Famous INTP women

[Anacaona]

Do you know any famous women who were INTPs? :mellow: I only know of Marie Curie...

[Avengardh]

Perhaps Ada Byron? I am not sure about that one though.

[Utopmk]

Emily Procter, Shannen Doherty, Diane Lane, Dr. Susan Lewis.

[Claverhouse]

Well, being new to this typing stuff, I couldn't name any famous male INTPs: and I'm certainly not sure how anyone can identify a past figure by type; historical records aren't the best way to delve into psychology...

But I'd like it if our Great King, ( GB ), Charles I was an INTP ! His enemies were fairly extrovert...



Claverhouse

[nobarcode]

I know Emily Procter (http://www.emilyprocter.com/) from CSI:Miami. They claim on some site that she is an INTP, but I can't verify it. I keep meaning to ask her if she knows anything about it.

*edit* spell check? :huh:

[Johnny]

It's tough to find famous people with an INTP preference regardless, so don't be discouraged if you find only a handful to look up to.

On the male side, we're already having to dig hard into the past, going so far back as to Ancient Greece's Socrates to give Tiger Woods his handful of support.

[Claverhouse]

Emily Procter, Shannen Doherty, Diane Lane, Dr. Susan Lewis.

Apart from Miss Doherty, whom I have heard of but never really noticed, who are the rest ?



Claverhouse :ph34r:

[Division56]

I heard the SJs on Charmed ran poor Shannen off the show. She was so much better than Rose McGowan too.

Not that Rose isn't good, she's done some very nice indie filcks.

[Vagabond]

Hm. Holly Marie Combs doesn't look like an SJ to me... <_< On the other hand, I never liked Shannen Doherty - too bitchy for my taste, she always pissed me off.

[Utopmk]

Hm. Holly Marie Combs doesn't look like an SJ to me... Dry Look On the other hand, I never liked Shannen Doherty - too bitchy for my taste, she always pissed me off.

Shannen Doherty is an actor, it is her job to act like a bitch.

[CeSoirNoir]

I've heard that Meryl Streep is an INTP...I must have seen it on a website..

[Utopmk]

Heres a scary one:

Ashley and Mary Kate Olsen (The Full House twins)

[Vagabond]

Shannen Doherty is an actor, it is her job to act like a bitch.
LOL, you don't say 8O I do admit peeking in "that kind of columns" sometimes, and I don't like the profile she promotes of herself. At all. I don't really care if it is real or purely for publicity. But anyways - it is a matter of taste... subjective...

[Division56]

Vaga, do not tell me you watch Charmed. :lol: :D

[Vagabond]

Hm, guilty as charged :D

[Division56]

Me too. I had 120gigs of it. Just wiped the drive yesterday... :(

[Vagabond]

It is on TV daily over here. Reruns, but I didn't catch it the first time anyway... :)

[Spartan26]

I'm surprised by Shannen Doherty making the list. She seems way to extroverted. And clingy. That girl isn't out of a relationship for five minutes and spent most of the 90's going from Sky Bar to Myogi's to Bar Marmont (night spots along the Sunset Strip). Maybe her unruly behavior was a means to create some privacy. She also seems too impulsive. INTP's don't marry people under three weeks of meeting someone, do they?

Diane Lane I could see, even M. Streep. Can anyone check on Jodie Foster? Didn't she say the toughest thing about directing was making decisions?

[nobarcode]

I'm surprised by Shannen Doherty making the list. She seems way to extroverted. And clingy. That girl isn't out of a relationship for five minutes and spent most of the 90's going from Sky Bar to Myogi's to Bar Marmont (night spots along the Sunset Strip)....
Yeah, but the whole under the influence aspect makes a muck of things. Not that I would know. :huh:

[Division56]

Maybe she was using her chameleon effect to fit in and advance her career.

And from what I read of her, she's very independent. It could be the fame that makes her a serial monogamist too.

[paladinoflunaria]

The chameleon ability is crazy. Even though we INTPs possess it, it is still difficult to see through another INTP's mask. My psychology teacher last year thought I was extraverted. That makes me laugh, but she insisted that I was extraverted.

