INtuition Experiment

[s0978]

It has been said that sometimes some of us think in pictures or structures, not necessarily words. Well, I was thinking about some of the members here at intpc, and thought this:

http://www.intpcentral.com/uploads/goof3.jpg



I do not think I can put it into words, though. I wonder if my thought makes sense to anyone else here, and if so, whether anyone might be able to articulate what it is I might be thinking?

[melancholeric]

CorporateWhore looks sort of lonely and alienated.

Suits him.

[shum]

i am trying to click the circle by my name but nothing is happening.

:confused:

[shum]

and i want my name beside claverhouse's name.

he is so fucking hot!

[Hustler]

I think you put Rhu in the wrong place.

[Vagabond]

I do not think I can put it into words, though. I wonder if my thought makes sense to anyone else here, and if so, whether anyone might be able to articulate what it is I might be thinking?
Order (and proximity) of resemblance in style/personality..?

[melancholeric]

You mean I am somehow similar with mgbradsh?

[s0978]

he is so fucking hot!yes, very. It's too bad he's only 14, isn't it?


*sighs*

[s0978]

I think you put Rhu in the wrong place.yes, I think you're right.

[s0978]

Order (and proximity) of resemblance in style/personality..?No, don't think any of those guys resemble each other much generally.


Except that CW is out there, you know, cause he's out there.

[Hustler]

Except that CW is out there, you know, cause he's out there.

I think that CW is out there because you know that if you met him, he'd try to talk you into a three-way with him and his wife or girlfriend or whoever that was in those pictures that got put up way back when.

[s0978]

You mean I am somehow similar with mgbradsh?only in a very particular - yet nebulous - way.

[melancholeric]

Care to elaborate?

edit: on a second thought, I'm not sure if I want to know ....

[s0978]

I think that CW is out there because you know that if you met him, he'd try to talk you into a three-way with him and his wife or girlfriend or whoever that was in those pictures that got put up way back when.pfft, your intuition's way off, man.

[s0978]

Care to elaborate?

edit: on a second thought, I'm not sure if I want to know ....no, yes, I mean I'm going to hush now, because I may very well ruin my own experiment.

Perhaps it makes no sense to anyone else. That might mean something there.

[LongSilence]

Hustler's at the bottom... hehe.

[Stillwater]

Interesting puzzler. My N says: looks like a trap. Step carefully.

Perhaps it represents the amount of time per day S0523 spends thinking about each individual member. CW is off the chart because you only think of him nocturnally, in your dreams.

[Hustler]

pfft, your intuition's way off, man.

That's not my intuition. That was something else. My intuition was dead-on accurate with my Rhu assessment.

[ApeTheDog]

My current guess: Leftwing/rightwing dichtomy - with the center being the conservatives.

It's not correct, though, because I'm more leftish than MacGuffin is, and Hustler is something of a socialist too.

Out of curiosity: Do you know the answer to your own question? (IE: Is there one?)

[s0978]

That's not my intuition. That was something else. My intuition was dead-on accurate with my Rhu assessment.yes dear.

[dunee]

Wild guess: Hustler could be interpreted as the bead at the end of a rope/thread (not necessarily "bottom" or "right"). MacG is at the open end of the thread, Corporate whore is the bead whose thread-hole was too small to put the thread through and S0523 put him to the side. Either that or the hole wasn't completely enclosed and he slipped off the thread and now stands to the side laughing sadistically at the others on the thread.

Has no one else noticed that short line that keeps moving around?

[s0978]

I have made some edits to the original image in light of recent postings.

[Stillwater]

some nebulous ratio of present intensity : overall longevity?

[ApeTheDog]

power of the individual posters intuition? My wrong guess means I'm relegated down the line.

[s0978]

Out of curiosity: Do you know the answer to your own question? (IE: Is there one?)Maybe. Somewhat. Really just experimenting. And I'm playing, but there's no "trap," heh.

[ApeTheDog]

It could also be a politeness/civility thing. Hustler is arrogant, MacGuffin is really cortious. I've been relegated because I just insulted a bunch of extroverts on another thread.

Edit: No. It doesn't explain the Rhu/Joft swap. It must be related to something entirely different. Something that can be measured, because that's the only explanation I can think of for having this swap. If it was tied in to a posters personality, there couldn't be a reason to substitute one for the other. Personalities don't decrease or increase in value, and an increase in joft's value of whatever this measures (paired with a decrease in Rhu's) is the only reason I can think of for substituting the one with the other in this infernal chart.

But why did I decrease? What has diminuished about me recently? I'm stumped, and thus consequently very interested in the explanation.

*reflexmatically begins to brace for disappointment*

[s0978]

It could also be a politeness/civility thing. Hustler is arrogant, MacGuffin is really cortious. I've been relegated because I just insulted a bunch of extroverts on another thread.

Edit: No. It doesn't explain the Rhu/Joft swap. It must be related to something entirely different. Something that can be measured, because that's the only explanation I can think of for having this swap. If it was tied in to a posters personality, there couldn't be a reason to substitute one for the other. Personalities don't decrease or increase in value, and an increase in joft's value of whatever this measures (paired with a decrease in Rhu's) is the only reason I can think of for substituting the one with the other in this infernal chart.

But why did I decrease? What has diminuished about me recently? I'm stumped, and thus consequently very interested in the explanation.

*reflexmatically begins to brace for disappointment*vroom, vroom, lookit that NT go!

haha. Relax, Ape- I mean it: no mean tricks. No right or wrong, it may just be a personal impression. But now I think I was wrong to move you.

:wub:

[CoHo]

No, don't think any of those guys resemble each other much generally.


Except that CW is out there, you know, cause he's out there.

Fuck CorporateWhore (http://forums.intpcentral.com/showpost.php?p=368395&postcount=16)

[Vagabond]

Fuck CorporateWhore (http://forums.intpcentral.com/showpost.php?p=368395&postcount=16)
So, you like ham eh.

[Rhu]

Though the red strike through my name seems to be some sort of ill omen, I'm somehow pleased to not be pinned to any particular position.

[kwis]

It could also be a politeness/civility thing. Hustler is arrogant, MacGuffin is really cortious. I've been relegated because I just insulted a bunch of extroverts on another thread.


fuck i was going to say this. shai gar would be a new entry to the right of hustler.

