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tragula
4 Dec 2004, 03:14 AM
I assume Yoda was an INTP. And as an INTP model I think he raises the serious question of whether we should try to be more like him? I mean from what I've read INTP and other types are supposed to find balance. Which seems to be another way of saying that INTP should try to be more E and make efforts to be social, more F and make an effort to relate emotionaly to the world, and more J and take more decisive action.
So what it boils down to is whether we should be trying to turn oursleves into E_FJ or whether we shoud specialize as lone wolf abstract thinkers??
I mean does Yoda have a Mrs. Yoda, little baby Yodas, and a morgage? Should he? Does Yoda believe in Carpe Diem?
This whole metaphor could be done with Arthurian myths too, Merlin, King Arthur, Lancelot, Guinevere, Galahad, Mordred etc. I think I like it better but I decided to be more pop culture! ;P
Chill
4 Dec 2004, 06:26 AM
I'm going to suggest the possiblity of Yoda being INFP. Remember how much Yoda talked about feeling the force, and how the force work in illogical ways. Course, I prefer him being INTP, he just simply figured out the system of feeling the force and moving big ass starships.
Oh I picked R2D2. He was the man errr droid. I always imagine him cussing like a sailor. Cause he could.
Sackanaka
4 Dec 2004, 06:41 AM
I know he's not INTP but I would want to be Boba Fett. And he's not on there :(
On a side note, perhaps R2D2 would be the "symbol of INTP". Being a droid, experiencing lots of things without being a blabbermouth like his golden counterpart, and relying on both experience and a whole lotta luck (there's no such thing as luck, just intuition ;P ) to survive ;)
libertarianjim
4 Dec 2004, 08:12 AM
Darth Vader. No personality reason. Just because he kicks ass.
Here's a question: Could Senator/Emperor Palpatine be an NT?
1) Strategic genius, seeing further than even the Jedi Council
2) Attempts to impose order over chaos
3) Hides true self (as Darth Sidious) from everyone else
People who know more about the Lucas Universe could probably add more or shoot these down entirely.
Chill
4 Dec 2004, 08:33 AM
i see the Emperor as an ENTJ. Seems right to me.
cloakable
4 Dec 2004, 02:47 PM
R2D2. Keeps it's mouth shut, when it's not making sarcastic remarks to the walking oscar. Has more gadgets than anyone else in Star Wars.
knome
4 Dec 2004, 08:07 PM
I picked Vader, mostly from my general preference for the villians in movies, but he wouldn't be my first choice. If any of you have read Timothy Zahns books in the series that Bantam released, I'd want to be Thrawn all the way. (of course being Boba Fett - not stupid prequel version - would rock too. then again, if you've read some of the books, we'd probably all just end up a lot of Dengars...). *hurm*. I mean, who would read star wars books. frickin nerds. :D *hurm*
Sackanaka
5 Dec 2004, 02:05 AM
Btw, is Hans the other half of the Hans & Franz duo from SNL? ;P
prometheusdestroyed
5 Dec 2004, 10:39 PM
Princess Leia beacause then I would find out what it was like to be a woman
Edmond Zedo
6 Dec 2004, 03:52 AM
Me? Obi-Wan Kenobi. I'm certain he's INTP. He's contemplative, patient, wise, unobtrusive, and laid-back.
Luke Skywalker: INFP
Chewbacca: ISTJ
Han Solo: ISTP
Lando Calrissian: ESTJ
Darth Vader: ENTJ
Not as certain about others. I'll have to study. But who's to say Fett isn't INTP? He isn't shown enough to make a decision, but his methods indicate great forethought and planning...A bit strategic and NT.
tragula
6 Dec 2004, 05:25 AM
I forgot about Obi Wan Kenobi... I suppose he does seem very INTPish. Although all these Jedi "warriors" may be a bit to action types to really be INTP. I suppose Yoda is a Jedi too.
I just saw Spiderman 2, Peter Parker seems incredibly INTP. Textbook, with his interest in Science and Photography and his inability to really get it together! Of course when he puts on his costume he is transformed into something else... Gains confidence and motivation to get out there and make the world a better place.
jimkopelli
6 Dec 2004, 05:42 AM
I do know Yoda has a sister... she's a few hundred years younger... which begs the question... what would a young Yoda look like? Newer wrinkles?
R2D2 for the same reasons listed.