I also know a girl whom I suspect to be an INTP, or very similar, and if my suspicions are correct, she has a strong chameleon ability. She seems very clingy and extraverted, but I get the feeling that it's fake. Anyone have any ideas on how to expose the chameleon effect? I could just be chasing a ghost.

[Vagabond]

The only way I know of seeing through the chameleon ability of someone that I know of being an INT, is to put myself in their heads. Like, if it was me in their shoes, what would I be trying to hide under this or that particular attitude...? (sort of, can't explain it any better :blush: ). It usually works, however my problem with it is that, since it is basically a theory and I have no proof that I am right on my conclusions, I don't totally trust them. I always seem to think I might be just too imaginative. Even though most of the times I end up realising I was right, the next time I am still too reluctant to trust my intuition, or whatever you may call it.

[Anacaona]

I'm surprised by Shannen Doherty making the list. She seems way to extroverted. And clingy. Maybe her unruly behavior was a means to create some privacy.

I was also surprised when I saw Shannen Doherty on the INTP list of famous INTPs... I really tought it was a mistake... I, too, think that the fact that she has a bad temper might be because she doesn't get enough time alone or privacy... I can have a bad temper when I don't get enough privacy or time to recharge :rant:

I didn't know any of the other women mentionned (except Meryl Streep)Im going to check them out... :nerd:

[KentOhio]

Is there a Shannen Doherty fan club? We should write her and ask her to join the forum.

[shaytana]

I just took a browse around one of the Shannen Doherty fan club forums.

And I started thinking, if I was famous and there were fan club forums out there dedicated to me, how would I react to them.

I think I would end up ignoring them completely after the novelty wore off.

Anyways, I read a post that was supposedly from her, and it was riddled with spelling and grammar errors.

:huh: :ph34r:

[nobarcode]

Maybe she -Shannen Doherty- was using her chameleon effect to fit in and advance her career.

And from what I read of her, she's very independent. It could be the fame that makes her a serial monogamist too.
paladinoflunaria:

The chameleon ability is crazy. Even though we INTPs possess it, it is still difficult to see through another INTP's mask.

Ok... But it's that and the booze, I'm tellin' ya'.
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v374/nobarcode/elefuns5058.gif

[Vagabond]

Talking of boose... *hick* this is a drinking day...

[int]

:cheers:

[candela]

INTP's don't marry people under three weeks of meeting someone, do they?Why not? I could see myself doing that, and if I'm not an INTP, then I'm none of the personality types.

[meta]

charmed? that show is pure xnfx faire... it's bad, the writing is so moronic, it makes buffy look smart... and those actresses are all unattractive. i am no fan of shannon doherty but she is the most tolerable of them (better looks and better personality)... rose mag looks like a female michael jackson experiment gone wrong.

[Spartan26]

INTP's don't marry people under three weeks of meeting someone, do they?Why not? I could see myself doing that, and if I'm not an INTP, then I'm none of the personality types.

No, I'm seriously asking. It takes me a 1/2 hour to figure out what I want whenever I go into IHOP.

[Melody]

But, we have the P classification. That spending eight days preparing for IHOP thing is a bit different. I thunked.

[Vagabond]

charmed? that show is pure xnfx faire... it's bad, the writing is so moronic, it makes buffy look smart... and those actresses are all unattractive. i am no fan of shannon doherty but she is the most tolerable of them (better looks and better personality)... rose mag looks like a female michael jackson experiment gone wrong.
Still, you don't watch it, do you. :D

[Utopmk]

It has a very catchy theme song.

[meta]

i knew someone that watches it religiously so i openmindedly gave it a chance... how often do you watch it?

yes, it's a good song, but that is no reflection on the show.

[Utopmk]

After the song goes off, I press mute.
It looks like they are having a good time though.

[Vagabond]

i knew someone that watches it religiously so i openmindedly gave it a chance... how often do you watch it?
Quite often. Unfortunately I have a lot of free time in my hands and too much on my mind, so I find that easily digested fairy tales are a nice distraction when I need to turn my mind off.

