be smacked. And people who thank they have superior ideas that are just lame or definitely not that impress. "It's a jump to conclusions mat, what it is is a mat where you jump to conclusions" Office Space

[INThoughtPolice]

I think there are many ENTPs on this forum that tested INTP. I always tested INTP but I knew that something wasn't right. I need loads of alone time and I'm no socialite. ENTPs become extroverted when engaged in an idea, debate, or interesting conversation. We're clever and witty. Many ENTPs often wonder if they have Social Anxiety Disorder. There is just a social awkwardness that comes with being ENTP. ENTPs are usually very driven to become or achieve something and can easily motivate others to share their visions. I hope that this helps you out Justin. Your descriptions of yourself seem very ENTP.

[Justin05]

I think there are many ENTPs on this forum that tested INTP. I always tested INTP but I knew that something wasn't right. I need loads of alone time and I'm no socialite. ENTPs become extroverted when engaged in an idea, debate, or interesting conversation. We're clever and witty. Many ENTPs often wonder if they have Social Anxiety Disorder. There is just a social awkwardness that comes with being ENTP. ENTPs are usually very driven to become or achieve something and can easily motivate others to share their visions. I hope that this helps you out Justin. Your descriptions of yourself seem very ENTP.

Yes, thanks. I definitely get a friggin kick out of inspiring people. Like the other day when this kid was brainstorming with me about making T shirts. I was extremely into this and could of carried for a long time. Anyway, we were at the book store and when I left him and returned he had lost interest.

Even more so. I am curious about this with you. Are you able to use your sense of timing and conversational skills to lead ppl into whatever your current motivation is? I have had kids go on crazy adventures w/ me because I was able to persuade them into leaving a party to go to the river or something like that. It's just fun to inspire people.

[attila_the_hunny]

I was raised by extroverts and can do well in social settings, but I wouldn't call myself E just because of that. I think that because of my E parents, I developed a tolerance to it and can interact for so long before I burn out. My job requires me to be extroverted, and people at work would be surprised that when I go home, I don't have a million friends to call or go out and party. I take a shower and go to bed, maybe watch a little TV and surf the net. I don't leave the house much and I don't have friends. This comes as a shock to them.

[charred_heart]

I was raised by extroverts and can do well in social settings, but I wouldn't call myself E just because of that. I think that because of my E parents, I developed a tolerance to it and can interact for so long before I burn out. My job requires me to be extroverted, and people at work would be surprised that when I go home, I don't have a million friends to call or go out and party. I take a shower and go to bed, maybe watch a little TV and surf the net. I don't leave the house much and I don't have friends. This comes as a shock to them.You must be in sales or marketing. What do you do?

[INThoughtPolice]

I am curious about this with you. Are you able to use your sense of timing and conversational skills to lead ppl into whatever your current motivation is? I have had kids go on crazy adventures w/ me because I was able to persuade them into leaving a party to go to the river or something like that. It's just fun to inspire people.
Yes. Inspiring others and persuasion are my strongpoints. I am most happy when doing these things.

[phenol]

Many ENTPs often wonder if they have Social Anxiety Disorder.

I was diagnosed with SAD.

[Park]

I would love that. It would be a blast to do something of this nature. I might start an architecture program but its hardly the same. Maybe, if I take some painting and drawing classes for fun, I could have something similar. Good for you. What a great experience.

Those 6 months were infact one of the best times in my life. Good luck with your architecture program. I do find that creative environments are more open towards people who are a bit special.

[attila_the_hunny]

You must be in sales or marketing. What do you do?

I'm in the medical field. Part of my job is to act like I care, listen to people, observe them, and interact with them. Add that to tolerating abusive behavior and performing activities of daily living on them, and you have my job: nurse aide.

[Justin05]

Yes. Inspiring others and persuasion are my strongpoints. I am most happy when doing these things.

Thanks for your help. It is a neat idea regardless of whether I am an INTP or an ENTP. I like the idea of being extroverted so I will play w/ this idea for a while. And live to inspire and make others dream all the while selling them on my ideas.