Sackanaka
6 Dec 2004, 07:25 AM
I just saw Spiderman 2, Peter Parker seems incredibly INTP. Textbook, with his interest in Science and Photography and his inability to really get it together! Of course when he puts on his costume he is transformed into something else... Gains confidence and motivation to get out there and make the world a better place.
Hence my response in the "X-Men" thread, I'd rather be spiderman :p.
If you read the comics as well, you'll notice further evidence of INTP-ness. He even became a teacher at his old high school (in hopes of improving the conditions of modern youth) after finishing his job at the Daily Bugle. And that part about him experimenting with different personas for awhile to hide from hitment (he created 4 separate superhero identities, each with their own attitude, costume and power) that must've been a real blast! (and he dropped the act as soon as he could cuz he was getting tired of it ;))
I like Spiderman :D
Chill
6 Dec 2004, 12:25 PM
Han Solo: ISTP
You think Han Solo is a an I? Hmmm
Oh and I put Leia down as an ESTJ, or something very similiar.
cloakable
6 Dec 2004, 01:32 PM
Not as certain about others. I'll have to study. But who's to say Fett isn't INTP? He isn't shown enough to make a decision, but his methods indicate great forethought and planning...A bit strategic and NT.
Yeah, but he carries out his plans, which points to a J trait...
Hold, just googled a good answer for Fett - ISTP: "Assassin"
Hates people, and is good at killing them. Young ISTP's are good at killing pictures of people in video games.
http://www.geocities.com/lifexplore/humor.htm
crule81
6 Dec 2004, 10:05 PM
Han Solo because he could make Leia dress up in that Jabba slave-girl outfit. Darth Vader, on the other hand, got to have sex with Natalie Portman, but I'm sure that, despite the deep electronic voice, his balls get burned off in the lava in Episode III. Luke seems to be a bit too asexual for my taste. Yoda is too old to have sex and R2 can't. And I don't want to have sex with men, so that rules out Leia.
Edmond Zedo
6 Dec 2004, 10:37 PM
You think Han Solo is a an I? Hmmm
Yes. He doesn't play people, and does his own thing. Besides, he fits the complete ISTP package nicely.
Edmond Zedo
6 Dec 2004, 10:41 PM
Yeah, but he carries out his plans, which points to a J trait...
Hold, just googled a good answer for Fett - ISTP: "Assassin"
I don't care what you googled. He isn't shown doing or saying enough to make a judgment one way or the other. Only I and T are rather certain.
Chill
7 Dec 2004, 06:08 PM
I don't care what you googled. He isn't shown doing or saying enough to make a judgment one way or the other. Only I and T are rather certain.
Don't forget the EU. Boba Fett has a number of books about him.
ohnoaninfp
7 Dec 2004, 07:21 PM
I would want to be Princess Leia because she is pretty and she kicks ass!
Edmond Zedo
7 Dec 2004, 10:27 PM
Don't forget the EU. Boba Fett has a number of books about him.
I forgot nothing. I don't consider anything outside the movies to be part of the Star Wars story. I liked the Zahn books, even, but no matter.
Chill
7 Dec 2004, 11:57 PM
I forgot nothing. I don't consider anything outside the movies to be part of the Star Wars story. I liked the Zahn books, even, but no matter.
Why?
Edmond Zedo
8 Dec 2004, 12:18 AM
What if I wrote Hamlet II, in which Hamlet woke up because he was really just in a coma, and then I started telling people "You know, Hamlet didn't actually die. Haven't you read Hamlet II?"
That's the way I see it.
Warrior413
8 Dec 2004, 01:02 AM
I'd want to be Boba Fett... and he could be an INTP. I just remembered Dengar, yeah he was an interesting character. I chose Han Solo, he's a solid second.
hemanthraz
8 Dec 2004, 08:35 AM
Darth Vader !!
The villian is always the guy i want to be.
They get the money, the girls and the good life, with a little bit of S&M thrown in too.
Yeah, they die in the end, but who doesnt? at least they go out burning.Unlike the heros who are stuck with a female forever and ever turning into beanbags of posterity.
evil kitten
8 Dec 2004, 04:43 PM
Darth Vader. The world is mine!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! He's bad ass!
Chill
8 Dec 2004, 11:26 PM
What if I wrote Hamlet II, in which Hamlet woke up because he was really just in a coma, and then I started telling people "You know, Hamlet didn't actually die. Haven't you read Hamlet II?"
That's the way I see it.