I still don't understand why one would find Alyssa Milano unattractive though, lol... but I am not male anyway, so...

[Utopmk]

I still don't understand why one would find Alyssa Milano unattractive though, lol... but I am not male anyway, so...

I don't either, because she is delicious.

[meta]

unattractive compared to the vast supply of more attractive actresses they could have cast. they look like over the hill actresses using bad plastic surgery to cover their decline. i would rather see more average looking non plastic surgery victims, or simply better looking actresses who are not over the hill yet (or have not had bad plastic surgery).

but the ridiculous writing and plots is the worst part of the show.

how many channels of tv do you have to choose from anyway?

[Vagabond]

how many channels of tv do you have to choose from anyway?
Like I said, it is a "turning off my mind" procedure. Which is impossible while watching anything that gives food for thought. Or while not watching anything. But, if you have any other method, I'm interested in hearing it... honestly.

[Melody]

That might be a reason why I like fantasy stories. I do not wonder how normal-looking sailboats can fly above clouds. I just take it as a given and say, "O.K."

[Utopmk]

Like I said, it is a "turning off my mind" procedure. Which is impossible while watching anything that gives food for thought. Or while not watching anything. But, if you have any other method, I'm interested in hearing it... honestly.

This is the kind of thinking that leads to drug use. ;)

[meta]

why do you want to turn off your mind?

[Melody]

In my case, my mind goes on thinknig tangents and never comes back. i.e. thinking too much. It feels exhaustve sometimes.

[Claverhouse]

In my case, my mind goes on thinknig tangents and never comes back. i.e. thinking too much. It feels exhaustve sometimes.

It's got a mind of it's own. :devil:


Claverhouse :ph34r:

[Vagabond]

why do you want to turn off your mind?
We are abusing this thread, but anyway... imagine having a number of issues in your head that would have an emotional impact with the effect of an earthquake if you were unable to emotionally detach. If you keep analysing those issues, you keep having the emotional sideffects. Imagine also being somewhat empathic and absorbing emotional vibes from pretty much everyone, but being currently unable to repress feelings - on the contrary, you dive into them in order to analyse them.

Does it start to sound like hell already...?

(Before I start reading I am a Feeler and such, I am not. I should however stop posting at 4.30 am, cause I talk too much... :blush: )

[shaytana]

Like I said, it is a "turning off my mind" procedure. Which is impossible while watching anything that gives food for thought. Or while not watching anything. But, if you have any other method, I'm interested in hearing it... honestly.

weed.

[Melody]

Actually, Vagabond, that is one of the reasons for me, too. Break ups and such things, especially ones that do not make sense, send my mind into endless turmoil. I have to do "detach" or I will lay on my bed staring up at the ceiling thinking about what the hell happened for hours at a time. Such pain. *clutches heart*

[Melody]

A goood thing is that the word "clutches" has reminded me of Spaceballs. Dark Helmet uses that word while playing with his dolls. I think...something like, "Princess Vespa, at last, I have you in my clutches, to have my way with you, the way I want to." The funny thing is that he stresses that word.

This post is on topic because the actor who plays Dark Helmet is an INTP.

Getting more on topic, I am surprised that the Olson twins are INTP's. O_O That explains their nature. I wondered why they were so quiet.

[candela]

No, I'm seriously asking. It takes me a 1/2 hour to figure out what I want whenever I go into IHOP.Hm. I always get the same thing when I go to restaurants. If I've never been there before, I look for something "safe" on the menu. So obviously I'm not impulsive, but I could see myself marrying someone after 3 weeks if I knew I wanted to.

I like to do things all the way or not do them at all, and I think that same sort of principle is being applied there. It applies to just about everything else I do anyway, from playing games where I set the difficulty all the way down or all the way up(that could be an obsessive compulsive behavior though) to drinking no alcohol or drinking everclear. I think I read somewhere that a lot of INTPs are like that.

