Where do you stand? (Political Affiliation)

[Boneca]

What on earth are those Swedes thinking?
Nothing, as usual.I could have become upset by that statement.

The site is kind of relevant to the discussion, even though it is of course very coloured by the writer's opinion (but so is everything in this thread too, so I guess it doesn't matter).

I wonder if mgbradsh got scared off by your signature link, melancholeric? I nearly was too. :D

[mgb]

I wonder if mgbradsh got scared off by your signature link, melancholeric? I nearly was too. :D

Sick pornographer.

[melancholeric]

I could have become upset by that statement.
The point was that I agree with most of the article. I read it a few days ago and I am too tired to reread it now, but it was a response to an article that appeared in The Economist (http://www.economist.com/). I can't find the article from the website though, it might be premium content.



Sick pornographer.
:rofl: :rofl:
I'm getting the impression that Claverhouse is so far the only one who has actually visited the site, and he seemed to like it. Hardly surprising, he has expressed certain fondness for that kind of pictures before. Though his comment about the site might have been a bit sarcastic.

(But Claverhouse could never say anything sarcastic.)

[mgb]

:rofl: :rofl:
I'm getting the impression that Claverhouse is so far the only one who has actually visited the site, and he seemed to like it. Hardly surprising, he has expressed certain fondness for that kind of pictures before. Though his comment about the site might have been a bit sarcastic.

(But Claverhouse could never say anything sarcastic.)

No I went there, it's pretty funny. You are still a pornographer (now I am just being arbitrary).

[wezl]

Econ Lt/Rt: -3.25
Soc Lib/Auth:-2.62

another lower left quadrant. What are the odds?

[melancholeric]

No I went there, it's pretty funny. You are still a pornographer (now I am just being arbitrary).
So what is wrong with pornography? I liked the "wet pussies" section. And "lesbian" and "fetish". Fan-TAST-ic.

/offtopic: some more scary links. Boneca, are you aware of this (http://www.boneca.fi/)?

[Boneca]

/offtopic: some more scary links. Boneca, are you aware of this (http://www.boneca.fi/)?Cool! But why are they called "doll", or does it mean something else?

[melancholeric]

Doll? Did I miss something?

[Boneca]

Doll? Did I miss something?Boneca means doll in Portuguese. That's the only meaning I know of.

By the way, the link in your signature is wrong. We all know that Santa lives in Sweden.

[melancholeric]

Boneca means doll in Portuguese. That's the only meaning I know of.
It's because they use Boron Neutron Capture therapy for treating cancer and the therapy is quite experimental. Thy don't want to use real humans yet. That, or coincidence. ( Incidentally, Portuguese is somewhere very near the top of my list of languages I will learn "some day".)


By the way, the link in your signature is wrong. We all know that Santa lives in Sweden.

No he doesn't. He lives virtually next door to me, which is demonstrated by the vast amounts of presents I get every year.

[Boneca]

No he doesn't. He lives virtually next door to me, which is demonstrated by the vast amounts of presents I get every year.I grew up close to Santa's home. Pff.


His home is usually given as either the North Pole in Canada, in Finnish Lapland at Korvatunturi, Dalecarlia in Sweden, or Caesarea when identified as Saint Basil; traditions vary.I wonder if there are more of them...now, here is a conspiracy theory!

Also, I seem to have a problem staying on topic lately. I wonder what this has to do with politics?

(By the way, Portuguese is even more useless than Finnish. Just thought I should tell you. *looks around for offended Portuguese forum members*)

[melancholeric]

I grew up close to Santa's home. Pff.
No you didn't. I did. Admit it, I am right and you are wrong.


I wonder if there are more of them...now, here is a conspiracy theory!
This must have something to do with The Illuminati, Socrates' execution, The Third Reich and Paul McCartney's death in a car accident in 1966. Not to mention Sudan pharmaceutical plant bombings in 1998.


Also, I seem to have a problem staying on topic lately. I wonder what this has to do with politics?
Because our resident anarchocapitalists and nazis are not posting. Robespierre hasn't posted for a few days now.

(By the way, Portuguese is even more useless than Finnish. Just thought I should tell you. *looks around for offended Portuguese forum members*)
Hmm I thought I'd learn Spanish, after which Portuguese shouldn't be too difficult. I'm under the impression that those are somewhat similar. After learning those off to Latin America this boy hitchhikes....
Sounds like a plan.

