Tone recognition test

[Tayshaun]

Are you tone deaf? http://www.jakemandell.com/tonedeaf/

I'm a jazz pianist and expected to shine. I spend time transcribing solos and playing "by ear" without (I thought) altering anything I heard. I spent hours and hours in my life concentrating on musical phrases and expected a 100% score. However, my score is 80.6%. Test was difficult (only one hearing of each sample), and humbling.

[fripping]

83.3% and haven't played music in years. suck it, trebek.

[Tayshaun]

83.3% and haven't played music in years. suck it, trebek.

Ouch

[stopharian]

83.3% Correct, but i cant play a damn thing.

edit:83.3 seems popular

[Tayshaun]

:whistle:

[Tayshaun]

83.3% is impressive. According to test, this means potential of being excellent musicians (world-class musicians at 90%).

[stopharian]

:whistle:

ah come on pal, you can take it again.

besides did you really want to leave anything unaltered........may as well improve it a bit along the way

[stopharian]

what instrument should i take up at 32? trumpet or guitar?

[fripping]

it's just a dumb test. i used to be a decent musician but my penchant for screwing around always kept me from being so great.

what instrument should i take up at 32? trumpet or guitar?
guitar. when you play a wind instrument there's all this tricky internal stuff you have to do with your airways to sound good and stay in tune but with guitar it's all external, just have to develop finger toughness, dexterity, and muscle memory. if your guitar goes out of tune you just tweak the whatchamacallit a little bit and then forget about it.

[Tayshaun]

I used to be a decent musician but my penchant for screwing around always kept me from being so great.

The reason why I started playing jazz. Freedom and theoretical knowledge to screw around really well.



guitar. when you play a wind instrument there's all this tricky internal stuff you have to do with your airways to sound good and stay in tune but with guitar it's all external, just have to develop finger toughness, dexterity, and muscle memory. if your guitar goes out of tune you just tweak the whatchamacallit a little bit and then forget about it.

Learning the trumpet has advantages as well and one of them is actually the "tricky internal stuff you have to do with your airways to sound good" (this is less of a problem with the flute, clarinet, saxophone). I have a 25 year old professional jazz pianist friend who just picked up the trumpet and is loving the challenge.

An obvious advantage of knowing how to play the guitar is social. The guitar is a transportable polyphonic instrument (unlike the piano). Therefore, you can bring it along and play in a wide variety of contexts. Learning a polyphonic instrument is really worth it. Musical theory is easier to visualize and you learn to master harmony much faster. This is why many jazz musicians use the piano to practice harmony and theory.

[fripping]

The reason why I started playing jazz. Freedom and theoretical knowledge to screw around really well.
I couldn't ever do jazz seriously, because I feel like it's just museum music. A dead but well-preserved artform. But that's just personal bias, it would be stupid to criticize you for playing it. on the other hand i never really felt connected with jazz, it was as if i was speaking for somebody else when i played it. blues is just as dead but i'm quite happy to dabble with that genre.



Learning the trumpet has advantages as well and one of them is actually the "tricky internal stuff you have to do with your airways to sound good" (this is less of a problem with the flute, clarinet, saxophone). I have a 25 year old professional jazz pianist friend who just picked up the trumpet and is loving the challenge.
ok, if that sort of thing interests you. but from an effort standpoint i think guitar is easier because you don't have to constantly be checking and refining yourself just to be in tune. this is making the assumption that easier is better.



An obvious advantage of knowing how to play the guitar is social. The guitar is a transportable polyphonic instrument (unlike the piano). Therefore, you can bring it along and play in a wide variety of contexts. Learning a polyphonic instrument is really worth it. Musical theory is easier to visualize and you learn to master harmony much faster. This is why many jazz musicians use the piano to practice harmony and theory.
yes. i agree totally and that's the main reason i want to start seriously learning guitar.

[stopharian]

I forgot to mention that my brother owns a company in Bolivia making beautiful handmade guitars.

http://www.mamaniguitars.com/

and here (http://cgi.ebay.com/Mamani-Guitars-Flamed-Mahogany-OM-15-Martin-strings_W0QQitemZ320044269404QQihZ011QQcategoryZ2385QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem)


So unless my other brother starts a trumpet factory, maybe I'll get a guitar.