[Hustler]

Frankly, I'm feeling a little crowded over here on my end of the line. I would really appreciate it if we could move Meshou to the left a little. Thanks.

[LuridLemur]

To me it seems the left side holds the more "real" types, and the right - the adopted or guarded personas. MacGuffin comes across as a guy you might know and be friends with. Hustler... who knows? What he shows online doesn't give away how he would appear and act if you met him on the street.

Which is why Meshou seems way out of place.

[s0978]

To me it seems the left side holds the more "real" types, and the right - the adopted or guarded personas. MacGuffin comes across as a guy you might know and be friends with. Hustler... who knows? What he shows online would obviously differ from how he would appear and act if you met him on the street.

Which is why Meshou seems way out of place.
This is not at all what I had in mind, but it is quite interesting. Hm...

And I was beginning to think Meshou is sort of out of place.


I also like dune_E's crackpot theory about the thread-holes and such. (Though maybe he has been smoking some ganja.) :D

[Hustler]

And I was beginning to think Meshou is sort of out of place.

Yes, yes. Scoot her on down toward mgbradsh.

[s0978]

Yes, yes. Scoot her on down toward mgbradsh.K, rev 2. That better?

http://www.intpcentral.com/uploads/goof4.jpg

[Hustler]

K, rev 2. That better?

Hell yeah, that's better. I totally get it now.

[LuridLemur]

Now I want to study the psychology behind how people make arrows.

[s0978]

Hell yeah, that's better. I totally get it now.meh, I'll wait to call your bluff tomorrow, so you can do your court jester thing when more are awake.

[s0978]

Now I want to study the psychology behind how people make arrows.I'm tipsy, usually my leaders are bee-yoo-tee-ful.

[spasmfrog]

It's penis size, isn't it?!?!

Now the real question is which end of the scale is small and which is large.. :devil:

[boppa]

K, rev 2. That better?

http://www.intpcentral.com/uploads/goof4.jpg Please add two more members, ideally one that is out of the box...Ta.

Edit: out of box = e.g. as per Corporate Whore...ta

[fripping]

my intuition says s0523 tried to vote in ApeTheDog in as president of the united states but accidentally voted for pat buchanan instead

[distraction tactics]

Interesting.. I don't rank people, but I do have a visual schematic of the internet that hasn't really changed over the past eight years.

Yahoo! was the first site I ever visited, was my first homepage, and it's kind of the solid, independent frame of reference. Other boxed sites are ones I currently frequent. I've listed some I rarely visit, but they still have a position in the grand scheme of things. Each new site gets assigned to some random area of distribution. Some sites on the drawing I haven't been to in like 6 years, but they're still there as a guide point for some reason.

[distraction tactics]

Also, when I was in grade two, my teacher read a bible story to the class each morning. Without any geographic idea of the events taking place, I substituted the setting of each story with a specific place on the hobby farm I grew up.

For example, Cain killing Abel takes place in a gully on a tractor road in between a horse pasture and a field. The Garden of Eden is physically around 30 yards from that point, on the edge of the pasture. The crucification is on a rise in the pasture, bordering a ravine. Joseph being tossed in a well is right nearby. Satan taunting Jesus in the wilderness is also nearby, but right at the top of a winding road to the lower fields.

No point in describing anything in detail, but to this day when reference is made to certain stories, my mind subconsciously returns to these visual placings of events. It's bizarre.

[ApeTheDog]

They're all people with a sense of humor, except possibly Raincrow007 - but why then was he taken out of the graph? The arrows pointing at Hustler are a joke. If they're not, then I have no idea how to interpret them. I can't really figure this one out.

I'm going with: openminded/close-minded - ranging from left to right, just to make one final guess. I'm curious as to what the answer is.

[Conan]

mgbradsh's placement throws so many theories off for me. And who's shum?

[Hustler]

You guys don't get it. It's not anything linear or simple like some concept we represent on some scale. s0523 has really outdone herself as the best poster with this one.

[ApeTheDog]

Yes, yes. We don't get it - you do, but you won't tell us what it is for some reason or the other. That's getting old, Hustler.

[melancholeric]

Well, I do get it, but I'm not telling.

[Hustler]

Yes, yes. We don't get it - you do, but you won't tell us what it is for some reason or the other. That's getting old, Hustler.

I would if I could, but I can't.

[charred_heart]

The way I see it, it could be about the scale of randomness of these members. Generally, Hustler very rarely jumps in with random remarks, while Joft and mgbrash are up there in the randomness sphere.

now CW, I don't know. He's random, but his randomness has a rythm to it. [/bullshit]

[ApeTheDog]

Oh, right. Wait. I know what is is as well, but I can't tell you because, em... my keyboard is broken.

[melancholeric]

It can't be randomness, because ... I'm not random at all, am I ?

[Hustler]

Oh, right. Wait. I know what is is as well, but I can't tell you because, em... my keyboard is broken.

I hope you appreciate it as much as I do.

[ApeTheDog]

I'd thought about that too - that this is all a joke to see how people respond. If it is randomness, though, she lied here:


Maybe. Somewhat. Really just experimenting. And I'm playing, but there's no "trap," heh.

Now that wouldn't be nice. And we all know s0523 is a nice person.

[ApeTheDog]

I hope you appreciate it as much as I do.

You are from Barcelona. You know nothing.

[s0978]

You guys don't get it. It's not anything linear or simple like some concept we represent on some scale.This sounds far more interesting than anything I could have had in mind.

Please, Hustler, show me why I had to highlight Hustler with all the special arrows.

[s0978]

You are from Barcelona. You know nothing.What's wrong with Barthalona?

[ApeTheDog]

It's a John Cleese thing.

[Hustler]

Please, Hustler, show me why I had to highlight Hustler with all the special arrows.

I'm not good enough with photoshop yet.

[attila_the_hunny]

I like it with NAPG on top of me.

[s0978]

Fuck CorporateWhore (http://forums.intpcentral.com/showpost.php?p=368395&postcount=16)
Well, this post was quite promising for my hypothesis... alas, I will check back later... yes, yes, perhaps give it more time.

[attila_the_hunny]

I think the picture is in the order of which members you want to fuck. :wub:

[mgb]

I think the picture is in the order of which members you want to fuck. :wub:

I think those threads would have been better with pictures.

