the emotional dependant morons in #intp

[Shai Gar]

if you are an #intp regular then yes, this probably means you.

You Suck, talk about your fucking depressed dependant faggotry you whiney cunts couldnt even fucking take issue with me to resolve anything. noooo you have to be emotional about my sense of humour and run and tell an operator. one that rarely even enters #intp no fucking less. so now the count is something like this

1. i offended you without knowing
2. i was not approached about it and told that i crossed your values
3. you tell an op that i have never met to ban me
4. i dont even know why i am fucking banned untill heero goes and finds out
5. only heero has the fucking balls to goddamn tell me why i was banned.

so fuck all of you cunts from joft who i kind of liked through to chicken who i tolerated up to a point (whenever she insulted me, only then would i insult her back tenfold. i never ran to get help i defended my goddamned fucking self) right through to to that bastard i hated through and fucking through but never said anything about it Firechoice. ever fucking hear of shit rolling off your back? one of the reasons i was goddamned well given and this is a pretty shit reason if ever i had heard of one was destroying conversations. now i cannot remember a single fucking time i ever did this all the times i was in a conversation, that is a conversation and not a flamewar, i either debated or simply had fun with the backstabbing cunts that you are. another reason was "i jumped into conversations" whenever i just jumped right into a conversation i jumped in because i had just joined the room. i am not going to sit around and watch, now that might be interesting at a nightclub or a party where watching people make arses of themselves makes for a fun evening, but i came to #intp to meet people who are likewise intp that i could have fun with and talk to, i do not hold back in IRC channels, why bother i dont find it fun. and asking for a person to be banned because he tries to talk to people and actually responds when you call him gay or some other retarded insult is worse than pathetic, it makes you a n00b.

noone who was asked in #intp had anything good to say, and 4/5 of the channel was asked. and fuck i didnt even know, way to go with the heads up mate maybe you should tone down a little. retards.

i was told i could have a second chance if i changed. HAH, there isnt a chance in hell i would even consider it. here is to hoping bush tightens domestic restrictions and disallows american use of nonauthorised internet relay chatrooms "because they are hacking breeding grounds" and gets you all killed from a terrorist attack.

[Division56]

Someone needs his meds.

[Shai Gar]

someone needs a shotgun to the back of the throat

[s]

WTF?

[joft]

you and chicken were both banned, heero used one of his bots to do it but I don't know why. I was aware that some of the other members were annoyed by the both of you sometimes but I was never aware that anyone was really talking about banning anyone. supposedly it was "democratic," my vote was suppressed, I demand a recount

(i would want both of you to be allowed back but i don't think you're helping your chances with this post)

[Edmond Zedo]

you and chicken were both banned, heero used one of his bots to do it but I don't know why.
I know why, but I wasn't there, and nobody told me.

[Shai Gar]

my vote was suppressed
i take back my dispising you. though i was told noone voted for me to stay



(i would want both of you to be allowed back but i don't think you're helping your chances with this post) i dont want back into a channel where i am the last to find out i am offending people. issues should be resolved with those you have them with, not by having the person banned

[Division56]

i take back my dispising you. though i was told noone voted for me to stay

i dont want back into a channel where i am the last to find out i am offending people. issues should be resolved with those you have them with, not by having the person banned
Man, if you can't tell you have been offending people, you need to go back and look at your posts...

[joft]

I know why, but I wasn't there, and nobody told me.
Why? The obvious reason is to escape responsibility for the specific act of banning them. He did paste his conversation with ShaiGar where he told ShaiGar he didn't know why [his bot] would ban him and that he should ask [his bot] about it (who would by that time conveniently be offline). But the fact that I know it was his bot shows that he has previously had it in the room and that ShaiGar and/or Chicken are likely to know and remember that it was his bot too.

Even if they aren't, avoiding responsibility for an act like that seems illogical to me. He attempted to defend the action by saying it was "democratic" and that a bunch of people asked for it. So if he thought it was right, he shouldn't have been hesitant to accept that responsibility. I guess it's still plausible, but it's full of holes that I would think are pretty obvious to a fellow INTP like Heero.