[Tayshaun]

I forgot to mention that my brother owns a company in Bolivia making beautiful handmade guitars.

Musical Family ---> Possible explanation of good ear

[CasaK]

Yay, 66.7 and to think everyone told me I was tone deaf in choir.

[tatsutahime6]

80.6% Correct. =))

I just hope I'm this good at guessing when my Japanese proficiency exam rolls around next month...

[AcidGoethe]

I got 86.1% correct. I'm a guitar shredder. I'm used to distinguishing notes in fast runs :devil:


ok, if that sort of thing interests you. but from an effort standpoint i think guitar is easier because you don't have to constantly be checking and refining yourself just to be in tune. this is making the assumption that easier is better.

That's completly wrong. Playing solo guitar requires excellent notions of intonation because of string bending.

[Tayshaun]

80.6% Correct. =))

I just hope I'm this good at guessing when my Japanese proficiency exam rolls around next month...

Well done :headphone:

[Meliora]

61.3%

I've been a musician for several years on various instruments, but due to my hearing loss I usually have trouble hearing subtle differences in detailed phrases like some of those were. I'm a lot better with figuring out rythyms than pitches.

My brother is a guitarist who can also play bass and drums fairly well, and he got around an 89 or something. Interestingly, my best friend is also a pretty good guitarist and he got the same score as me.

[Zero Angel]

86.1%, but I've been playing the guitar for almost 2 years.

Incidentally, my own sense of pitch sucks when trying to learn certain arpeggios or fast hammeron/pulloff sequences, but maybe I just haven't 'stored' enough tones in my memory to be able to recall their exact positions easily. (And I usually 'stumble upon' and eventually complete a familiar lick when hitting random notes. That is probably Si working musically)


That's completly wrong. Playing solo guitar requires excellent notions of intonation because of string bending.
Agreed. Its also useful for playing anything freestyle, instead of just using power chords. It's also useful when it comes to learning music by ear or knowing when to use a 'sharp' key.

[Zero Angel]

I tried submitting my score and the page disappeared. It looks like the site has been slashdotted.

[PiccoloNamek]

This site seems to be down, but I remember scoring 27 out of 30 on the Delosis musical listening test once.

Edit: I just did it again and got 28/30. Woo.

[Tayshaun]

86.1%

(And I usually 'stumble upon' and eventually complete a familiar lick when hitting random notes. That is probably Si working musically)


:banana: this wonderful feeling of having your intuition make you hit the right notes at the right time in an automatic sort of way! :headphone:

[Tayshaun]

This site seems to be down, but I remember scoring 27 out of 30 on the Delosis musical listening test once.

Edit: I just did it again and got 28/30. Woo.

Just tried the Delosis test and got 27. It seems somewhat easier than the other test.

[PiccoloNamek]

I had the feeling it was. I bet I could score at least 85% on the other test, though.

[Trystorp]

30/30 on the Delosis test. I'd like to try the other one - hope it comes back up.

[fripping]

I got 86.1% correct. I'm a guitar shredder. I'm used to distinguishing notes in fast runs :devil:



That's completly wrong. Playing solo guitar requires excellent notions of intonation because of string bending.
Ok, my argument was a little lazy. I'll rephrase it in a more responsible way. With a wind instrument it's also quite easy to bend notes, depending on the way you blow through a certain fingering it can be bent up to 50 cents, almost entirely into another note, just like guitar. The difference is, there's no visual correspondence to where your note is, your judgement must be completely by ear or at best by ear along with with a subjective idea of how much air you are delivering compared to what you ought to be delivering. With guitar, especially if you know the tendencies of your own particular instrument, you can get some idea of your intonation just by looking at the placement of your fingers. I'm not saying you can be tone-deaf and play guitar well with eyes and chord fingering memorization alone, just that you're making your judgement with twice as much information, so at any given moment you can have a clearer idea of what pitch your notes are at without having to have the ears of god.

