rainfall
12 Sep 2006, 11:51 AM
Ever since last dentists appointment, I cannot sleep as my tooth and in turn my neck and also my head hurts. Here I am: in pain,sleepless and alone in a room with no one to console me. And now this, reminding me about sept 11, how could you all?
In any case, all of you have wrought your own undoing, so let me begin to open that pus filled abscess that is my head. However, I must first make sure that only people who can stand the stench will be subjected to such mistreatment, which I will do right now.
DISCLAIMER:
If you are easily offended, if you are a strong feeler, if your relatives or friends or someone you know have died in terrorist act of 9/11 or if you are extremely patriotic I strongly urge you not to read this post past the disclaimer as you might find the arguments below injurious to you. If statements in this thread have hurt your feelings or have stirred you into anger, and you feel that you must absolutely post, I only ask that you do so with a cool head - chill out, have a smoke, come back cool headed and then post.
/end of disclaimer.
Now, as I am obviously a deranged lunatic, I only ask that you share any factual data that opposes the views stated below. With that said, let us begin:
Events as I see them :
(1)American citizens vote for a president, whoever he was in the times russians (U.S.S.R at the time) had the war with afganistan. I'm not big at recent history or politics and I am sure one of you nice folks will be able to fill me in on the details
(2)That president oversees policies; such as policies that govern CIA.
(3)CIA guided by the policies recruits, funds, supplies with weapons and teaches terrorists to aid afganistan in its fight against U.S.S.R ; this is beneficial to the US as it is in cold war with U.S.S.R.
(4)One of the terrorists namely osama bin laden is trained, funded and organised by CIA who follows policies installed by president who was elected by citizens who voted for that president.
(5)Cold war ends; U.S.S.R loses afgan war but the terrorists remain - now well trained and funded, with connections.
(6)Terrorists organised and led by bin laden crash two planes into twin towers.
/end the chain of events.
Statements :
A.) American citizens are in part responsible for the terrorist act of 9/11.
Reasons for this : They have elected a man who is responsible for foreign policies - and who's policies were to use terrorism; after it was found out that the man they elected used terrorism and in fact was the reason so many people died on september 11 there were no cries of outrage nor do I remember anyone moving to canada ( Please give me any evidence to contrary, I would be greatly thankful); the money they payed as taxes went into assault rifles, bombs and training for terrorists.
B.) American citizens passively encourage terrorism in the world : after it was publicly declared that CIA trained terrorists (I believe it was on BBC, anyone have a link?) there were no civilian protests against such policies or picket lines encouraging to put people responsible for training bin laden behind bars (that is CIA agents/people responsible on the US soil) nor have there been urges to change any policies so that it would not be possible to train terrorists for CIA or any other USA agency( At least I've never seen any; I would greatly appreciate it if someone has any evidence to contrary); untill people either do something to make sure that USA is incapable of training terrorists again or untill they immigrate to another country to make sure that the money they pay on taxes are not used to fund and arm and train terrorists I believe it is fairly right to say that it would be hypocritical for any american to say that america is at war with terrorism.
C.) Across many heated arguments another point has emerged - and that is that terrorism can be justified. I don't believe that and I think that no matter what was the situation it is still an ultimate evil to strike out against the innocent and defenceless for which I will give an example of america using terrorists tactics. In world war 2 america has destroyed two japan cities namely hiroshima and nagasaki in what was the biggest terrorist act in history of humankind. The death toll after the bombings consisted mainly of civilians (that's right: children, elderly, women and unarmed men) and is estimated at 214,000 people. There might be some people will argue that the bombings have stopped more casualties but that is rather hypocritical. I don't see how turning 214,000 civilians into ashes helps prevent human casualties. It seems more like trying to fight fire with fire.
In any case, all of you have wrought your own undoing, so let me begin to open that pus filled abscess that is my head. However, I must first make sure that only people who can stand the stench will be subjected to such mistreatment, which I will do right now.
DISCLAIMER:
If you are easily offended, if you are a strong feeler, if your relatives or friends or someone you know have died in terrorist act of 9/11 or if you are extremely patriotic I strongly urge you not to read this post past the disclaimer as you might find the arguments below injurious to you. If statements in this thread have hurt your feelings or have stirred you into anger, and you feel that you must absolutely post, I only ask that you do so with a cool head - chill out, have a smoke, come back cool headed and then post.
/end of disclaimer.
Now, as I am obviously a deranged lunatic, I only ask that you share any factual data that opposes the views stated below. With that said, let us begin:
Events as I see them :
(1)American citizens vote for a president, whoever he was in the times russians (U.S.S.R at the time) had the war with afganistan. I'm not big at recent history or politics and I am sure one of you nice folks will be able to fill me in on the details
(2)That president oversees policies; such as policies that govern CIA.
(3)CIA guided by the policies recruits, funds, supplies with weapons and teaches terrorists to aid afganistan in its fight against U.S.S.R ; this is beneficial to the US as it is in cold war with U.S.S.R.
(4)One of the terrorists namely osama bin laden is trained, funded and organised by CIA who follows policies installed by president who was elected by citizens who voted for that president.
(5)Cold war ends; U.S.S.R loses afgan war but the terrorists remain - now well trained and funded, with connections.
(6)Terrorists organised and led by bin laden crash two planes into twin towers.
/end the chain of events.
Statements :
A.) American citizens are in part responsible for the terrorist act of 9/11.
Reasons for this : They have elected a man who is responsible for foreign policies - and who's policies were to use terrorism; after it was found out that the man they elected used terrorism and in fact was the reason so many people died on september 11 there were no cries of outrage nor do I remember anyone moving to canada ( Please give me any evidence to contrary, I would be greatly thankful); the money they payed as taxes went into assault rifles, bombs and training for terrorists.
B.) American citizens passively encourage terrorism in the world : after it was publicly declared that CIA trained terrorists (I believe it was on BBC, anyone have a link?) there were no civilian protests against such policies or picket lines encouraging to put people responsible for training bin laden behind bars (that is CIA agents/people responsible on the US soil) nor have there been urges to change any policies so that it would not be possible to train terrorists for CIA or any other USA agency( At least I've never seen any; I would greatly appreciate it if someone has any evidence to contrary); untill people either do something to make sure that USA is incapable of training terrorists again or untill they immigrate to another country to make sure that the money they pay on taxes are not used to fund and arm and train terrorists I believe it is fairly right to say that it would be hypocritical for any american to say that america is at war with terrorism.
C.) Across many heated arguments another point has emerged - and that is that terrorism can be justified. I don't believe that and I think that no matter what was the situation it is still an ultimate evil to strike out against the innocent and defenceless for which I will give an example of america using terrorists tactics. In world war 2 america has destroyed two japan cities namely hiroshima and nagasaki in what was the biggest terrorist act in history of humankind. The death toll after the bombings consisted mainly of civilians (that's right: children, elderly, women and unarmed men) and is estimated at 214,000 people. There might be some people will argue that the bombings have stopped more casualties but that is rather hypocritical. I don't see how turning 214,000 civilians into ashes helps prevent human casualties. It seems more like trying to fight fire with fire.