[joft]

it's obviously a scale of cuteness to sexiness, with Hustler being in the extreme of cute

edit: but then the line wouldn't continue leftward past me, if it wasn't s0528's subjective and faulty evaluation

[charred_heart]

I think the picture is in the order of which members you want to fuck. :wub:I don't want to fuck Joft! :blink:

[attila_the_hunny]

I don't want to fuck Joft! :blink:

It's s0523's Order of Fuck list. And you're not on it. :p

[melancholeric]

But I am!

*feels special*

[Hustler]

It's s0523's Order of Fuck list. And you're not on it. :p

I hope you're right about that one.

[attila_the_hunny]

I hope you're right about that one.

Yeah, but you get sloppy 14ths.

[CoHo]

The scale itself doesn't have to represent anything because people will fill it with meaning.

What does it mean when someone is asterisked, that is to say, placed on the end of the list, the exact center or outside? They are visually-different and more people are likely to point them out.

What about in the not-so-distinct areas like off to one side, or sandwiched between other people? Those members might try to associate themselves with their counterparts or find abstract meaning in it.

The constant? The purpose seems to be how people react when given attention.


I hate you people

[attila_the_hunny]

I hate you people

:wub: I just got the warm fuzzies.

[mgb]

Yeah, but you get sloppy 14ths.

It obviously goes in the reverse direction. Silly.

[attila_the_hunny]

It obviously goes in the reverse direction. Silly.

Liar. She's his e-wife, he gets sex last. Which means you get it third to last.

[s0978]

erm... Well, this is awesome. I was so off, though, about Attila. God, she's hot.

Please imagine now that Attila is much further to the right, like say, much closer to Hustler. With some arrows.

[Ivy]

It obviously goes in the reverse direction. Silly.

Oh, no no no. I think it's obvious that Claverhouse is in the dead center on purpose-- so, it starts with him, and radiates outward in two directions, representing those she wants to fuck gently and with feeling, and those that get it quick and dirty.

[charred_heart]

It's s0523's Order of Fuck list. And you're not on it. :phaha then why would she be having so much trouble trying to figure it out? Unless it's because YOU are on the list!

[attila_the_hunny]

erm... Well, this is awesome. I was so off, though, about Attila. God, she's hot.

Please imagine now that Attila is much further to the right, like say, much closer to Hustler. With some arrows.


Top or bottom, first or last, I'll wait for my turn, baby. :smooch:

[LongSilence]

Maybe its signifies the order in which the people are likely to think they know what it means.

[mgb]

Maybe its signifies the order in which the people are likely to think they know what it means.How come you weren't on it?

[Hustler]

Top or bottom, first or last, I'll wait for my turn, baby. :smooch:

Dammit, shouldn't you be off devirginizing Imperator or something?

[melancholeric]

ok, s0364, enough of this, time to reveal the method to this madness. This is going a bit too far.

[s0978]

I hate you people
:wub: I just got the warm fuzzies.me too.

[mgb]

Dammit, shouldn't you be off devirginizing Imperator or something?

ahahahahaha. The Devirginizer Bunny.

[s0978]

ok, s0364, enough of this, time to reveal the method to this madness. This is going a bit too far.fuck you.

[LongSilence]

How come you weren't on it?

I'm a silent member. Or maybe it demonstrates who comes to mind when s0523 thinks of INTPc.


fuck you.

Wow, I know melancholeric got your name wrong but easy...

[mgb]

I'm a silent member. Or maybe it demonstrates who comes to mind when s0523 thinks of INTPc.



Wow, I know melancholeric got your name wrong but easy...

I wish.

[melancholeric]

fuck you.
I wish.

[s0978]

Wow, I know melancholeric got your name wrong but easy...okay :)

I had thought of you. Would you like Attila's old spot?

[LongSilence]

okay :)

I had thought of you. Would you like Attila's old spot?

Now that sounds like a hard hole to fill...

[mgb]

I wish.

Don't worry, you're on the list.

[melancholeric]

But the list is rather long and I'm not exactly the first one. But then I'm not the last, either.

Is it from left to right or right to left?

[ApeTheDog]

Maybe it's from top to bottom.

[mgb]

But the list is rather long and I'm not exactly the first one. But then I'm not the last, either.

Is it from left to right or right to left?

Right to left. At least I hope. I don't want attila's sloppy seconds.

[melancholeric]

Maybe it's from top to bottom.
She'd do CW first to sort of warm herself up for the group event?

[ApeTheDog]

Why else is he removed from the bottom line? Unless she wants him to watch, as in that 'being stoned at the salad bar and waiting for 3 hours' quote of his in Meshou's signature.

[Conan]

I solved it.

http://www.intpcentral.com/uploads/5568c017c5fedf6caf79ea6bffb64a47goof3.jpg

[melancholeric]

Freud would have a field day with that.

Hilarious.

[attila_the_hunny]

Esteban, are you saying NAPG and I are cocksuckers? If you are, it's probably true.

[booyalab]

the experiment's hypothesis: If I make a random chart, people will pull equally random explanations for it out of their asses because intuition has nothing to do with reality

[melancholeric]

Esteban, are you saying NAPG and I are cocksuckers? If you are, it's probably true.
I thought NAPG was more into handjobs.

[Conan]

Esteban, are you saying NAPG and I are cocksuckers? If you are, it's probably true.

I'm not, s0523 is. Are you saying INTPc man is gay?

(there are other uses for a mouth you know)

[attila_the_hunny]

I thought NAPG was more into handjobs.

No, she just needed some advice on giving them.

[attila_the_hunny]

I'm not, s0523 is. Are you saying INTPc man is gay?

(there are other uses for a mouth you know)

No, but NAPG and I are the lips of the body.

[LongSilence]

I thought you were the chin...

Now, is Claverhouse or Raincrow the right arm?

[Melody]

i recommend CorelDRAW Suite (http://www.corel.com). it is undisposable

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v259/tocca/ena/trident.gif

[attila_the_hunny]

I thought you were the chin...

Yes, I'm the balls holder and one of the lips.

[mgb]

I can't help but wonder how many people are joking and how many people are retarded.

[Google Monster]

Just assmue they are all one and not the other. Its much easier that way.

[LongSilence]

Fuck you, I'm not joking.

[mgb]

Fuck you, I'm not joking.

If you aren't joking, then you must be retarded. Thanks for clearing that up, I'll keep it under advisement.

