Women are absurd!

[Groty]

I am a single INTP that is excited by challenging women.


Why are so many women obsessed with their breast size and hip size?

Why do so many women talk about the "Other Guys" in their lives?

I am sick and tired of it. I have been with women than shame Jenna Jameson and.... women that did not have such radical curves.

Trust me, the looks of women mean little when it comes to intimacy!!!!

Wooo hooo! There was one!

Why? I realize that so many women are concerned with such things. As an INTP, how do I make women overly concerned with their looks comfortable enough to be themselves when spending time with me?

I dream of a Comfident Lady. I always aim to make them feel comfortable, but I don't think they understand.

[Vagabond]

Maybe asking INTP women about this won't help you much to deal with "normal" women..?

[Groty]

Maybe asking INTP women about this won't help you much to deal with "normal" women..?

Yeah, I know, that was not the point.

INTP women listen to, and over hear, "normal women" more than men do. I am asking the question as an INTP man, trying to gain an understanding of such situations from an INTP women's viewpoint.

That is all.

Thank you Ladies!

[Avengardh]

Maybe asking INTP women about this won't help you much to deal with "normal" women..?

Yeah, I know, that was not the point.

INTP women listen to, and over hear, "normal women" more than men do. I am asking the question as an INTP man, trying to gain an understanding of such situations from an INTP women's viewpoint.

That is all.

Thank you Ladies!

I agree with Vaga. Not really going to be able to help here, I don't get normal women either, I just don't bother with people who are like that *shrug*.

[lauriep]

I agree with Vagabond, I'm not sure that asking the women on this forum may be much help. While I do occasionally over hear "normal" women, it's only to laugh at them. Whenever possible I try to avoid them and make a point not to listen to their babble.


Why are so many women obsessed with their breast size and hip size?

I always thought it was the men that were obsessed about those things. I don't know of many women that talk about it among themselves, but then I don't hang around "normal" women.


Why do so many women talk about the "Other Guys" in their lives?

Usually to make fun of the said guys.

[Vagabond]

Usually people buy into the ideals the society projects. The social ideal of an attractive woman is one with long legs, slim body, curves put in the right places, well dressed, makeup on, playing with her hair and being more cute than smart. I was just as surprised to realise many men have similar issues (though not to the degree women do), feeling bad about not being muscular, or having a little belly or some grey hair... stuff that I find cute, or of no importance... but see, society's projected ideal of a man is muscular, tanned, strong, blah blah... people just need to realise that what they see on TV is not what they should be like in order to be attractive; they should develop their own strong points, and these are bound to be different in each person. So what I am saying is, women that are so concerned about their breasts or their appearence in general are like this, because they believe that is the only thing men are attracted to - super models.

[SheepDog]

Yeah, but it's mostly the advertisers telling us we need their products in order to be attractive.

[Sackanaka]

You know what's funny? I wonder if anyone else has the same experience: I keep forgetting that there's gender in this forum, except for those with female avatars (i.e. lauriep), and those who are male with female avatars, I tend to think are female. Okay, maybe that was unnecessary and out of context with the thread, but I truly do find a lack of the "usual" hints that the writer is female (writing "cute", using redundant "oh my gosh"-type of responses, etc.)

[Niflheimian]

You know what's funny? I wonder if anyone else has the same experience: I keep forgetting that there's gender in this forum, except for those with female avatars (i.e. lauriep), and those who are male with female avatars, I tend to think are female. Okay, maybe that was unnecessary and out of context with the thread, but I truly do find a lack of the "usual" hints that the writer is female (writing "cute", using redundant "oh my gosh"-type of responses, etc.)

That occasionally happens to me. Usually if no one has their gender underneath their avator, I use my intuition to determine their sex (which has proven unreliable in at least one case...). But the sort of "cute" and cliche responses tend to come more from extraverted (sensing) feelers...which are in the minority (nonexistent, I think) here. :nerd: Thinkers aren't likely to show as much emotion (as Feelers) either.



but see, society's projected ideal of a man is muscular, tanned, strong, blah blah...

Heh, I have none of these attributes; and I'm not losing any sleep over it.

[Vagabond]

but see, society's projected ideal of a man is muscular, tanned, strong, blah blah...

Heh, I have none of these attributes; and I'm not losing any sleep over it.
Well you wouldn't see me talking about diets and breasts either, that's why I said this forum is probably not the most appropriate to explain why most people are like this... ;)

[lauriep]

You know what's funny? I wonder if anyone else has the same experience: I keep forgetting that there's gender in this forum, except for those with female avatars (i.e. lauriep), and those who are male with female avatars, I tend to think are female. Okay, maybe that was unnecessary and out of context with the thread, but I truly do find a lack of the "usual" hints that the writer is female (writing "cute", using redundant "oh my gosh"-type of responses, etc.)

:blush:
Too bad my avatar is a lot more girlie than I am. ;P

Actually I don't really notice gender here much either, even when there are gender specific avatars. Except of course in the mature section, then it's pretty obvious. :D

[lauriep]

Why? I realize that so many women are concerned with such things. As an INTP, how do I make women overly concerned with their looks comfortable enough to be themselves when spending time with me?

I dream of a Comfident Lady. I always aim to make them feel comfortable, but I don't think they understand.

Unless you can counter the effects of television, advertising, and society you probably won't be able to do much to make them feel more comfortable with themselves. If you want a confident lady, you will probably have to find one that is comfortable with herself to begin with.