That's not how the EU is like at all though. There are no 'oops this really didn't happen' in the EU (except for maybe Boba Fett surviving, but that was badass. If anyone could shoot his way out of the Sarlacc, Boba could). Star wars created a universe with a multitude of stories in it. Some stories lend themselves to universe creating, but others don't. Hamlet (and Shakespeare in general doesn't). Star Wars does. How about Lord of the Rings books. Do Simarillion and The Hobbit not occupy the Lord of the Rings history? Do the Illiad and Odyssey occupy two different timelines? And do their timelines not occupy the universe of Greek mythology?
Sackanaka
8 Dec 2004, 11:37 PM
This thread is having its own Star Wars.
Edmond Zedo
8 Dec 2004, 11:46 PM
That's not how the EU is like at all though. There are no 'oops this really didn't happen' in the EU (except for maybe Boba Fett surviving, but that was badass.
I hope you eventually realize how funny this is. That's EXACTLY like what I was talking about. You know, if anyone could survive a little poison, Hamlet could. He did! Check out Hamlet II.
Chill
9 Dec 2004, 12:12 AM
I hope you eventually realize how funny this is. That's EXACTLY like what I was talking about. You know, if anyone could survive a little poison, Hamlet could. He did! Check out Hamlet II.
One exception. Big deal. And it wasn't out of character, or break any plot. Whereas with Hamlet if he survived it would have invalidated the entire play. Boba Fett surviving doesn't invalidate the movies.
Slider
9 Dec 2004, 01:46 AM
Han Solo fer sure. He's the only one who has any fun, besides maybe chewbaca and r2d2 . . . and I don't wish to be either hairy or metal.
Shai Gar
8 Jan 2005, 02:17 AM
How about Lord of the Rings books. Do Simarillion and The Hobbit not occupy the Lord of the Rings history? Do the Illiad and Odyssey occupy two different timelines? And do their timelines not occupy the universe of Greek mythology?
you forget, tolkein wrote both the simarillion and the hobbit and the ord of the rings
and the illiad and the odyssey and that other book which traces the story of the refugee trojans who settle in italy and found the city of rome, were all written by the same author Homer
the EU was not written by lucas end of story. i to like the star wars books
matthew0028
9 Jan 2005, 09:11 AM
Personally, I feel that the books are fun to read, are generally consistent amongst themselves (a very important one for me), and add to the Star Wars universe in a positive way. In that light, I like to think of the expanded universe as being part of the Star Wars universe, at least as far as I need to be concerned. If J-Random person preferes the purity of the movies, or whatever, then... *shrug* Don't affect me at all.
Now the prequels on the other hand... :p :D
Oh yeah, and as far as characters go, I picked Luke, since... I dunno, cool Jedi powers, and seems like a good guy. As far as the EU goes, I'm quite fond of the characters Mara Jade and Corran Horn. Though I wouldn't want to have experienced any of their pasts. But they are cool characters, and with fun jedi abilities on top of it.
No... I'm not a Star Wars geek at all... :whistle: :nerd:
Biff_Loman
9 Jan 2005, 10:38 PM
I haven't read the books and am not interested in them.
Anyways, I understand that this thread is primarily concerned with which Star Wars character I would like to be. However, I find it much more interesting to add my two cents regarding the appropriate types for the various characters.
I have thought this through at length, which probably puts me in the running for most geeky board member. Ah well. I LOVED Star Wars as a kid, so I met as well run with this one.
Han Solo
Edmond thinks he's an introvert, but I don't see this at all. I would think that the type most appropriate for Han would be ESTP.
Han, to me, exemplifies what I understand to be extraverted sensing. He seems almost incapable of assessing risk. In Empire, he positively relishes the opportunity to charge into an asteroid field, despite C3PO's objections. "Never tell me the odds!" Ditto for his reckless attempt to search for Luke on Hoth.
This reminds me too much of the ESTPs I have known in real life, who seem to think it's boring to contemplate the consequences of their actions.
Edmond points out that Han doesn't "play" people. I'm not sure. I see Han as a natural trouble-shooter and negotiator, which matches usual ESTP profiles. The fact that the movies use his failures as comic relief does not mean that, given more advantageous circumstances, he could not perform as an excellent problem-solver and bargainer.
Leigha also describes him as a natural leader, a mantle I think few ISTPs would wear comfortably.
