Mexico Aiding It's Citizens To Illegally Cross the U.S. Border

[FranG]

I couldn't believe this when I read it. Then I thought about it, and I'm not surprised. Our governments work in tandem with each other to further aid in a global state.

Anyway, Mexican government will give citizens satellite tracking devices to citizens seeking to cross the border. If they should run into trouble, Mexican border officials will come to their aid. They say they want to save lives <_< Shady Shady Shady. And our government will just turn a blind eye because of the books they support illegal immigration. It's good for corporations, and for state bureacracies that seek to expand. Here's the article. Warning, it's from the Chinese so interpret that how you will.

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Mexico offers satnav to illegals crossing into the US

Justin Stares

Monday, January 01, 2007

Would-be illegal immigrants planning to cross the desert and enter the United States on foot are to be given hand-held satellite devices by the Mexican authorities to ensure they arrive safely.

Those who get lost or fall sick during the dangerous four-day crossing will be able to activate the device, to alert frontier police on both sides of the border.

The satellite tracking service will require would-be illegals to register their intentions before setting off - a paradoxical move, given that secrecy is necessary for success - but Mexican authorities are predicting that about 200,000 devices will be handed out when the project is launched formally in the coming year.

"Our intention is to save lives," said Jaime Obregon, the coordinator for the state commission for migrants in Puebla, the Mexican state which is behind the project. "There are lots of people looking to cross and we are working with the US authorities to make sure they do not die on the way." Read more.... (http://www.thestandard.com.hk/news_detail.asp?pp_cat=17&art_id=35131&sid=11554548&con_type=1)

[garak]

Good for them. Why would you want more people to die needlessly?

[airjaw]

This has been public knowledge for some time. It's no secret that Mexico encourages their citizens to cross the border illegally. The illegal immigrants then send the money they earn back to Mexico.

[charred_heart]

This has been public knowledge for some time. It's no secret that Mexico encourages their citizens to cross the border illegally. The illegal immigrants then send the money they earn back to Mexico.how does that make the government rich? Illegal workers don't exactly pay taxes :think:

[garak]

how does that make the government rich? Illegal workers don't exactly pay taxes :think:

True, but I think the sheer amount of the money that is being infused into their economy is enough to make them interested in pursuing it. Also, it looks like Mexico has a VAT, so the government's making some tax money whenever these people spend their money.

[FranG]

Good for them. Why would you want more people to die needlessly?

It's not that I want them to die, but their government (and our's) shouldn't be encouraging it. That's a risk they take trying to sneak into another country. If I break into someone's house, I'm liable to be shot right?


This has been public knowledge for some time. It's no secret that Mexico encourages their citizens to cross the border illegally. The illegal immigrants then send the money they earn back to Mexico.

Yeah it's a big ass scam; the only losers being the American working class. American government and corporations benefit too. And true it's public knowledge, but it seems now their upping the antie.

[libertarianjim]

If I were more twisted and cruel, I'd say a government sending its citizens across another nation's border was an act of war -- and that we should invade and seize back the oil fields that got nationalized into PEMEX.

[Avengardh]

Hahahaha.

Do your research people.
That is all I will say about this.

[MacGuffin]

Shady Shady Shady
Say his name a few more times and he appears.

[meshou]

Yeah it's a big ass scam; the only losers being the American working class.So we naturalize them easy and have lovely little resource centers that teach them english and give them recourse if they're being paid below the minimum wage. Then they WILL be the American working class.

The American working class has long by definition been full of losers. There'll always be fry cook positions and a way to go lay pipe. I'm much more worried about the disappearing middle class and growing corporate profits than a Mexican taking four sub-minimum wage jobs picking cabbage. There's always more room at the bottom, it's room at the middle and top that's disappearing.

[FranG]

So we naturalize them easy and have lovely little resource centers that teach them english and give them recourse if they're being paid below the minimum wage. Then they WILL be the American working class.

The American working class has long by definition been full of losers. There'll always be fry cook positions and a way to go lay pipe. I'm much more worried about the disappearing middle class and growing corporate profits than a Mexican taking four sub-minimum wage jobs picking cabbage. There's always more room at the bottom, it's room at the middle and top that's disappearing.

That's what I meant. They're trying to implement a 2-class system, rich and poor. With the rich getting richer, etc. But our economy still can't handle too many people at the bottom. That'll cause all kinds of social and economical problems.

[firch]

So we naturalize them easy and have lovely little resource centers that teach them english and give them recourse if they're being paid below the minimum wage. Then they WILL be the American working class.

The American working class has long by definition been full of losers. There'll always be fry cook positions and a way to go lay pipe. I'm much more worried about the disappearing middle class and growing corporate profits than a Mexican taking four sub-minimum wage jobs picking cabbage. There's always more room at the bottom, it's room at the middle and top that's disappearing.
You can't have a low wage economy for the working class and expect that it won't erode the size of the middle class also.

You may be able to get your car washed cheaply by a team of poorly paid manual workers (good for you) but they won't be purchasing any of your services on their pitiful wage ever.

[meshou]

That's what I meant. They're trying to implement a 2-class system, rich and poor. With the rich getting richer, etc. But our economy still can't handle too many people at the bottom. That'll cause all kinds of social and economical problems.Like I say, there's more than enough room at the bottom. No US citizen wants to pick strawberries for ten hours a day. Believe me, if you wanted to find a job laying pipe or something, you wouldn't have all that much trouble. We have no shortage of "lower class" jobs.

Frankly, this is more a problem of trickle down economics and the weakening interest in science programs in the US. the US government gave companies tax breaks in the eighties to re-invest in business. And they did! Just overseas. Ooops. Perhaps they should have given tax breaks to only people who invested over here in the first place. Too late now.

And will probably get worse. They've cut college funding. No fewer people will go through college, but a lot more of them will be under crippling debt. Wages aren't increasing, but cost of living is decreasing, as is the value of the dollar.

There are a whole lot more factors. Anyway, Mexicans aren't a large fraction of the problem, but more likely a symptom.

[Jivinjeffjones]

I never saw anyone over 40 working in a fast-food outlet until I went to America. Long live the American working underclass! Proto-Morlocks the lot of em.

[FranG]

Like I say, there's more than enough room at the bottom. No US citizen wants to pick strawberries for ten hours a day. Believe me, if you wanted to find a job laying pipe or something, you wouldn't have all that much trouble. We have no shortage of "lower class" jobs.



I think the whole Americans don't want to do these jobs are media hype. And shit what's wrong with wanting a decent wage for your services? If you eliminate a middle wage and allow waves of illegal (or legal) immigrants into the economy, it will drive wages down to approach working for peanuts literally. Minimum wages is the government's way of putting a check on the amount that companies can extract from the wages of it's laborers. It sends the message that even the poorest American will have at least some minimum standard of living. And if not that's not enough, what about the social costs of keeping all these immigrants. This scenario makes me think of the Dust Bowl from the 1930s.

You're right about the offshoring. But you probably say I'm crazy if I said that was by design. I told ya'll what they're trying to do, deliberately bring this country down and hide behind the moniker of incompetence. Call it organized confusion.