[Zero Angel]

Ok, my argument was a little lazy. I'll rephrase it in a more responsible way. With a wind instrument it's also quite easy to bend notes, depending on the way you blow through a certain fingering it can be bent up to 50 cents, almost entirely into another note, just like guitar. The difference is, there's no visual correspondence to where your note is, your judgement must be completely by ear. With guitar, especially if you know the tendencies of your own particular instrument, you can get some idea of your intonation just by looking at the placement of your fingers. I'm not saying you can be tone-deaf and play guitar with eyes and chord fingering memorization alone, just that you're making your judgement with twice as much information, so at any given moment you can have a clearer idea of what pitch your notes are at without having to have the ears of god.
B.S. You need a sense of pitch to know how far to bend the notes in the first place, how slowly to bend the notes, how deeply to apply vibrato to get the exact sound you want, and how far to bend (without looking at the fretboard). A lot of 'good' guitarists don't even really look at the fretboard when they're playing, they play simply by pitch. Some of the more formulaic guitarist might play by visual/sense memory alone but the more passionate guitarists will play using pitch and it shows in the quality of their work.

You need pitch in order to be 'creative' in any sense of the word, to make your guitar 'talk', to shape the sound to achieve a desired effect or feeling in your audience. Pitch and emotion are what gives your music soul; Harmonics and chromaticism and dynamics are just a few of the methods that you use to achieve those effects. Of course they all rely on pitch to really work.

http://www.guitarnoise.com/article.php?id=216

And here you talk as if playing the guitar takes no skill or dedication. Try aspiring to become a master guitarist in under 5 years and then we'll talk.

[fripping]

Alright, well, my notions of guitar are based on the experience of a novice, so maybe I really am full of shit when it comes to any concept of advanced play. But at least at the beginning of musical study guitar intonation is easier, don't you agree?

[Meliora]

I remember being amazed when I realized that you could play the same note on a tuba with a different fingering of valves than usual.

[Zero Angel]

Alright, well, my notions of guitar are based on the experience of a novice, so maybe I really am full of shit when it comes to any concept of advanced play. But at least at the beginning of musical study guitar intonation is easier, don't you agree?
Yes, if you're reading and playing from tabs in a formulistic manner. Or simply plucking the scales, but guitarists like Satriani and Hendrix were never able to make their guitar 'talk' simply by the using formulistic methods that beginners use. If you ever go to a live show (not just a rock concert) where you get a chance to really pay attention to a real guitarist while he is soloing, then you will understand all of the skill that goes into making your guitar speak.

[AcidGoethe]

Ok, my argument was a little lazy. I'll rephrase it in a more responsible way. With a wind instrument it's also quite easy to bend notes, depending on the way you blow through a certain fingering it can be bent up to 50 cents, almost entirely into another note, just like guitar. The difference is, there's no visual correspondence to where your note is, your judgement must be completely by ear or at best by ear along with with a subjective idea of how much air you are delivering compared to what you ought to be delivering. With guitar, especially if you know the tendencies of your own particular instrument, you can get some idea of your intonation just by looking at the placement of your fingers. I'm not saying you can be tone-deaf and play guitar well with eyes and chord fingering memorization alone, just that you're making your judgement with twice as much information, so at any given moment you can have a clearer idea of what pitch your notes are at without having to have the ears of god.

I agree now with your statement, but I don't think it is sufficient to conclude that the guitar is easier to play than a wind instrument. As a beginner, the guitar is easier. For example, learning to play chords is extremely simple and can be done fairly quickly without prior musical knowledge or expertise. However, the real difficulties of the instrument only show off at ulterior levels when learning to play solos. In fact, the guitar is much more difficult than the piano, flute and violin when it comes to playing lead.

Let's take a technically demanding piece for any instrument: The flight of the bumblebee. This is 16th notes at 200 bpm. Let's compare the execution of this for several instruments:


Piano: Whenever one of your hands pushes on a key, a note is played. Only the action of one hand is required to play a note. The lack of dexterity you may have with one hand can be compensated by the action of your second hand to play this sequence.

Flute: To play a note, you need the action of one hand while blowing air with your mouth. To play this sequence, you need considerable dexterity from both hands whilst blowing continously in the proper manner.

Violin: To play one note, you need the action and coordination of both hands. Having only 4 fingers to play this sequence means you will have to be very fast. The difficulty is that there are no frets. However, your right hand simply has to apply continuous force with your arch on the strings for the notes to sound.

