Iran 'ignores UN nuclear deadline'

[imfrellinggay]

In brief; Iran defiant, Bush having a tissy, Blair still a moron.


Iran has resumed enriching uranium in defiance of a United Nations deadline, the UN's nuclear watchdog has said, paving the way for possible sanctions against the country.

A leaked report by the International Atomic Energy Agency (IAEA), said that Iran had resumed the enrichment despite an August 31 deadline imposed by the UN Security Council to halt such work or face sanctions.

The report also said the agency could not verify that Iran was not seeking to build nuclear weapons "because of lack of co-operation from Tehran".

George Bush, the US president, has warned Iran of "consequences" and said it was time for Iran "to make a choice".

"We will continue to work closely with our allies to find a diplomatic solution, but there must be consequences for Iran's defiance and we must not allow Iran to develop a nuclear weapon," he said.

However Mohammad Saeedi, deputy head of Iran's atomic energy agency, said there was "no legal reason" for Iran to be referred to the Security Council and that the report showed Iran's co-operation.

"It shows that the propaganda of the United States on the Iranian nuclear programme is completely without foundation and the result of the hallucinations of US officials," he said.

EU foreign policy chief Javier Solana is to meet European foreign ministers on Friday in Finland to try to decide on a response to Iran's refusal to suspend nuclear activities.

Full Article (http://english.aljazeera.net/NR/exeres/DCBFE945-8DD0-4E9E-B13A-33F9C51CA12B.htm)

What do you think Bush means by "consequences?"

[Nemesis]

It means if you're about to turn 18, move to Europe before you have to sign up for the draft.

[imfrellinggay]

It means if you're about to turn 18, move to Europe before you have to sign up for the draft.

*bites nails* :cry: I turned 18 last June. Shit...wheres my passport? Shit! It has an RFID! They can track me! I'm dead!

:wahmbulance:

[Nemesis]

That's it. I'm moving to Norway. They don't bother anyone, and no one bothers them.

[CEOofRawness]

In brief; Iran defiant, Bush having a tissy, Blair still a moron.



Full Article (http://english.aljazeera.net/NR/exeres/DCBFE945-8DD0-4E9E-B13A-33F9C51CA12B.htm)

What do you think Bush means by "consequences?"


Those consequences mean I'll be over in Iran any time now :sadbanana:

Hopefully the UN will be more forceful and take most of the weight.

If not, :banned:

[Mr. Bighead]

It's just another step toward WW3. At least I'm too old to get drafted in the first three rounds. If a bunch of you young whipper-snappers get killed, though, I might have to worry. When you get drafted, try and stay alive a while, ok?

Hell, with my age (29) and my bum knee, I've got a good chance of sitting this one out.

[CEOofRawness]

It's just another step toward WW3. At least I'm too old to get drafted in the first three rounds. If a bunch of you young whipper-snappers get killed, though, I might have to worry. When you get drafted, try and stay alive a while, ok?

Hell, with my age (29) and my bum knee, I've got a good chance of sitting this one out.

Lucky you. Woe is me, who signed up in a time of war and all I got was this lousy ribbon.

"And it's nuculer, dummy. The 'S' is silent."

[Ellipsis]

I live in canada and our military is non existant. And even if I ever get drafted I would probly have a greater chance of dieing from equipment malfunction or something along those lines rather then the accual fighting...So anyone trying to dodge the draft come up here we got Alberta Beef! Yumm!

[Dom]

I live in canada and our military is non existant. And even if I ever get drafted I would probly have a greater chance of dieing from equipment malfunction or something along those lines rather then the accual fighting...So anyone trying to dodge the draft come up here we got Alberta Beef! Yumm!

Dude do you know what happened to a lot of canadians in ww2? Go look up some pictures of the cliffs at Dieppe and imagine trying to storm them...

I'm too old to get conscripted... well not till they are very very deperate...

We will not take a ground based offensive in iran... we all over strechted...

[Ellipsis]

Dude do you know what happened to a lot of canadians in ww2? Go look up some pictures of the cliffs at Dieppe and imagine trying to storm them...