[INThoughtPolice]

And live to inspire and make others dream all the while selling them on my ideas.
Wow, get out of my head!! Jk. Good luck.

[candy]

As anyone become an ENTP?



No, but I think, I was an ENTP when I was a kid. Became ENFP later... Yeah, well, not very interesting! I know!!!

As a former ENTP, I can tell that my favorite sport was argumentation. I loved contradicting people :duel: and seeing the flaws in their speech, was fun! But now, I concentrate more on people, and what I can bring into their life.

[Justin05]

No, but I think, I was an ENTP when I was a kid. Became ENFP later... Yeah, well, not very interesting! I know!!!

As a former ENTP, I can tell that my favorite sport was argumentation. I loved contradict people and seeing the flaw of their speech, was fun! But now, I concentrate more on people, and what I can bring into their life.

Neat, I like to persuade ENFP's into my diabolical schemes and use their ideas to further build upon mine. Muahahhahahhahahahahaha all the while giving them the social attention they desire...:ph34r:

[candy]

Which means, you need ENFPs and you can't build your own ideas without them! ;P

[Nadiar]

Yes.
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[Park]

I'm in the medical field. Part of my job is to act like I care, listen to people, observe them, and interact with them. Add that to tolerating abusive behavior and performing activities of daily living on them, and you have my job: nurse aide.

What made you choose that profession? Somehow you don't really strike me as any Florence Nightingale,,,

[libertarianjim]

I'm only extroverted around people I feel comfortable with [which means I know them well] or when I'm drinking. I just don't like people.

Almost word for word what I was going to say.

[Architectonic]

I think there are many ENTPs on this forum that tested INTP.

Time to name some usernames!

(Of course, I can't be an ENTP according to your definition as I am not clever or witty.)

[attila_the_hunny]

What made you choose that profession? Somehow you don't really strike me as any Florence Nightingale,,,

It's a step to nursing. And it gives me more flexibility than any other job I could have while in college.

[Lee]

The socionics ENTp profile describes me better than the MBTI INTP profile. I might be an ENTP, it might explain a few things ... hmm.

[Pooja]

I'm an ENTP sometimes, when I'm around other extroverts (who I'm comfortable with). Which is like, ever female friend I've ever had. Around guys, I'm a lot shyer.

[Justin05]

Which means, you need ENFPs and you can't build your own ideas without them! ;P

Incorrect, they are my minions.

[candy]

Incorrect, they are my minions.

No, they just manipulate you and use you to spread widely their opinions...




PS : Im being ENTP here again...:smooch:

[Nighthawk]

I wish I had more ENTP-like qualities. The ENTP's I know are usually successful entrepreneurs, free of the shackles of the corporate world. I admire them a lot.

[waxwing]

I think sales would be a great place for a E/I NTP because they could use there extraverted intuition all the time. It is so much fun to meet new people and read them or say something before they say it and get the, "I was just thinking that" shocked face from them.
Sales? You can't be serious.

I'm an ENTP who tested INTP. I always tell people who can't decide on their type to spend a lot of time studying the functions. If you understand the parts of your personality and how those parts interact with each other, you may begin to grasp the sum. We simply are not objective enough to stand back and evaluate ourselves as whole people. Additionally, the common misconception of MBTI is that each part of personality is defined by four letters - E/I, S/N, T,/F, P/J. Incorrect. We can't possibly understand how "E" or "I" we are by evaluating ourselves in social situations (that stupid "alone time" question found in MBTI tests is the most misleading of all. Es can need serious alone time, too). Ne. I'm about to start a thread on it cause I'm tired of it being misrepresented.

[Justin05]

Sales? You can't be serious.