Guitar: To play one note, you also need the action and coordination of both hands like the violin. There is also the dexterity required of your left hand to fret the notes. As with the violin, having only 4 fingers to play this sequence means you will have to be fast. But this is only half of the problem. The biggest challenge comes from your right hand on the guitar. If you use fingerstyle, your right hand fingers must touch the strings at the precise moments you fret them with your left hand. If you use a pick, you must be able to pick alternately with your right hand and your pick must touch the string at the precise moment your finger applies force on a fret. This demands extreme coordination between both hands at such high speeds. The technical demands of playing a sequence of 16th notes at 200 bpm become overwhelming.

When it comes to solos, the guitar is an incredibly challenging instrument and much more so than the piano, the flute or the violin. It is relatively easy to achieve high speeds with these last instruments compared to with the guitar. Guitar players who play solos have to spent years perfecting their right hand technique to simply be able to play at moderate speeds. Meanwhile, their cousins who play violin can execute fast leads succesfully much earlier. The right hand problem doesn't exist with the violin. Once you know where the notes are, you just need sufficient left hand dexterity to play very, very fast. In the same vein, a solo flute player's can outspeed a guitar player easily as he just has to move the fingers of both hands fast whilst blowing. All in all, this proves that the guitar is not easier to play than a wind instrument, and furthermore it isn't easier to play either than the piano or the violin.

[booyalab]

the link doesnt work

[Pan]

guitar-jockey smack talk

Come on. Do you really think there's nothing more to bowing a violin than moving your arm up and down? Sheesh. And if you think it only takes one finger or one hand to change to another note on a woodwind, you've clearly never watched one played - never mind tried to noodle around in the 3rd octave.

Fripping is exactly right - wind instruments combine all the internal technical challenges of classically trained singing with the dextral challenges of other instruments. If you sing and play guitar, then you are doing something of equivalent complexity to playing a woodwind. If you sing and play a guitar with a neck you whittled yourself out of a chair leg, then you're approximating what it's like to play the oboe.

One of the reasons guitar is such a popular instrument is that it is relatively easy to play and teach at a rudimentary level. But ultimately, mastery of any instrument - including kazoo - is an open-ended pursuit. There is simply no point you can reach where you have nothing left to learn.

[AcidGoethe]

irrational speech lacking in arguments

And your point is?

[Park]

88.9%

[Tayshaun]

88.9%

damn "put you back in place" staring avatar <_<

[lbloom]

http://www.intpcentral.com/uploads/6599c8629bc6e14f40e02a635d404549untitled.JPG

[Tayshaun]

http://www.intpcentral.com/uploads/6599c8629bc6e14f40e02a635d404549untitled.JPG

:shock: Well done!
World-class musical abilities!

[Park]

Sorry Tayshaun.....hey, you could just cheat and take the test a couple of times more :) .

[Mr Pink]

75%, never played an instrument.

[Zero Angel]

http://www.intpcentral.com/uploads/6599c8629bc6e14f40e02a635d404549untitled.JPG
Do you play a musical instrument?

If you got that on your first try, then congrats.

[lbloom]

Yes, that was my only try (and I was pretty groggy, so I expected a pretty crappy score). I played some guitar till I was about 10. I can't do that any more, but I believe I can still read some music.

So I mostly just listen. A lot.

[Zero Angel]

An obvious advantage of knowing how to play the guitar is social. The guitar is a transportable polyphonic instrument (unlike the piano). Therefore, you can bring it along and play in a wide variety of contexts. Learning a polyphonic instrument is really worth it.
Unless your particular guitar gets horribly out of tune whenever you move it 5m from its stand. :rant:

[htb]

88.9 percent.

[Ivy]

88.9 percent correct. I blame my laptop's shitty speakers for not getting over 90%. I couldn't completely hear some of the bassier ones. I'm not being vain-- I really do have an excellent ear. It doesn't translate into technical ability, though.

[Zero Angel]

88.9 percent correct. I blame my laptop's shitty speakers for not getting over 90%. I couldn't completely hear some of the bassier ones. I'm not being vain-- I really do have an excellent ear. It doesn't translate into technical ability, though.
True, and true. I took the test one time before, and got 72%, but I was wearing really shitty headphones (the $2.00 kind) and my roommate was watching a movie in the same room. Re: the technical ability, yeah, you need persistance, creativity, and rhythm (in addition to pitch) to be a good musician. Persistence is probably the most important quality.