Luke
ISFP all the way, in my view. INFP almost seems right, until you consider his consistent doubts with respect to the Force - until he sees it in action. He really isn't interested in the mystical nature of the Force, and has little use for it beyond, well, moving things. The pattern of discovery with respect to the Force boils down to: "I don't think the Force can lift an X-wing out of the swamp. Whoa, I was wrong, it totally can."
He eschews what I see to be one of the hallmark traits of the INFP (based on INFPs I have known): depth of conscience. Luke is all about action. While he cares for his friends, he seems to have little capacity to evaluate the choices he makes in order to defend or support them. An INFP probably would have listened to Yoda when warned that he was not ready to abandon his training. For Luke, however, the need to ACT overwhelms the need to seek for truth or enlightenment.
Biff_Loman
9 Jan 2005, 10:58 PM
Leigha
I haven't put that much thought into Leigha. The suggestion that she might be an ESTJ makes a certain amount of sense, to me.
The fact that she could not be broken by the mind-probe certainly fits. From my experience of ESTJs, you'd need more than a mind-probe to get them to change their perspective. :lol:
I haven't used much analysis here; let's move on. . .
Yoda
Oh, INFP, almost without doubt. I'm willing to discuss this if someone disagrees, but I don't have much original input with respect to Yoda.
Obi-Wan
Here's our INTP, complete with over-confidence regarding his relationship with Anakin Skywalker and his inability to give Anakin enough moral leadership (I'm working entirely off the original trilogy, here. I'm not at all positive that the Obi-Wan character is consistent across the new and old films).
Is this not characteristic of the difference between an INFP's leadership and that of an INTP? Yoda would certainly never fail to emphasis the moral component of power. Power is useless, in Yoda's view, unless exercised with caution, restraint, and much soul-searching.
There's something about Obi-Wan that smacks of an INTPs amoral pursuit of knowledge and technical mastery. When Obi-Wan challenges Darth Vader and retorts that he is "Only a master of evil!" - well, it falls flat, to say the least. Yoda would most likely find something far more pithy to say; he might even find exactly the right words to penetrate to Vader's darthy heart. Obi-Wan is reduced to observing that he chooses a constructive path, while Darth Vader chooses a destructive one. Wow.
I am open to more discussion of Obi-Wan's potential INTPness, but instead of stating more of the character's obvious traits: Obi-Wan always gave me the impression that he could completely kick one's ass if he wanted to, but that he very rarely found a good reason. In the bar at Mos Eisley, he lops off that creature's arm with hardly a second thought. He's just generally too laid back, though, to be slicing and dicing everyone who pisses him off.
I really can't see Yoda being nearly so quick to hew the limbs off of space travellers, but I could see myself doing the same in Obi-Wan's position.
[edit] I'm assuming I, N, and P as givens, here.
Edmond Zedo
9 Jan 2005, 11:26 PM
Luke
ISFP all the way, in my view. INFP almost seems right, until you consider his consistent doubts with respect to the Force - until he sees it in action. He really isn't interested in the mystical nature of the Force, and has little use for it beyond, well, moving things. The pattern of discovery with respect to the Force boils down to: "I don't think the Force can lift an X-wing out of the swamp. Whoa, I was wrong, it totally can."
He eschews what I see to be one of the hallmark traits of the INFP (based on INFPs I have known): depth of conscience. Luke is all about action. While he cares for his friends, he seems to have little capacity to evaluate the choices he makes in order to defend or support them. An INFP probably would have listened to Yoda when warned that he was not ready to abandon his training. For Luke, however, the need to ACT overwhelms the need to seek for truth or enlightenment.
I still think Solo's ISTP, but more importantly, Luke is archetypical INFP, and I don't see how you could miss that unless you have no clue what it means to be one. Isolate S/N...He constantly lives in imagination, he's the opposite of Solo in observance of the Force, he shut off his targeting computer at Yavin, etc. etc. etc. etc. etc. And even Yoda said "Never your mind on where you were! What you were doing!"
Biff_Loman
9 Jan 2005, 11:34 PM
I still think Solo's ISTP, but more importantly, Luke is archetypical INFP, and I don't see how you could miss that unless you have no clue what it means to be one. Isolate S/N...He constantly lives in imagination, he's the opposite of Solo in observance of the Force, he shut off his targeting computer at Yavin, etc. etc. etc. etc. etc. And even Yoda said "Never your mind on where you were! What you were doing!"
Touche.
Also, your response brought to light an internal inconsistency in my take on the various characters. I envisioned Yoda, as the INFP, finding the right words to "reach" Vader. Well, Luke does so - and yet I have a hard time picturing an ISFP artisan claiming that he "sees the conflict" within Darth Vader. Yep, that's way, way NF.