I'm an ENTP who tested INTP. I always tell people who can't decide on their type to spend a lot of time studying the functions. If you understand the parts of your personality and how those parts interact with each other, you may begin to grasp the sum. We simply are not objective enough to stand back and evaluate ourselves as whole people. Additionally, the common misconception of MBTI is that each part of personality is defined by four letters - E/I, S/N, T,/F, P/J. Incorrect. We can't possibly understand how "E" or "I" we are by evaluating ourselves in social situations (that stupid "alone time" question found in MBTI tests is the most misleading of all. Es can need serious alone time, too). Ne. I'm about to start a thread on it cause I'm tired of it being misrepresented.

Yea, sales would suck. Thank you. <slaps self senseless>

[waxwing]

Yea, sales would suck. Thank you. <slaps self senseless>

No problem, I'm glad I could lead you out of darkness and into self-destruction.

[aether]

Well, I can identify with those who are not sure whether they are INTP or ENTP. From the cognitive processes tests that I have taken I usually get Ne as the strongest function. I can see how this is true since I am always looking for possibilities and ways to relate different ideas that would seemingly be unrelated. Nevertheless, when I read the profile for the ENTP it doesn't match my personality. I just don't see myself as energetic, social, funny. Nevertheless, I am clever and can have fashes of sociability. But I think that the sociability is forced because I've always wanted to fit in somewhere and be happy. Instead, I am usually moving from one thing to the other without really going in depth or seeing how far I can go and not being happy. I have read though that there are INTP's that can be social which is odd but it could probably arise if the Ne and Ti processes switch first and second place. I would like to know if ENTP are at all introspective because that could be a deciding factor in determing the type. If they are not then I know for sure that I am an INTP. Also, could there be self protectionist ENTP's.

[INThoughtPolice]

Well, I can identify with those who are not sure whether they are INTP or ENTP. From the cognitive processes tests that I have taken I usually get Ne as the strongest function. I can see how this is true since I am always looking for possibilities and ways to relate different ideas that would seemingly be unrelated. Nevertheless, when I read the profile for the ENTP it doesn't match my personality. I just don't see myself as energetic, social, funny. Nevertheless, I am clever and can have fashes of sociability. But I think that the sociability is forced because I've always wanted to fit in somewhere and be happy. Instead, I am usually moving from one thing to the other without really going in depth or seeing how far I can go and not being happy. I have read though that there are INTP's that can be social which is odd but it could probably arise if the Ne and Ti processes switch first and second place. I would like to know if ENTP are at all introspective because that could be a deciding factor in determing the type. If they are not then I know for sure that I am an INTP. Also, could there be self protectionist ENTP's.
I've read that ENTPs are introspective however most type descriptions do not include this. Introspection is definitely a major part of my personality. Ahhh, I'm starting to second-guess my type again. Any other introspective ENTPs?

[candy]

Im highly introspective too but Im an ENFP (with low F)

[waxwing]

I've read that ENTPs are introspective however most type descriptions do not include this. Introspection is definitely a major part of my personality. Ahhh, I'm starting to second-guess my type again. Any other introspective ENTPs?
Yo tambien.

Problem with many of the type descriptions is that there is too much emphasis on ENTPs being social and outgoing when in reality, an ENTP can be a bit anti-social. In my opinion, however, an ENTP will be anti-social in a different way from an INTP. For example, I spend most of my time interacting with people at work and am very comfortable with my social role, but am often quiet in my personal life because I don't wish to talk to people who bore me. I don't know about other ENTPs, but I certainly don't like smalltalk. On one hand, I am sometimes perceived as quiet and I feel out of place because I have different interests than the vast majority of people, but on the other hand, I will often initiate conversation with a person purely for learning purposes. A result of this is that some people I meet quickly believe I want to be their best friend, perhaps because I show genuine interest in their true selves. This could also be due to my sx variant, though.

