Hallo

[Asmodiel]

Hello, everyone. I have recently become more aware of the various personality types(I was aware of them, for I have been exposed to them over the years for brief periods of time). The personality types interest me quite a bit...they allow me to further my subtle observations of people, and place labels upon them. After multiple tests(given to me throughout my years, although in the younger ones the letters meant little to me, for they were not explained in depth, nor were materials provided that gave solid descriptions), and my own analysis of the types, I have settled upon INTP for myself, a label that my peers agree with; and agree with little doubt amongst themselves, they do.

Hopefully the people I find here will be an interesting group, as well as one possessing common courtesy with room for the pleasantries of humor and whatnot.

A bit about myself:

I have 17 years to my name, and I live in Florida. Even though I am wary of people, a favorite among my activities is conversation with those I trust as friends.

Well, pleasure to meet all of you who happen to be a pleasure.

Abschied.

[daughterofeve]

Hello! :hello:

[joft]

The pleasure, I assure you, is mine.

[Clara]

Welcome, Asmodiel :)

I hope that you'll start some of those interesting discussions - maybe you have an idea already?

Am I right in guessing that you're one of the members who speak more than one language?

[Asmodiel]

Am I right in guessing that you're one of the members who speak more than one language?

Indeed, that I do. I speak French, and a moderate amount of German(My family happens to be German, I am only the second of the line to be born in America). I am vastly better at reading German, and understanding it when spoken, than I am at speaking it out of my own mouth. I do fairly well with my French, considering that I lack a person that I can speak with in French on a regular basis.

I plan to be fluent in several languages by the time my life is come to a close. In French and German, of course, but then I shall extend my studies to Japanese(I find isolationist languages to be facinating), Romanian, Russian, and either Hebrew or Arabic.

[xavierd]

Hello and welcome. Where in Florida?

[Asmodiel]

Towards the middle.

[Boneca]

Nice to see a fellow language enthusiast. Why settle for the easy and common languages when you can study Japanese!? ;)
(A tip - try Finnish...it's as different and useless as anything but is easier to write that the Asian ones.)

Welcome to the forums anyhow.

[melancholeric]

(A tip - try Finnish...it's as different and useless as anything but is easier to write that the Asian ones.)

Now I am hurt. The only language I have any grasp of, and now I hear it's useless.

(Although my experience doesn't really support this.)

Oh, and welcome, Asmodiel.

[echo]

I am vastly better at reading German, and understanding it when spoken, than I am at speaking it out of my own mouth.

me too. i've been doing the pimsleur thing to get a little more practice though.

[Asmodiel]

A Scandinavian tongue would actually be quite useful to have...due to the fact that the languages of that area are, for the most part, mutually intelligible. If I learn one, I will be mostly understood by the populace of that area, no matter their language. Finnish is interesting...it has a very agglumative nature, making it possible to create words of extraordinary length.

I do not find Japanese to be extremely hard(the concepts behind it)...just...different. It is easily conquerable with study.

I choose languages as a bridge, in a sense. My french will allow me to delve into Romanian easily, for it is a fellow Romance language. Also, the cases in German will also assist in Romanian. Romanian can then be used as a bridge into latin.

[Boneca]

Now I am hurt. The only language I have any grasp of, and now I hear it's useless. Eh, I actually thought of you just after I posted this and wondered if you would react. I meant, it is useless to me because you guys all know English. But I'm still trying to learn it, so that makes me an idiot, not you. :)

By the way, Asmodiel, you made the classical mistake every non-scandinavian seems to make. All Scandinavian languages are pretty much interchangable except Finnish. Knowing Finnish, you might understand about five words of Estonian, another few words of the even more useful Same language, and...well, nothing else. But it's a cool language nonetheless. Any language that can put five 'ä' in the same word is worth learning in my opinion.

[melancholeric]

Finnish is interesting...it has a very agglumative nature, making it possible to create words of extraordinary length.

Lautalattiajäljitelmäkokolattiamatto.
Epäjärjestelmällistyttämättömyydellänsäkäänköhän.
Lentokonesuihkuturbiinimoottoriapumekaanikkoaliupseerioppilas.
Edit: apparently the forum software doesn't like the last one. Too long?

[Boneca]

Eh, make that 10 'ä'. Anteeksi.

[Asmodiel]

By the way, Asmodiel, you made the classical mistake every non-scandinavian seems to make. All Scandinavian languages are pretty much interchangable except Finnish. Knowing Finnish, you might understand about five words of Estonian, another few words of the even more useful Same language, and...well, nothing else. But it's a cool language nonetheless. Any language that can put five 'ä' in the same word is worth learning in my opinion.

I'm aware of that. Perhaps I should have separated my comment on Finnish from the paragraph for clarity...that is one of the purposes behind "for the most part" ;)

[melancholeric]

Swedish would probably more useful. And certainly easier. On the other hand, I never learned more than a few words of it at school.

[Boneca]

Swedish would probably more useful. And certainly easier. On the other hand, I never learned more than a few words of it at school.Easier yes, but why would it be more useful? Nearly all Swedes (and Norwegians and Danes) understand English too.
But that's not the point. Since when do INTP's learn stuff only because it's useful? ;)

I'm sorry for misjudging you, Asmodiel. You are indeed knowledgeable about languages then.

[Asmodiel]

No worries, Boneca. Sometimes I write things in far too subtle a manner....

[Sugaraddict2702]

Also, the cases in German will also assist in Romanian. Romanian can then be used as a bridge into latin.

hmm, if you want a bridge into latin, you ought to learn italian, that's about the closest you can get. and latin has two more cases than german, so it would not be that easy to make the crossover.

[melancholeric]

Easier yes, but why would it be more useful? Nearly all Swedes (and Norwegians and Danes) understand English too.
But that's not the point. Since when do INTP's learn stuff only because it's useful? ;)


You said it yourself a few posts ago.


All Scandinavian languages are pretty much interchangable except Finnish. Knowing Finnish, you might understand about five words of Estonian, another few words of the even more useful Same language, and...well, nothing else.

Semi-relevant anecdote: When I took Swedish in high school, the teacher played a tape of a native Danish speaker. No one in the class could make any sense of the gibberish we heard. (No intentional offense for native speakers of that language.) However, when we saw it written, it was nearly identical to Swedish. (Even I could understand a few words. And I had horrible problems with the language at school. Now i've forgotten pretty much everything that I didn't learn.)

Besides, most Finns seem to speak English too.

[Asmodiel]

hmm, if you want a bridge into latin, you ought to learn italian, that's about the closest you can get. and latin has two more cases than german, so it would not be that easy to make the crossover.

Yes, Italian is closer...however, I have more of an interest in Romanian.

Also, I do not have a use for Latin, really, except for the knowledge. I suppose I would be able to read some classical text, perhaps...

Two more cases, of that I am aware....but, really, what's two more cases? ;)