[Ivy]

True, and true. I took the test one time before, and got 72%, but I was wearing really shitty headphones (the $2.00 kind) and my roommate was watching a movie in the same room. Re: the technical ability, yeah, you need persistance, creativity, and rhythm (in addition to pitch) to be a good musician. Persistence is probably the most important quality.

Yeah, it's the creativity I lack, I think. And the persistence-- I didn't practice enough when I was a music student.

It's sort of like I can explicate the hell out of a poem, but I couldn't write one to save my life.

[Tayshaun]

Yeah, it's the creativity I lack, I think. And the persistence-- I didn't practice enough when I was a music student.

It's sort of like I can explicate the hell out of a poem, but I couldn't write one to save my life.

From this post it looks like the X in "IXFJ" could be an N!

[Zero Angel]

I thought INFJs were generally known for writing good poetry. Could be an inaccurate stereotype though.

[Tayshaun]

I thought INFJs were generally known for writing good poetry. Could be an inaccurate stereotype though.

I've read in various places that ISFJs were also particularly good at "composing". Keirsey calls them composers for example.

So both INFJ and ISFJ seem to be share that same stereotype.

What gave me the idea of intuition was the fact she seems "musical" but did not have the dedication to practise the redundant stuff (a very S activity). Also, the capacity to interpret a poem in many ways, discern relationships, but lacking the method to write one properly seems particularly N as well.

[Ivy]

I've read in various places that ISFJs were also particularly good at "composing". Keirsey calls them composers for example.

So both INFJ and ISFJ seem to be share that same stereotype.

What gave me the idea of intuition was the fact she seems "musical" but did not have the dedication to practise the redundant stuff (a very S activity). Also, the capacity to interpret a poem in many ways, discern relationships, but lacking the method to write one properly seems particularly N as well.

I've always associated the N with creativity, which I lack.

[int]

Upper 80's here too, but I've been drinking.

I'll try it again sober sometime this week and probably get 66%.

[Jennywocky]

Got a 91.7%.

But I've been playing piano for over 30 years, and my dad was a band director... so it's in the blood, baby... :)

[Might screwed up at the beginning. I wasn't quite sure what was going on until #3 or #4.... and some of it was not just tone differentiation but short-term tonal memory.] [983! 17 to go!]

[Tayshaun]

Got a 91.7%.

But I've been playing piano for over 30 years, and my dad was a band director... so it's in the blood, baby... :)

[Might screwed up at the beginning. I wasn't quite sure what was going on until #3 or #4.... and some of it was not just tone differentiation but short-term tonal memory.] [983! 17 to go!]

Do you enjoy playing jazz?

[s0978]

fun test and interesting discussion!



Moved fr Playground.

[mancroft]

63.9

Dunno nuffink abaht moozik.

[Eldanen]

72.2%. Only thing I've ever played is a plastic flute-thing in-class during fourth grade.

[Zilal]

77.8%, which would suit me. I always had enough music ability for the clueless to tell me I was "good," but not enough to actually do anything with. I used to play the guitar, and I sing in the local chorus (which I just barely made it into).

My audition for choir in college included a similar test. The director would play series of random notes on the piano and we had to sing them back to him. I did fine until the series started getting to 4-5 notes... I wonder if my memory needs more help than my appreciation for tone.

It doesn't matter so much when you're singing an actual piece, of course, since with most composers, each note is a logical next step and "makes sense" from the ones that have gone before it, requiring less of both memory and tone appreciation.

The guitar I love because of its capacity for complexity, and the carryability... I stopped playing because I got nerve damage in my right hand, and so while my left hand can still fly over the strings, I can't do hardly anything with my right. Maybe I should take up the violin!

[I dont post much]

75% ..i listen to music a lot, especially at high volumes. i wonder if that helped or messed up my hearing.

[CyberPanda]

80.6
I've been playing classic guitar for about 3/4 years
not that i'm any good at it...

[CyberPanda]

and isint tone recognition something you gane over time?

[farfegnugen]

75% :<

i think this is more of a test about memory than actual musical ability

[Tayshaun]

and isint tone recognition something you gane over time?

It's something you can practise of course. It's like any activity. Some people will have a head start. Others will catch up and on rare occasions surpass with practise. Some will have so much to catch up (are so naturally hopeless), they will never be great unless they work very hard.