I'm too old to get conscripted... well not till they are very very deperate...

We will not take a ground based offensive in iran... we all over strechted...


Yeah, I know...but that was WW2...I was just sommenting on our current use of equipement that probly would not look out of place in WW2...our military sucks quite simply and I for one am proud of that! Ok, it has good soliders and peacekeepers but what I mean is that canada has no equipment...if they started dafting people they would have to give us bow and arrows....

[Dom]

Yeah, I know...but that was WW2...I was just sommenting on our current use of equipement that probly would not look out of place in WW2...our military sucks quite simply and I for one am proud of that! Ok, it has good soliders and peacekeepers but what I mean is that canada has no equipment...if they started dafting people they would have to give us bow and arrows....

Well I'm sure we can sell you some... prob got some lying about somewhere...

So hate for you to have to sit this one out....

[imfrellinggay]

I live in canada and our military is non existant. And even if I ever get drafted I would probly have a greater chance of dieing from equipment malfunction or something along those lines rather then the accual fighting...So anyone trying to dodge the draft come up here we got Alberta Beef! Yumm!

Lets play Trading Spaces: Draft Dodgers. I'll go up there; you come down here. I'll save some Stoli and ham for you.

[KuJo]

i dont think i would care that much. it wouldnt be what i wanted to do in life, but it doesnt really matter anyway. it would be interesting to see a totally new way of life. a new terrifiying look at reality thats shoved in you face.

[mancroft]

*bites nails* :cry: I turned 18 last June. Shit...wheres my passport? Shit! It has an RFID! They can track me! I'm dead!
:wahmbulance:

Pretend you're gay.

[mancroft]

Those consequences mean I'll be over in Iran any time now :sadbanana:


We'll pray for you. (Apart from the athiests, of course.)

[imfrellinggay]

Pretend you're gay.

You're an ass but when your right you right.

Just realized, also. I'm a manic depressive nutcase with eczema and (fabulous Prada) glasses.

Yay for not getting drafted.

[ApeTheDog]

the USA is profiting of the lack of decisiveness of the UN to act as a replacement force - profiting because they're very using it to push their own agenda. Something which the UN was deliberately set up to make certain couldn't happen. Which, ironically, is also why it's so incredibly hard to get it to commit to anything.

I think it's hypocrisy to disallow certain countries to use resources that are available to all. Atomic power is around - all countries and scientists can use it. Why should some not be able to? Because they don't have the same morals we do? Because they might abuse the power?

We do as well. I doubt anybody in Iran wants to see the world blown to pieces any more than we do. Let the problem sort itself out. This is all about control, but in the end it will have to end because you simply can't control the forces of nature. Information is free and available to all, and military might can only control so much. No amount of armour can compete when all it takes to take those out is a few scientists using resources available everywhere triggering the inherit force of some atoms. And that is theoretically very possible.

The next few hundred years will probably be a real test for our morality, because soon it will be very much within a lot of peoples reach to kill everything with impunity. We'll need to shape up our society to make that not happen.

[wranglertj]

What do you think Bush means by "consequences?"

For the moment, it means little more than having to endure his boundless, asinine rhetoric.

http://www.nytimes.com/2006/09/03/weekinreview/03basicA.html?_r=1&ref=weekinreview&oref=slogin

[Nemesis]

For the moment, it means little more than having to endure his boundless, asinine rhetoric.

http://www.nytimes.com/2006/09/03/weekinreview/03basicA.html?_r=1&ref=weekinreview&oref=slogin

Lol. I liked that article.

[Brad324]

If there was a war where they were in serious need of soldiers... I don't know about you, but I'd hate to be sitting on my ass at home while my friends are all out fighting for me. I'd definitely rather be drafted.

[imfrellinggay]

If there was a war where they were in serious need of soldiers... I don't know about you, but I'd hate to be sitting on my ass at home while my friends are all out fighting for me. I'd definitely rather be drafted.

