What's your preferred political group anywhere in the world today?

[LongSilence]

Basically, we all have visions for how the world should be. So, who are the guys who we think might be most likely to achieve it for us (at least in some small part of the globe)?

And links would be nice.

[slacker]

The Pirate Party... coming soon to a Patent Office near you.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pirate_Party

[Krill]

The Pirate Party... coming soon to a Patent Office near you.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pirate_Party

O' double standard, how beautiful is thine irony.

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So, who are the guys who we think might be most likely to achieve it for us

No one.

[Architectonic]

O' double standard, how beautiful is thine irony.

Why is it a double standard?

[Krill]

Why is it a double standard?


The agenda also includes support for a strengthening of the right to privacy (such as private property and private information)

Of course, this doesn't apply to the media they want to pirate. That's not private, the moment you make that song it becomes theirs.

Either that or the Pirate Party is in opposition to Pirating, in which case irony is still present.

[Nemesis]

No one.
*high-five*

The only one that even comes close, for me, is the Libertarian party. I only just registered to vote, and I listed myself as a Democrat, specifically so I can vote in the primaries.

The election this year is a complete waste, however. Menendez and Kean both suck terribly.

[Krill]

*high-five*

The only one that even comes close, for me, is the Libertarian party. I only just registered to vote, and I listed myself as a Democrat, specifically so I can vote in the primaries.

The election this year is a complete waste, however. Menendez and Kean both suck terribly.

*grin* I'll be registering Independent just so I can lure people into political discussions without scaring them off (I won't have to mention the dirty C word).

That said, I put major emphasis in the quote (the emphasis was mine) on who I think would do it for us, which I think is a rather silly ineffective attitude to take. Letting people do things for you is just asking for disaster/failure.

[Architectonic]

Of course, this doesn't apply to the media they want to pirate. That's not private, the moment you make that song it becomes theirs.

I suppose it is too much to expect you to understand the concept of context.

Firstly physical private property and intellectual property are somewhat different. Both are an economic issue. Physical property is inherently scarce whereas intellectual property is not quite so limited. Some economists reason that intellectual property laws impose a significant cost on society and actually restrict innovations.
So it is reasonable that a coherent political system must have a set of laws regulating the ownership of physical property, but similar laws are not necessary for intellectual property.

Privacy is a separate issue and mostly involves possession of information about the individual. This is more of a civil issue than an economic issue. But it is unlikely that total privacy is possible. So the Pirate Party would only wish to maintain some significant level of Privacy (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Privacy).

[Krill]

I suppose it is too much to expect you to understand the concept of context.


No, I understand it. Ultimately it's still a double standard, whether you draw artificial lines about what sorts of property there are, or whether you cite "some economists" or not.

[LongSilence]

Krill, I thought about including a what kind of party would you like to be a part of question but I wanted to know if anyone is seriously enamoured with any particular party in the world.

As the the use of the wor "for", take it to mean "in the name of". Besides, letting people govern your country and enforce laws for you isn't that silly an attitude- its a matter of trust. That said I have a very low opinion of the effectiveness of politics. However, I don't believe that I, personally, could do things any better.

[dubbeltop]

Any party which is involved in the nudy business or the nature business. Links are scattered across the internet.

http://www.vatican.va/

[Architectonic]

No, I understand it. Ultimately it's still a double standard, whether you draw artificial lines about what sorts of property there are, or whether you cite "some economists" or not.

You still miss the point - all politics is the drawing of artificial lines. There are no inherent physical laws of the universe governing ownership of property, or against murder or whatever - so we have to create our own, based on practical reasoning.
So, by your logic there is always a potential double standard.

[Stoic]

Market socialism.

[ApeTheDog]

Those open source guys, probably.

[distraction tactics]

Nelson Mandela for prez.

[ApeTheDog]

Nelson Mandela is a terrorist.

[Nemesis]

Nelson Mandela is a terrorist.
I believe the choice of words adopted by the South African government was "Bantu trouble maker."

[Holly Martins]

http://img241.imageshack.us/img241/7572/nomaam2vz9.jpg

I felt a need to compensate for my blatant PC-ness in that gender/occupation thread.

[distraction tactics]

Nelson Mandela has street cred.

[Krill]

You still miss the point - all politics is the drawing of artificial lines. There are no inherent physical laws of the universe governing ownership of property, or against murder or whatever - so we have to create our own, based on practical reasoning.

This is where we differ. You believe all moral/legal law is arbitrary.

I do not.