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Jezebel
9 Dec 2004, 09:53 PM
strategies for balancing your type (http://www.gesher.org/Myers-Briggs/Hints%20to%20Balance%20Your%20Type.HTM), a list for each of the preferences with tips to deal with time management, conflict, and careers.

lauriep
9 Dec 2004, 11:52 PM
Some good suggestions ... bookmarked will follow up with later.

Thanks for sharing.

Zero Angel
10 Dec 2004, 12:56 AM
Great info and easy to absorb. Thanks Jez.

purple13
10 Dec 2004, 01:19 AM
I should post this in my cube at work. Thanks for the info.

Groty
10 Dec 2004, 03:06 AM
Very helpful. I should have a few of those tatooed to Trinity's(INTJ) forehead as a personal reminder to myself.:blink:

Clara
10 Dec 2004, 07:23 AM
Thank you Jezebel - I wanted to find exactly that.
And, it's great to cross things off "my list" without having actually added them :)

I like your new avatar. It's original, refreshing, and pretty. I'm hoping you picked the color because you love blue - and not because of still being cold. :)

Groty: you have to tell me, if Trinity isn't telling you whatever-that-is already - because that means I really did not understand what I thought I did, about INTJs...?

cloakable
10 Dec 2004, 01:04 PM
Hehe, good, but for some reason some of the points make me laugh, I don't know why:
Finish your sentences when talking to S's. And remember not to finish theirs for them.

When you can't find something, it's probably where you already looked 3 times, but you just didn't see it. Look there again, or get an S to look for you.

Pay attention to what your body is dealing you. N's often fail to notice they are exhausted or in pain.

Try to focus, limiting yourself to only 2 or 3 projects at a time.

Recognize that your P habits can drive Js crazy.

I suppose it's funny cause it's true.

Groty
10 Dec 2004, 02:06 PM
Groty: you have to tell me, if Trinity isn't telling you whatever-that-is already - because that means I really did not understand what I thought I did, about INTJs...?No, not always. We've worked together for years, and the conversations come up, but we don't always remember. We have a great working relationship, kinda like Binaries to use a geeky term.

Here's an example though:

10. It takes great intelligence, flexibility and skill to operate successfully without a plan. J's may not understand or appreciate your skill in this. - She's very methodical, and a planner. Can't get to from A to C without going through B.

2. Recognize that your P habits can drive Js crazy. - And this is a good generalization, though we've worked together so long, it's funny rather than frustrating.

Clara
10 Dec 2004, 07:11 PM
Thanks, Groty - (suddenly tripped by noticing that the term "shed light" sounds strange... because it's referring to something a little more purposeful that leaving hair around :blink: - so, change terms, just in case: ) You're inspiring insight once again, for me.


It takes great intelligence, flexibility and skill to operate successfully without a plan. J's may not understand or appreciate your skill in this. - She's very methodical, and a planner. Can't get to from A to C without going through B

That's a great example. Especially when this skill (operating independently of a plan) is one of the keys in running with ideas, creatively. I suspect, though, that her "A to B to C" may involve larger hops than many other people's. (That's a fun way of looking at the difference: misappreciating and overlooking... we forget the need to voice our view, and since they can't see it, how could they guess...)

cloakable, I also like "focus on only 2 (or 3) things at once" - happppy

"... P habits can drive others crazy." Making a habit of always (keyword, because otherwise it's mean and even-crazier-making) saying, "... then it must be a short ride." (with a smile, and while standing several armslengths away) sometimes lightens things up ;) - this is where judgement and sense take on their venacular meanings...

SheepDog
10 Dec 2004, 07:48 PM
10. It takes great intelligence, flexibility and skill to operate successfully without a plan. J's may not understand or appreciate your skill in this. - She's very methodical, and a planner. Can't get to from A to C without going through B.

I just finished a fluid power class taught by a very bright engineer, but a J. One of the assignments was very open-ended, something like "build a circuit to sequence the valves so that switch a and switch b must both be triggered for it to work..." As my instructor stood there, I started hooking it up. He stopped me and said, "how can you do this without drawing it first?" I told him the picture was in my head, and proceeded to hook it up. I had it working in about 5 minutes. He said that most people take about an hour before he has to come bail them out.


2. Recognize that your P habits can drive Js crazy. -
I learned this a long time ago and use it to my advantage quite often :D

Groty
10 Dec 2004, 08:10 PM
As my instructor stood there, I started hooking it up. He stopped me and said, "how can you do this without drawing it first?" I told him the picture was in my head, and proceeded to hook it up. I had it working in about 5 minutes. He said that most people take about an hour before he has to come bail them out.

I've been trying to explain a simple(to me) concept to a group of engineers for a week. They can't comprehend the process. I've spoken with them on the phone and emailed them a point be point of it. Still nothing!

So I had to draw them a picture! :banghead:

Let's see how that goes over.

Jezebel
12 Dec 2004, 11:16 AM
Thank you Jezebel - I wanted to find exactly that.
And, it's great to cross things off "my list" without having actually added them :)

I like your new avatar. It's original, refreshing, and pretty. I'm hoping you picked the color because you love blue - and not because of still being cold. :)

You're welcome and thank you, Clara. I do like blue.

Mariel
24 Dec 2004, 09:15 AM
The ENFP page on type-balancing and personal growth is pretty good (although some of it makes me squirm). Many of you have probably seen this, but I thought it was worth posting anyway.
http://www.personalitypage.com/INTP_per.html

Shai Gar
1 Jan 2005, 06:16 AM
I should post this in my cube at work. Thanks for the info. an intp in a cubical. must be hell.

coffeezombie
1 Jan 2005, 05:27 PM
an intp in a cubical. must be hell.

It is. Being stuck at work the same time every day is hell enough. Hopefully in the future there will be more "telework" options so that we can all stay at home and do work in the comfort of our living room wearing our pajamas.

CreativeChaos
1 Jan 2005, 11:41 PM
Originally posted by Mariel:
The ENFP page on type-balancing and personal growth is pretty good (although some of it makes me squirm). Many of you have probably seen this, but I thought it was worth posting anyway.
http://www.personalitypage.com/INTP_per.html

Great site Mariel. :) I took a look at the INFP personal growth at it was really good. Good thread Jezebel. :)

hemanthraz
3 Jan 2005, 09:19 AM
Hopefully in the future there will be more "telework" options so that we can all stay at home and do work in the comfort of our living room wearing our pajamas.

I would rather be without them.!! Cubicles suck.
i feel boxed in by nuts.

Nice link. i do get the feeling that ive said too much very often.