Real philosophy

[Edmond Zedo]

Why does my life have to be so small,
and death is forever?
And does forever have a life to call its own?

Don't give me an answer, 'cause you only know
As much as I know.
Unless you've been there once, hell, I hardly think so!

--Green Day circa 1992

[Zero Angel]

You remind me of a hardcore INTJ (my old self), but your poetic side surprises me.

[Edmond Zedo]

My INTJ best friend and I were avid Green Day fans in "our time." And thanks.

[Johnny]

Real Philosophy? Isn't that a misnomer?

[Edmond Zedo]

I don't believe 'tis.

[Johnny]

An oxymoron, then?

[Edmond Zedo]

The definitions of misnomer and oxymoron overlap. I know what you're trying to say. I knew what you were trying to say. I know what real means. I know what philosophy means. No.

[Johnny]

Then real philosophy is redundant?

[Edmond Zedo]

Oh, dear God in heaven, and all His glory. No!

I said "Real Philosophy" because other people use the word so loosely, and had to specify that I wasn't.

[Dman]

But does .999...=1? Oh, wait, wrong forum.

What is diff between "Real Philosophy" and "Philosophy"?

[Zero Angel]

Philosophy is concepts right? So concepts are not concrete.

Concrete is the actual, concept is what can be imagined.

Santa clause is a concept
Philosophy is a concept

Therefore, there is no such thing as real philosophy, it exists in our minds.

[Dman]

Found this on dictionary.com; see #6:

re·al1 P Pronunciation Key (r l, r l)
adj.
1.
a. Being or occurring in fact or actuality; having verifiable existence: real objects; a real illness.
b. True and actual; not imaginary, alleged, or ideal: real people, not ghosts; a film based on real life.
c. Of or founded on practical matters and concerns: a recent graduate experiencing the real world for the first time.
2. Genuine and authentic; not artificial or spurious: real mink; real humility.
3. Being no less than what is stated; worthy of the name: a real friend.
4. Free of pretense, falsehood, or affectation: tourists hoping for a real experience on the guided tour.
5. Not to be taken lightly; serious: in real trouble.
6. Philosophy. Existing objectively in the world regardless of subjectivity or conventions of thought or language.
7. Relating to, being, or having value reckoned by actual purchasing power: real income; real growth.
8. Physics. Of, relating to, or being an image formed by light rays that converge in space.
9. Mathematics. Of, relating to, or being a real number.
10. Law. Of or relating to stationary or fixed property, such as buildings or land.

[Johnny]

Oh, dear God in heaven, and all His glory. No!

I said "Real Philosophy" because other people use the word so loosely, and had to specify that I wasn't.I've got nothing against letting personal experience be the final arbiter (or even the starting point) for what comprises one's philosophy...but for me it's only a facet of some much larger and complex picture.

My natural predisposition is to begin with a vision or model that I've constructed in my mind, and then taking whatever possible actions to honor that vision (e.g., I have in my mind the lines I play on a musical instrument in advance of their execution, where my actions are also considered in feedback and actions taken to adjust as appropriate). To me, it's especially critical in singing or playing instruments that aren't constructed to elicit fixed pitches...and poor intonation is not a wonderful thing to hear.

In other words, I strive to make the vision real, rather than letting reality confine my vision.

Interesting how our function preferences affect us.

[cuspuser]

I am a Real Philosopher.

I like to think i'm a real Philsopher ;)

[Edmond Zedo]

Found this on dictionary.com; see #6:

re·al1 P Pronunciation Key (r l, r l)
adj.

6. Philosophy. Existing objectively in the world regardless of subjectivity or conventions of thought or language.

Yeah, when it has the thing after the thing, that doesn't mean it defines the thing, it means the thing is related to the thing after it.