[INTrPosr]

Problem with many of the type descriptions is that there is too much emphasis on ENTPs being social and outgoing when in reality, an ENTP can be a bit anti-social. In my opinion, however, an ENTP will be anti-social in a different way from an INTP. For example, I spend most of my time interacting with people at work and am very comfortable with my social role, but am often quiet in my personal life because I don't wish to talk to people who bore me. I don't know about other ENTPs, but I certainly don't like smalltalk. On one hand, I am sometimes perceived as quiet and I feel out of place because I have different interests than the vast majority of people, but on the other hand, I will often initiate conversation with a person purely for learning purposes. A result of this is that some people I meet quickly believe I want to be their best friend, perhaps because I show genuine interest in their true selves. This could also be due to my sx variant, though.Excellent examples Wax. I too am one of those who originally typed as INTP, however realized otherwise. I scored heavily as introvert on the MBTI Step II (30 out of 30), but realized the questions also make the assumption that extraverts in general are gregarious and very social. Extraversion simply means one's energy is directed toward the external as opposed to the internal. Whether one enjoys being around people does not come into account. In fact, ISF's probably like being around other people far more than ENTs.

[INThoughtPolice]

Yo tambien.

Problem with many of the type descriptions is that there is too much emphasis on ENTPs being social and outgoing when in reality, an ENTP can be a bit anti-social. In my opinion, however, an ENTP will be anti-social in a different way from an INTP. For example, I spend most of my time interacting with people at work and am very comfortable with my social role, but am often quiet in my personal life because I don't wish to talk to people who bore me. I don't know about other ENTPs, but I certainly don't like smalltalk. On one hand, I am sometimes perceived as quiet and I feel out of place because I have different interests than the vast majority of people, but on the other hand, I will often initiate conversation with a person purely for learning purposes. A result of this is that some people I meet quickly believe I want to be their best friend, perhaps because I show genuine interest in their true selves. This could also be due to my sx variant, though.
Chasgracias Waxwing. Me ayudaste mucho.


but am often quiet in my personal life because I don't wish to talk to people who bore me. I don't know about other ENTPs, but I certainly don't like smalltalk. On one hand, I am sometimes perceived as quiet and I feel out of place because I have different interests than the vast majority of people, but on the other hand, I will often initiate conversation with a person purely for learning purposes. Lol, that's why I come here.

Excellent examples Wax. I too am one of those who originally typed as INTP, however realized otherwise. I scored heavily as introvert on the MBTI Step II (30 out of 30), but realized the questions also make the assumption that extraverts in general are gregarious and very social. Extraversion simply means one's energy is directed toward the external as opposed to the internal. Whether one enjoys being around people does not come into account. In fact, ISF's probably like being around other people far more than ENTs.
I'm as certain as a P can get that I'm ENTP. Thanks.

[Ringoyam]

Almost. I've had a few experiences when I become strangley outgoing but I've actually come to enjoy it. I'm taking an internship this year in NY and might be getting a job at an advertising agency depending on how things go. Despite how quiet I am I usually dont worry about it when it comes to meeting new people so to some I may appear extraverted even though I'm not.

[INTrPosr]

From the cognitive processes tests that I have taken I usually get Ne as the strongest function. I can see how this is true since I am always looking for possibilities and ways to relate different ideas that would seemingly be unrelated. Nevertheless, when I read the profile for the ENTP it doesn't match my personality.We utilize all of the functions at any given time, however INTPs use Ne as it's natural means of extraverting. INTPs can also use the other extraverting type functions, however must become conscious of using them. Some of them (i.e. Te and Fe) would be so unnatural for INTP, as to appear infatile. The test you allude to only shows that you are having to extravert more than usual presently. This is not necessarily in being social, but could mean that you are having to take a more active role in some means of extraverting.
Nevertheless, I am clever and can have fashes of sociability. But I think that the sociability is forced because I've always wanted to fit in somewhere and be happy.Not all extraverted types are that social. But don't confuse being sociable with being intimate. When ETPs socialize, it's usually a facade. They have no personal stake and are not allowing anyone to truly know them at that state.
I would like to know if ENTP are at all introspective because that could be a deciding factor in determing the type. If they are not then I know for sure that I am an INTP. Also, could there be self protectionist ENTP's.ENTPs are highly introspective, keep in mind their dominant introverted type function is Ti. My supervisor is cleary ESP (most likely ESTP). There are days that I have to ask if he is okay because he is so pensive. ENTPs will tell you that they are always asked if everything is okay, because they are not having a dialogue. I guess when ENTPs become introspective, it must appear painful to on-lookers.