[joft]

Anyway this whole thing seems pretty out of place for an INTP forum or chat room. It seems strange to ban someone based on irritation, along with all the secrecy. I think not only is it antithetical to our supposed open-mindedness to have an enforced heirarchy with the power to banish members so easily but also that we would have some sort of sympathy or empathy toward our own kind, knowing that we've most likely already earned the disapproval of the majority of everyone else.

[melancholeric]

I don't know what has happened, but the person who wrote the opening post can hardly accuse anyone else having emotional problems. (referring to topic)

[heeroyuy]

I think it's time for me to respond to all the accusations about myself and Culex. I will now state my reasoning, as well as why you were banned, and clarification about votes.

1) Everyone who remained in the chatroom except those I specified voted you out. jittus rye I don't recall, chicken was banned with you, joft left when you left then rejoined. Both of your bans have been lifed, your +v has been removed temporarily however.

2) Culex is a bot of mine, originally I didn't want to have to deal with you bitching to me, and frankly I still don't. But I will accept responsibility, and in our privmsg session I did admit why I was enforcing the ban.

3) A forum shouldn't be heavily moderated, but realtime chat is a very different story. If someone trys to disturb a conversation or supress someone else in a forum, it is easy to ignore as they can only reply so fast... In a chatroom, they can spam you and totally supress you in every way imaginable. The fact that no one approached you about this irrelevant, the fact that no one but you and chicken talked very much since you came in the room is evidence enough. Would you like log files?

4) It was a vote, I DIDN'T WANT to ban you. People had formed other channels in fact, for us to go to so you two could have your own private place to screw around. When this happens, I have to act to perserve order. Realize, lots of people who don't like you had a +o. A quarter of the damn room has operator privs, but I tell them not to use them unless a spam bot comes in or a very obvious flamer, that's why everyone had come to me 'bout it.

5) I did what I had to, I maintained order. If the majority of the room decides they want your +v back, I'll give it to you. If you want, in a few days you can have it back as well, but keep acting like this and I'll remove it again.

6) This is why I hate authority, I acted to preserve order, not only that, but I acted with authority granted me through requesting wether this was an agreed upon action. If the margins don't like it, fine, I'm sorry. But I don't have time to get bitched out about the "ethics" of banning a disruptive member of an irc chatroom. If you have a problem with this, handle it with me, there's no reason to pollute the forums with this garbage.

(and no, the last line wasn't trying to 'supress you from telling your story of exploitation' so don't even get me started on that.)

[heeroyuy]

Oh-and of the enforced heirchary of power, why do you think I don't use my +o usually? I don't want people to think that I have super-powers, I don't want people to think of me as authority, because to me we are ALL equals in a discussion TOGETHER. The +o is only to be used as a last resort to maintain order within the room, and that's why only chanserv maintains it under usual circumstances.

[joft]

I'm sorry but I still don't see any of the point in this at all. As ShaiGar pointed out, nobody ever said anything about them being disruptive. I don't see why they were singled out as disruptive when other people can and have participated in the same type of disruptive chat room behavior they have. I've seen you, typing quickly, filling the chat room with line after line of text and then apologizing for your "rant." I've seen Arioch spam the "!quote" feature on your other bot. jittus rye has been disruptive and personally insulting. I myself have randomly interjected off-topic disruptive statements. In fact, the only people who are never disruptive are the people who just never talk.

I don't really accept the notion that, being introverted, people are actually caused to not participate in the chat because some other people are talking. This might be the case in real life where more than one person talking at once makes it difficult to pay attention to or even hear one of them. But on the internet, in text? No, this brings me to my next point:

Tell me of one IRC client anyone in that chat room uses which does not have an ignore feature. Honestly, it's a great feature. I think the original inventor of it deserves a Nobel Peace Prize. Or at least he would if people actually ever used it.

[ApeTheDog]

Yeah, they actually offered that guy a nobel prize but he didn't come to the stage, he was busy going all "Na na na I can't hear you" when they called out his name.

[melancholeric]

The moments I express my genuine feelings are quite rare, but now I have an irresistible urge to say, without the slightest intention of sarcasm or dishonesty, that, ApeTheDog, I love you.

[heeroyuy]

The fact stands that the majority wanted him gone, and he is. In another enviorment, I wouldn't have done it, I would've said "ignore him" but in IRC, no.

