charred_heart
16 Dec 2006, 06:37 AM
Mohammed Splitting the Moon in Two
"The demand of the pagans to the Prophet to show them a miracle. The Prophet showed them the splitting of the moon. Narrated ?Abdullah bin Massud: During the lifetime of the Prophet the moon was split into two parts and on that the Prophet said, ?Bear witness (to this).?" Bukhari vol.4 book 56 ch.26 and vol.4 book 56 no.830 p.533.
"Narrated Anas that the Meccan people requested Allah?s Apostle to show them a miracle, and so he showed them the splitting of the moon." Bukhari vol.4 book 56 no.831 p.533.
"Narrated Ibn ?Abbas: The moon was split into two parts during the lifetime of the Prophet." Bukhari vol.4 book 56 no.832 p.534.
Splitting the moon. Bukhari vol.6 book 60 no.290 and footnote 1 p.273; vol.6 book 60 no.387-391 p.365-366; vol.6 book 60 no.345,349,368-370 p.331,336
Splitting the moon Sahih Muslim vol.4 book 37 no.6721,6724-6730 p.1467-1468
Sura 54:1 says, "The Hour (of Judgment) is nigh, and the moon was cleft asunder. (Yusuf ?Ali revised edition).
Note that cleft asunder means the mean was split in half, and the verb here is past tense. We have no records of any other people in the world, including close-by Egypt, Syria, or Persia that saw the moon split in two. The Qur?an and hadiths do not say how it got back together either.
Yusuf ?Ali in footnote 5128 says, "Three explanations are given in the Mufradat, and perhaps all three apply here: (1) that the moon once appeared cleft asunder in the valley of Makkah within sight of the Prophet, his Companions, and some Unbelievers; (2) that the prophetic past tense indicates the future, the cleaving asunder of the moon being a Sign of the Judgment approaching; and (3) that the phrase is metaphorical, meaning that the matter has become clear as the moon. That the first was noticed by contemporaries, including Unbelievers, is clear from verse 2. The second is an incident of the disruption of the solar system at the New Creation: Cf. lxxv. 8-9."
http://www.muslimhope.com/AstronomyAndTheQuran.htm
I was shocked a site so many reference has these kinds of translations. 'Splitting of the moon' is an expression that refers to the eclipse.
Then, on how the Quran states that iron came from space:
Of course, such an interpretation, which presupposes the truth of the evolutionary bases which underlie the scientific theory, flatly contradicts the instantaneous creation taught by the Qur?an (Surah 2:117) where Allah says, ?Be! And it is.?
it can be just as easily said that God made evolution or any process to come to existence with a command. Command is a metaphor, as are the other stories where God creates beings and planets - a reference to bringing about an action with no effort exerted. Every muslim is taught that no human can fathom how God creates, taking these things literally would contradict with that. It would be like saying "I KNOW how God created the universe". The stories centering on creation only indicate how certain things came to exist - not how they were made.
The fact still remains that in Chapter 57, Verse 25, God (according to the prophet Mohammed) stated that iron is not of this planet and that it came from space.
From now on, if I'm discussing Islam it will be on the core beliefs of the religion. Someone bringing me some story they saw on the internet, I'll pass.
"The demand of the pagans to the Prophet to show them a miracle. The Prophet showed them the splitting of the moon. Narrated ?Abdullah bin Massud: During the lifetime of the Prophet the moon was split into two parts and on that the Prophet said, ?Bear witness (to this).?" Bukhari vol.4 book 56 ch.26 and vol.4 book 56 no.830 p.533.
"Narrated Anas that the Meccan people requested Allah?s Apostle to show them a miracle, and so he showed them the splitting of the moon." Bukhari vol.4 book 56 no.831 p.533.
"Narrated Ibn ?Abbas: The moon was split into two parts during the lifetime of the Prophet." Bukhari vol.4 book 56 no.832 p.534.
Splitting the moon. Bukhari vol.6 book 60 no.290 and footnote 1 p.273; vol.6 book 60 no.387-391 p.365-366; vol.6 book 60 no.345,349,368-370 p.331,336
Splitting the moon Sahih Muslim vol.4 book 37 no.6721,6724-6730 p.1467-1468
Sura 54:1 says, "The Hour (of Judgment) is nigh, and the moon was cleft asunder. (Yusuf ?Ali revised edition).
Note that cleft asunder means the mean was split in half, and the verb here is past tense. We have no records of any other people in the world, including close-by Egypt, Syria, or Persia that saw the moon split in two. The Qur?an and hadiths do not say how it got back together either.
Yusuf ?Ali in footnote 5128 says, "Three explanations are given in the Mufradat, and perhaps all three apply here: (1) that the moon once appeared cleft asunder in the valley of Makkah within sight of the Prophet, his Companions, and some Unbelievers; (2) that the prophetic past tense indicates the future, the cleaving asunder of the moon being a Sign of the Judgment approaching; and (3) that the phrase is metaphorical, meaning that the matter has become clear as the moon. That the first was noticed by contemporaries, including Unbelievers, is clear from verse 2. The second is an incident of the disruption of the solar system at the New Creation: Cf. lxxv. 8-9."
http://www.muslimhope.com/AstronomyAndTheQuran.htm
I was shocked a site so many reference has these kinds of translations. 'Splitting of the moon' is an expression that refers to the eclipse.
Then, on how the Quran states that iron came from space:
Of course, such an interpretation, which presupposes the truth of the evolutionary bases which underlie the scientific theory, flatly contradicts the instantaneous creation taught by the Qur?an (Surah 2:117) where Allah says, ?Be! And it is.?
it can be just as easily said that God made evolution or any process to come to existence with a command. Command is a metaphor, as are the other stories where God creates beings and planets - a reference to bringing about an action with no effort exerted. Every muslim is taught that no human can fathom how God creates, taking these things literally would contradict with that. It would be like saying "I KNOW how God created the universe". The stories centering on creation only indicate how certain things came to exist - not how they were made.
The fact still remains that in Chapter 57, Verse 25, God (according to the prophet Mohammed) stated that iron is not of this planet and that it came from space.
From now on, if I'm discussing Islam it will be on the core beliefs of the religion. Someone bringing me some story they saw on the internet, I'll pass.