[rawr]

I wish i was an E. It would make life a whole lot easyer.

[INThoughtPolice]

I wish i was an E. It would make life a whole lot easyer.
I wish I were an I for the same reason. The E doesn't always bring social competence and acceptance, especially for ENTPs.

[INTrPosr]

For those believing they may be ENTP, how many believe the need for change, for it's own sake, is necessary? I personally consider it an antithesis.

[waxwing]

For those believing they may be ENTP, how many believe the need for change, for it's own sake, is necessary? I personally consider it an antithesis.
I feel stupid, but I cannot understand the following ideas in the sentence. Maybe you can clarify because I get the impression that it's a good question.

need for change "for it's own sake" - as in the outcome of being restless without another reason?

antithesis - are you asking whether need for change and it's own sake form an antithetical statement? Then, you are suggesting that another reason besides "for its own sake" is necessary for you personally? If so, what is an example?

[INTrPosr]

Many descriptions of ENTP reflect a need for change for it's own sake, which I connote as for no specific reason. I strongly believe there is no need to re-invent the wheel every day and can be skeptical of change just because. Is that better?

[waxwing]

Many descriptions of ENTP reflect a need for change for it's own sake, which I connote as for no specific reason. I strongly believe there is no need to re-invent the wheel every day and can be skeptical of change just because. Is that better?
Yes, now I understand.

For me, it depends on which area of my life we're discussing. One area might be categorized as not having significant consequences: for example, I am driving home from work, and suddenly feel bored with my normal route, so take back roads that prove more stimulating, even though there's a good chance I'll get lost. Or slightly more significant: I need a change of scenery (which includes change of people in my life, place of residence, employment, and so on...) so I move to a new area for the sake of new experience. I've also been known to impulsively cut hair, alter style, change diet because I find that even minor changes in environment/body bring about mental and emotional challenges.

But when you are discussing things outside that personal realm, let's say policy modification, I always provide reasons for suggesting or implementing a revision. It's not smart to change somebody else's routine on a whim without first observing, experimenting from afar, and weighing pros and cons. This often comes into play in my social work job.

So, yeah, maybe one category would be more about systems and networks of change (where I'd more more hesitant) and the other would be the changes in stimuli that primarily affect me (where I often change for the sake of change). I suppose it could be argued that the latter category is not devoid of reasoning, but I would say that the reasons usually change of their own accord with mood and so on.

[Amethyst]

I'm borderline E/I. I'm fundamentally an introvert, but I've gone through periods of strong extroversion.

The ENTP description fits me nearly as well as INTP, at times.

I also have the same situation, I took the MBTI test for 2 times recently,
first time the result was ENTP but few months later I took it again, I became INTP.

[wildcat]

The real extraverts are all Js. Ne and Se are impulsive functions. There is not a thread of activity in them. It is a sham extraversion.
The ENTPs are wild and crazy. As an ex-ENTP I know.

[Justin05]

Think about this. Vincent Van Gogh is recorded as being an ENFP and yet he led a very introverted life. I think his passion took him into a social world where he could become outgoing.

When I am a place where I can be passionate and have discussion w/ others examining ideas I am definitely outgoing. I think I am an ENTP in the sense that I am driven by art/architecture and ideas. I have no problem going at it alone and communicating ideas to others in the right situation/atmosphere.

I/ENTP

[Ferrus]

Sort of, but never a true ENTP. He just like an INTP - if not even more eccentric, weird and down right intellegent/knowledgable - but in spite of this, bizarrely popular and outgoing.

[INThoughtPolice]

Think about this. Vincent Van Gogh is recorded as being an ENFP and yet he led a very introverted life. I think his passion took him into a social world where he could become outgoing.

When I am a place where I can be passionate and have discussion w/ others examining ideas I am definitely outgoing. I think I am an ENTP in the sense that I am driven by art/architecture and ideas. I have no problem going at it alone and communicating ideas to others in the right situation/atmosphere.