[meta]

vag - i think daily exercise (walking or running) increases your ability to steer your mind.

i think when your cardiac fitness drops you become crazy/neurotic or depressed, the depression end represents the most extreme level of cardiac degeneration.

i am less sure, but speculate, sleeping only when you need to has similar benefits (though likely not as signficant as exercise).

eating less too.

basically i think fitness correlates most with life. the less fit you are, the closer you are to death.

why do you have so much free time... do you not have any interests to pursue?

[paladinoflunaria]

I wouldn't be surprised.

[Vagabond]

why do you have so much free time... do you not have any interests to pursue?
I knew I would regret posting that message :) And we are abusing this thread. Excercise, along with anything that you do mechanically, does not shut your mind down, rather the opposite. Anyway, it is kind of complicated, so let's just drop it...

paladinoflunaria, why is that?

[paladinoflunaria]

Because I'm out of shape and I'm a pessimist. I wouldn't be shocked to find that my lack of exercise is limiting my mental clarity; ability. I'm not overweight, but I am in worse shape than I could be. I've been looking into weight lifting, yoga, and pilates, but I'm not exactly time or money wealthy.

Not sure if we're on the same page there. :wacko: I think that's what you were asking about.

[meta]

who here has a problem with thread abuse, it is the P nature to meander at will, or to care little about the meandering of others.

exercise does not shut the mind down, it increases your ability to direct your mind (and/or make sense of what flows through it).

[Spartan26]

I kinda like the wanderings. Helps provide more insight on a variety of issues that may ultimately be helpful.

But, I will put my foot down to get things back on track! Who's done their homework? Any confirmation on famous female INTP's? Who's on the board, Shannen Doherty? Did we find out for sure? Mary Kate and Ashley? Could they both be the same? Meril Streep? I think I asked about Jodie Foster, A little help here people! Huh???

[Vagabond]

OK, OK, Jesus... I guess the J in me jumped in. Please carry on :P

Why all this fuss about famous INTP women in particular anyway...?

[Johnny]

Perhaps because even perceivers occasionally like to admire others who seem to be like them, though they may not always be admired for doing so?:D

No offense to Judgers, mind you. My wife, for one, is an outstanding judger and is always prodding me to organize. :cheers:

[Crazy]

Celebrities are difficult to determine, one, because we can't just walk up to them and ask them to take our tests, and two, becuase with the press and fans and everything, they are constantly "acting" like what they want to put forth to the world. Also, we tend to identify them with the characters they play, and therefore it is hard to seperate the character from the actor.

And of course, gossip and rumor cloud our perception of said famous person.

[paladinoflunaria]

Either way, it's pretty sad when someone has to live as someone they're not, just for money, fame, a sense of success, etc..

[Utopmk]

I'm still suprised that no one has questioned "Ashley and Mary Kate Olsen" as being INTPs. -_-

http://www.wsc.edu/advising/program/career/personality/intp.html

[int]

I did. I didn't vocalize it as I'm not a judge. I read a couple articles about them that left me in quetsion...

[Jezebel]

I'm still suprised that no one has questioned "Ashley and Mary Kate Olsen" as being INTPs. -_-

http://www.wsc.edu/advising/program/career/personality/intp.html

I think it's easy to dismiss them because of the image they portray. But keep in mind that they have been in front of the camera for about as long as they can remember. They didn't choose to get into their profession at a point when they were capable of making decisions. They were made into a brand at a very young age which turned out to be a success. Their image appeals to a target audience of young girls, and their success at appealing to them has led to a multi-million dollar company that they own. It just doesn't seem like the smart thing to switch over to a more "INTP image", because lets face it, most people just don't think we're that cool. The roles they play on tv and to the media don't mean it is their reality. If they are INTPs, they would probably be even more likely to keep their real personalities and lives private.

Not that I think they have an INTP personality, as I don't know them personally, but I can't dismiss the possibility entirely. But I would like to know how they ended up on all those internet lists in the first place.

[Spartan26]

Did anyone see the Olsen twins on Saturday Night Live back in May, I think it was. I gotta give them their props. They had pretty good chops considering the broad comedies they've played in over the years where being precise was never an issue.