[ohnoaninfp]

I am a single INTP that is excited by challenging women.


Why are so many women obsessed with their breast size and hip size?

Why do so many women talk about the "Other Guys" in their lives?

I am sick and tired of it. I have been with women than shame Jenna Jameson and.... women that did not have such radical curves.

Trust me, the looks of women mean little when it comes to intimacy!!!!

Wooo hooo! There was one!

Why? I realize that so many women are concerned with such things. As an INTP, how do I make women overly concerned with their looks comfortable enough to be themselves when spending time with me?

I dream of a Comfident Lady. I always aim to make them feel comfortable, but I don't think they understand.


Maybe it is because the way the media shows us how we are supposed to look, and if we don't fit the media's ideal then we are worthless, according to many. Also experiance has something to do with it. If girl is treated like shit by every guy who claims to like her, she may feel worthless. Change how the fucking media portrays us, then we will change our attitudes. Oh bye the way you are a decent guy. Too bad most other people don't see it the way you do.

[Division56]

but see, society's projected ideal of a man is muscular, tanned, strong, blah blah...

Heh, I have none of these attributes; and I'm not losing any sleep over it.
Well you wouldn't see me talking about diets and breasts either, that's why I said this forum is probably not the most appropriate to explain why most people are like this... ;)



*hides in corner eating Atkins safe food and working out*

[BritainOphira]

My original response to this thread was going to be along the lines of, "Yes, of course women are absurd, they wear high heels and often won't complain about the massive amount of pain they cause. (All of my pants were dirty today so I had to experiance life in a skirt, sans Chucks.) :rant:

Anyway,


Why are so many women obsessed with their breast size and hip size?

Why do so many women talk about the "Other Guys" in their lives?


I think a lot of this has to do with the stereotypes placed on females by society. Even our mother's don't help break this image. (Trust me, I have experienced all the horror that is being small busted with hips that won't stop, thanks to my own family.)
As far as the whole talking about other guys thing, I think it is just a way for people to try to boost their own confidence, and it is not necessarily a female trait. I mean, how many times have you heard other guys bragging about how many girls they can hook up with or ogling anything that breathe's looks? (Not that girls are any better, but I needed an example.)

[SheepDog]

This is part of the process. Learning to recognise those that don't suit you will help you recognize the right person when she comes along. No matter how long it takes...

[smellysock]

Why are so many women obsessed with their breast size and hip size?

Why do so many women talk about the "Other Guys" in their lives?



Why do so many men speak of "boobs", the strength of their erection, and volume of their biceps? It seems you have truly wondered into a wrong section. ;)

[Utopmk]

I have been lauging my ass off at Groty's first post. My first thought was "Groty has gone buck wild!" That thought made the whole thing even funnier to me.:rofl:


:toke:

[enydona]

It's too vain and shallow to bother with. There are too many people out there obsessing about their looks instead of life. Such a sad world we live in. (yes, I am dismissing it with a simple classification)

[Groty]

Well you wouldn't see me talking about diets and breasts either, that's why I said this forum is probably not the most appropriate to explain why most people are like this... ;)
I was a bit schnozzed when I wrote this. You're right, this isn't the most appropriate placed for this thread. Shoulda vented in Rants.

[Groty]

Maybe it is because the way the media shows us how we are supposed to look, and if we don't fit the media's ideal then we are worthless, according to many. Also experiance has something to do with it. If girl is treated like shit by every guy who claims to like her, she may feel worthless. Change how the fucking media portrays us, then we will change our attitudes. Oh bye the way you are a decent guy. Too bad most other people don't see it the way you do.Yes, I agree with you on the media. It's a cultural problem. If we lived in ancient Japan, I'd be ranting about women with curved feet - or if I were in parts of Africa , I'd be ranting about women that have stretched their necks with those ring things or lip disks... waiting for the day that they are comfortable with the length.

Thanks for the complement OhNo.

[Groty]

This is part of the process. Learning to recognise those that don't suit you will help you recognize the right person when she comes along. No matter how long it takes...
Yes, it is. It's kinda like building a Spam filter.:blink:

I must admit though, if I may over-generalize again... The divorced women(single context here) I meet seem to be the most comfortable with themselves. They know themselves better. Again, pardon the over-generalization.

[candela]

I truly do find a lack of the "usual" hints that the writer is female (writing "cute", using redundant "oh my gosh"-type of responses, etc.)I've had several people ask me if I was a girl online because of my writing. I'm not really sure how it comes across as feminine. I guess I'm not aggressive.

[MacGuffin]

I've had several people ask me if I was a girl online because of my writing. I'm not really sure how it comes across as feminine. I guess I'm not aggressive.

Chicks like candles. Your username looks like the word.

[candela]

At first, I was going to say I don't always use this name, but I think the few times people assumed I was a girl I was using this name.

[cjs55]

I'm usually pretty good about guessing gender from writing, but on this board I'm not so good. I don't notice anything about your writing that would point me towards female, but as has been said, the name gives it away.

[SensEye]

candela sounds sort of spanish to me, not that I speak any spanish, and I belive femine nouns in spanish end with an 'a' and masculine with an 'o' (spanish speakers please correct me if I am wrong).

Maybe you should change to candelo (or would it be candelos?).

[Groty]

The candela is the luminous intensity, in a given direction, of a source that emits monochromatic radiation of frequency 540 x 1012 hertz and that has a radiant intensity in that direction of 1/683 watt per steradian.http://physics.nist.gov/cuu/Units/candela.html