[Google Monster]

Fuck you, I'm not joking.
Retard.

[digesthisickness]

i assumed he was just very very serious about wanting to fuck you

[mgb]

i assumed he was just very very serious about wanting to fuck you

That could be true. I'm not so sure I'm down with that, but to each their own right?

[digesthisickness]

That could be true. I'm not so sure I'm down with that, but to each their own right?

indeed, to each their own. for instance, i do not judge you for not being sure whether or not you are 'down with it'

[LongSilence]

One of us being down with it would make it awkward. Best if we're both just up for it.

[mgb]

indeed, to each their own. for instance, i do not judge you for not being sure whether or not you are 'down with it'

Who really likes to speak in definitives?

[digesthisickness]

Who really likes to speak in definitives?


people who are definite?

[mgb]

people who are definite?

I guess. But I don't have an overly high opinion of them since they leave so much room to be wrong so often.

[digesthisickness]

I guess. But I don't have an overly high opinion of them since they leave so much room to be wrong so often.

i don't think i even have to say anything to this. it stands so well on its own.

[mgb]

i don't think i even have to say anything to this. it stands so well on its own.

And notice the lack of definitives ;)

[digesthisickness]

And notice the lack of definitives ;)

haha, yes, i did! :smooch:

[ApeTheDog]

I solved it.

http://www.intpcentral.com/uploads/5568c017c5fedf6caf79ea6bffb64a47goof3.jpg

That's brilliant. I love it! You can be on my favourite posters list now.

[attila_the_hunny]

I can't help but wonder how many people are joking and how many people are retarded.

I sometimes wonder if I am joking or retarded. I can't come to a proper conclusion.

[s0978]

Maybe its signifies the order in which the people are likely to think they know what it means.That would've been great.

the experiment's hypothesis: If I make a random chart, people will pull equally random explanations for it out of their asses because intuition has nothing to do with realityThat would've been even better.


Damn, I should've consulted some of you people beforehand.

[s0978]

And totally, new respect to Esteban. Funny as shit, and not even totally off base.

It's all sort of exquisite corpse (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Exquisite_corpse).

[attila_the_hunny]

Well, I always knew CorporateWhore was a dick. I have proof now. It would have been cooler if Claverhouse was a tit.

[Architectonic]

The line doesn't necessarily have to end at MacGuffin though, does it?

I wonder where s0523 would be placed.....

[ApeTheDog]

That's because there's always potential for someone to be even less disgusting than MacGuffin. Note how the line does stop at Hustler's end.

[s0978]

That's because there's always potential for someone to be even less disgusting than MacGuffin. Note how the line does stop at Hustler's end.yes! Do you feel an "Aha!"?

[ApeTheDog]

If said "Aha!" can manifest itself as a smelly cloud of anal gas leakage, then I've been erlebnissing it all afternoon. Baby.

[CoHo]

Well, I always knew CorporateWhore was a dick. I have proof now. It would have been cooler if Claverhouse was a tit.

Two (http://forums.intpcentral.com/showpost.php?p=375767&postcount=128) Bodyparts (http://forums.intpcentral.com/showpost.php?p=360357&postcount=9) down, one to go! :banana:

[attila_the_hunny]

Two (http://forums.intpcentral.com/showpost.php?p=375767&postcount=128) Bodyparts (http://forums.intpcentral.com/showpost.php?p=360357&postcount=9) down, one to go! :banana:

But I :wub: dick.

[CoHo]

But I :wub: dick.

as I was reading this the dancing banana animation stopped and froze at http://www.intpcentral.com/uploads/banana.png

I think you gave it a heart attack!

[Madrigal]

This way makes it clearer for me.

MacGuffin
_________joft
shum
PrettyGal
attilathehunny
ApeTheDog


Raincrow007

Claverhouse


enigmacrypt

___________CorporateWhore

Melancholeric
mgbradsh

meshou

Hustler

[s0978]

This way makes it clearer for me.
I don't know what you're talking about, but I think you know what I'm talking about.

[Madrigal]

I got it, it's a transparency line.

All of the members wear masks and attempt to disguise their true selves. On the top you have the members whose masks are most transparent (whether or not they want it that way), and who are coincidentally more approachable, seemingly more laid back and easygoing.

The ones on the bottom have crafted more opaque and elaborate masks, and often confuse their audience or willingly subject themselves to misinterpretation. They're more acidic than the top members, and more confrontational.

Claverhouse divides both sides because of his straightforwardness. However, his reserved nature places him among the mask-wearers all the same. He leans a bit toward the more deliberate camp. He is just as fond of double meanings and hidden insinuations as he is absolute frankness. That's why you just don't know where to put him.

Corporate Whore (the gas mask fanatic, ahem) stands out because he's one of the most cryptic mask-wearers, seeming even too distant to be categorized.

Mac tops the "transparent mask wearers" camp because he's the most ironic representation of a mask-wearer (evil Vadar mask) whose mask can be easily seen through.

[attila_the_hunny]

All of the members wear masks and attempt to disguise their true selves. On the top you have the members whose masks are most transparent (whether or not they want it that way), and who are coincidentally more approachable, seemingly more laid back and easygoing.

Believe it or not, I am exactly like I am on the forum in person.

[Madrigal]

Believe it or not, I am exactly like I am on the forum in person.
And of course, nobody fools me because I can see through all of the masks. That's why I'm not on the list, you see, because I would scare all of you away with my mask-cracking vision.

[attila_the_hunny]

And of course, nobody fools me because I can see through all of the masks. That's why I'm not on the list, you see, because I would scare all of you away with my mask-cracking vision.

I've met some members, I could provide testimonies if I felt like it. :p

[Rhu]

And of course, nobody fools me because I can see through all of the masks. That's why I'm not on the list, you see, because I would scare all of you away with my mask-cracking vision.

Or maybe we know now the true purpose of the forest thread. I... I feel betrayed, Madrigal!

Hold me!

[attila_the_hunny]

Or maybe we know now the true purpose of the forest thread. I... I feel betrayed, Madrigal!

Hold me!

:hug: There there, don't cry, Precious.

[Madrigal]

Or maybe we know now the true purpose of the forest thread. I... I feel betrayed, Madrigal!

Hold me!
It's okay! (((((((((((((Rhu))))))))))))))

You don't have to be anybody else!

:D

[Rhu]

:hug: There there, don't cry, Precious.