He's chased people off, I have several people who have shown me logs (as well as my own logs having this) where he has abused various features and chased various people off in offensive ways. Deal with it. This was my and the channels call, we made it. If you have a problem, feel free to privmsg me. If enough people complain, I'll lift the ban. The ban will be lifted by thursday or friday anyways becaue it's a TEMPORARY BAN. My "rants" are usually because a group asks me to tell them what's up, and I do, then I stop, and don't say another word until someone has a comment on my rant or what's going on.

The ignore feature is for personal rivalries, not for grievances damn near an entire channel has against someone.

Yes, I probably should've asked him to leave first, but at the moment I thought all I would get is flamed, yes I shouldn't have used Culex, this I admit was in error but I don't doubt I wouldn't have been allowed to explain to him without being flamed if I hadn't. Yes, I'm not perfect, I fucking acknowledge this, but I'd appreciate it if you didn't suddenly think you understand why I do what I do. Do you fucking get why the hell I run things? Do you get why the hell I develop things? Do you even get why the FUCK I worked to put this on my server?

The internet means alot to me, the internet is a means of communication. This means of communication is a new technology, a new form of media, becuase for the first time in ALL OF HISTORY the people can interact _with_ the media, they can change it, adapt it, and talk to it. People work hard to create places, communities, where people can speak together and work together to create and form ideas, to create tomorrow.

These communities link the world over, even if not everyone in the world can view them yet. That is why I will fight censorship of opinions. This is not about censorship of opinion, this is about something totally different. You're attacking the structure of the communication, you're also preventing others from communicating with this noise.

I have worked hours, days, weeks, I have devoted myself to the creation and maintenance of this network of systems, can you say the same? Do you fucking work late nights to make sure servers and networks remain up, to help fellow systems and network admins keep up their systems? Do you offer a free hosting service for ANYONE who wants to post ANYTHING with the exception of nude photos? Do you!

I hate my authority, I sometimes wish I didn't have it. Honestly, it would be a hell of a lot easier if I said "fuck it" and let everyone do what they wanted, let everyone run wild and destroy this community I've created. I can't let that happen though, because if I do the quality of the communications will degrade to a level which will make it useless, we've seen this through the advent of spam.

So yes, I banned him, yes I did it. Why? No, it wasn't because I hated his opinions, fuck I don't care what his opinions are, I cared that he was destroying a medium which I helped to create, and which I consider it my responsibility to protect. He was destroying the only lines of communication some people have, lines over which they have lived 'virtually' when they couldn't live in themselves, when they couldn't live without, where they found fucking support when no one else did.

Yes, I banned him, yes, I'm guilty of maintaining 'order' whatever the hell that means. Yes, I'm guilty of being a bastard, yes, I'm guilty of hurting your friend, yes, I'm guilty. You want to know what would happen without people like me? Get a yahoo email account and disable spam filters.

He's free to do as he wishes in his own channel, or come back to ours and abide by our rules. If he doesn't like it, that's too bad, as I WON'T let communication degrade beyond recognition in something under MY control.

I'm done.

[InsurgentAlpha]

It was only my second time there and I didn't vote for anything. Not knowing anything or anyone I was just plain confused. But your posting on here is a bit strange... especially the last paragraph.

[heeroyuy]

Yea...I think I got a little bit into a "A Few Good Men" (that was that movie?) mode there. I just hope the verdict for me isn't the same :)

Edit: I'm not sure if you meant him or me, but I just realized I sounded like that guy, so hey, there's my humor for the day.

[EternalCynic]

Alright, heres my piece. Aside from Chicken, I never saw anybody attack ShaiGar that called for such excessive "defense."
ShaiGar, you were a dick, and you need to own up to that. If you didnt realize you were pissing people off, then maybe you need to be a little more observant. All I had to do was sit there and watch as you acted like a rude son of a bitch to most of the people there, save like, two or three people.
I'm not even a damn -mod- in that room and I had people messaging me about how much of an ass Shai was to them.
Also, this is only a temporary ban. I don't see what all the fuss is about. If you can't handle a temporary ban, you don't have any right to be calling someone an emotional moron.
Lastly, I was not there for the technical vote, but if I had been, I would have voted for Shai to go.

