Support our troops, worship our troops

[joft]

sacrifice a goat to our troops :worthy:

God gave us "freedom," our troops "defend" it. hallelujah, praise our troops :worthy:

when the theocracy has blossomed into its full establishment, serving in the military will be a free pass into heaven. instead of medals, beatification into sainthood will be awarded for service. thank god for our men and women in uniform. no wait, god should thank them; without them, he'd have to give us new freedom all the time because people would keep taking it away from us :referee:

[Dr. Haight]

Amen.

[Claverhouse]

My name is Claverhouse and I approve this thread.


Claverhouse :ph34r:

[Madrigal]

sacrifice a goat to our troops :worthy:

God gave us "freedom," our troops "defend" it. hallelujah, praise our troops :worthy:

when the theocracy has blossomed into its full establishment, serving in the military will be a free pass into heaven. instead of medals, beatification into sainthood will be awarded for service. thank god for our men and women in uniform. no wait, god should thank them; without them, he'd have to give us new freedom all the time because people would keep taking it away from us :referee:
Why don't you sign up? They could use some more young blood.

[joft]

alas, i have flat feet. i must earn my salvation through lifelong dedication and obedience like the rest of us peons

[LongSilence]

I think the current big players in the US military would have something to say about this establishment. They don't want "their" troops thinking they're getting paid with sainthoods- after all, how are they supposed to cash damned sainthoods in for the latest model of washing machine when they get home?

[Claverhouse]

...after all, how are they supposed to cash damned sainthoods in for the latest model of washing machine when they get home?

Suppose they don't get home ?


Claverhouse :ph34r:

[LongSilence]

Well, at least they almost definitely died wearing their standard issue uniforms, bought and paid for, and were probably killed gloriously by a mass-produced missile of some sort. In fact, the dead ones are the ones who prove that the shit works.

[Lurker]

Well, at least they almost definitely died wearing their standard issue uniforms, bought and paid for, and were probably killed gloriously by a mass-produced missile of some sort. In fact, the dead ones are the ones who prove that the shit works.

:wtf:

[Nighthawk]

From my experience, the troops are peons in the hands of government ... even more so than non-military citizens, as their lives are directly at stake. There is little glory in fighting and, despite being volunteers, most troops do not want to be doing that.

[libertarianjim]

alas, i have flat feet. i must earn my salvation through lifelong dedication and obedience like the rest of us peons

Roll them over Coke bottles. That's what Jimmy Carter did.

[LongSilence]

All I'm saying is that the majority of this and the last century's wars have not been theocratic really at all. The churches of the aggressors have pretty much been sideline players to say a few approbative words. Does anyone think that had the Catholic Church really kicked up a fuss (well, more than it did) either Afghanistan or Iraq would NOT have been invaded? The only truly theocratic state currently 'at war' is Israel. And Israel has always been a more 'racial' religion anyway (that's fighting to keep its place in the Middle East).

[cafe]

The "Support our troops" thing is more about Viet Nam than anything else.

[booyalab]

everyone's overcompensating now, to prevent all of the disrespect shown towards the troops after and during the Vietnam war.
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now there are competitions as to which party "supports the troops" more, it's better than rudeness, but the extent to which it's taken is meaningless. (simply saying you support the troops doesn't help them at all. saying it louder doesn't help them more)

[Lurker]

I support the individuals who join the military and end up in Iraq. They're being used as pawns by one of the most power mongering administrations the U.S. has had in a long time. What's unfortunate is that people confuse supporting the troops (aka, individuals) with supporting the government and its decisions.

[Hustler]

now there are competitions as to which party "supports the troops" more, it's better than rudeness, but the extent to which it's taken is meaningless. (simply saying you support the troops doesn't help them at all. saying it louder doesn't help them more)

How do you propose that I support the troops in a way which is helpful to them?

[Johnny]

How do you propose that I support the troops in a way which is helpful to them?

I didn't know the poster was so hard to miss

[last_caress]

now there are competitions as to which party "supports the troops" more, it's better than rudeness, but the extent to which it's taken is meaningless. (simply saying you support the troops doesn't help them at all. saying it louder doesn't help them more)

Not putting them in harms way for $$$ does.

[Johnny]

Not putting them in harms way for $$$ does.

People risk their lives for money every day...some for greater risks than what military personnel face

[Johnny]

sacrifice a goat to our troops :worthy:

Today, it will be pig...covered in barbecue sauce...and eaten :rocker:

[last_caress]

People risk their lives for money every day...some for greater risks than what military personnel face

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[Johnny]

Yes that's it last_caress now you're beginning to see

[Stoic]

Since the majority of troops want out by the end of this year, technically, 'supporting our troops' would equate to bringing them home.

[last_caress]

Yes that's it last_caress now you're beginning to see

That you continue to miss the point?
Yes.