HOLY BALLBREAKING MOTHER OF CHRIST AND HER MOTHERFUCKING BASTARD SON I HATE THOSE QUOTE TAGS!!!! I HAD TO PRESS CTRL + V TO PASTE THE /QUOTE TAG AND ACCIDENTALLY HIT CTRL + B THAT TAKES ME (somewhat ironically) TO OPERA KEYBOARD HELP PAGE, AFTER WHICH I HAVE TO HIT BACK AND HOPE THE ENTIRE MESSAGE HASN'T DISAPPEARED INTO CYBERSPACE AND IT'S GETTING ON MY NERVES!!!!!!

[Boneca]

No you didn't. I did. Admit it, I am right and you are wrong. Now, who turned you into an ESTJ? ;)
We are both right. I grew up next to the real Santa, and you live next to the imposter (that was probably put there by that weird Finnish underground movement that propagates "entymological ambiguity through passive-aggressive sardony" as a step towards world domination).

And you know, you should swear in Finnish instead. It looks funnier.

[melancholeric]

Now, who turned you into an ESTJ? ;)
I blame it on my difficult childhood. That's what made Hitler the freak he was. (Exaggarating the words of my high school history teacher.)

We are both right. I grew up next to the real Santa, and you live next to the imposter (that was probably put there by that weird Finnish underground movement that propagates "entymological ambiguity through passive-aggressive sardony" as a step towards world domination).
If that's the case, shouldn't he live in Texas too? They only have Dubya... That leads to the connections to 9/11 and The New American Century. Now I am disillusioned about the true nature of Santa. Or maybe you are wrong.


And you know, you should swear in Finnish instead. It looks funnier.
I'd get banned immediately.

[Ghosteh]

Now, who turned you into an ESTJ? ;)



We're the best tbh

[melancholeric]

Isn't that self-evident?

(I have a hunch that I'm feeding a troll here. Wouldn't be the first time.)

[Lucas]

I thought it would be interesting to see what percentages of people were in which segment of the political spectrum.

I'm a pragmatist. Viva the middle way!

[relaxo]

It is also amazing that you chose some of the poorest provinces to discuss waiting times. Brilliant really. Since health care is administered by the provinces maybe you should write some letters.


Among the provinces, Manitoba achieved the shortest total wait in 2004, 14.8 weeks, with Ontario (15.5 weeks) losing the “best access” province status that it had held since 2000, and Alberta (17.8 weeks) next shortest. Saskatchewan exhibited the longest total wait, 33.3 weeks; the next longest waits were found in Prince Edward Island (27.4 weeks) and New Brunswick (20.9 weeks).

"More than 10,000 nurses and other hospital workers in Ontario are facing layoffs over two years unless the provincial government provides significant funding increases."

"The head of the Ontario Hospital Association said 2,000 hospital staff, including 757 full-time nurses, will lose their jobs this year because the province has ordered hospitals to balance their budgets"

Ontario, we're the richest, and we're running a deficit, and we're more heavily taxed than any US state.

Universal healthcare sucks.

[bmw318tiChic]

Economic Left/Right: -1.50
Social Libertarian/Authoritarian: -1.38

[relaxo]

I wish the political compass test kept track of results. it seems to me the most interesting thing here so far is
1. there are hardly any Top-Right INTPs
2. the large number of bottom-right INTPs

Large numbers of bottom left and top right would be expected given the sites valuation of political parties and personalities.

I wonder why INTPs would have such a heavy showing in bottom right and not top right?

[Nighthawk]

Economic Left/Right: -1.88
Social Libertarian/Authoritarian: -2.92

I was upper right of center during my younger years however. Continuous contact with the nasty real world has has moved me towards the lower left.

Notice that both Left and Libertarian are negative values. Coincidence ... given how we are viewed by society?

[Eileen]

Good Lord. Socialism. Public education. 27-page thread. Oh, my.

I took the test awhile back, and I was in the Gandhi quadrent. Not surprising for an INFJ. I used to be less libertarian than I am now (which is to say, I used to hate libertarianism with a passion, and I hate it less now). Now, I believe in small communities governing themselves with a basically socialist model. Micro-socialism, somebody once called it (in a conversation with me, not in a publication that I know of).

