Kuranes intro

[kuranes]

Hi, new guy here. i joined this to make new friends like me or to learn things. I live in the Chicago area. My interests are in the arts and science. These are rather broad categories, but to do justice to the myriad detailed aspects would be, I think, beyond the scope of this intro. I did a search on "singles", "HPL", "China Mieville", and some other things but haven't turned up much yet. I will keep looking. These subjects in quotes are just the first impulses that came to my head. Any rockhounds out there in INTP land? I read a description of an INTP that said we tend to enjoy music that conveys an atmosphere, which is certainly true in my case. It sounded like Shostakovich was at the top of the list, and so I will have to check him out. I have enjoyed many composers over the years. Miles Davis and Brian Eno come to mind. Early Pink Floyd. Have I touched any nerves yet? Are there very many females in these discussions? Obvious question for a single guy. Not that meeting INTP/xSFJ women is the sole purpose of my probing. :huh:

[Shai Gar]

WOO HOO first post

[melancholeric]

Welcome.
There's this voice in my head that this wouldn't be the best possible place for a single male seeking for female.
And Pink Floyd rocks, though early Floyd (late sixties) isn't exactly as good as their seventies material. And anything they've done since The Wall pretty much sucked.

[Shai Gar]

GDay Kuranes, it sounds like you will fit right in here, i hope you have fun, i hope you brought your bathers, and i hope you have enough dope to send me a pound or so

i have done a few searches like that, but mine were along the lines of "naked alyson hannigan, buffy and willow erotic stories, that 70's show porn,and hardcore hippies" but unlike you i never come away empty handed.

oh and a majority of the people here are women

[matthew0028]

Welcome from one newbie to another.


oh and a majority of the people here are women

More than half? I didn't notice that.

[shaytana]

We should do another poll now that there are a lot more members but I wouldn't say half are female. Probably about 35%, that's my guess (do I get the Jellybean jar if I'm right?).

[shaytana]

oh, and Welcome kuranes

[Killsteel]

Hello Kuranes...

PS. If no-one else has made one, I'll get on it straight away. Where should I put it? In introductions?

[kuranes]

Welcome.
There's this voice in my head that this wouldn't be the best possible place for a single male seeking for female.
And Pink Floyd rocks, though early Floyd (late sixties) isn't exactly as good as their seventies material. And anything they've done since The Wall pretty much sucked.

I mostly agree with you about Floyd. My favorite albums of theirs are "Meddle" and "Umma Gumma" from the early 70's, although I did greatly enjoy "Piper at the Gates of Dawn", their first. Although I didn't think their later material was as good as the early 70's stuff, it was only most of "The Final Cut" that was a bit of a turn-off, and I wasn't crazy about "The Division Bell" either. Even its best moments seem simply "echoes" of the older material. "Momentary Lapse of Reason" was indeed, as some claimed, really more of a Gilmour solo, but Gilmour was almost always very good, once he got wailing. I rather liked "Sorrow" and "Learning to Fly" and "Yet Another Movie" on MLR. Still your point might be that "one out of three aint so good", which is true. After all, "Pulse" was just live oldies. I didn't care for ANY of Roger's solo stuff much, though, even though it was his writing that gave Gilmour something to hang his musicianship on in Floyd. Great songwriters are not always great musicians, witness Pete Townshend. Gilmour was not a great songwriter, but he was good enough that the overall solo product is still fun, where Roger's great songwriting couldn't cover up his nearly absent musicianship. Even the addition of Clapton couldn't save him on his first, and arguably best effort. Gilmour even had to cover Roger on his bass parts frequently back in the pre-solo days of Floyd. Nevertheless, when people talk about the later version of the group being so bad as to "suck" I don't feel so strongly. The same holds true for the Stones, who are now just shadows of their former selves. Still at that, they're better than many. There are some groups out there which are more about attitude than music, and hide their "record any old noise" attitude under the banner of "experimental" or "punk in spirit". If pressed, I might be more likely to use the extreme criticism of "sucks" to THOSE groups, even though I could still enjoy myself/them in a live atmosphere whilst dancing around to some of the more tuneful vs. dissonant/atonal types, as they do their irreverent thang. I realize this is considered "unhip", but we're rebels here, right? This is not to say that I dislike all the avant garde stuff. Some is great. I buy a lot from Downtown Records in NYC. Any INTP'rs familiar with them? Very good source. Kuranes

[kuranes]

Hello Kuranes...