[InsurgentAlpha]

I was talking about Shai. Though you are plenty strange. lol ;P

[joft]

I'm relatively new to the community, so I'm pretty unaware of anything Chicken may have done in the past to be harmful to it. But I was aware of the fact that people were put off by ShaiGar. However, you dismissed the use of the ignore feature as though it was not an option, when it very clearly is.

I wasn't attacking you or belittling your accomplishment or effort for this community, I'm very glad to have found it. I was only attempting to point out that "disruptive behavior" is relative. I'm slightly put off by Arioch's tendency to flirt with anyone he can, but if I actually cared enough about it I would just ignore him and that would solve everything for me. I was also slightly annoyed by ShaiGar at times, but I didn't go sending other people messages telling them that he annoyed me for some reason. And ignoring him would easily end that too.

I'm about as timidly introverted as can be most of the time, interrupt me once in a conversation or talk over me and I likely won't talk again. But honestly, even in my opinion, it's just illogical to be that way online.

[spirilis]

I'm relatively new to the community, so I'm pretty unaware of anything Chicken may have done in the past to be harmful to it. But I was aware of the fact that people were put off by ShaiGar. However, you dismissed the use of the ignore feature as though it was not an option, when it very clearly is.

I wasn't attacking you or belittling your accomplishment or effort for this community, I'm very glad to have found it. I was only attempting to point out that "disruptive behavior" is relative. I'm slightly put off by Arioch's tendency to flirt with anyone he can, but if I actually cared enough about it I would just ignore him and that would solve everything for me. I was also slightly annoyed by ShaiGar at times, but I didn't go sending other people messages telling them that he annoyed me for some reason. And ignoring him would easily end that too.

I'm about as timidly introverted as can be most of the time, interrupt me once in a conversation or talk over me and I likely won't talk again. But honestly, even in my opinion, it's just illogical to be that way online.
Well, the /ignore feature works for people who already frequent it. But it doesn't make sense for newcomers who don't know him yet.

I'll post my main example if you want... (I have IRC logs of everything in that channel ;) )

[InsurgentAlpha]

Let's see the example. He brought it up in the forums first so you shouldn't be reluctant to post it.

[spirilis]

09:38 -!- Anvril [A@233-192.246.81.adsl.skynet.be] has joined #intp
09:38 -!- mode/#intp [+v Anvril] by ChanServ
09:38 <+Spirilis> rofl
09:38 <+Spirilis> hello Anvril
09:38 <+Anvril> Hello
09:39 <+Anvril> : ) am I that funny ?
09:39 <+Spirilis> I step away for 2 minutes to read a website and you guys are already talking about Hawkon's sexual preference.
09:39 <+Spirilis> LOL
09:39 <+Anvril> oh
09:39 <+Spirilis> nah, just consider yourself lucky that you can't see the posts from before you arrived
09:39 <+Anvril> : )
09:39 <+Spirilis> so, uhh, tell us about yourself. Do it ESFJ style.
09:39 <+Anvril> another day
09:39 <+ShaiGar> ANVRIL
09:39 <+Hawkon> lol
09:40 <+Spirilis> lol
09:40 <+ShaiGar> !8ball is anvril going to go gay
09:40 <@ChanServ> ShaiGar: Not a chance.
09:40 <+Hawkon> ESFJ style? my gf is ESFJ
09:40 <+Anvril> oooh
09:40 <+Spirilis> haha
09:40 <+Spirilis> nice
09:40 <+ShaiGar> !8ball is anvril going to have sex with a nigger
09:40 <@ChanServ> ShaiGar: Not a chance.
09:40 <+Anvril> : p
09:40 <+ShaiGar> !8ball is anvril a chick
09:40 <@ChanServ> ShaiGar: In your dreams.
09:40 <+ShaiGar> !8ball is anvril female
09:40 <@ChanServ> ShaiGar: Absolutely!
09:40 <+Spirilis> lol
09:40 <+Anvril> : )
09:40 <+Spirilis> well was it right?
09:40 <+Anvril> this bot is well done
09:40 <+ShaiGar> !8ball is anvril going to have sex with me
09:40 <@ChanServ> ShaiGar: In your dreams.
09:40 <+Anvril> yea
09:40 <+Spirilis> HAH!
09:40 <+Anvril> right : )
09:40 <+Spirilis> oh, cool
09:40 <+Spirilis> lol
09:41 <+ShaiGar> !8ball is anvril going to have sex with me in my dreams and will it be hot steamy sex
09:41 <@ChanServ> ShaiGar: In your dreams.
09:41 <+Spirilis> the bot just put our mate ShaiGar in his place.
09:41 <+Spirilis> LOL
09:41 <+Anvril> okay .. : )
09:41 -!- Anvril [A@233-192.246.81.adsl.skynet.be] has left #intp ()