I couldn't possibly read all those posts tonight, but I got the general gist, I think. And I don't think I'll be getting involved. I'm a public school teacher. I believe that the system is a good idea, but that it's currently a disaster--particularly at the high school level. At least in North Carolina, people within the system are trying to make some pretty radical changes to it. I was at a conference yesterday and today about it. It's exciting and also quite scary. We'll see what happens.

[Nyairj]

Economic Left/Right: -4.50
Social Libertarian/Authoritarian: -5.03

I had to take this test for a class when I was going to college in Alabama (there are colleges in Alabama, too), and I was the only outlier... except for a few fascists, I think.

[MacGuffin]

I wonder why INTPs would have such a heavy showing in bottom right and not top right?

I expect INTPs to almost always lean towards anarchism vs. facism. INTPs don't value tradition and authority without reason. So I expect most INTPs to fall on the bottom half of the chart.

As to the bottom right - that represents the libertarian section. I fall in that area. I am surprised there are not more INTPs in that section. Seems strange that one can mistrust authority in terms of civil liberties and yet accept authority in the economic arena.

I mistrust government in both areas. I also mistrust large business too (and I am an environmentalist), so I am closer to the collectivism side than I thought I would be.

Government is a neccessary, evil is not the best word, let's say inconvience. I don't trust it with my rights or my checkbook.

[Dman]

I mistrust government in both areas. I also mistrust large business too (and I am an environmentalist), so I am closer to the collectivism side than I thought I would be.

Government is a neccessary, evil is not the best word, let's say inconvience. I don't trust it with my rights or my checkbook.

Government is like big business - there's nothing wrong with it if you're at the top.

[Killsteel]

I expect INTPs to almost always lean towards anarchism vs. facism. INTPs don't value tradition and authority without reason. So I expect most INTPs to fall on the bottom half of the chart.

As to the bottom right - that represents the libertarian section. I fall in that area. I am surprised there are not more INTPs in that section. Seems strange that one can mistrust authority in terms of civil liberties and yet accept authority in the economic arena.

I mistrust government in both areas. I also mistrust large business too (and I am an environmentalist), so I am closer to the collectivism side than I thought I would be.

Government is a neccessary, evil is not the best word, let's say inconvience. I don't trust it with my rights or my checkbook.

But a corporation is simply a government (or authority) that you didn't elect and would rip you off if it could get away with it.

[Sackanaka]

Economic Left/Right: -4.50
Social Libertarian/Authoritarian: -3.44

does the test take into account variable interpretations of the questions like
"There are no savage and civilised peoples; there are only different cultures."
cuz I know for a fact that several idiots (dubbed the frat boys) are very savage and uncivilized.
or "Abstract art that doesn't represent anything shouldn't be considered art at all."
if it's not representing something then wtf is it, air? Since it said "doesn't represent anything" I assume it's something intangible and nonperceivable, thus I agreed.

[MacGuffin]

But a corporation is simply a government (or authority) that you didn't elect and would rip you off if it could get away with it.

Not really. I am confused as to why you would say coporations are government or authorities. They cannot compel you to obey them by rule of law.

They can be abusive monopolies, but most corporations do not fall into that category.


"Abstract art that doesn't represent anything shouldn't be considered art at all."
if it's not representing something then wtf is it, air? Since it said "doesn't represent anything" I assume it's something intangible and nonperceivable, thus I agreed.

If it doesn't represent anything it is open to your interpretation. I would think an xNxP would jump at that. Use your imagination! I strongly disagreed with that statement.

[mgb]

Not really. I am confused as to why you would say coporations are government or authorities. They cannot compel you to obey them by rule of law.

They can be abusive monopolies, but most corporations do not fall into that category.



If it doesn't represent anything it is open to your interpretation. I would think an xNxP would jump at that. Use your imagination! I strongly disagreed with that statement.

I can see it. A great example was corporations buying the rights to all the water in a town in Bolivia. They bought everything, including rain water (I don't know, doens't make sense to me either) and charged people a fotune for it. The people ended up revolting, but it was pretty harry for a while.