[Google Monster]

73.3, dollarama headphones and crappy sound card! I'm a pro!! woot woot!

[Zero Angel]

I'll see your crappy soundcard and raise you an onboard sound.

[Toonia]

On the tone recognition test 86.1% Correct. It was kinda fun, except those were some really gawd-awful sounds! BLEH!

I'll check to see if there was another one because some of the screen shots posted here were not like the screen display at the end of the test i took.

[Google Monster]

I'll see your crappy soundcard and raise you an onboard sound.
Onboard is what I was refering to! Bam!!!

[Toonia]

Test was difficult (only one hearing of each sample), and humbling.I wouldn't feel too humbled by it if i were you. The test i took (which i assume was the same) was developed by a med student who has written some electronic music, but has no formal training in music pedagogy. It isn't a format i would use with ear-training students primarily because the tone quality is so incredibly low on many of the samples. It is a bit like the attack of the Casio keyboard. (edit: the reason that's relevant is because the distortion in the timbres added an additional element, which should remain consistent between the two examples if cut and pasted, but i'm not 100&#37; sure it did. I thought i noticed some timbral changes, and now wonder if that was part of the test.) I'm going to guess that your experience dealing with nuanced sound of jazz put you in a mindset to try to hear extremely subtle differences between the samples, which is not what the test was measuring - i think it was measuring pitch and rhythm differences only. I chuckled about the over 90% being 'world class'. I've read other research to suggest that 10% of the population has perfect pitch, and it is as likely as not that those individuals will be interested in music. That would suggest that a perfect score places you in the 90th percentile and above, which is by no means 'world class', whatever the heck they mean by that. I don't have perfect pitch, but do have some strangely consistent errors. I 'tend' to be off by a whole step down in some contexts and a fifth in other contexts. Weird stuff. :)

[Tayshaun]

I'm going to guess that your experience dealing with nuanced sound of jazz put you in a mindset to try to hear extremely subtle differences between the samples, which is not what the test was measuring - i think it was measuring pitch and rhythm differences only.

Identifying every note in a melodic line is a valuable asset for any (jazz) musician. To be able to extract as much "juice" as possible when listening to a solo and improving your own solo vocabulary, it's vital to develop your "musical memory" which was tested there. A musician can play very fast and enter "exotic" harmonies. Most of the ear training I've had for melodic lines consisted in recognizing the harmony (major, minor melodic, minor harmonic, half step-whole step, Neapolitan, etc.) and the scale/mode (dorian, lydian, myxolydian, aeolian, superlocrian, etc.) and finally deducing the notes rather than copy-pasting a musical phrase. That's why it was humbling. I realized that despite my knowledge in theory and harmony, I was powerless in front of a melodic line I could only hear once and not have time to analyse by my usual means.

The tests I'm more accustomed too are about recognizing chords, harmonic progressions, harmonic intervals and modes. Melodic intervals for two notes, the easiest ear training exercise, is usually what people start with in jazz ear training.


I don't have perfect pitch, but do have some strangely consistent errors. I 'tend' to be off by a whole step down in some contexts and a fifth in other contexts. Weird stuff. :)

It's quite common to hear the ascending fifth of a note. When you hear a note with a frequency f and listen carefully, you can hear the first harmonics 2f, 3f of a note. 2f corresponds to the octave and 3f corresponds to the fifth (above the octave). If the timbre of the used sound allows it, the fifth can be very clearly heard. It's very easy to hear the fifth with a bell for example. The whole tone down is more suprising! :)

[Tayshaun]

The med student added a pitch perception test there (http://tonometric.com/adaptivepitch/)

[porcelina]

I got 86.1%. I've never been good at reading music, mostly because it required me to, you know, practice and study. I can play by ear pretty well, though.

[outofband]

:peep: </lurk>

Interesting tests. I played the Piano briefly around 15 years ago but haven't touched an instrument since. I love music and listen to it all the time though.

Pitch: 88.9%
Tone: 0.75hz
Rhythm: 88%

[Tayshaun]

:peep: </lurk>

Interesting tests. I played the Piano briefly around 15 years ago but haven't touched an instrument since. I love music and listen to it all the time though.

Pitch: 88.9%
Tone: 0.75hz
Rhythm: 88%

Those are solid results lurker.