Unsatisfactory. I expected more from you, attila.

[attila_the_hunny]

Unsatisfactory. I expected more from you, attila.

You just want my sexual services.

[Rhu]

You just want my sexual services.

N-not for myself, I'd nev--. It's... it's just f-for a f-f-friend.

[Conan]

I'm much better in person.

[attila_the_hunny]

I'm much better in person.

Is your trophy as big, too?

[Conan]

Bigger and beautifler.

[Madrigal]

I'm much better in person.
As in...?

[Conan]

Just ignore me, Im being retarded.

[LongSilence]

Or are you joking?

[CoHo]

Corporate Whore (the gas mask fanatic, ahem) stands out because he's one of the most cryptic mask-wearers, seeming even too distant to be categorized.


erhhhh.... I don't act all that different on here then in real life.

[mgb]

I got it, it's a transparency line.

All of the members wear masks and attempt to disguise their true selves. On the top you have the members whose masks are most transparent (whether or not they want it that way), and who are coincidentally more approachable, seemingly more laid back and easygoing.

The ones on the bottom have crafted more opaque and elaborate masks, and often confuse their audience or willingly subject themselves to misinterpretation. They're more acidic than the top members, and more confrontational.

Claverhouse divides both sides because of his straightforwardness. However, his reserved nature places him among the mask-wearers all the same. He leans a bit toward the more deliberate camp. He is just as fond of double meanings and hidden insinuations as he is absolute frankness. That's why you just don't know where to put him.

Corporate Whore (the gas mask fanatic, ahem) stands out because he's one of the most cryptic mask-wearers, seeming even too distant to be categorized.

Mac tops the "transparent mask wearers" camp because he's the most ironic representation of a mask-wearer (evil Vadar mask) whose mask can be easily seen through.

No it isn't.

Do you really think I still wear a mask?

[s0978]

Well, so we got some creative interpretations. I think there may have been more if people didn't get wary about tricks and stuff.

It was never meant to be that deep or anything. They're just all posters I think are exceptionally funny (and yes there are many others), but with senses of humor of various degrees of roughhousing. And true that it would be very subjective (what is funny and how), but the so-called "experiment" was kind of "do you think what I do, without my having to say."

I was being silly/ pretentious with the "some of us think in pictures," but there are some other thoughts (not deep thoughts, but related) regarding all of this which I still haven't brought to focus. A quasi-hypothesis of: if they are mentioned and they post, will they actually do what I purport the diagram to show, ie post according to their style of humor, creating an illustration of the diagram in another way.

Not so much, partly because the diagram was kind of crappy, and I kept revising, but then also I think maybe because I labeled it an experiment. People seem to get funny (not ha ha), self-conscious, when they know they're being "watched."

[Hustler]

erhhhh.... I don't act all that different on here then in real life.

Yeah, I don't think any of us are all that different here than in "real life." I am my eidolon's eidolon. And vice versa.

[Madrigal]

erhhhh.... I don't act all that different on here then in real life.
How would that deny the mask theory?


So you used to? :thelook:

lol

[melancholeric]

erhhhh.... I don't act all that different on here then in real life.
So uh ... you wear gasmasks pretty much all the time in real life too?

What does your wife think of it?

[bergenski]

It was never meant to be that deep or anything.
I got that intuitively.

[Kljoki]

Well, so we got some creative interpretations. I think there may have been more if people didn't get wary about tricks and stuff.

It was never meant to be that deep or anything. They're just all posters I think are exceptionally funny (and yes there are many others), but with senses of humor of various degrees of roughhousing. And true that it would be very subjective (what is funny and how), but the so-called "experiment" was kind of "do you think what I do, without my having to say."

I was being silly/ pretentious with the "some of us think in pictures," but there are some other thoughts (not deep thoughts, but related) regarding all of this which I still haven't brought to focus. A quasi-hypothesis of: if they are mentioned and they post, will they actually do what I purport the diagram to show, ie post according to their style of humor, creating an illustration of the diagram in another way.

Not so much, partly because the diagram was kind of crappy, and I kept revising, but then also I think maybe because I labeled it an experiment. People seem to get funny (not ha ha), self-conscious, when they know they're being "watched." So basically you were just looking for individuals that think exactly like you. Did you start with a preconceived results or?

[s0978]

So basically you were just looking for individuals that think exactly like you. Did you start with a preconceived results or?"or"

[Kljoki]

"or" So you were just interested in the results and did not envision possible outcomes, had expectations?

[s0978]

So you were just interested in the results and did not envision possible outcomes, had expectations?why are you still needling me?!


*kicks kljoki*

[Hustler]

why are you still needling me?!


*kicks kljoki*

I think he's upset he wasn't included on the graph.

[Kljoki]

I think he's upset he wasn't included on the graph. Actually, no I'm not. I don't even know her. I was intrigued by the fact that she called this an "intution" experiment. (When it clearly is not)

[Hustler]

Actually, no I'm not.

Yes you are.


I don't even know her. I was intrigued by the fact that she called this an "intution" experiment. (When it clearly is not)

If anything, this inability to understand what's going on is indicative of limited intuition on your part. Clearly. To intuitive people, anyway.

[Kljoki]

Yes you are. No I'm not. I'm not even directly interested in the list.


If anything, this inability to understand what's going on is indicative of limited intuition on your part. Clearly. To intuitive people, anyway. God, you're so full of it. She was clearly looking for like minded individuals. Any correlation with intuition was coincidental.

[Hustler]

No I'm not. I'm not even directly interested in the list.

Yes you are. You so are.


God, you're so full of it. She was clearly looking for like minded individuals. Any correlation with intuition was coincidental.

No you're full of it. Making up a bunch of shit just so you can feel better about being totally left out. Keep trying!

[Kljoki]

Yes you are. You so are.



No you're full of it. Making up a bunch of shit just so you can feel better about being totally left out. Keep trying!
You are delusional. Do you actually believe that? (If you'd like I can actually prove my stance)

[Madrigal]

So you were just interested in the results and did not envision possible outcomes, had expectations?
She may have been aware (vaguely or precisely) of what she was demonstrating with the list, but she asked us to use our intuition, our ability to see patterns and interpret implicit connections to figure out what made her place each of the members in that order. Is that not an intuition game for us?