Are you sure your INTP?

[Ymir]

I think it's hypocrisy to disallow certain countries to use resources that are available to all. Atomic power is around - all countries and scientists can use it. Why should some not be able to? Because they don't have the same morals we do? Because they might abuse the power?
Are you serious? We are talking about a country that has promised to wipe Israel of the map. It's better to deal with problems when the outcome is certain , rather than wait until we are forced to take action.


It means if you're about to turn 18, move to Europe before you have to sign up for the draft.

Why? There is no need for a draft. The US don't need to occupy Iran. All they have to do is take out Irans capability to produce nuclear weapons. The only reason for all the troops in Iraq is the foolish notion of nation building.

[mancroft]

Why? There is no need for a draft. The US don't need to occupy Iran. All they have to do is take out Irans capability to produce nuclear weapons.

And install a puppet democratic government.

[Ymir]

And install a puppet democratic government.
Does it matter?

[mancroft]

Does it matter?

Not really.

[messk]

About the Iran - Izrael problem, have you actually heard what iranian president Ahmadinejad thinks, or are you just buying what "fair and balanced" US news tells you?

Here is one of his speeches:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jbm5sMhbD3o

[Ymir]

You mean this fair and balanced resource?

http://english.aljazeera.net/NR/exeres/15E6BF77-6F91-46EE-A4B5-A3CE0E9957EA.htm

I would like to remind you I'm not american, I do not watch Fox news, I am capable of thinking for my self and making up my own mind. Let's not forget that neighbouring states has tried to destroy Israel several times. Do you really belive that Iran and the arab states would not destroy Israel if they got the chance?

[messk]

They don't like Israel, that's for sure. I just find it amusing that Bush attacks Iran and Ahmadinejad like they are the spawn of Satan, while at the same time has great relationship with Saudi Arabia. And human rights, democracy (haha), "freedom", and all else he so enjoy mentioning in his speeches are in WAY worst shape in SA then in Iran. Most of the terrorist in AL Qaeda are Saudi Arabian.

It's all about money, and not human rights or democracy or terrorism. While Saudi Arabia sales oil to USA, and buys USA weapons, they will be best friends. While at the same time, USA doesn't have economic influence in Iran, while Russia, China and the EU has. So by making Iran a victim of sanctions, he effectively takes alot of money from his global competitors (Russia, EU, China), and destroys the one country that resist USA cultural and economic influence. And people say Bush is dumb.

P.S.
Even if Iran gets nuclear weapons, they won't use it, just like any other country won't use it. Half the world has nuclear weapons, even more have biological and chemical and you don't see Bush attacking them do you?
Also, Iran will never enter open warfare with Israel, that would be dumb. The worst they can do is supply Hezzbolah with conventional weapons (and they probably do already)...

[ApeTheDog]

Are you serious? We are talking about a country that has promised to wipe Israel of the map. It's better to deal with problems when the outcome is certain , rather than wait until we are forced to take action.

Yes, I'm serious. I don't think they would nuke Israel. I don't think anybody wants to start a nuclear war. And if they do... so be it. Better to get it done with.

[relaxo]

Iran doesn't need to start a nuclear war if it has nukes. It just has to make it's demands, and the world must obey or they will use their nukes. Their demands will be reasonable. All moslems in non moslem lands must be allowed to practice sharia law. Why not? Sounds reasonable. Who are we to tell another "culture" on our lands they must follow our laws? Then it will be, moslems must have proportional representation. Sounds reasonable. More reasonable then watching a nuke fall somewhere. They'll make demands on israel. The demands will keep coming and coming until one day when you are 80 years old you'll see western civilization has been replaced by islamic civilization.

The real danger is Iran won't hesitate to give nuclear material to terrorist groups.

The solution is easy. Bomb the shit out of Iran's current government and military. It's not hard to do for the USA. The USA isn't over stretched by any imagination, despite what you wish. During the bombing you arm minority groups in Iran with weapons. Let the country fall into civil war. Mop up what you can. Maps wil be redrawn.