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Jacque
17 Feb 2007, 07:46 PM
Too Sense: Wall Street Journal Claims Obama is "Unelectable" Because of Name, Race (http://illinoisreview.typepad.com/obamawatch/2007/01/too_sense_wall_.html)

"Mr. Obama exudes the charisma, authenticity and optimism that many Democrats find lacking in Mrs. Clinton. Yet while he was raised in Hawaii by his white mother and grandparents from Kansas, his public identity is defined by the African skin and Muslim name inherited from his late father, Barack Hussein Obama, of Kenya. Inevitably Democrats ask: Would Americans elect an African-American, and one whose name rhymes with the terrorist they most revile?"


The Obama Illusion
Presidential ambitions from the start (http://zmagsite.zmag.org/Feb2007/street0207.html)

"If the Democrats? candidate in 2008 is Obama, we can be sure that the right-wing Republican noise machine will denounce the nation?s potential first non-white male president as a dangerous ?leftist.? The charge will be absurd, something that will hardly stop numerous people on the portside of the narrow U.S. political spectrum from claiming Obama as a fellow ?progressive.? Certain to be encouraged by Obama and his handlers, this confusion will reflect the desperation and myopia that shaky thinking and the limited choices of the U.S. electoral system regularly instill in liberals and some squishy near leftists."


The right attacks Obama's identity (race and name), though not his pro-business positions. The left attacks his ideaology. People I've talked to said that they would vote for him if they thought America was "ready" for a black president. So here we have the institutional racism of the Wall Street Journal (Business/Media), the dissonant racism of the American people, and the you're-a-traitor-to-your-skin racism of the Progressive left wing. With friends like these, who needs racists.

I must state, however, that I'm still skeptical of Obama the person, but impressed with the idea of Obama as the first black presidential contender. That would create opportunities and set precedents for presidential candidates of color. I'm not pleased with what America currently has to offer in terms of leadership, but I'm extremely hopeful in what America might offer in future when the our options as voters expand with a diversified playing field. Though much more could be said on our decrepit election system.

demagogic_schizoid
18 Feb 2007, 03:23 PM
Is he likely to be more hated by conservative America than Hillary Clinton? If the Democrats choose her over this young, charismatic, exciting candidate - whatever his ethnicity - then they simply do not deserve to be in power. Now, I'm not idealising him, the craze over him reminds me a bit of Tony Blair in the early days, but he does seem like the perfect antidote to Dubya right now.

Schuyler
18 Feb 2007, 05:18 PM
*sneeze*Clark (http://www.securingamerica.com)*/sneeze*


Umm, I don't know about Obama. As a Joneser he has a great deal of appeal towards the 18-55 age group, but the classic boomers really are whats going to decide this. In previous elections the WWII and Korea generation voters were a large segment of the voting population, but they are starting to thin out, and I think that Obama's Corisma might just give him enough appeal to the younger-ish voters to get him in... it really all depends on the age demographics of this next election, if you ask me.

Jacque
18 Feb 2007, 06:27 PM
The idea that Obama is a social climbing, cynical, self centered Xer doesn't improve his image. And the Boomers have already broken enough things. Bring back the Traditionalists?

Martoon
18 Feb 2007, 09:17 PM
He'll do fine, as long as he doesn't get a running mate named sin Laden.









(sorry)

Toonia
19 Feb 2007, 04:41 PM
I don't know much about his ideology, but if he is moderate, that's always a good thing imo. I tend to prefer any candidate who isn't extreme in their ideology, since they are leading such diverse people. It seems crucial in a leader to be able to consider multiple viewpoints and have wisdom to apply whichever is best in a particular scenario, rather than bludgeoning ahead with preset, closed-minded presumptions. I think America is ready for a black president. It could be especially advantageous in international diplomacy to have a clear statement of diversity of ethnicity and cultural ideals. I always thought Colin Powell could be an awesome President, but he's too smart for that ambition i'm afraid. He always seemed very clear-minded and rational.

Jennywocky
19 Feb 2007, 04:50 PM
I always thought Colin Powell could be an awesome President, but he's too smart for that ambition i'm afraid. He always seemed very clear-minded and rational.

I thought the same thing about Colin. He was too good to be president.

Sad, that the most ideal candidates for a public office such as that one usually weed themselves out of the running. (It's almost like we should search for the person who DOESN'T want the job and hire them instead.)

Martoon
19 Feb 2007, 05:31 PM
Sad, that the most ideal candidates for a public office such as that one usually weed themselves out of the running. (It's almost like we should search for the person who DOESN'T want the job and hire them instead.)
I like it! Should we start lobbying for a presidential draft?

Schuyler
19 Feb 2007, 05:43 PM
I like it! Should we start lobbying for a presidential draft?

*clark clark clark clark clark*

Remember, he got "drafted" into the 2004 campaign as well. And the reason he has held off on deciding about 2008 for so long is that he honestly wants to help positively influence our current foreign policy without any accusations of being political. This is not just his party line, this is actually the case.

booyalab
19 Feb 2007, 07:32 PM
That would create opportunities and set precedents for presidential candidates of color.

This sentence doesn't mean anything. The supposedly more racially 'evolved', or whatever, party has fewer notable African-American names to it's credit than the supposedly racist party.
What does that tell us? Democrats are so backwards they dont even realize that Americans are way past prioritizing skin color over individual merit.