Good on ya.
[edit] Well, I WILL say one thing in defense of my earlier conclusion. Luke seems a lot more action-oriented than INFPs I have known in reality, who seem to be natural procrastinators. I can much more easily see an INFP wallowing on Dagoba for a while, wondering if he should go help his friends or stay with Yoda, rather than mindlessly shouting "I can't just let them die!"
Yoda's comment, "If you honour what they fight for: yes" would have stopped my closest INFP friend cold.
Biff_Loman
9 Jan 2005, 11:59 PM
Hmm. . . And Luke as an ISFP probably would have just screwed over his uncle and enlisted, harvest or no harvest.
I've known one ISFP for a long time. If he really had his heart set on, uh, joining the Alliance, he'd probably answer any objections with "Huh."
"But I need you now, Luke, more than ever!"
"Huh. Interesting!" (leaves for spaceport)
Biff_Loman
10 Jan 2005, 12:13 AM
Edmond: regarding Han Solo. . .
I recognize that you are more knowledgable than I with respect to Jung's writings (I've barely scratched the surface). Perhaps I have made an error with my interpretation of the difference between introversion and extraversion.
Han seems to deliberately place himself in situations in which the exterior world energizes him. That's what I mean about taking unnecessary risks. I've always understood ISTPs to be more of the mechanics, who seem to take the approach "Let's see if I can figure out how this works." ESTPs have always seemed to be fundamental risk-takers who take the approach "Let's see if I can pull this off."
Not that ISTPs don't take risks, and huge ones (extreme sports!), but I've been under the impression that there is a close connection in their minds between perfecting a task and attempting it. I just can't see Han Solo doing the ISTP routine of endlessly practising a given skill to perfect it. I can picture an ISTP musician perfecting a given scale, spending hours in isolation, while I think Han would be happy to get drunk and sing karoake off-key.
It just strikes me that Han puts himself into too many situations in which he is forced to improvise, rather then demonstrating any kind of technical mastery (which is, after all, the domain of Ti). He seems to ask the world to demand more of him, which strikes me as totally E.
CreativeChaos
10 Jan 2005, 12:42 AM
Okay, I didn't vote in the poll because I'm an INFP, but I'd rather be Princess Leia, mostly, because she gets to kiss Hans Solo. :D
Edmond Zedo
10 Jan 2005, 01:57 AM
Edmond: regarding Han Solo. . ..
...Do we not wish the world demanded more of us?
I wouldn't say he's an extreme introvert by any means. Here are things to consider.
Types are more than the sum of the four scales, in practical terms. If you know ISTP, and ESTP, it makes typing easier than if you just know I and E.
Extroverts get their energy from interacting with people, and Introverts get theirs from thought or action separate from others. I/E revolves around social interaction.
Risk taking is not directly related to extroversion. This and strong mechanical aptitude are characteristic of ISTPs. The introverted SPs tend toward this mech. skill, craftsmanship, or artistry, and extroverted SPs tend toward skill relating to social interaction.
In context, compare Solo and Calrissian, an obvious E.
CreativeChaos
10 Jan 2005, 03:11 AM
Gee! Do you guys *really* think the creators of these characters are thinking MBTI while writing? Fictional characters are just a conglomerate of whatever makes the story sell.
Hans Solo is an ISTP. (A lone wolf, the actor is actually an ISTP, too.)
Luke Skywalker is an ENFP.
Princess Layuh is a total conglomerate mess. Her character is all over the place.
There's not enough to go on for any of the other characters. The movie itself is *very* NF. NFs love the "just go with your feelings, Luke", and the "dark side of the force"(this has special appeal to INFPs) and finding "meaning" in life by fighting the "dark" side.
daughterofeve
10 Jan 2005, 03:56 AM
i can't vote.. I've never seen any of the movies
Edmond Zedo
10 Jan 2005, 04:08 AM
Gee! Do you guys *really* think the creators of these characters are thinking MBTI while writing? Fictional characters are just a conglomerate of whatever makes the story sell.
Gaaaaaa. No, I'm sure it's very rare that types are written into characters consciously. One of the signature traits of good literature, a category in which I'll include storytelling on film, is using realistic characters. A perfectly realistic character will have a type, but perfection is so rare, isn't it?
