Hypnotism, Rapport and Mind Control

[Utopmk]

Do you belive that you can influence people's thoughts and actions with hypnotism?

If I am forced to talk to people, irl, I want to have the advantage, and entertainment of making them my own little puppet. I have read up, and put to practice many techniques. The following is, in my own words, the ones I have found most effective:

#1. Wearing a flashy, shiney watch on the left hand. (or anything that draws attention to the left hand)

#2. Playing music (if available) that matches the heart rate.( 80-100 bpm)

#3. Speaking in an un-changing tone. (You already know how to do that)

#4 Projecting an open body language - Palms in plain view, slight tilt of the head ( to show interest",, fake smile and plenty of eye contact.

#5. Left hand movement on words/suggestions you want to implant.(watch the politicians)

#6.Using sensory triggers - For some people it's food, for some it's remembering the way the sand on the beach felt between their toes, for some it's the way the ocean sounded..ect..you get the point..

What are your personal feelings on the use of hypnotism to control those around you?

[mgb]

Are you trying to be a magician or get to know people?

Personally, I don't think talking to be people should be a performance. I think you are just trying to talk to the wrong people. If you find someone that has the same interests as you and intelligence you won't need a shiny watch to dazzle them. If a shiny watch does dazzle them they are probably functionally retarded and you don't want to talk to them anyway.

Can you do it? Yes. Is it an advantage to? Depends on the situation. Should you? Probably not.

[Utopmk]

Hmmm, a magician for sure.

The watch isn't for bling bling, as I mentioned.

Social anxiety makes one feel vunerable and inferior sometimes. I deserve the edge.

When you take away morality and values, it is no longer a question of if you should or shouldn't do something. Instead, you ask rather or not you want to...

I want to. :)

[HeyBooU]

But if you are willing to work hard on this then why not work hard on controlling your social anxiety?

[Utopmk]

Control over others is easier than control over myself.

[HeyBooU]

Control over others is easier than control over myself.

That is kind of sad.

[INTrPosr]

Do you belive that you can influence people's thoughts and actions with hypnotism?

I question hypnotic suggestion. I have tried going under on several occasions, however, I am immune.

I don't think that I would care to be responsible for any consequences of taking such action toward someone else. That would be liking asking if you would like to lead a cult or any other mindless group. JMHO :D

[Utopmk]

Control over others is easier than control over myself.

That is kind of sad.

What's even sadder is that I probably know you in real life. Even live in the same county.

[InsurgentAlpha]

Hypnotism is one thing (and doesn't work on all people) but wearing flashy watches, moving your left hand, tipping your head while wearing a fake smile and maintaining maniacal eye contact is another. I would be concerned for you not hypnotized. And if you imitated the sound of the ocean or put sand between my toes that would be the clincher and I'd be forced to sock you in the face. lol

[Utopmk]

It's alot harder to fall for textual hypnotism..almost impossible even.

If you don't relate left hand suggestion and body language with hypnotism, then you know less about the subject matter than I do, as even professional hypnotists use the same techniques.

And I've never imitated the ocean or put sand between people's toes. :lol:

I was really hoping to have a good discussion on hypnosis, but instead I get the same old bitter skepticism and flamage.

:zzz:

[MacGuffin]

I hypnotized my brother once after observing a professional hypnotist. It was fun!

[Utopmk]

I hypnotized my brother once after observing a professional hypnotist. It was fun!

What did you make him do?

[MacGuffin]

I hypnotized my brother once after observing a professional hypnotist. It was fun!

What did you make him do?

I told him he couldn't speak, and then asked him a question. And for a few seconds - he couldn't talk!

Didn't last long though.

Never tried it again, I already proved I could do it once.

[InsurgentAlpha]

It's alot harder to fall for textual hypnotism..almost impossible even.

If you don't relate left hand suggestion and body language with hypnotism, then you know less about the subject matter than I do, as even professional hypnotists use the same techniques.

And I've never imitated the ocean or put sand between people's toes. :lol:

I was really hoping to have a good discussion on hypnosis, but instead I get the same old bitter skepticism and flamage.

:zzz:

I'm just not interested in it because it doesn't work on me. I was being sarcastic about the ocean and sand thing... hehe.

Not trying to flame you, I'm just a cocky bastard don't mind me... I'm always like this. :devil:

[SheepDog]

I prefer subtle manipulation. Kind of a verbal ninjitsu, where they don't even know it's happening. This occurs over multiple interactions.

[heeroyuy]

I prefer subtle manipulation. Kind of a verbal ninjitsu, where they don't even know it's happening. This occurs over multiple interactions.

I agree. If your overall goal is to just trick someone so you can laugh at how powerful you are and that they are a mindless dolt, suit yourself.

If you want to actually change peoples minds the key is to suggest ideas that they would do that you want done. Suggestion of things that they otherwise wouldn't have thought of, and make them think it was their idea over time.

I figure that most people are already dolts, so during the time that I do speak I use it to play with people (this is only with people I know are not 'nice' people, in other words people that make my life miserable for no reason. I don't ever do this when I just get to know someone, as there's little point in doing it then :))

[Utopmk]

I've never made anyone do very strange things. I do, indeed keep it subtle.
Usually, I just want people to agree with me until I leave the room.

[MacGuffin]

When you can get them to agree after you leave the room, that is when you have real power!

