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Ferrus
8 Dec 2006, 09:34 AM
http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/nickrobinson/2006/12/white_house_new.html

Nick Robison has always annoyed me for being an arrogant prick but I have to be amused by this. I suspect journalists in the US couch their questions in rather more delicate terms when questioning him.

PsiKik
8 Dec 2006, 11:45 AM
Is a video clip of this available anywhere? would love to see it.
I mean a clip that I can DOWNLOAD. Not the link on the BBC site.

Ferrus
8 Dec 2006, 12:10 PM
Not as far as I know, unless you know how to download a streamed video.

It's only been up for a day or two, expect it to appear on YouTube soon.

C.J.Woolf
8 Dec 2006, 02:27 PM
http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/nickrobinson/2006/12/white_house_new.html

Nick Robison has always annoyed me for being an arrogant prick but I have to be amused by this. I suspect journalists in the US couch their questions in rather more delicate terms when questioning him.
I suspect you're right. Carole Coleman of Irish TV interviewed Bush in 2005(?) and he got ticked off at her too. Her side of the story is here:

http://www.timesonline.co.uk/newspaper/0,,2766-1817008_1,00.html

Jennywocky
8 Dec 2006, 02:41 PM
It's not unexpected.

Bush is a pragmatist. He has an idea of how he wants to take action, and he wants to take action ASAP.

All this talking, and questioning, and challenging simply impedes his ability to take action. He hates it when people get in his way, or make things hard for him -- and that includes having to justify his actions to them.

It's disappointing, but predictable. And unfortunately, it's one of the reasons he has actually been ineffectual as president. He would have gotten much further if he had actually eased up and been able to critically examine himself.

Ferrus
8 Dec 2006, 03:52 PM
Bush is a pragmatist... All this talking, and questioning, and challenging
Surely as a politician this is exactly what he should expect, it's sort of in the job description.

Jennywocky
8 Dec 2006, 03:59 PM
Surely as a politician this is exactly what he should expect, it's sort of in the job description.

I get peeved at one of my kids for being the same way... but as I keep reminding myself, it's in his best interest to be pushing the envelope and forcing me to intervene if I need to stop him from something. At worst, I'll stop him; at best, he can get everything he wants simply by wearing me out or making me indifferent. He doesn't really lose.

Ferrus
8 Dec 2006, 04:03 PM
What's interesting though is that the last few years have taught him nothing - very much the polar opposite of Blair who has changed considerably as Prime Minister over the last 10 years - which is somewhat surprising given that you would think being President would, and I think many of the past holders did. Even the pragmatist Reagan learnt to work with the USSR in way way that when he started his presidency seemed an anathema to him. I say this because if you listen to his speech it is still filled with the same tropes, the same 'GRR, TERRORISM, WMD, IRAN, AL QAEDA, AMERICAN SOLDIERS', that would not have been out of place in a speech in 2001.

Jennywocky
8 Dec 2006, 04:10 PM
What's interesting though is that the last few years have taught him nothing - very much the polar opposite of Blair who has changed considerably as Prime Minister - which is somewhat surprising given that you would think being President would, and I think many of the past holders did. Even the pragmatist Reagan learnt to work with the USSR in way way that when he started his presidency seemed an anathema to him. I say this because if you listen to his speech it is still filled with the same tropes, the same 'GRR, TERRORISM, WMD, IRAN, AL QAEDA, AMERICAN SOLDIERS', that would not have been out of place in a speech in 2001.

That might be one of my largest disappointments with him.

I can tolerate and even forgive ignorance, and help someone who wants to grow and learn.

I get very upset with people who are given every opportunity to change and who constantly run from the light, making up every excuse why the rest of the world is simply wrong.

(What's the percentage at today? 27% approve of Bush's handling of Iraq now? And even his own people turning on him? And he STILL refused to acknowledge that things were bad until he lost the 2006 fall elections and realized he was completely screwed, because he had NO support left and thus no power to do anything he wanted? He's only giving the barest bit he does now because he has no other option; but if he had his choice, his head would still be stuck up his... well...)

That reminds me of a funny story. We had a friend who doing some really dumb things, and cutting off all of her friends who came to her concerned about what was happening. My wife, frustrated, said to our 9 year old son (at the time) that this woman had her "head stuck up her butt. And what would YOU do if were in that situation?

My son didn't even miss a beat, he just said, "Well, the first thing I'd do would be to take my head out of my butt."

Ferrus
8 Dec 2006, 04:25 PM
Heh, wiser words were never said.

Bush's pronunciation of the word 'historians' does amuse me slightly.

C.J.Woolf
8 Dec 2006, 06:15 PM
That reminds me of a funny story. We had a friend who doing some really dumb things, and cutting off all of her friends who came to her concerned about what was happening. My wife, frustrated, said to our 9 year old son (at the time) that this woman had her "head stuck up her butt. And what would YOU do if were in that situation?

My son didn't even miss a beat, he just said, "Well, the first thing I'd do would be to take my head out of my butt."
:rofl: Out of the mouths of babes...

Intension
9 Dec 2006, 12:24 AM
That might be one of my largest disappointments with him.

I can tolerate and even forgive ignorance, and help someone who wants to grow and learn.


Recently I read of Bush being described as "incurious," a word I don't see used very often. From my INTP perspective, I thought this was a terrible insult.