[Hustler]

You are delusional. Do you actually believe that? (If you'd like I can actually prove my stance)

No, you are delusional. I don't want you to prove anything, because I don't like it when you post. I like it more when you don't post. Because I like to read stuff posted by intuitive people.

[Kljoki]

She may have been aware (vaguely or precisely) of what she was demonstrating with the list, but she asked us to use our intuition, our ability to see patterns and interpret implicit connections to figure out what made her place each of the members in that order. Is that not an intuition game for us? Like I said, all correlation to intuition was coincidental. You can't call a" guess what's in the bag" an intuition experiment.

[Kljoki]

No, you are delusional. I don't want you to prove anything, because I don't like it when you post. I like it more when you don't post. Because I like to read stuff posted by intuitive people. Then you should read my posts more often.

[Hustler]

You can't call a" guess what's in the bag" an intuition experiment.

Yes you can. Please, just be quiet. It's painfully obvious that you just don't know what you're talking about.

[Kljoki]

Yes you can. Please, just be quiet. It's painfully obvious that you just don't know what you're talking about. Rationalization and random guesses do not qualify as intuition (Here I do not mean intuition as "mystical knowledge", but as perception of the mind. Although you could use this approach, intuition would be meshed in there with reason, logic, feelings, bodily sensations and other things)

[Hustler]

Rationalization and random guesses do not qualify as intuition (Here I do not mean intuition as "mystical knowledge", but as perception of the mind. Although you could use this approach, intuition would be meshed in there with reason, logic, feelings, bodily sensations and other things)

You just don't understand. If your sense of intuition were a little more developed, perhaps I could try to explain it to you, but my intuition is telling me that it would just be a waste of time. So just go ahead and keep thinking concretely about what's in the bag or why you're not on s0523's list. It's the best you can muster.

[s0978]

why you little...

He/she/it has been needling me through PMs with silly questions to which I was responding ":mellow:". Finally I actually bothered to type out:

I think you're really kind of asking "how could your diagram have possibly been understood by anyone else."

And my answer is that even in this forum, I believe that non-explicit communication takes place all over the place. In fact there is so much information we exchange, it would be impossible to articulate even a tiny percentage of it. My diagram was a playful attempt to make an extremely gross measurement.

It is probably more mysterious to you because (I assume) you haven't followed me as a poster. Those that were close to the mark are people who know my personality better, though I didn't discuss anything about the "experiment" with them. There was also an inside joke about inside jokes operating, though I would have to think pretty hard about how to explain that. Not that I couldn't, but it would take extreme effort and a crapload of words, hence I conceive of that as related to intuition. I think of intuition as extremely condensed information.

I am happy to admit there is a crackpot element to all of this, and I am sane enough to realize that much of what I am inclined to think of "signal" is actually just "signified noise." Meaning we may ascribe meaning (haha) where none exists. To that end, an "experiment."

It's not so much who I am like, but who "gets" me, or at least "gets" my sense of humor. Who specifically does?- a lot of people on that diagram, to varying degrees. Not in any correlation of order to that diagram, and there are some I have not interacted with much on there, for good measure.

Make any sense, or does it still seem like I was expecting people to be psychic?And then it called me a Sensor, to which I replied "good, we have a conclusion." And then it kept at it, what do you think about that, oh, no response, never mind.

It is yipping again, and more and more loudly. Fine, why am I Si-Te. Go for it.

[Kljoki]

This has nothing to do with you. Hustler accused me so I responded.

Yes, I think you may be Si - Te. (And if you wanted me to stop, why didn't you just say so? One "fuck off" would've been more then enough to send me away)

[CoHo]

hahaha, now I get it!

[Madrigal]

*gets flashbacks and a migraine*

[s0978]

Yes, I think you may be Si - Te. (And if you wanted me to stop, why didn't you just say so? One "fuck off" would've been more then enough to send me away)
I don't want you to stop. I want you to "prove" your brilliant command of what intuition is- in the mbti or socionics sense, whichever you prefer.

My intuition tells me you play sneaky little games with others, and I'd be delighted for that to be exposed.

[Kljoki]

I don't want you to stop. I want you to "prove" your brilliant command of what intuition is- in the mbti or socionics sense, whichever you prefer.

My intuition tells me you play sneaky little games with others, and I'd be delighted for that to be exposed. Hold a second, I'll have to assemble first, I have it scattered all over the place. (And, no I am not buying time)

[Rhu]

Hold a second, I'll have to assemble ...

America Still Needs Your Help!

[mgb]

I HAVE INTUITION.

*claps*

[s0978]

*claps*
*claps too, nodding and laughing*

huh huh, duh, ME TOO

[Kljoki]

This thread has my thoughts on what intuition is it terms of typology (Among other things): - http://forums.intpcentral.com/showthread.php?t=10404

Quotes from this thread on intuition:


Dealing with information before we get it just deciding how we will acquire information. Here he states two distinct ways, acquiring information primarily over our senses and not acquiring information primarily over our senses (To be clear, those who do not gather information primarily over their senses, does not mean that they in fact *do not* gather information over their senses, just that they do not rely on it). The first kind acquires information thought their senses. The second tends to perceive that which is not there, time, ideas and so on. He calls these two ways "sensing" and "intuiting". But these names are misleading as the "intuitive" way hasn't got much to do with intuition at all. Intuition is basically just another sense (The 6-th sense). People who use intuition are sensing. A better description and more true to their true meaning of these two ways would be "perception of the body" and "perception of the mind". He calls this process of dealing with information before we get it an irrational process. Basically it's just perception.

[...]

Ok, now to explain the way they interact. All the information we will acquire first must be, well, acquired. How is decided by the first way. You might picture this as extracting ore. During the extraction part some gets distorted and some does not. That was the second part, dealing with information while we are getting it. Now this acquired information is basically raw ore. It needs to be processed. We do this by engaging the third process. Here again some of it gets distorted and some does not.

This process ca be summarized as INFORMATION → PICKING & ACQUIRING → PROCESSING & ACQUIRING → USING

[...]

He describes PICKING & ACQUIRING as:
...

Perception of the mind where the information gets distorted by the mind as introvert intuition.
My short understanding of what intution is:
Perception of the mind.