PS. If no-one else has made one, I'll get on it straight away. Where should I put it? In introductions?

Thanks for the hello. I brought up several areas that i was looking into in my original message. Not sure which one your P.S. refers to. Feel free to start up threads on ALL if you like, hee hee. Ever notice the instructions on a bottle of shower/tub shampoo? After the original words to guide you on the complicated process of getting a lather up, they will often say "Repeat if desired". Kills me!

[Clara]

kuranes, welcome!

A geologist, eh? :hello:

I was going to say, someone should start a thread... and look, PsiKik has : t=1962 "do u think the net is a way to meet people?"
I agree with Edmond, the poll question has different implications than the thread title. (Maybe PsiKik assumed that this discussion, too, would go in several directions? :D )

kuranes, there have been many reminders lately, to look things up... I found this, for you:
http://www.chicagohistory.org/KFO/KFO.html - Did you know that?
(... included here for the amazing coincidences: like your username, theirs begin with "ku..." and, Chicago ...)

[Serotonin]

"As I was walking down the street one day..." *big brass*
"Does anybody really know what time it is?
Does anybody even care?"

For the music cogniscenti only, which you sound like you're a member of kuranes. Welcome.

[Clara]

"As I was walking down the street one day..." *big brass*
"Does anybody really know what time it is?
Does anybody even care?"
For the music cogniscenti only, which you sound like you're a member of kuranes. Welcome.
Wow, Serotonin - I'm not... but I heard that, as I read it. :happppy: *hmmm.*

[kuranes]

I wonder if I should say how/why I picked the name Kuranes? If i do it will lose its mystery. Hmmm. ;^D OK, I'll tell you. Having had the impulse, when I first discovered the site, to see if a thread on HPL was going, I decided to use a character of his to be my "handle", since I was being asked for one. The kneejerk pick for that would be "Pickman" or "Ray Carter", probably, unless I wanted to sound Muahaha and go with "Yog-Sothoth". I elected to choose instead the minor character Kuranes because of his impractical penchant for dreaming vs. doing; an achilles heel of mine which I am somewhat perversely proud of. Kuranes appears in the story "Celephais" first, which HPL wrote when he was just getting started, and still very influenced by Dunsany. It's a short read, if you care to check it out. Not terribly memorable, though, other than revealing HPL's fondness for odd sounding and evocative words and some sentiment, the "words" part being eclipsed by CAS. Kuranes also appears in HPL's short novel "The Dream Quest of Unknown Kadath". Associating yourself with Lovecraft is always a bit risky, as he was a recluse his whole life, an extreme INTP probably, and is not known for good dialogue or realistic females. In fact most elements of his style are lampooned these days. But he wrote his stories, many of which were weakened by these aforementioned points of cliche by editors, in the 1920's, before SF and Fantasy had separated into two different schools. Many concepts that we take for granted today were created by him. It is Howard Philips Lovecraft that the "Howard" award is named after ( not Robert E. Howard, a friend of HPL's, and fellow writer ) and given at the yearly World Fantasy Convention. So many people have since jumped on the HPL "bandwagon", shamelessly "adding" to the "Cthulhu Mythos" by aping -not so much his style as his content/plot choices - that today the mention of his name often conjures up fashionably cast geekdom images, a la the word "Trekkies". Too bad. Anyway, that's that. I'm familiar with Kukla, Fran, and Ollie, and therefore show my age. It was a kind of predecessor to Sesame Street. I moved to Chicago in the late 70's, and wasn't aware it had been created here, like the Bozo show. ( Should I segue at this point to Firesign? No. ) The magazine "Weird Tales", that CAS, REH, and HPL wrote for was also here. And that's why I came to Chicago!!!!! Just kidding, about this last statement. ( Although I do confess a real 1976 interest in becoming involved with "the Hairy Who", which involvement never happened. ) I am not a Geologist, but do collect rocks and minerals. More on "why" later. Yes, I'm a big music freak. I'll have to talk to Seotonin about this, and whoever else is interested in unusual music. Clara, I will look for some of these online recommendations you mention people have made for me to check out. I'm still stumbling around as far as learning how to use this site, and have limited time. I once had an oportunity to buy a painting of a crow sitting alone on a tree in a canyon. The tree looked vaguely anthropomorphic and was also alone. No other life forms in the canyon. The title was "Yo Soy Solo", and the painter was rumored to be Castaneda! Thanks for your interest. K

[Clara]

Mmm. Mystery is boring (imho ;) not)
What/ who is HPL?
Oh, and, wecome, again :)

ps. (forgot!) Any thoughts on a sideways themesong, for the M(issing)I(n)A(ction) thread... (see Suggestion Box forum) - not having an opinion is a valid option, mind you.