Corporations can "force" you to do something by being the only game in town. Or corporations can use their massive influence to urge the government to do something that benefits them at the expensive of individuals. They don't even have to be monopolies to do that. Just have the right kind of power. Deregulation and privatization of utilities is a good example. Where I live, utility bills have gone up a lot in the past few years because of deregulation. It's either pay them or freeze.

[melancholeric]

They bought everything, inclucing rain water (I don't know, doens't make sense to me either)
I'm sure Robespierre could explain, but he hasn't been around much lately. Do we have other anarchists around?

[nobarcode]

does the test take into account variable interpretations of the questions like
"There are no savage and civilised peoples; there are only different cultures."....etc

I have the same problem with over 50% of the questions on that test. The questions assume too much.
For example, the very first one:

If economic globalisation is inevitable, it should primarily serve humanity rather than the interests of trans-national corporations.
Well yes, it should, but nowhere in history has that ever happened.


My irrelavant results:
Economic Left/Right: -0.13
Social Libertarian/Authoritarian -3.03

[andthesunburnedouttonight]

Top left:

Economic Left/Right: -1.25
Social Libertarian/Authoritarian: 3.59

I'm also an evangelical Christian who voted for President Bush. Now look who's the individual!

[misutii]

Top left:

Economic Left/Right: -1.25
Social Libertarian/Authoritarian: 3.59

I'm also an evangelical Christian who voted for President Bush. Now look who's the individual!


umm i hardly think that being an evangelical christian who voted for bush makes you any more of an individual than anyone else, in fact, i'm pretty sure most evangelical christians did vote for bush considering that's the population his rhetoric was aimed at.

i took this a while ago i got like

Economic -2
Libertarian -4 or 5

[sbw]

ECONOMIC: 6.5
SOCIAL: -3.9

I AM milton friedman! (dot is in the same place.) I'm quite sincerely so proud...

Scott

[MacGuffin]

umm i hardly think that being an evangelical christian who voted for bush makes you any more of an individual than anyone else, in fact, i'm pretty sure most evangelical christians did vote for bush considering that's the population his rhetoric was aimed at.

I think you missed his point. He is an economic lefty that voted for a righty capitalist.

[andthesunburnedouttonight]

I think you missed his point. He is an economic lefty that voted for a righty capitalist.No, my point was that I am an individual among the likes of you guys.

[earwax]

Economic Left/Right: -3.38
Social Libertarian/Authoritarian: -5.54

Just a bit to the right of the Dalai Lama...

Ok, I'll take that.

[raincrow007]

Economic Left/Right: -5.88
Social Libertarian/Authoritarian: -5.33

And the questions sucked. :P

[Helios]

Responding with anything short of shock and horror at "All people have their rights, but it is better for all of us that different sorts of people should keep to their own kind."

should generate some sort of electric shock thru your mouse or something! Otherwise I am the picture of mediocrity, Economic Left/Right: -1.75
Social Libertarian/Authoritarian: -1.33

and so I'll close by saying..................ok, whatever

[Hawkon]

hmm, I thought I was top left, looks like I'm bottom left...

Economic Left/Right: -6.13
Social Libertarian/Authoritarian: -2.10

[coffeezombie]

Economic Left/Right: -7.88
Social Libertarian/Authoritarian: -7.95

[Chall T. Dow]

Eh, I was bottom left. I forgot to get the numbers, but it was ~-2.5,-1.7 (I think).

Chall T. Dow

[cathmc]

Your political compass
Economic Left/Right: -5.88
Social Libertarian/Authoritarian: -5.74

Down there with Ghandi.

[Combat]

Economic Left/Right: -7.63
Social Libertarian/Authoritarian: -8.31

[jimore]

Somewhere to the left of Ted Kennedy, sorta like MLK without the Jesus stuff.

[cwazyonyx]

Your political compass
Economic Left/Right: -0.75
Social Libertarian/Authoritarian: -4.67

[Star Cannon]

Your political compass
Economic Left/Right: -5.13
Social Libertarian/Authoritarian: -1.90

The government's role in society is the management of resources, maintenence of public facilities, protecting the masses from few and the few from the masses...

[aether]

Economic Left/Right: -2.38
Social Libertarian/Authoritarian: -2.26

:cool:

[Dom]

hehehe I'm gandhi! and i'm british! lol

Economic Left/Right: -5.75
Social Libertarian/Authoritarian: -3.74

[Park]

Economic Left/Right: -2.25
Social Libertarian/Authoritarian: -5.08

[Ellipsis]

Economic Left/Right: -7.25
Social Libertarian/Authoritarian: -7.59

Wow...I am pretty much the exct opposite of Georage W no wonder why we disagree alot...