As you can see, I was more or less going along with it. But I seriously doubt Anvril's departure had much to do with my snide remarks, and more to do with ShaiGar's persistent indirect sexual gestures (made by using the !8ball feature) to her, especially shortly after she arrived in this channel for the FIRST TIME.

So that was rather ignorant. But his follow-through didn't impress me either (repeating the last 2 lines from the previous segment):

09:41 <+Anvril> okay .. : )
09:41 -!- Anvril [A@233-192.246.81.adsl.skynet.be] has left #intp ()
09:41 <+Spirilis> hah
09:41 <+Spirilis> you sick fuck. you scared her away!
09:41 <+ShaiGar> !8ball in my dreams when avril and i have sex will it be hot steamy sex
09:41 <@ChanServ> ShaiGar: Could be, could be.
09:41 <+ShaiGar> : D
09:41 <+ShaiGar> !8ball will you and i have sex?
09:41 <@ChanServ> ShaiGar: Not a chance.
09:41 <+ShaiGar> !8ball will you and i have sex on the sofa
09:41 <@ChanServ> ShaiGar: Absolutely!
09:42 <+Arioch> Hey everyone!
09:42 <+Arioch> It's CHANGE YOUR J DAY!
09:42 <+Spirilis> change your joint?
09:42 <+Spirilis> I thought you were supposed to do that every time you smoked it?
09:42 <+Arioch> No, all T's must be F's
09:42 <+Spirilis> LOL
09:43 <+ShaiGar> get fucked i am not going to eb a crybaby f
09:43 <+ShaiGar> ANVRIL IS GOING TO COME BACK IN AND GIVE ME A CYBER BLOWJOB
09:43 <+ShaiGar> <Anvril> : )
09:43 <+ShaiGar> <Anvril> I will, after I ve eaten something
09:43 -!- Arioch is now known as Arioch|INFPtoday
09:43 <+Spirilis> riiight
09:44 <+Spirilis> Like you didn't make that one up.

(PS- I had to add a space inside all the emoticons so the board would let me post this without complaining "You have included too many images in your post")

[InsurgentAlpha]

Ok, now I dislike him as I detest racist people and comments... :mad:

[Edmond Zedo]

National Socialism is...The will of the Fuhrer.

"Heil Heero! Sieg!..."
"Heil!"
"Sieg..."
"Heil!"
"Sieg!..."
"Heil!"

[Dman]

I don't know what has happened, but the person who wrote the opening post can hardly accuse anyone else having emotional problems. (referring to topic)

lol

[indie]

It's all good, heeroyuy . . . I think I understand where you are coming from . . . *some* kind of shit was bound to happen sooner or later. ;)

[booyalab]

I don't necessarily like Shai Gar, (talking in 3rd person in case he's not coming on anymore and look...if he is on...telling him directly! yay) but I agree with him that if someone has a problem with someone else they should go to that person. If you can't hold your own, start a coffee clutch where you can go on and on about all of the people in your life who suck...and you won't even have to endure a single unpleasant confrontation (I'm not referring to anyone in particular in that statement, I don't even know who we're talking about, that's just my 'flagrant generalization')

[s]

*chuckles*

[s]

Oh, I love a good Coffee "Klatch," but irc... blech.

[Claverhouse]

This is extraordinarily like listening to neighbours in the house next door having a family scream-session. Not that I should imagine most here have had that experience.

After the desire to get one of your fascinating pump-actions ( English shot-guns have a break-action: yours are cooler ) has passed, one lights up and enjoys it. To be sure, one has no idea what Uncle Damien did, or why they wish they'd never set sight on each other, or how each has always been a disappointment: but it's life in the raw. And one's not involved. Even to the point when one should, but doesn't, call for the cops to prevent murder.