And, thanks for answering the unasked...! :huh: heh.

[kuranes]

HPL is Howard Philips Lovecraft, as i explained in the last post.

K

[Clara]

Oh (pretend :blush: ) *heehee* missed that, sorry.

Fake:rant: : "Use paragraphs" ;) Glad you arrived here, by the way :)

[matthew0028]

About all I know about Lovecraft, and the Cthulu mythos, is the little I've heard from others. Well, that and I've played in several Call of Cthulu RPGs, as well as a ShadowRun RPG with a Cthulu bent...

[kuranes]

Welcome from one newbie to another.



More than half? I didn't notice that.


Hi Matthew ( Matt OK? ) I haven't got very far into games yet, whether they be computer or "Dungeons and Dragons" type tabletop games. I have a feeling that they could be quite addicting, and I haven't opened that Pandora box up yet. I heard good things about Myst, and so I plan on getting something like that eventually. It's supposed to be a thinking person's game, but not so "thinking" that it's more story problem, like "if pickles are 53 cents, and beer is 3 shillings, given the current conversion rates, how many such 'meals' would it take to fill YOUR shoe size, and why is that similar to someone ELSE's shoe size divided by the number of pickles?" "But the bear was WHITE, and so we could be on the North Pole, which would be an exception to the USUAL rules of triangulation. Therefore . . ." Some of those things are quite tedious. I did play an HPL game once, but it was kind of like most board games, except that they used some characters from Lovecraft vs. other tokens. Some of his stories are fun, if you enjoy reading, especially SF/Fantasy. It's mostly not like Tolkien, and more like an "antique sort of Stephen King", who admits HPL was one of his biggest inspirations. Favorite stories are "The Outsider", "The Dreams in the Witch House", and "The Shadow over Innsmouth." Many more. it's not what is considered "hard" science fiction, either. Actually the words "fiction" and "hard" in that sense, are kind of clashing, but some things are more plausible than others in the genre. I've never let that stop me from a good story, though, which at least has a veneer of plausibility and good characters. With HPL, it's really all about atmosphere, even if some of his "surprises" are easy to guess. His characters are not realistic, but it's just fun to get into his strangely skewed views. If you can enjoy things like the flowery way that Edgar Allen Poe talked, rather than feeling such things get in the way of your reading, then you may like him. If you do like HPL, try Clark Ashton Smith too, who was even more of a an exotic wordsmith, and evoked the "gilded age" and other past or ancient times just in the way he sounded, to say nothing yet of content. Modern day writers of "the new weird" are guys like China Mieville, whose "Perdido Street Station" I thought was cool. Supposedly INTP's dig SF, but no one here seems to be talking about it that i've notoiced so far. Maybe it's buried in some archive that I'm supposed to dig through before introducing subjects that people have already talked out. Not sure. Have you been checking this site out for a while? Any tips?

[kuranes]

kuranes, welcome!

A geologist, eh? :hello:

I was going to say, someone should start a thread... and look, PsiKik has : t=1962 "do u think the net is a way to meet people?"
I agree with Edmond, the poll question has different implications than the thread title. (Maybe PsiKik assumed that this discussion, too, would go in several directions? :D )

kuranes, there have been many reminders lately, to look things up... I found this, for you:
http://www.chicagohistory.org/KFO/KFO.html - Did you know that?
(... included here for the amazing coincidences: like your username, theirs begin with "ku..." and, Chicago ...)

Clara - i didn't notice many other reminders of things I need to reply to or follow up. I did a search on my name and browsed around in some forums, but I guess I missed them. Either that or you are just pulling my leg, as you admitted to doing earlier.

I'm an artist of sorts, and I'm planning on using the stones in my art in the future.

K

[matthew0028]

Hi Matthew ( Matt OK? )
Sure; "Matt" is fine.

Supposedly INTP's dig SF, but no one here seems to be talking about it that i've notoiced so far. Maybe it's buried in some archive that I'm supposed to dig through before introducing subjects that people have already talked out. Not sure. Have you been checking this site out for a while? Any tips?
I've only been checking this site for less than a week, actually. Though my suggestion would be to use the search feature to see if anyone's talking about it. Otherwise, just start up a thread and see what people think.