ET/IT

[Superior]

Hello, can someone explain me the difference between Extraverted Thinking and Introverted Thinking on a few examples?

[tinribz]

No expert but I thought this was an easy one, ET = debate things with other people, IT = debate it with yourself.

[Huston]

Extraverted Thinking
To quote Jung, (from page 347 of Psychological Types)
"This type of man [He uses man because most occurrence seem to be men] elevates objective reality, or an objective orientated intellectual formula, into the ruling principle not only for himself but for his whole environment. By this formula good and evil are measured, and beauty and ugliness determined. Everything Agrees with this formula is right, everything that contradicts it is wrong."

He states that Darwin as an example of normal extraverted thinking. It should be noted that Jung goes on a lot longer on extraverted thinking, than he does with introverted thinking.

Introverted Thinking
To quote Jung, (from page 383 of Psychological Types)
"The introverted thinking type is characterized by the primacy of the kind of thinking I have just described. Like his extraverted counterpart, he is strongly influenced by ideas. though his ideas have their origin not in objective data but in his subjective foundation,. He will follow his ideas like the extravert, but in the reverse direction: inwards and not outwards. Intensity [critiques on knowledge, philosophy as it were] is his aim, not extensity [facts]. In these fundamental respects he differs quite unmistakably from his extraverted counterpart."

He states Kant as an example of normal introverted thinking. And even stronger constrast would be Cuvier and Nietzsche.

Jung, C.J. (1971). Psychological Types. Princeton University Press, Princeton, N.J.

[ptGatsby]

As Huston said... Ti and Te are difficult concepts to grasp. The easiest way I have to explain it is like this (I hate those explanations, they really don't give you much to grasp onto);

Ti - Is a decision making function that orders information and pieces it together. It builds a logical information structure from the raw data provided to it.

Te - Is a decision making function that creates order from the internal structure that already exists. It builds a logical creation from the information provided to it.

For example, Ti-Ne and Ti-Se are both logically structured system builders... one is more in tune with spatial problems (like mechanics), the other with information systems (like philosophy). Te-Ni is more geared about creating something from their own vision, as Te-Si is more geared along the lines of creating something from their past expierences (Te-Ni is normally about refining and creating, Te-Si is more about order and procedures... but anyway).

[fairgeek]

No expert but I thought this was an easy one, ET = debate things with other people, IT = debate it with yourself.

The difference:
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It from Addams Family

Extroverted thinkers are gregarious and socially involved, with loud voices. They are rarely shy or unwilling to speak up. Respond spontaneously.

Introverted thinkers are reserved, their voices can get loud, but only after being told to "speak up" a few times. They take more time to respond.

[Superior]

Fairgeek, I think you are ENTP.

["?"]

Based on Myers-Briggs book, "Gifts Differing"';

Introverted Thinking I_TP
? Is fed from subjective and unconscious roots - archetypes.
? Depends upon the abstract idea as the decisive factor, and values facts chiefly as illustrative proofs of the idea.
? Relies on the thinker's powers of observation and appreciation and use of the inner wealth of inherited experience for soundness and value.
? Has as its goal formulating questions, creating theories, opening up of prospects, yielding insight, and finally, seeing how external facts fit into the framework of the idea or theory it has created.
? Seizes upon the similarities of the concrete case, dismissing irrelevancies.
? Has a tendency to neglect facts or to coerce them into agreement with the idea, selecting only those which support the idea.
? Consists of an inner thought activity, tied loosely if at all to the stream of sense impressions, which are dimmed by the vividness of the stream of inner impressions.


Extraverted Thinking E_TJ
? Is fed from objective data - facts and borrowed ideas.
? Depends upon the facts of experience and regards the abstract idea as unsubstantial and of negligible importance.
? Relies on the facts outside of the thinker, which are more decisive than the thinking itself, for soundness and value.
? Has as its goal the solution of practical problems, discovery and classification of facts, criticism and modification of generally accepted ideas, planning or programs, and developing of formulas.
? Dwells upon the details of the concrete case, including irrelevancies.
? Has a tendency to multiply facts until their meaning is smothered and thinking paralyzed.
? Consists of a succession of concrete representations that are set in motion not so much by an inner thought activity as by the changing stream of sense perceptions.

[NightCrawler]

I always debate topics with myself more than others. I like to debate with people, though... it just means I spent more time thinking about it myself on my own time before I began to open my mouth to the other person.

[booyalab]

http://www.sharedpaths.com/myers-briggs/Ti.html
http://www.sharedpaths.com/myers-briggs/Te.html

Thinking is "an organizing and evaluating process (JUDGING)"

Ti-
'Analyzing and Deciphering
Use Definitions and Factual Principles'


Te-
'Organizing by Logic and Criteria
Follow Charts, Plans, Timelines'

[ieny77]

Extroverted thinking is about worldly things and ideas - objective, analytical. Introverted thinking is about one's own ideas - subjective, creative.

Extroverted thinking starts with the whole and looks to particulars. A book about logic gave the search for a fugitive in a building as an example of analytical thoroughness. The search begins by obtaining a blueprint of the building. Starting from the top of the building and moving down, the police would search every room while checking off each room after it has been searched. Another example comes from a comment in this forum by an extrovert about MBTI, "I use it primarily as a tool for self-understanding. For finding out why my personal weaknesses are what they are and how to work on them, why I do or don't get along with certain types of people, what it is about some people that I'm inclined to perceive as annoying, why that is, and how I can learn to cooperate with them anyway, and the like..." Being an introverted thinker it struck me as novel even strange. The subjectivity is minimal. It's as objective as an analytical tool for determining financial health. These are not open-ended questions. It's conceptually, structurally limited to MBTI, i.e. this person could have added, "...within the framework of MBTI."

Introverted thinking for the INTP starts with particulars and seeks to create a whole. The particulars come from extroverted intuition. That a brick placed under the wheel of a car will stop it from rolling is a simple extroverted intuition, seemingly appearing out of nowhere (but obviously the result of an unconscious analogy). The creative process uses logic but because it's building blocks are intuitions the result is subjective in its commonly understood meaning - no one else has these views. An example is the well known story about the blindfolded wise men who touch different parts of the elephant and guess that the elephant is anything but an elephant, touch the legs it must be a tree, touch the ears it must be a fan, etc. Introverted thinking would take each of the wise men's conclusions (intuitions) and attempt to logically reconcile them with each other. This is why INTPs spot discrepancies so easily. I think protagonists in detective novels are introverted thinkers.

[venerationOFrabbits]

One way is to imagine yourself backing way the hell up, and seeing everything from that distance.

That would be Te.