Some one probly said it already but wow alot of INTPs sure are on the bottom left...

[Superstring]

Too bad Ghandi is so popular here :whistle: Milton Friedman was the man..

[MasterMerk]

Good Lord. Socialism. Public education. 27-page thread. Oh, my.

I took the test awhile back, and I was in the Gandhi quadrent. Not surprising for an INFJ. I used to be less libertarian than I am now (which is to say, I used to hate libertarianism with a passion, and I hate it less now). Now, I believe in small communities governing themselves with a basically socialist model. Micro-socialism, somebody once called it (in a conversation with me, not in a publication that I know of).


The first use of the word "libertarian" dates back to 19th century France (libertarian was taken from the french word "libertaire", which was synonymous with anarchist) where it implied some sort of anarcho-communism - which is basically what you are describing here - no overarching state, co-operative organisation on the communal level as to avoid heirarchy (state or capitalist in nature) in the hopes of bolstering individual freedoms and barring against the exploitation of workers.

Strangely, when "libertarian" was transplanted to America, something was lost in translation. In the USA it has been synonymous with the unregulatory right-wing. Pro-capitalist, realtively free market with low state intervention and high social freedoms, and so on. It seems a lot of people are confusing scores in the bottom left of this test as libertarian - but in actuality, that would be the bottom right. If you read the page, it states that the bottom left fits the anarcho-syndicalist mold. The only place where this form of social organisation achieved a foothold was in the brief Spanish revolution - which you can read about here (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Spanish_Revolution).

Anyway, I retook the test and got -
Economic Left/Right: -8.63
Social Libertarian/Authoritarian: -9.38

[Heleuiski]

Bottom Left.
I'm on Ghandi's team.

[demagogic_schizoid]

Bottom right.

[macr0]

Just another Gandhian.

[cafe]

Your political compass

Economic Left/Right: -5.38
Social Libertarian/Authoritarian: -1.90

[aeon]

Economic Left/Right: -3.88
Social Libertarian/Authoritarian: -7.90


cheers,
Ian

[Ferrus]

Your political compass
Economic Left/Right: -5.88
Social Libertarian/Authoritarian: -5.33

[messk]

Another Gandhian. I feel... not special.

[LuridLemur]

Bottom, very slightly left.

[Dumpy]

Economic Left/Right: -2.75
Social Libertarian/Authoritarian: -6.77

Closer to the Dalai Lama than Ghandi.

[Neppy]

I took that test a long time ago.

My result?

0.00
0.00

I was in the fucking MIDDLE.

*facepalms*

[Pooja]

Your political compass
Economic Left/Right: -1.50
Social Libertarian/Authoritarian: -2.99

[Carebear]

Economic Left/Right: -7.38
Social Libertarian/Authoritarian: -6.92

Bottom left, like the rest.

[Nemesis]

Economic Left/Right: -2.13
Social Libertarian/Authoritarian: -6.26

It appears I've gone a little bit to the left and even farther towards libertarianism than last time.

[Melchiora]

Left/Right: -1.25
Libertarian/Authoritarian: -5.64

I've remained constant on the L/A scale, but my L/R has shifted dramatically to the right since I started paying income taxes and have been in charge of my own finances.

[INTrePid]

Your political compass
Economic Left/Right: -0.38
Social Libertarian/Authoritarian: -0.62

[Stoned_Rider]

Bottom, very slightly left.

Ditto.

[EmmaPeel]

Economic Left/Right: -.75
Social Libertarian/Authoritarian: -1.14

[AMDG]

Here's a thread about political affiliation that's a little more inclusive to the non-Americans among us. Regardless of what party you support, vote for or belong to, this test (http://www.politicalcompass.org/questionnaire) promises to tell where your true affiliations lie!

Which corner did you come into, and how far along the axes were you?
What did you think of your result?

[Jennywocky]

Here's a thread about political affiliation that's a little more inclusive to the non-Americans among us.

Crazy brit, it's about time you aligned yourself with the only culture that matters! Mua ha ha!