Claverhouse :ph34r:

[tragula]

I'm not sure what my two cents are worth, and I still consider myself new even if the silly Senior Member thing has popped up under my name, and I have never been in these chats so I don't know the rules.
But, in all seriousness, I think his comments were totally inapropriate and unacceptable under any circumstances. As were his posts on this thread.
The guys who are running this site seem to be doing a fab job to me, I often wonder what they get out of it, besides agravation...
There have to be some rules people! The balance between censorship and civilized behaviour has to be found or everybody loses.

[Groty]

This is all poo!

#INTP is a community. If Shai Gar made disrespectful comments, everyone should have voiced their disgust at that point rather than take the non-confrontational route.

And yes, I consider the comments in bad taste, at the very least.

[booyalab]

Oh, I love a good Coffee "Klatch," but irc... blech.
oh, is it Klatch? I've only ever heard it, never read it.
I think I wrote "clutch" because I always think of a group of old ladies sitting in a parlor, yammering away, and CLUTCHing their coffee.

[booyalab]

I'm not sure what my two cents are worth, and I still consider myself new even if the silly Senior Member thing has popped up under my name, and I have never been in these chats so I don't know the rules.
But, in all seriousness, I think his comments were totally inapropriate and unacceptable under any circumstances. As were his posts on this thread.
The guys who are running this site seem to be doing a fab job to me, I often wonder what they get out of it, besides agravation...
There have to be some rules people! The balance between censorship and civilized behaviour has to be found or everybody loses.

you're one of THEM! *narrowed eyes*

"jk"

[KentOhio]

This is all poo!
If Shai Gar made disrespectful comments, everyone should have voiced their disgust at that point rather than take the non-confrontational route.

And yes, I consider the comments in bad taste, at the very least.

All very true. I've never been to the chat, but there are going to be problems when people start talking behind others' backs. I didn't think NT's avoided direct confrontation.

Shame on all who criticize him based on the first post of this thread. All the post shows is that he's an INTP. The writing is the work of someone who is normally rational, then all of a sudden experiences unwelcome and unfamiliar feelings. INTP's don't know how to deal with these feelings. We don't have experience with them. Of course the post reads oddly.

[melancholeric]

KentOhio, what the fuck are you talking about?
How exactly do you tell ones type by his posts on a message board?
And how is his type relevant? Cant normal behaviour be required? Even if he is "experiencing unwelcome and unfamiliar feelings?"
I can see his heart bleeding over the temporary ban on one irc channel and some strangers been impolite to him, even though he tried his best to be as considerate as he ever could. Yeah, I feel for him.

[garak]

All very true. I've never been to the chat, but there are going to be problems when people start talking behind others' backs. I didn't think NT's avoided direct confrontation.

Shame on all who criticize him based on the first post of this thread. All the post shows is that he's an INTP. The writing is the work of someone who is normally rational, then all of a sudden experiences unwelcome and unfamiliar feelings. INTP's don't know how to deal with these feelings. We don't have experience with them. Of course the post reads oddly.
Uh, the guy posts quasi-psychotic stuff pretty much all the time. Personally I think he's a pest and I would love to see him banned from here and the irc channel. Call me a fascist, but if a person can't be civilized and reasonable, fuck 'em.

[garak]

some shai gar goodies:

"get bent."

"and that is why i hate her, because now i cant even have sex with her as she is dead."

" someone needs a shotgun to the back of the throat"

"You Suck, talk about your fucking depressed dependant faggotry you whiney cunts couldnt even fucking take issue with me to resolve anything."

"here is to hoping bush tightens domestic restrictions and disallows american use of nonauthorised internet relay chatrooms "because they are hacking breeding grounds" and gets you all killed from a terrorist attack."

"MR FAGGOT SJ

LISTEN MR NANCYBOY WHO IS PROBABLY AN ISFJ

SHUT THE FUCK UP YOURSELF, I THINK THAT YOU ARE A WHORE.

DIE WHORE"

[Biff_Loman]

In spite of myself, the distilled essence of Shai Gar gave me a good chuckle.