I/ENTP
Yeah, I'm always waiting for that next meaningful conversation. Until then I am anything but wild and crazy.

[Ringoyam]

I think there are many ENTPs on this forum that tested INTP. I always tested INTP but I knew that something wasn't right. I need loads of alone time and I'm no socialite. ENTPs become extroverted when engaged in an idea, debate, or interesting conversation. We're clever and witty. Many ENTPs often wonder if they have Social Anxiety Disorder. There is just a social awkwardness that comes with being ENTP. ENTPs are usually very driven to become or achieve something and can easily motivate others to share their visions. I hope that this helps you out Justin. Your descriptions of yourself seem very ENTP.

Seems like me.

[Hunkychunky1]

I too swing from INTP to ENTP which is funny because i am told i have Bi Polar
disorder which means i am either up or down (Depressed and introverted or
totally confident and extrovert) which is very interesting. When i am stimulated and using my mind to achieve a buzz im on fire but when i am not stimulated i get very depressed. My mind need constant new challenges !.
I over analyse everything that interests me and am just not interested in
small talk. My brain seems to have a sorting system for information which it thinks is of use and discards the rest. Yes i am seen as arrogant !
I have become aware that others feel intimidated and threatened when i am
extrovert as they have been very aggressive and jealous of me in the past.
unfortunately i am a gentle kind sensitive soul who does not want to offend
others but i seem to end up having to fend of criticism and jealousy which
comes in the form of bullying and nit picking as others dont seem to understand me !.

INTPs can have a tendency to become Bi Polar apparently.....

[Fingers]

I'm most comfortable when I'm extrovert, although I don’t go out and seek to be in social situations I hate "hanging out", I'd rather just do my own thing. Introversion makes me go lala thoughts just bouncing in my head with no expression sucks.

[Ryuko]

Hmm, I've been told by a lot of people that it seems I have bipolar disorder, but the difference between you and I is that when I do get in those very good moods, I don't get very extroverted. I hold a lot of it in, depending on if I'm happy or sad... but people can tell if I'm in a good mood because I smile more and am less likely to have a 'glazed, distant look' on my face. I don't get in uber-good moods as much as I do uber-bad ones, though, so it leads me to believe I'm more likely to just be chronically depressed than bipolar. I'm not sure if INTP's are exactly linked with depression... some have said it's so, but I doubt that for every single one... It's probably common, though, that's for sure.

[SCARYdoor]

I'm in the process of developing social skills. I never really developed any during high school, because I was too socially awkward. So now I find it quite fun to just explore new situations, and see how well I can drive a conversation/interaction forward. So it is more of an experiment.

A while ago I thought that maybe I was an entp, but shortly after I started getting incredibly bored in most conversations. I think I just explored all the possibilities, and now they have nothing to offer, except mindless rambling conversations about nothing. I feel very drained after talking with most people.

[spasmfrog]

I haven't become an ENTP but I think I'd like to try it. How do I subscribe to the newsletter?

[Kristiana]

I too swing from INTP to ENTP which is funny because i am told i have Bi Polar
disorder which means i am either up or down (Depressed and introverted or
totally confident and extrovert) which is very interesting. When i am stimulated and using my mind to achieve a buzz im on fire but when i am not stimulated i get very depressed. My mind need constant new challenges !.
I over analyse everything that interests me and am just not interested in
small talk. My brain seems to have a sorting system for information which it thinks is of use and discards the rest. Yes i am seen as arrogant !
I have become aware that others feel intimidated and threatened when i am
extrovert as they have been very aggressive and jealous of me in the past.
unfortunately i am a gentle kind sensitive soul who does not want to offend
others but i seem to end up having to fend of criticism and jealousy which
comes in the form of bullying and nit picking as others dont seem to understand me !.

INTPs can have a tendency to become Bi Polar apparently.....

I have bipolar, too!