(And switch back to the English measurement system for good measure, you traitors, instead of fawning around with the metric system.)

[Fingers]

http://www.intpcentral.com/forums/showthread.php?t=1692&page=1&pp=10

[Shimpei]

Erroneous poll options: you entered social left-wing, economic conservative twice. The same is with the other option.
I'd pick social left-wing, economic liberal. Or is that totally impossible? We have such a government over here.

[AMDG]

Damn. Hahaha... oh well. Never mind. Disregard entire thread and call me Lord Incompetent Noob from henceforth! :rofl:

EDIT - no, wait, that thread was a really long time ago and the last post was before I joined. How was I s'posed to know? :puppy:

EDIT II - *commits sepuku*

[sandwich]

Could I be right wing and conservative?

[Lurker]

Damn. Hahaha... oh well. Never mind. Disregard entire thread and call me Lord Incompetent Noob from henceforth! :rofl:

EDIT - no, wait, that thread was a really long time ago and the last post was before I joined. How was I s'posed to know? :puppy:

EDIT II - *commits sepuku*

Continue this thread! You're stuck between a rock and a hard place: you can either be accused of creating a redundant thread or necromancing an old thread.

Besides, I want to post my results. :)

[AMDG]

Continue this thread! You're stuck between a rock and a hard place: you can either be accused of creating a redundant thread or necromancing an old thread.

Besides, I want to post my results. :)

Well sure, but we need someone to edit the poll - can I do it or do we need a mod? Help! :referee:

[AMDG]

Crazy brit, it's about time you aligned yourself with the only culture that matters! Mua ha ha!

(And switch back to the English measurement system for good measure, you traitors, instead of fawning around with the metric system.)

Oy, I just noticed this! Calling me a Brit again, are we? :dont:

I'll have you know I was born and bred with the only measurement system that makes any sense*. :froginbereticon:

EDIT - *which, by the way, the Brits only pretend they use to annoy Americans. They label everything with it, but verbally, everyone still talks in Imperial measurements in the UK. Tell them you weigh 68kg and you're 1.8m tall and watch the eyes glaze over!

[Lurker]

Economic Left: -7.63
Social Libertarian: -5.74

[MacGuffin]

Merged.

[AMDG]

Merged.

Thanks :blush:

[songbird36]

I've always voted centre-right. Suppose that lines me up with Attila the Hun (a fellow INTJ) :)

[AMDG]

It'd be interesting to try to place historical figures on this graph. It'd be difficult, too. Take some of the medieval feudal monarchs for example - very authoritarian in some ways, and yet very permissive and laissez-faire as to individual communities running their own affairs. As long as people paid their taxes on time and did their military service, they didn't seem too bothered about what else they got up to.

[Dark Razor]

Your political compass
Economic Left/Right: -6.00
Social Libertarian/Authoritarian: -3.08

Meh, they only have two historical figures for the libertarian axis of the graph. I seem almost the same as Mandela though.

[HilbertSpace]

Your political compass
Economic Left/Right: 8.75
Social Libertarian/Authoritarian: -2.51

Lines up almost perfectly with Milton Friedman.

[lbloom]

Bottom, slightly left.

Economic Left/Right: -0.25
Social Libertarian/Authoritarian: -5.38

Other tests have put me slightly right of center too, so I think I'm an economic centrist.

[Robobenny]

Far bottom, far left:

Economic Left/Right: -8.88
Social Libertarian/Authoritarian: -9.28

I identify as an Anarchist.

[outmywindow]

-1.12; -4.97.

I've yet to encounter a political candidate that I actually agree with on a majority of issues.

[Henry]

Economic Left/Right: -4.75
Social Libertarian/Authoritarian: -4.87

Although sometimes I think I'm more of a Red Tory (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Red_Tory).

[TaylorS]

Economic Left/Right: -8.50
Social Libertarian/Authoritarian: -5.54

[Karl]

My score was close to the one above this post.

[nfinityi]

I fall at the top, directly in the center.

[5h4rk]

i am bottom right and i really dont understand how the majority can be in the bottom left.

bottom right = social and economically liberal. people can chose what they want to do with their lives and money

bottom left = socially libearal. but for some reason when it comes to money the state is best to decide on what people can spend it on...


it just doesnt make sense to me that peoples logic can lead them to believe the bottom left is ideal. can someone explain this to me?