Skywalker is no extrovert. In fact, he's INFP. Have I said that already?
matthew0028
10 Jan 2005, 04:37 AM
I just can't see Han Solo doing the ISTP routine of endlessly practising a given skill to perfect it. I can picture an ISTP musician perfecting a given scale, spending hours in isolation, while I think Han would be happy to get drunk and sing karoake off-key.
It just strikes me that Han puts himself into too many situations in which he is forced to improvise, rather then demonstrating any kind of technical mastery (which is, after all, the domain of Ti). He seems to ask the world to demand more of him, which strikes me as totally E.
While I have very little knowledge of the type system, so I can't really do more than guess at this sort of thing, one thing to note that if nothing else, Han is an exceptional pilot. Even discounting the EU, his ability to (apparently easily) survive flying in an asteroid belt, while avoiding pursuit from TIE fighters, screams that he really really knows what he's doing in a ship.
Now, I'd wager a lot of that has to do with natural ability. However, I doubt Han would've gotten to the level of skill he is without spending a hell of a lot of time perfecting it. Just something to consider.
CreativeChaos
10 Jan 2005, 05:22 AM
Originally posted by Edmond Zedo:
Gaaaaaa. No, I'm sure it's very rare that types are written into characters consciously. One of the signature traits of good literature, a category in which I'll include storytelling on film, is using realistic characters. A perfectly realistic character will have a type, but perfection is so rare, isn't it?
Yeah! Good literature and films use realistic characters and stick to a type. But they don't and didn't in this film with Lea. She was "formless" as a character. The other characters were minor as to not having enough info for an analysis.
Skywalker is no extrovert. In fact, he's INFP. Have I said that already?
So what if you've said he's an INFP! ;P
On second thought,(now that I'm actually giving it some) he was portrayed as being rather shy. However he is also an excellent pilot, was shown as having his "head under the hood", fixing robots, and flying machines, knowing a lot about mechanics. I say he's a "hands on" person, and that makes him an ISFP. *That* is my final conclusion on the matter. :cool: (Gee!, I'm just so good at this stuff, I amaze myself sometimes! ;) )
Edmond Zedo
10 Jan 2005, 05:27 AM
Without undue respect, you're no master of 16 type! I knew an INFP well who was an expert networker and general keyboard cowboy. Much more so than I ever will be.
athman
10 Jan 2005, 12:00 PM
Who would I want to be in the Star Wars universe? The person who owns the merchandising rights.
MasterMerk
10 Jan 2005, 12:26 PM
Yoda is definatley INF, but that whole "Do or do not, there is no try" line, et al makes me think he's more J than P. If you think Yoda and Luke were both INFP than you have to look at the differences between them. Yoda gives off a more certain vibe, he definatley knows what he's talking about. Yoda's the dude they all come for for advice, training, foresight. Not quite the same as Luke.
These films..... Seen in a while, I have not. But I have a hunch he ain't INFP.
matthew0028
10 Jan 2005, 01:11 PM
Yoda is definatley INF, but that whole "Do or do not, there is no try" line, et al makes me think he's more J than P. If you think Yoda and Luke were both INFP than you have to look at the differences between them. Yoda gives off a more certain vibe, he definatley knows what he's talking about. Yoda's the dude they all come for for advice, training, foresight. Not quite the same as Luke.
These films..... Seen in a while, I have not. But I have a hunch he ain't INFP.
When 900 years old you reach, for advice all will come regardless of type, yeess...
Biff_Loman
10 Jan 2005, 07:45 PM
Wow.
CreativeChaos
10 Jan 2005, 09:09 PM
Yeah, you're right Biff. I deleted that piece of crap. I should have put winks behind stuff. I wasn't really angry, I was continuing my playing "tough" and "oh so knowledgable line". But it didn't come off right. Pooh! :blush:
jyakulis
10 Jan 2005, 09:13 PM
I still think Solo's ISTP, but more importantly, Luke is archetypical INFP, and I don't see how you could miss that unless you have no clue what it means to be one. Isolate S/N...He constantly lives in imagination, he's the opposite of Solo in observance of the Force, he shut off his targeting computer at Yavin, etc. etc. etc. etc. etc. And even Yoda said "Never your mind on where you were! What you were doing!"
I agree, here's the direct quote. If that doesn't peg him I don't know what does.