Likewise, garak's use of the term "quasi-psychotic." That has a great ring to it.

[Shai Gar]

although i would love to have just kept reading this thread because of the amusement it provides with people knocking me i DO have to say this;

the caps bit was me having a joke with heero, it was a fan the flames with irony post.

the the 2 bits above that was an emotive me responding to an attack on me through irc that i had no warning of.

the three lines above that i have no excuse for and really i am not going to bother explaining they still make me giggle, but perhaps i should have listened to my former housemate and still close friend during the following exchange

me: *giggling*
dalan: "no"
me: "but you havent even heard my idea"
dalan: "you giggled, that means the idea is evil"
me: "but"
dalan: "no"

[melancholeric]

This guy is either a) having serious intellectual, emotional, personal and interpersonal problems or b) a troll (which amounts to pretty much same thing, albeit to a slightly lesser degree).
Either way, he's not contributing anything worthwhile. I'm with garak, ban him.

[Shai Gar]

oh good gods just shut the hell up melan.

i contribute quite a bit more than you. and this is not a contest. just scroll past anything of mine you do not like. garak is not better

[Six]

oh, is it Klatch? I've only ever heard it, never read it.
I think I wrote "clutch" because I always think of a group of old ladies sitting in a parlor, yammering away, and CLUTCHing their coffee.well... actually it is "Klatsch" with an "S" ... or "Kaffeeklatsch" meaning exactly the coffeecupclutching gossiping you metioned http://intpcentral.com/forums/images/smilies/wink.gif

didn't know that this was one of the "Wunderkind"-like imported words... cool http://intpcentral.com/forums/images/smilies/smile.gif

PS: sorry for being off topic... rant on...

[Clara]

Thanks for the vobabulary info, Six. :)

*thinking, Six must somehow manage to read all the posts... how?*

[Claverhouse]

i contribute quite a bit more than you. and this is not a contest.
Someone didn't read the briefing.



Claverhouse :ph34r:

[Arcael]

"here is to hoping bush tightens domestic restrictions and disallows american use of nonauthorised internet relay chatrooms "because they are hacking breeding grounds" and gets you all killed from a terrorist attack."

I actually found this pretty feckin funny :P

[ohnoaninfp]

Geez. I miss a few days in the forum and all hell breaks loose. What happened?

[songbird36]

Shai Gar put his flippers on, strapped on some concrete blocks and took a headlong plunge into the serene and tranquil waters of INTP central...

[Shai Gar]

well... actually it is "Klatsch" with an "S" ... or "Kaffeeklatsch" meaning exactly the coffeecupclutching gossiping you metioned http://intpcentral.com/forums/images/smilies/wink.gif

didn't know that this was one of the "Wunderkind"-like imported words... cool http://intpcentral.com/forums/images/smilies/smile.gif

PS: sorry for being off topic... rant on...
wow, thanks Six. i thought it was a reference to the discworld's strongest coffee the klatchian stuff that makes you knurd

[shaytana]

In spite of myself, the distilled essence of Shai Gar gave me a good chuckle.

Likewise, garak's use of the term "quasi-psychotic." That has a great ring to it.
I agree.

[heeroyuy]

Geez. I miss a few days in the forum and all hell breaks loose. What happened?

ShaiGar was temporarily banned from #intp due to causing disorder within the room and generally being violent/etc toward people (that's in my opinion). A multitude of people within #intp agreed to make him leave.

Chicken was also temporarily banned (for same type of reason), but she contacted me about it and we talked and figured out what was up, and it was mainly a misunderstanding, and she was unbanned within 24 hours.

I spoke to ShaiGar, he didn't seem to want to return, so that's fine, he's welcome to now that his ban period is up.

In retrospect I would've prefered to talk to the person before banning them, but the thought didn't occur to me that night, as I was already stressed. I made the ban through a bot, so he wouldn't privmsg me cursing my spawn for seven generations onward, and I could explain it to him.

He's been unbanned for 'bout 6 days now, and people are _still_ talking about it. Everybody loves a good scandle, but I haven't gotten lynched yet. Wanna be my scapegoat should things get to hot ;)?