Unlike sensation, perception of the mind has no grounds in reality. Even though it is in reality it necessarily operates towards that which is not real. Like motives behind actions, future development of something, consequences and so on. What intuition does is operate in a "pointer" mode. Everything related to reality is not reality but merely a shadow, it only points to reality, is an image. Manipulation of these "images of reality" is how intuition manifests itself. Most basic example would be a "What if?" question.
Difference between Ni and Ne:

Well, let's say Ni and Ne are assembling a jigsaw puzzle. Ni forms pictures while Ne acquires parts.

Even though Ne may have all the parts it never looks at the picture. Cause it's looking at the specific parts, objective reality. It is always wondering what they form. Also because of it, it is always making connections. The picture is of secondary importance.

Ni forms a picture with the parts it has. Whether they fit or not. Often Ni makes a picture that resembles a failed genetics experiment because of it. It gets the parts and immediately makes a picture. The parts are of secondary importance.

So Ni always has answers (The picture or pictures) for everything with as little info (Or parts) it gets.

Ne always has a question or questions (Wonders about the picture) for as little info as it gets.

(I'm not sure about the differences. I need some serious feedback from actual Ne an Ni types to verify this)

And a simplistic, undeveloped idea I had recently regarding functions:
With Se that's easy and simple. Reality is what it is. But they get called shallow cause of it.
With Si it's complex and beautiful.
With Ne it's endless. Reality is boundless.
With Ni there is no reality. What is isn't and what isn't is. Unlike Ne, there is no such thing as an object. I picture it like this:

Se is looking at reality from reality

| REALITY |→ | REALITY |

Si is looking at reality from outside of reality.

NOT REALITY → | REALITY |

Ne is looking outside of reality from reality

| REALITY | → NOT REALITY

Ni is looking outside of reality from outside of reality.

NOT REALITY → NOT REALITY

[mgb]

If you had intuition, like you say, you would have known that none of us are going to read that.

[Rhu]

If you had intuition, like you say, you would have known that none of us are going to read that.

i read it

[mgb]

i read it

You have to. You're a superhero.

[Rhu]

You have to. You're a superhero.

Thank God. And God's chosen enforcer of peace!

Re: Kljoki

My short understanding of what intution is:

Perception of the mind.

Unlike sensation, perception of the mind has no grounds in reality. Even though it is in reality it necessarily operates towards that which is not real. Like motives behind actions, future development of something, consequences and so on. What intuition does is operate in a "pointer" mode. Everything related to reality is not reality but merely a shadow, it only points to reality, is an image. Manipulation of these "images of reality" is how intuition manifests itself. Most basic example would be a "What if?" question.

How is the nature of this exercise different than what is described in the quoted paragraph, specifically the bolded text?

[Kljoki]

If you had intuition, like you say, you would have known that none of us are going to read that. This is not about you. Whether you will read it or not is irrelevant. It is merely important that it is there.

[mgb]

Re: Kljoki

[/indent]How is the nature of this exercise different than the quoted paragraph, specifically the bolded text?

Because if it were true, Kljoki would be extremely embarrassed, you know, having someone in tights showing him up and all.

[Kljoki]

Thank God. And God's chosen enforcer of peace!

Re: Kljoki

[/indent]How is the nature of this exercise different than what is described in the quoted paragraph, specifically the bolded text? It isn't. I never claimed this has no intuition just that it cannot be considered an "intuition" experiment as there are other methods of coming to conclusions that are not intuition mashed in there. It's not a valid intuition experiment. It could on the other hand be described as an intuition demonstration. (Among other things)

[CoHo]

Thank God. And God's chosen enforcer of peace!
Hopefully this wont turn out like last time (http://i11.photobucket.com/albums/a188/CWhore/captainplanet.jpg)

[melancholeric]

You have to. You're a superhero.
I read it too. And I liked the jigsaw analogy.

[Rhu]

It isn't. I never claimed this has no intuition just that it cannot be considered an "intuition" experiment as there are other methods of coming to conclusions that are not intuition mashed in there. It's not a valid intuition experiment. It could on the other hand be described as an intuition demonstration. (Among other things)

The stated purpose of the thread:

I do not think I can put it into words, though. I wonder if my thought makes sense to anyone else here, and if so, whether anyone might be able to articulate what it is I might be thinking?

From this purpose taken with the tread title, it seems to be implicit that s0523 was challenging those who viewed the thread to attempt to intuit the purpose and goal of both the diagram and the thread itself. The fact that others posed solutions that could be arrived at with sensor functions, taken in that frame of understanding the experiment, doesn't seem to invalidate the thread. "It was s0523's experiment to see who could arrive at some sort of purpose," you could say, instead of the way I believe you have been reading it, "You should figure out what s0523 has done as a personal bit of experimentation with your intuition."

Thank you for clarifying and not backpedaling. It makes you a hero in my book!

[s0978]

I skimmed, even the original thread.

My question is: so what. You have decided to reinterpret Jung in some convoluted way contrary to Meyer Briggs. So you run around challenging people on this board about their type to get attention for your wacky theories? Nice.

Remember in post #5 of your original thread you said:

Also, I'm not sure of any of this. I just wrote my understanding of it. I have no idea if it is right or not.
I'll admit I'm not a Jung scholar, but it seems to me you're clearly wrong. Feel free to call me a Sensor as often as you like by the definitions you've made up. Not that I would have been offended, even before I realized these were homemade definitions you were utilizing, but I now know to dismiss your thoughts whenever you (mis)label others similarly.

[Kljoki]

From this purpose taken with the tread title, it seems to be implicit that s0523 was challenging those who viewed the thread to attempt to intuit the purpose and goal of both the diagram and the thread itself.
In which case it would merely be an attempt at observing intuition.


The fact that others posed solutions that could be arrived at with sensor functions, taken in that frame of understanding the experiment, doesn't seem to invalidate the thread. "It was s0523's experiment to see who could arrive at some sort of purpose," you could say, instead of the way I believe you have been reading it, "You should figure out what s0523 has done as a personal bit of experimentation with your intuition." Yes, you are completely right. The reason I use that understanding (The second one) is because the other method (The first one) is correlated to intuition only by accident. That way the purpose is to find those who can arrive at an answer (By all means). I realize that this is true and not the second option, but the implications of it are different and a lot of arguments become void.

In this option there is a motive for getting people to guess (Possible ones are personal amusement, search for similar people, search for understanding and so on), the diagram is the central object (Not intuition), peoples responses are taken into consideration only if they are correct regarding the structure of the diagram (the other ones are completely discarded). Method of coming to a conclusion is irrelevant as the central object is the diagram.