The guest host(s) on SNL get to pick the sketches they're in out of probably 100+ that are written over the first part of the week. I think they spent a great deal of thought in selecting which ones to be in as opposed to the hosts where their mgrs, agents & pr people probably have their hand in the mix.

I unfortunately know of no one on the inside to verify my hypothesis, but given that, & how they remained relatively in obscurity, (personal life e.g. no dating of Prince Andrew or Macauly Calkin or the like) much of their lives, I could possibly see them being INTP's. It wouldn't surprise me if one of their publicists thought floating their names among the thinkers would be in the girl's best interest but small bits of evidence.

Big ups to Utopmk for finding an attributing source. I wouldn't have guessed it. Fairly good article I might ad. Concise.

[Jezebel]

The guest host(s) on SNL get to pick the sketches they're in out of probably 100+ that are written over the first part of the week. I think they spent a great deal of thought in selecting which ones to be in as opposed to the hosts where their mgrs, agents & pr people probably have their hand in the mix.

I didn't see this, but I have seen specials on them about their money. Supposedly they play a large part in how their company, DualStar, is run and nothing goes out if it without their approval. They really milk their image and tap into everything from books to video games to clothing lines. This seems very uncommon for actresses their age.

They say several things in this article which could be clues to them being INTPs:

http://cinecon.com/news.php?id=0404301


We are always creating different things and coming up with new ideas. We set different goals for ourselves. Right now, it is just getting to college. We know what we want--our ultimate goal is to stay in business. We are not here with a specific plan. That’s kind of how our entire career has evolved. We will figure things out as we go along. But trying different things has opened up new and different opportunities.


Q: Do you two feel the press has been pretty good to you guys?

MARY-KATE AND ASHLEY: Yeah, we know the press has been good, but we try to stay out of the public eye when we are not working. And, we do not really like to talk about our personal lives.

[Crazy]

The guest host(s) on SNL get to pick the sketches they're in out of probably 100+ that are written over the first part of the week. I think they spent a great deal of thought in selecting which ones to be in as opposed to the hosts where their mgrs, agents & pr people probably have their hand in the mix.

I didn't see this, but I have seen specials on them about their money. Supposedly they play a large part in how their company, DualStar, is run and nothing goes out if it without their approval. They really milk their image and tap into everything from books to video games to clothing lines. This seems very uncommon for actresses their age.

They say several things in this article which could be clues to them being INTPs:

http://cinecon.com/news.php?id=0404301


We are always creating different things and coming up with new ideas. We set different goals for ourselves. Right now, it is just getting to college. We know what we want--our ultimate goal is to stay in business. We are not here with a specific plan. That’s kind of how our entire career has evolved. We will figure things out as we go along. But trying different things has opened up new and different opportunities.


Q: Do you two feel the press has been pretty good to you guys?

MARY-KATE AND ASHLEY: Yeah, we know the press has been good, but we try to stay out of the public eye when we are not working. And, we do not really like to talk about our personal lives.

Sounds very INTP to me

[Jezebel]

some more Olsen info:

http://www.canada.com/news/national/story.html?id=c355b611-e671-40fb-96e9-20bde2f23d6a

Ashley speaking:

As for future projects, in light of the fact they just turned 18 in June and officially took over the reins of their Los Angeles-based multimedia company, Dualstar Entertainment Group, and plan to attend NYU this fall, she conceded they are playing it by ear these days. But they may take on solo projects in the near future, possibly even directing or producing film or TV.

And she vigorously defended the decision to further their education even though by all accounts they've already "made it" in life as millionaires.

"We want to go to school and we want to take a break from this a little bit," she replied.

I'm only 18, I have so much more to learn in my life. I don't know, family, art, directing possibly, writing. I want to learn different languages, maybe study psychology."

On the New York Minute DVD extras, the girls' director describes Ashley as the deep thinker, the understated and sophisticated one while Mary-Kate is more of a risk-taker. Even Mary-Kate says on camera that she felt she could play Roxy better...

I don't know, it doesn't seem like such a far stretch that they could in fact have INTP personalities, especially Ashley.