[Hexchild]

i am bottom right and i really dont understand how the majority can be in the bottom left.

bottom right = social and economically liberal. people can chose what they want to do with their lives and money

bottom left = socially libearal. but for some reason when it comes to money the state is best to decide on what people can spend it on...


it just doesnt make sense to me that peoples logic can lead them to believe the bottom left is ideal. can someone explain this to me?

This test places me in the bottom left, but I hate it when people's individual choices of spending are controlled by the government. Which means either you have the wrong idea about what the bottom left is, or the test made a grave error in my case.

[5h4rk]

according to wikipedia this is what the horizontal axis is -
"The Economic (Left-Right) axis measures one's opinion of how the economy should be run: "left" is defined as the view that the economy should be run by a cooperative collective agency (which can mean the state, but can also mean a network of communes), while "right" is defined as the view that the economy should be left to the devices of competing individuals and organisations."

right = me = pro free market

[5h4rk]

i would have thought that anyone who prefers the concept of individualism over collectivism (i would expect most INTP's) would be both down and right on this graph.

being down and left still doesnt make sense to me...

[bluebell]

Bottom left corner here too.

Economic Left/Right: -5.88
Social Libertarian/Authoritarian: -4.31

[Madrigal]

Protest.

[Dark Razor]

Now that this thread got resurrected I need to update my scores, even if the test is rather flawed.

http://www.politicalcompass.org/facebook/pcgraphpng.php?ec=-8.00&soc=-0.97

[Limey]

Now that this thread got resurrected I need to update my scores, even if the test is rather flawed.


I thought you leaned toward pink.

EDIT:
I was one click down and 3.5 to the right of yours BTW
Economic Left/Right: -4.38
Social Libertarian/Authoritarian: -2.10

[Dark Razor]

I thought you leaned toward pink.



It would seem like that, but remember that the top/down axis only meassures social authoritarianism, so if I answer all the sexuality question with strongly agree/disagree in favour of individual choice (since I think the state has no buisness with this), then this already places me close to the libertarian quarter (not sure how the questions about religion factor into this).

Also keep in mind that being left on the economic scale is itself a meassurement of authoritarianism, since people who score to the left usually think that the State should partly or completely control the economy and thereby restricts "economic freedom" of the individual.

[Mya]

Economic Left/Right: -3.75
Social Libertarian/Authoritarian: -5.85

I'm an anarchist. Totally.

[JJ_5000]

Economic Left/Right: -6.88
Social Libertarian/Authoritarian: -0.51

[dissident]

fairly close to athman, the second reply in this thread on page 1.. always test within that range. (-2,-2)

[RottenApple]

Someone should build a little Flash application where we can plug in our scores...and show an overview of INTPcentral's political bias.

Maybe I'll give it a stab if I can find some time over the next few weeks.

[zserf]

Economic Left/Right: -3.50
Social Libertarian/Authoritarian: -7.44

[Mastermind]

Economic Left/Right: -9.75
Social Libertarian/Authoritarian: -9.49

No one need to care about personal things, but the economy does have an effect on all of us, and is therefore something everybody has something to do with.

[puzzled-observer]

I remember taking this, i think i landed right on Thomas Jefferson.

[Sarcasticus]

I'm down in Dalai Lama territory. And based on the poll results it looks like I have lots of company.

[Otsoga]

Economic Left/Right: -7.25
Social Libertarian/Authoritarian: -5.28

[rawr]

Economic Left/Right: 6.12
Social Libertarian/Authoritarian: -2.00

:devil:

[RedFox]

Economic Left/Right: -4.75
Social Libertarian/Authoritarian: -2.87

[msg_v2]

Economic Left/Right: -6.75
Social Libertarian/Authoritarian: -8.31

Wow, what a surprise.

[ebolaRETURNS]

Severe libertarian left.
something like:
social: -9.8
economic: -9.5

[david]

Economic Left/Right: -3.88
Social Libertarian/Authoritarian: -5.38

Pretty close to the Dalai Lama. That's insane how the vast majority of people here are bottom left.

[murkrow]

Economic Left/Right: 7.25
Social Libertarian/Authoritarian: -5.64

[ghost]

Economic Left/Right: -6.75
Social Libertarian/Authoritarian: -7.85