In your second option the motive is stated in the thread title, the rules in the first post (Here the diagram is a part of the rules of the game), responses are taken for their content which is analyzed as described in the OP and obviously the method influences results.

[Kljoki]

I skimmed, even the original thread.

My question is: so what. You have decided to reinterpret Jung in some convoluted way contrary to Meyer Briggs. So you run around challenging people on this board about their type to get attention for your wacky theories? Nice. That's called acquiring experience. Sure, I make a lot of mistakes, but I make them for the sole purpose of learning from them. The reason why I post every of my (Serious) threads. My hope is that if I do make a guess or a statement regarding someone's type or theory (Or something) people will give me feedback so I can learn what I got right, and what I got wrong.




I'll admit I'm not a Jung scholar, but it seems to me you're clearly wrong. Feel free to call me a Sensor as often as you like by the definitions you've made up. Not that I would have been offended, even before I realized these were homemade definitions you were utilizing, but I now know to dismiss your thoughts whenever you (mis)label others similarly.
No, don't ignore me, that way I'll be living in delusions and will not progress, learn. Instead, try offering me feedback.

[Hustler]

Sure, I make a lot of mistakes, but I make them for the sole purpose of learning from them.

Arguably the most arrogant statement ever.

[ApeTheDog]

Poor Rhu. He was taken off the list of funny people.

[Kljoki]

Arguably the most arrogant statement ever.
Actually, no, I seriously do. I have no problem with being PROVEN wrong. I enjoy it actually. (If anything it could be view as striving towards arrogance and not actual arrogance)

[ApeTheDog]

Stop wishing you were on the list, Kjolki.

[MacGuffin]

http://www.intpcentral.com/uploads/goof3.jpg

WHAT FRESH HELL IS THIS???

[Madrigal]

WHAT FRESH HELL IS THIS???
Querido! Hi! :)

[Google Monster]

This is much better.


http://www.intpcentral.com/uploads/goof40.jpg

[MasterMerk]

aw happppy

[mgb]

http://www.intpcentral.com/uploads/goof3.jpg

WHAT FRESH HELL IS THIS???

I think s0523 is calling you a pansy. I mean, relatively. I'm sure compared to a lot of people she thinks you are really tough though. Like Hypnos, whom you beat at basketball.

[MacGuffin]

Querido! Hi! :)
Hora de acostarse, amante.

Buenas noches.

[melancholeric]

http://www.intpcentral.com/uploads/goof3.jpg

WHAT FRESH HELL IS THIS???
It's like you have a telepathic connection to s0264, first you're gone for months and then whenever she makes any kind of reference to you you're bound to appear out of the blue and post something. Creepy.

I think she should do it more often.

[Madrigal]

Hora de acostarse, amante.

Buenas noches.
Wow, I almost got the wrong idea there! Best thing anyone's ever said to me here, anyway. Aww.

que sueñes con los angelitos

[s0978]

WHAT FRESH HELL IS THIS???
good morning, sleepy. It's about time you got up, you missed the action.

[s0978]

This is much better. ;)



edit: yes it is, but I wish you would change your avatar or something so that I wouldn't think of you as a darling child that says precocious things.

[pangolin]

Not really having any attributes mentally attached to those labels (names) they are just names arranged in some particular fashion, presumably a spectrum, but I could not guess what kind.

[Google Monster]

;)



edit: yes it is, but I wish you would change your avatar or something so that I wouldn't think of you as a darling child that says precocious things.
I will do as you wish and change my avatar.

[s0978]

I will do as you wish and change my avatar.
*fights impulse to pick up & squeeze G Monster*


okay, but don't blame me if I start mama bear-ing you, like I used to with joft.

[Google Monster]

*fights impulse to pick up & squeeze G Monster*


okay, but don't blame me if I start mama bear-ing you, like I used to with joft.
See thats the problem with many people these days, they always fight their natural impulses when what they really should be doing is give in to their urges.

I could use a mama bear, Some discipline and structure might do some good.

[s0978]

See thats the problem with many people these days, they always fight their natural impulses when what they really should be doing is give in to their urges.

I could use a mama bear, Some discipline and structure might do some good.haha, wrong mama bear for that. I actually completely agree about following impulses.

[Google Monster]

haha, wrong mama bear for that. I actually completely agree about following impulses.
Damn, I was looking forward to a spanking. But if you agree with me about impulses then why haven't you picked me up and squeezed me yet? Resistance if futile.

[s0978]

Damn, I was looking forward to a spanking. But if you agree with me about impulses then why haven't you picked me up and squeezed me yet? Resistance if futile.*thinks G Monster is so fucking cute she wants to eat him*




*eats him*

[Google Monster]

*thinks G Monster is so fucking cute she wants to eat him*




*eats him*
There are two ways I can read this. Hmm....

:o or 8O

[s0978]

There are two ways I can read this. Hmm....

:o or 8OIf it taste good, eat it.

[Google Monster]

If it taste good, eat it.
Exactly!

[MacGuffin]

I have it in confidence that the more left a poster is, the larger their penis is.

Women may substitute clitoris.

[s0978]

I have it in confidence that the more left a poster is, the larger their penis is.

Women may substitute clitoris.
shh! I told you not to say!

[C.J.Woolf]

I have it in confidence that the more left a poster is, the larger their penis is.

Women may substitute clitoris.
Questions:

1. Did ApeTheDog suffer shrinkage?

2. Did Rhu sell (or swap) his penis to joft?

3. Is CorporateWhore's penis not attached to his body (a la King Missile's "Detachable Penis")?

[raincrow007]

I have it in confidence that the more left a poster is, the larger their penis is.

Women may substitute clitoris.

Whoa, I'm better hung than Claverhouse.
:ph34r:

[Architectonic]

I have it in confidence that the more left a poster is, the larger their penis is.

I'm sure you've also noticed that this was the bottom of the list, since it ends with Hustler.......

[Rhu]

2. Did Rhu sell (or swap) his penis to joft?


More disturbing image: did s0523 cut off my penis to allow joft's monstrous member to be inserted in place of mine?

[MacGuffin]

PLACE-HOLDER FOR CLASSIC STATUS

[mgb]

Since this thread came up...

a) How did it get so dirty back then?

b) How would it look now?