[Sackanaka]

verbal ninjitsu

that is when you have real power!
:huh: Am I just imagining things or am I seeing a trend here... REAL ULTIMATE POWER!!!
*cue big pimpin'*

:ph34r:

(ps I still hate Big Pimpin')

[MacGuffin]

verbal ninjitsu

that is when you have real power!
:huh: Am I just imagining things or am I seeing a trend here... REAL ULTIMATE POWER!!!
*cue big pimpin'*

:ph34r:

(ps I still hate Big Pimpin')

Sweet! I seriously almost used that quote in my reply. Probably subconsciously saw the ninja reference.

[Tranzors]

Have you guys ever heard of television? it's controlling people's minds. I quit watching it because of it. MTV does also, making kids do the shit they do.

[Sam172]

I prefer subtle manipulation. Kind of a verbal ninjitsu, where they don't even know it's happening. This occurs over multiple interactions.

Oh I just make people think i'm mad. Then they just agree with me until I leave. Usually the subtle wide staring eyes, random laughter and fidgity hands works :D

[Sam172]

Have you guys ever heard of television? it's controlling people's minds. I quit watching it because of it. MTV does also, making kids do the shit they do.

Another TV boycotter :D

*edit* ahhh, it's post 333....half the number of the beast :o

[Tranzors]

oh, and mirroring. Mirror people's actions. Watch how much can get faster when you do this.

[Star Cannon]

Thats sad. I don't believe that's the best way to get ones kicks... remember, what goes around comes around.

Star Cannon

[SheepDog]

I quit watching TV because it was making me absentminded.

[Tranzors]

I quit watching TV because it was making me absentminded.

I quit because it's racist, and it teaches you WHAT to think. I'm an independent thinkr ok!

[SheepDog]

That's just for starters. I was just being lighthearted, btw. You are right that TV is a tool for mind control. Advertising is a particularly sinister form of mind control.

[heeroyuy]

Thanks to the internet we have almost any knowledge that you could want literally at your finger tips, you can talk to people from half way around the world with ease and no delay for no cost to yourself, and there is a community for just about everything. Regardless of all this, most people would rather sit down and watch tv. Who wouldn't want to watch a guy and a girl flirt with each other while they make jokes, that are half serious, of what they'll do when they return to their appartment!!!!!

This, ladies and gents, is why I hate humanity :).

[Napoleon]

If you have read the intro of myself you will read that i have been into hypnotism for some time.

Hypnose with someone sitting in a chair and and you trying to help is what i like, but if you are going to use it to manipulate people than you are going in the wrong direction.
You aren't talking to the logical mind when u use tricks like that, u are taking the direct route without the person knowing.
Writing this and thinking about it i must admit that it isn't easy to draw a line. Some subject i have been into are Negotiating, bodylanguage, lies, Small talk, Dale carnegie books about winning friends and influance people. And where do you draw the line of manipulating the other person without his knowledge that you are doing that? To be honest i dont know.

Maybe some people here heard about speed seduction, wich is a technique used to seduce woman be telling story's and giving them all sort of emotions. When i read about it i hated it but it seems that some people use this kind of stuff.
It all depends on where you draw the line for yourself realy.

[INTrPosr]

Have you guys ever heard of television? it's controlling people's minds. I quit watching it because of it.

Back in the 50's and 60's, the movie theaters were allowed to project subliminal suggestions onto the screen, to entice people to buy popcorn, soda, etc. I read in the 80's that they banned the practice, but you never know?

[Utopmk]

When most people think of hypnotism, they think about what they've seen on television...The man who makes people think they are chickens, or ducks, or that they are eating an apple when they are really eating an onion, while everyone laughs at what fools they are. Yeah, well, that isn't what I do, so: http://www.intpcentral.com/uploads/fyou.gif =P

Think you can't be hypnotized? When was your last orgasm? When was the last time you took a shit? When was the last time you got chill bumps from a good song? When was the last time you found yourself staring into your computer's monitor, asking yourself where all the hours went? When was the last time someone caught you off guard?

Marked by a void of thought, there are several times, each day, when you are already open to hypnotic suggestion. Like it or not, you are game for some form of hypnotism.



Have you guys ever heard of television? it's controlling people's minds. I quit watching it because of it.

Back in the 50's and 60's, the movie theaters were allowed to project subliminal suggestions onto the screen, to entice people to buy popcorn, soda, etc. I read in the 80's that they banned the practice, but you never know?

I've heard that too, but I also heard that they never stopped, and that there is no law forbidding the practice.


Subliminal Messages in Advertising

A form of subliminal messaging commonly believed to exist involves the insertion of "hidden" messages into movies and TV programs. The concept of "moving pictures" relies on persistence of vision to create the illusion of movement in a series of images projected at 23 to 50 frames per second; the popular theory of subliminal messages usually suggests that subliminal commands can be inserted into this sequence at the rate of perhaps 1 frame in 25 (or roughly 1 frame per second, with a duration of about 1/25 of 1 second). The hidden command in a single frame will flash across the screen so quickly that it is not consciously perceived, but the command will supposedly appeal to the subconscious mind of the viewer, and thus have some measurable effect in terms of behavior.

[SheepDog]

Think you can't be hypnotized? When was your last orgasm? When was the last time you took a shit?
Wow. I never knew... :o