[Miss Padfoot]

That's pretty surprising. I didn't think they could be INTPs, but I guess they just might be.

I wonder when they'll realize that they can't act to save their lives (and they should stop their careers to become college professors or something :P).

[Utopmk]

Their smiles look fake, and they look scared as hell.
A socionics indicator that they are INTP.
But why would they both be INTP...hmm do genes determine personality type?

[Miss Padfoot]

I have been wondering that for a very long time. My parents are ENTP and some sort of TJ (I can't type my mom), so it makes sense that I'm an INTP. But there are other members here who are the offspring of two SJs. So I have concluded... absolutely nothing yet.

There's a discussion about nature and nurture in the "I, N, T or P?" thread in the MBTI and Jung section. You might want to check it out if you haven't done so.

[Anacaona]

Perhaps because even perceivers occasionally like to admire others who seem to be like them, though they may not always be admired for doing so?:D

I think so... I was looking for other famous INTP women to see how similar they are to me... I like to admire people who have similarities with me(but who have accomplished great things) Maybe Im looking for a "role -model" too, because INTP women are so rare...

[Arioch]

I've heard that the directer of "Lost in Translation" was a INTP. Which is what made Scarlett Johansons character so... INTP like.

[Hope]

I'm surprised by Shannen Doherty making the list. She seems way to extroverted. And clingy. That girl isn't out of a relationship for five minutes and spent most of the 90's going from Sky Bar to Myogi's to Bar Marmont (night spots along the Sunset Strip). Maybe her unruly behavior was a means to create some privacy. She also seems too impulsive. INTP's don't marry people under three weeks of meeting someone, do they?

Diane Lane I could see, even M. Streep. Can anyone check on Jodie Foster? Didn't she say the toughest thing about directing was making decisions?

Shannon Doherty doesn't seem like that much of a stretch for an INTP.
I can see a lot of myself in her. Especially the man-eating bitch part.

[t]

Their smiles look fake, and they look scared as hell.
A socionics indicator that they are INTP.
But why would they both be INTP...hmm do genes determine personality type?

i've wondered that myself. my dad's an INTP and my mom's an ESFP (they divorced after 4 years of marriage because they clashed too much). i'm an INTP, my brother's an INFP. my mother & i clash because i'm "exactly like my father". the funny thing is that my mother raised my brother & i and sheis very extroverted... and ended up with two introverted children. so i do wonder how genetics plays into it.

[spirilis]

Their smiles look fake, and they look scared as hell.
A socionics indicator that they are INTP.
But why would they both be INTP...hmm do genes determine personality type?

i've wondered that myself. my dad's an INTP and my mom's an ESFP (they divorced after 4 years of marriage because they clashed too much). i'm an INTP, my brother's an INFP. my mother & i clash because i'm "exactly like my father". the funny thing is that my mother raised my brother & i and sheis very extroverted... and ended up with two introverted children. so i do wonder how genetics plays into it.
I'm highly convinced genetics has something to do with it...
I am pretty sure my dad's an NT-type, and supposedly from hearing of ancestors on that line of the family, a lot of my paternal relatives were in math, science, etc.
My mom's side of the family much less so.

[Anacaona]

Shannen Doherty was mentionned here as being INTP but according to socionics, Shannen Doherty is a socionics INTp, so she would be an INTJ...

[Eileen]

Dag, I'm sorry that I posted the MK and Ashley thread! Didn't know about this thread, so I thought it was new news. My bad. Admins are more than welcome to delete that one. Let it be known, however, that I still find it hilarious.

Simone Wiel was supposedly INTP. She sort of seems F in a lot of ways, though.

[songbird36]

Aphra Behn might have been an INTP..

[Llewellyn]

Here (http://www.typologycentral.com/forums/archive/index.php/t-15933.html) someone says Kim Basinger and Kylie Minogue are INTP.
Don't know, I'm not that good at typing. The former calls herself "such a shy person" (interview (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=plHcWzsQxPI)).

[HoneyCyclical]

I heard somewhere that Martha Graham was an INTP.