I do notice that when I'm hypomanic, I'm a lot more extroverted, and when I'm severely depressed, I shut everyone out except for my husband. Compared to the real extroverts though, I'm not really extroverted at all, hypomanic or no.

Most people don't understand me, either. ;)

[ATPB]

I used to be unsure of whether or not I was an INTP or an ENTP. Now I'm pretty sure that I'm an INTP (if borderline I...) after having prolonged contact with two ENTPs, who are incidentally greats guys. I still act out as if I'm an ENTP at certain times though and some of the ENTP description is very accurate for me as well.

[Amethyst]

I wish I were an I for the same reason. The E doesn't always bring social competence and acceptance, especially for ENTPs.

Well...I was an E and I couldn't agree with you more...

[Miss Anthropic]

I pretend some days.....when I feel like it. Remember I to E is a continuum, it's not one or the other but instead degrees.

[Imen de Naars]

I used to think I was ENTP. Then I met some ENTPs IRL, and I thought I was ENTJ. Then I met some ENTJs, and I finally found out that I am ESTP. The strange thing is, I tend to stay far away from other ESTPs IRL because they bug the shit out of me.

[Imen de Naars]

The real extraverts are all Js. Ne and Se are impulsive functions. There is not a thread of activity in them.

Finally somebody figured this shit out too! I though I were the only one.

EJs are the bugging extraverts that go around doing shit all day long
EPs either are absolutely hyper, or look dead bored


Not all extraverted types are that social. But don't confuse being sociable with being intimate. When ETPs socialize, it's usually a facade. They have no personal stake and are not allowing anyone to truly know them at that state.

Yeah, that's right.

[Rice-Tactics]

not that I know of... 2 of my best friends are ENTP

[Jennywocky]

I usually score as an INTP. I=67, n=85, t=22, p=25. Anyway, I took a different test the other day and scored as an ENTP. I have and do continue to be involved in many ENTP type affairs. For example, I mowed 19 lawns at the age of 15 and purchased my own car. That business made me lots of money. I have waited tables and I have actually been a supervisor which is something I think INTP's would run the hell away from. Anyway, I think I could actually be a moderately expressed E. Is anyway else like this? I do enjoy arguing for the sake of arguing as well.


Forgive me for not reading the rest of the thread before responding, in case I'm being redundant.

ENTP and INTP have a lot in common, but there are significant differences.

The largest is that ENTPs run off Ne and support it with Ti -- they are constantly "scanning for opportunities" in the outer world and then use Thinking as a tool to make things happen. But their focus is always first and last on the possibilities and what might be brought about.

The INTP runs off Ti and supports it with Ne -- they strongly desire to process and evaluate things in order to clearly define what is, and they use their intuition to feed the process, assessing the true possibilities in the outer world. But the focus is always first and last on the final evaluation -- the rules under which the world works.

I have an ENTP buddy. When we're together in person, we're a hoot -- we both go into Ne mode and get positively insane with our goofing off and punning off each other.

But when we talk in e-mail (about a serious topic), we often get into arguments / annoyed with each other because we're enough alike to expect to come at things the same way, but different enough to cause a lot of conflict. It's where his Ne focus and my Ti focus really comes out.

It also gets rather bad because I'm now in "serious data crunching" mode because of the Ti focus whereas he's still being whimsical and screwing around. So I might pick an argument as "devil's advocate" with the actual purpose of exploring an idea and its validity, where he will just see the possibilties to make the discussion "interesting" and take things in whatever direction suits his fancy rather than going where the data points. My desire to focus and his to explore butts heads.

Based on your very brief description of yourself, I would consider you ENTP. Still, it depends on your background/upbringing and the specifics of your personality.

But who cares? :) You can hang out here as long as you want.

[Jennywocky]

I used to think I was ENTP. Then I met some ENTPs IRL, and I thought I was ENTJ. Then I met some ENTJs, and I finally found out that I am ESTP. The strange thing is, I tend to stay far away from other ESTPs IRL because they bug the shit out of me.

So here's a test of that: What's your impression of George W. Bush?