YODA: Ready, are you? What know you of ready? For eight hundred years
have I trained Jedi. My own counsel will I keep on who is to be
trained! A Jedi must have the deepest commitment, the most serious
mind. (to the invisible Ben, indicating Luke) This one a long time
have I watched. Never his mind on where he was. Hmm? What he was
doing. Hmph. Adventure. Heh! Excitement. Heh! A Jedi craves not these
things. (turning to Luke) You are reckless!
Edmond Zedo
10 Jan 2005, 10:15 PM
Wow.
Dude, what'd she say? No fair!
MacGuffin
11 Jan 2005, 04:35 PM
You'd think I'd pick Darth, but actually being a genocidal power-mad leader is not too cool.
Obi-Wan is the one I'd want to be. His character has gotten even better in the prequels.
But since he wasn't available I went with Luke. I used to be a whiny dork and got better with age.
Biff_Loman
11 Jan 2005, 05:38 PM
I picked Vader. Maybe his crimes are worse in the books; I haven't read them. Genocidal? That didn't really come through in the movies. . . Ruthless and given to choking subordinates, sure.
Crazy
11 Jan 2005, 09:03 PM
One thought on Leia, in reference to the fact that she is all over, and hard to type, has anyone thought that this might be due to the infamous cameleon factor?
tragula
11 Jan 2005, 09:26 PM
Hmm. I think Yoda is more INTP and not INFP. He's just not that sympathetic or personal, and doesn't seem to have any friends. Feeling "the Force" could just be another way of saying "intuiting the Truth". You guys who think he's INFP are just being thrown off because he is an alien life form and expresses his INTPness differently. :p
matthew0028
12 Jan 2005, 12:13 AM
I picked Vader. Maybe his crimes are worse in the books; I haven't read them. Genocidal? That didn't really come through in the movies. . . Ruthless and given to choking subordinates, sure.
"BEN: A young Jedi named Darth Vader, who was a pupil of mine until he
turned to evil, helped the Empire hunt down and destroy the Jedi
Knights. He betrayed and murdered your father. Now the Jedi are all
but extinct. Vader was seduced by the dark side of the Force."
TPol
21 Jan 2005, 08:44 PM
Tragula, I think you're on the right track, including the alien-difference theory. :) I test to be strongly INTP on the Myers-Brigg stuff. On the Star Wars personality test, I test to be "Yoda" every time. Perhaps you should all go get tested and see how many "yodas" there are among we INTPs.
http://www.outofservice.com/starwars/
athman
21 Jan 2005, 09:42 PM
Tragula, I think you're on the right track, including the alien-difference theory. :) I test to be strongly INTP on the Myers-Brigg stuff. On the Star Wars personality test, I test to be "Yoda" every time. Perhaps you should all go get tested and see how many "yodas" there are among we INTPs.
http://www.outofservice.com/starwars/
Good fun. I didn't get yoda, i got five different personalities. I guess I really should go into counselling now.
Openness - Your percentile: 76% You are relatively open to new experiences.
Wicket -- A particularly curious, inventive, and resourceful young Ewok, open to exploring new ideas and developing novel solutions to everyday problems (e.g., destroying AT-STs).
Conscientious- Your percentile: 47% You are neither organized or disorganized.
Grand Moff Tarkin -- Is in the middle of conscientiousness because although he is usually a highly organized leader with a keen eye for detail, he occasionally misses a small but crucial detail (e.g., vulnerable exhaust ports on death stars).
Extraversion - Your percentile: 9% You probably enjoy spending quiet time alone.
Wampas -- reclusive creatures of the ice planet Hoth. They are rarely seen & generally shy, leading a solitary existence.
Agreeableness - Your percentile: 14% You find it easy to criticize others.
Emperor Palpatine -- An evil, power hungry tyrant, he is manipulative, evil, and ruthless.
Neoriticism - Your percentile: 27% You are generally relaxed.
R2-D2 -- A brave droid, who remains calm, confident and unperturbed even during the most dangerous of missions.
tragula
21 Jan 2005, 09:44 PM
Who knew! You can find everything on the internet--except for originality...
I googled and found ANOTHER Star Wars test that is shorter and better:
http://www.matthewbarr.co.uk/personality/
I tested Yoda in both tests! :-)
TPol
22 Jan 2005, 06:15 AM
Yes, I like that test better. Thanks, Tragula. Athman, the test I posted gives that many personalities to everyone. You basically have to look at the percentage you are highest in. That's why I didn't like that test as well, but it was the only one I found that was actually working when I posted. :) Glad Tragula found this one instead.