[nomir_dva]

The best way to support the troops is to petition for more wars, as it is clearly their goal to participate in combat, and preferably return as casualties.

[Johnny]

That you continue to miss the point?
Yes.

No your point is clear, last_caress, to my mind. I just think sarcasm is a retarded response to world problems.

But o.k., what is your point, then? I'm ready for your insights.

[Nighthawk]

How do you propose that I support the troops in a way which is helpful to them?

I send them booze ... wrapped up to look like Listerine. That was what I wanted when I was over there.

[Nighthawk]

Since the majority of troops want out by the end of this year, technically, 'supporting our troops' would equate to bringing them home.

I strongly concur.

[Johnny]

I strongly concur.

Why keep our troops in the US? With so many armed civilians in this country, we practically have a standing army in place already.

If you mean bring them back for further training, well, I won't argue with that!

[Nighthawk]

Why keep our troops in the US? With so many armed civilians in this country, we practically have a standing army in place already.

If you mean bring them back for further training, well, I won't argue with that!

I wouldn't call most of these yahoos a standing army ... but I am biased.

[Metal_Fingers]

I send them booze ... wrapped up to look like Listerine. That was what I wanted when I was over there.
Why waste the Listerine? Just send the liquor in it's bottle. No one checks anyway.

[Nighthawk]

Why waste the Listerine? Just send the liquor in it's bottle. No one checks anyway.

Hmmmm ... they used to confiscate the liquor in bottles when I was over there. Lots of mail censoring to remove things that would offend the host country. Have things changed in that respect?

[digesthisickness]

i admit to being flat foot ignorant but purely for educational purposes. what does that have to do with how competent/effective a soldier can be?

[joft]

we disperse weight/energy less effectively, can fatigue quicker, can have foot/ankle pain, and unaligned skeletons

[digesthisickness]

so basically, you people are just an accident waiting to happen. i see.

seriously though, seems like if all of that can go wrong with a person just based on feet, it would have somehow become an evolutionary 'turn off' button for humans. but i digress... and for no damn good reason. carry on.

[floid]

Require that those who declare, sanction, vote for, or otherwise cause and perpetuate war serve in the front lines of that war until the war, or their mortal life, ends -- whichever comes first.

This will solve two problems with one soldier or provide ample assurance that war will never happen in the first place.

[Madrigal]

Require that those who declare, sanction, vote for, or otherwise cause and perpetuate war serve in the front lines of that war until the war, or their mortal life, ends -- whichever comes first.


Since this is impossible, the answer is to wage war against those who send citizens to fight for the warmongers' economic/geopolitical interests. Those warmongers are the ruling class, so the logical answer would be to wage class war. Not that I'm doing that right now. :whistle:

[Metal_Fingers]

Hmmmm ... they used to confiscate the liquor in bottles when I was over there. Lots of mail censoring to remove things that would offend the host country. Have things changed in that respect?
When I was there, there was far more censorship on outgoing then on incomming mail. Guys were getting full bottles of Captain Morgan, Hypnotic, and the like.

[Nighthawk]

When I was there, there was far more censorship on outgoing then on incomming mail. Guys were getting full bottles of Captain Morgan, Hypnotic, and the like.

Cool ... thanks for the tip. No more Listerine bottles.

[Metal_Fingers]

Hey no problem! The one thing you'll want to take into consideration though, is their command. The person you'll sending it to better be reasonably smart enough to keep it hidden from staff and officers (those that care anyway).

[Limey]

I agree with this message.
Every time I take a look into my social network (like all the cool kids these days) it irritates me to see the blind, simple Lego logic being used by these fucking pedant friends, family and acquaintances.

Like, they can only see that, and not the unwanted export of culture, illegal invasion of sovereign nations (the last president didn't even know the fucking literal meaning of the word "sovereign") the double standards and all the negative shit that make it too complicated to simply start rooster calling for the work of the troops, like Romans, baying and bleating for the fall of Gaul.

[MountainHiker]

I live in Colorado Springs with it's Army base, two Air Force bases and the Air Force Academy; and military worship is alive and well here 24-7-365. If you're not in the military and find our current wars a complete waste, as I do, it's puke inducing actually.

I believe the whole military worship of modern day America is due to the military-industrial complex taking over huge chunks of our economy. They market the military that way so the sheep will never question the military budget, or really, anything the military does. To do so is unpatriotic. They have a done a fine job with the less discerning minds.

The military worship here has its own moments of hypocritical hilarity with all of the right wing nuts here who hate the federal government, yet pull down a federal gov't check, or work for companies that ONLY have contracts with the Dept. of Aggression and have never done work for anyone else. It's amazing how they see the military part of the Federal government as incapable of doing anything wrong and the rest of the Federal government incapable of doing anything right. Such is the way of the true believer.