Announcement about Social Sexual etc Varients!

[todayme]

If you study the enneagram they discuse the difference between sexual, social and self preservation varients. They say that it is hard wiring and that it is largest area of two types not to get along.

It has dawned on me today, and it is my opinion that these varients are not hardwired at all. The varient is not something that is with us our whole life time more a state of mind or a period of our life.

Opinions are welcome.

[Jasz]

i think, more than anything else in MBTI and enneagram types, this is the area where my wife and i most fundamentally differ. the variants seem to me the prime motivators of our social behaviour. differences here will come out and are not easily overcome. mind you that we are an INTP-ESFJ couple and as such we continue to overcome differences in many areas.

[Jennywocky]

It has dawned on me today, and it is my opinion that these varients are not hardwired at all. The varient is not something that is with us our whole life time more a state of mind or a period of our life. Opinions are welcome.

Well, a good place to start would be to ask: What makes you say that?

["?"]

It has dawned on me today, and it is my opinion that these varients are not hardwired at all. The varient is not something that is with us our whole life time more a state of mind or a period of our life. Opinions are welcome.I have to agree with Fortunato. In fact, I would say that your theory is way off base. The variant stack is key, and basic to some enneagram theories. Some others don't use it or wings at all, but more of a tri-fix. However, if you accept the modern enneagram theory, then variants are key. Take a look at how the stackings (http://ocean-moonshine.net/e142857369/index.php?module=pagemaster&PAGE_user_op=view_page&PAGE_id=42&MMN_position=80:80) influence each E-type.

[davesenneagram]

I think the point being made here is whether variants are hardwired or we shift between them.

They seem to me to just have to do with context. Am I focused on myself, my partner or my social group? It seems that these sorts of shifts can be easily learned and practiced through self-awareness. If so, they wouldn't be hardwired, but certain contextual preoccupations could be habitual.

These variants seem to me a relatively recent development by some author. Does anyone know who? I've always known them as instinctual subtypes (that is until someone started stacking them).