[composer]

83.3&#37;

[Xenophon]

80.6

That test seemed to be more about memory than anything. I'm pretty sure that the ones I got wrong were just because my short term memory completely sucks.

[outofband]

Those are solid results lurker.

Thanks. I was quite surprised as I found them difficult. I second guessed some of the answers after I'd submitted them. One or two of the pitch ones were guesses almost, and I had to repeat them a couple of times. Heh, maybe I fluked it. :huh:


That test seemed to be more about memory than anything.



The test you are about to take was used as a screening test to roughly characterize patient?s pitch discrimination and musical memory abilities. Even though musical memory is strongly tested here, we have found that people who are tonedeaf tend to have normal musical memories.

So in short, I think it is a test of your brain's ability to record (memorise) and recall detail in a musical sequence. Tone deaf people simply record less information, less of the detail. Therefore similar sequences of music sound alike, and are much more difficult to distinguish.

[dubbeltop]

2 test your musical future :headphone:

http://jakemandell.com/tonedeaf/

I scored 47,2% which is not very good but you have to listen several times and in a silent room..

I was inspired by this test because I was looking for a hearing test because I like music and I like to know when people sneak up behind me before they are actually behind me :joft: + :frypan: =:P ,and sometimes I have this spasm where 'I look with my ears' usually when I am very tired or watched a kung fu movie....mmh

Have fun

[trapstar]

80.6&#37;

[Gala]

52.8

[ryan_m_parr]

72.2&#37; ~ I have tinnitus, and am using crappy headphones. I may retake this and post a follow-up

[LastRailway]

83.3&#37; Correct
Funny, I thought I 'd suck at this

[Stoned_Rider]

Merged similar threads.

[Colonel Panic]

86.1

I'd also like to note that I am a musician :P

[Zero Angel]

I've looked at all the tests on the site and scored the following:

Pitch Perception: 4.05hz (16th percentile)
Rhythm: 88&#37; Correct (92nd Percentile)
Tone Recognition: 91.2% Correct

I have been playing the guitar for about 2 1/2 years now. And my pitch perception is so poor. I realized that there was something a little bit off, but now I know exactly what it is! :)

[Niffer]

75&#37;

*sobs*

[Kaveri]

I've been accepted at a music institute twice, have attended choire and studied theory of music, and I sing as a hobby.

In choire I had some trouble remembering the second and third voices that I was supposed to sing, because the choirmaster only played them a couple of times and thought that everyone could remember the melody after that or could read notes prima vista, and then we were supposed to already mix the first, second and third voices. That was very difficult for me.

Tonedeaf test: 78.8

I expected a score around 75 because I really wasn't sure about many of my answers. I think that I could reach 80 if I tried harder. I'll try taking the test some other time again.

<edit> I already retook the test, this time closing my eyes and concentrating more (the first time I took the test I was a bit preoccupied).

New result: 80.6

Phew. </edit>

Then the rhythm test. Am good at dancing and rhythm is more important to me than melody.

Rhythm: 80.0
<edit> ...at another try 84.0 </edit>

Then pitch. I'm better at tuning a guitar than many people that I know. I'm often afraid of singing off-tune and notice slight, disturbing off-notes in my own voice, as well as Avril Lavigne's x).

Pitch perception: 0.45 Hz
<edit> ...after retaking 0.30 Hz whee </edit>

*

Overall, I'm a bit disappointed in my results. I need some practice.

[V Profane]

75&#37;. I've had no musical training or practise.

[Xenolith]

tone deaf test 91.7&#37;
rhythm test 80% (meh)
pitch test 2.7Hz

I have minimum musical training (a couple of piano lessons), I have a piano at home and I do music composition (electronica, especially trance)

it's funny when you start imagining pitch differences, I started to have trouble at 1.5Hz, although it may be my speakers and eq

I may be able to get a higher score if I concentrated harder

[Robobenny]

80.6%, and I play tuba and bass guitar.

[LowEnd]

Tonedeaf: 83.3, not too bad at all.

Rhythm: 88, darn good

Pitch Perception: 0.675Hz, pretty dam good.


Could say I'm pretty happy with that. :headphone:


I love my music

[Deadbolt]

75&#37;.