Warrior413
22 Jan 2005, 06:31 AM
High scorers tend to be original, creative, curious, complex; Low scorers tend to be conventional, down to earth, narrow interests, uncreative.
Your percentile: 70% You are relatively open to new experiences.
Wicket -- A particularly curious, inventive, and resourceful young Ewok, open to exploring new ideas and developing novel solutions to everyday problems (e.g., destroying AT-STs).
High scorers tend to be reliable, well-organized, self-disciplined, careful; Low scorers tend to be disorganized, undependable, negligent.
Your percentile: 41% You are neither organized or disorganized.
Grand Moff Tarkin -- Is in the middle of conscientiousness because although he is usually a highly organized leader with a keen eye for detail, he occasionally misses a small but crucial detail (e.g., vulnerable exhaust ports on death stars).
High scorers tend to be sociable, friendly, fun loving, talkative; Low scorers tend to be introverted, reserved, inhibited, quiet.
Your percentile: 3% You probably enjoy spending quiet time alone.
Wampas -- reclusive creatures of the ice planet Hoth. They are rarely seen & generally shy, leading a solitary existence.
High scorers tend to be good natured, sympathetic, forgiving, courteous; Low scorers tend to be critical, rude, harsh, callous.
Your percentile: 10% You find it easy to criticize others.
Emperor Palpatine -- An evil, power hungry tyrant, he is manipulative, evil, and ruthless.
High scorers tend to be nervous, high-strung, insecure, worrying; Low scorers tend to be calm, relaxed, secure, hardy.
Your percentile: 5% You probably remain calm, even in tense situations.
Princess Leia -- A confident & calm individual who does not crack under pressure (e.g.,. when being threatened by Lord Vader). She is brave and relaxed, even when in great danger (e.g., when disguising herself as a bounty hunter to gain access to Jabba the Hutt’s palace).
And Yoda on the 2nd test.
That's it, I'm changing my avatar... :ph34r:
prometheusdestroyed
22 Jan 2005, 09:46 PM
Yoda seems to be a bit of a 'feeler' to me. He's a very compassionate little guy isn't he? Tetchy to cover it though
Edmond Zedo
22 Jan 2005, 10:04 PM
Yoda! You seek Yoda! I think we're all Yoda. It's a good thing old Ben Kenobi wasn't an option here either. *sigh*
ApeTheDog
22 Jan 2005, 10:22 PM
I would be a goddamn lightsaber, goddammit, that's who I'd be.
booyalab
22 Jan 2005, 10:22 PM
durr i want to be the one who dies..durr
Edmond Zedo
22 Jan 2005, 10:24 PM
When struck down, he became more powerful than you can possibly imagine. Durr.
Crazy
24 Jan 2005, 06:41 PM
"I don't know, I can imagine quite a lot"
athman
25 Jan 2005, 10:12 AM
Athman, the test I posted gives that many personalities to everyone. You basically have to look at the percentage you are highest in .
Oh, I see. "Likes complex ideas and tasks and does well on them yet often fails on simple things" (from another thread)
I did the other test and came up Yoda too. Welcome to YODA Central
Little Miss Krahka
26 Jan 2005, 01:16 AM
I did the other test and got Han Solo. You don't see me complaining. Besides, the Jedi always kinda freak me out. You never know where they stand, or what they're really thinking. Oh, they can go ahead and believe that they're using their powers for "the good of the galaxy" or what-not, while we watch them do nothing about galatic hunger, or corruption in the senete. Nope! Too worried about not using their lightsabers and not training eight year olds because they're "too old". Bah with it all! Hokey religions and ancient weapons are no match for a good blaster by your side! Or teh pow3r of teh mind!
Actually, I'd probably be one of those guys who wasn't even in the movies, or if I was, it was a very short appearence that spawned countless EU novels because I was just that cool. Completely random darksider with no connection to anything, (the dark side is always more fun!) one of the many Bothan spies who died to obtain "this information", or one of the people who died on Alderaan, or that trumpet nosed guy who told the Imperials where Luke, Ben and Han were, or that weird sadistic droid in Jabba the Hutt's palace, or that R5 unit that blows up, or the senator from the planet Spielberg, or that gonking droid, and now I'm getting completely random.
I'll settle with being the gonk droid. GONK! GONK! Or maybe a jawa . . .
Iffin you ask me, Yoda strikes me as more of an INFJ. But INFP is completely possible. Definetely an INF of some kind. Just my opinion.
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