[Six]

wow, thanks Six. i thought it was a reference to the discworld's strongest coffee the klatchian stuff that makes you knurd
just for you :smooch:

[ohnoaninfp]

ShaiGar was temporarily banned from #intp due to causing disorder within the room and generally being violent/etc toward people (that's in my opinion). A multitude of people within #intp agreed to make him leave.

Chicken was also temporarily banned (for same type of reason), but she contacted me about it and we talked and figured out what was up, and it was mainly a misunderstanding, and she was unbanned within 24 hours.

I spoke to ShaiGar, he didn't seem to want to return, so that's fine, he's welcome to now that his ban period is up.

In retrospect I would've prefered to talk to the person before banning them, but the thought didn't occur to me that night, as I was already stressed. I made the ban through a bot, so he wouldn't privmsg me cursing my spawn for seven generations onward, and I could explain it to him.

He's been unbanned for 'bout 6 days now, and people are _still_ talking about it. Everybody loves a good scandle, but I haven't gotten lynched yet. Wanna be my scapegoat should things get to hot ;)?

we have a chatroom? How do I get to it? No, I think I will pass on the scapegoat thing.

[heeroyuy]

Alright, well if you're sure, being a scapegoat is fun, heh.

Go to http://www.xchat.org and download the windows version of it. Open it after installation, a server list will pop up. Set you nickname etc, then goto add network. Name it ECNet, then enter a server address in the list of irc.ecnet.org and click the connect button

Once you're connected, type /join #intp


Or alternatively, http://intpcentral.com/intp/irc and just click the "Open Java Chat" and it'll do it all...

The first way is neater though.

[Miss Anthropic]

Uh, the guy posts quasi-psychotic stuff pretty much all the time. Personally I think he's a pest and I would love to see him banned from here and the irc channel. Call me a fascist, but if a person can't be civilized and reasonable, fuck 'em.
Yeah! I second that! :mad:

[mgb]

Uh, the guy posts quasi-psychotic stuff pretty much all the time. Personally I think he's a pest and I would love to see him banned from here and the irc channel. Call me a fascist, but if a person can't be civilized and reasonable, fuck 'em.

Facist.

Just kidding...is that the INTP way? Shouldn't we just shun his "logic" exercises or something (not that I did, I just made mine outlandishly ridiculous, which still got a logical response)

Yeah, do it, someone setup a poll.

edit-

or maybe we could just get him arrested, I think the Australian police are looking for him, that might be more fun.

[Serotonin]

or maybe we could just get him arrested, I think the Australian police are looking for him, that might be more fun.
Maybe he should thank his lucky stars it ain't the 80's, when Joh Bjelke-Peterson was Queensland Premier, and from various anecdotal sources, I would say the Sunshine State was essentially a police state. not like the internet was entirely prevalent in 1987 mind you.
Not like the tropical weather lends itself to hot-headed behaviour anyway... 'tis quite relaxing if you ask me, though I prefer the more temperate Sydney where I live.

[Shai Gar]

actually serotonin, in this region in the 80's Gladstone was a policemans nightmare, crime was everywhere and murder was rife. now the murder rate has gone down a fair bit and other crime has gone up. and to be perfectly honest peterson was not that bad, sure beattie was a breath of fresh air that made queensland nice, but life was not all that bad under joh. how is life under carr

[Claverhouse]

I know nothing about Aussie politics, but he does sound rather annoying, much like our old demented not-yet-dead Lady Thatcher:

Inside Politics Au (http://www.insidepolitics.com.au/ubb/ultimatebb.php?/topic/4/58.html)


Frank lot down under, aren't they ?



Claverhouse :ph34r:

[Shai Gar]

yep. you should of heard what the labour party leader called our PM (arselicker) to his face in parliment question time

[matthew0028]

(PS- I had to add a space inside all the emoticons so the board would let me post this without complaining "You have included too many images in your post")

Out of curiosity, why didn't you just click the "Disable smilies in text" checkbox instead? Would've been far easier, methinks...

[Claverhouse]

PLACE-HOLDER FOR CLASSIC STATUS

[dubbeltop]

wow dude i love this guy give him a day on oprah winfrey and she'll never work again hihihihihiih

[screamingflies]

1 thing
I notice you have a problem with calling people stupid. Realize that this is a lack of intuition on your part..