What I did find interesting about the results was that I never thought something was the same when it was in fact different. All my errors were thinking there was a difference when there wasn't. So I guess I'm just paranoid.

Also I've played music since I was very young and consider myself proficient at 3 different instruments.

[cursorial]

I got about 70 the first time, but there was a lot of noise outside, so I redid it and got 86.1.

I play guitar, but not very well - but I am good at listening to a song and working out how to play it. Self-taught for 5 or so years.

[vulcan]

83.3% Correct

took 2 months of piano lessons and 3 weeks of sax.

i listen to music constantly and always have a song in my head, however.

[jennie]

I got a disappointing 72.2&#37; correct, considering I've played piano since I was like, four. I did slack off a lot though...

[squirrel]

What I did find interesting about the results was that I never thought something was the same when it was in fact different. All my errors were thinking there was a difference when there wasn't. So I guess I'm just paranoid.

Same here... I clicked "different" for the first ten or so, before I heard one that was obviously different... I was hearing differences that weren't there I think.

(69.4% BTW... despite 16 years of some form of music education and good ear training)

[MadamI'madaM]

I got 69.whatever on the phrase test

but I took the adaptive pitch test and went from 24 Hz to 1.4 in 5 tries

No music since grade school, and very little then

[zserf]

On one of the other tests on that site I scored in the 16th percentile the first time and the 60th percentile the second.

[Spring]

77.8% Correct

Although it did take me awhile to know what I was suppose to be looking for.

[Humanophage]

That's one nice set of tests. Full of rather pretty tunes, too.

Tonedeaf (http://jakemandell.com/tonedeaf/): 72&#37; (Average)
Rhythm (http://tonometric.com/rhythmdeaf/): 80% (Outstanding)
Pitch (http://tonometric.com/adaptivepitch/): 5.4 Hz (Average) - scored a whopping 22.4 at first
AMVI (http://jakemandell.com/amvi/):
Total Score: 85% (Excellent) - got over 90 on my second try with 95 on abstraction
Pitch discrimination: 85.5%
Musical memory: 83.5%
Contour discrimination: 79.5%
Attention: 83.9%
Musical/visual abstraction: 85.3%


I have never played anything at all, not even the piano (well, fooling around with Fruity Loops doesn't count). I can't even read notes, and I am utterly unfamiliar with music theory. That's the most glaring hole in my education. I suppose that's a decent result considering these factors.

[cripple]

77.8&#37; Correct, tonedeaf test.

I took same on those I was unsure of, not sure this was a good move. Also I get distracted with test like these, so I forget to listen. Oh shit, what was just played.

Still I think I did well. Usually dont listen to music, unless reading fiction. I like to play the piano, but almost never do, and can only play a few simple songs. But I can make sounds on it, and this I do more often.

[porcupine]

I got a 75&#37;, the last time I touched an instrument was over 5 years ago in middle school.

[Lucylie]

86.1% Correct.. I wasn't that focused through the first part.

[teleforce]

77.8&#37;

[Humanophage]

There are four more tests there, gentlemen. Please cease focusing on this particular test on which I received a low score.

[cripple]

There are four more tests there, gentlemen. Please cease focusing on this particular test on which I received a low score.
Excactly, try this other one.

Test your associative musical visual intelligence with my new test (http://jakemandell.com/amvi/). A completely new way to measure an often overlooked aspect of intelligence: This test attempts to measure one's ability to associate musical phrases with abstract shapes and symbols.

Extremely easy. I only got one wrong, and was early, so probably just sloppy.

http://www.intpcentral.com/uploads/music_int.jpg

:banana:

[Grrr]

All hail the Queen of ToneDeaf and LameRhythm!
Tonedeaf: 50&#37;
Rhythm test: 48%
Pitch: 13,2

Total Score: 55%
Pitch discrimination: 52.2%
Musical memory: 58%
Contour discrimination: 37.3%
Attention: 55.9%
Musical/visual abstraction: 66.1%

[notjeffgoldblum]

88.9

[teleforce]

77.8%
^that was for tonedeaf

rhythm: 80%

adaptive pitch: 0.825 Hz

AMVI: 90%
pitch discrimination: 89.9%
musical memory: 94.0%
contour discrimination: 81.9%
attention: 88.2%
musical/visual abstraction: 92.1%