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Swift
14 Jan 2005, 08:40 PM
Hey!

I don't remember how long ago I stumbled onto the MBTI, but it never let go of me. I always tested as an INTP (exceptionally INTJ), with strong I, N and T, and a more balanced P (but definately P, although I have been in doubt about that for a long period of time). I guess the responsibilities of studying are the cause of the P/J balancing.

- Sports: as long as it is solitary (swimming, ice-skating) or with friends (bowling, playing pool)

- Hobby's: reading (non-fiction only, especially MBTI and psychology books and World War II), dancing and going out (but not too much), playing board games and discussing politics with friends, surfing the Net, travelling, ...


Can't wait to jump in ;-)

Swift

PS: Where are the Europeans around here? :smooch:

mgb
14 Jan 2005, 09:23 PM
Hello Swift.

The Europeans are around. Or booyalab (our nazi) has them tied up in her closet with her albino midget.

MjrMarshmellows
14 Jan 2005, 09:28 PM
They have INTP's in BELGIUM?

Wow... you learn something new everyday.

(I can't help my self)

100th post!!!

(I'm a SENIOR)

Boneca
14 Jan 2005, 09:34 PM
The Europeans are right here. :)

Welcome!

Edit: c'mon mgbradsh, it's enough work with the liberation of the midgets, it'll get confusing if we have to liberate ourselves at the same time.

Claverhouse
14 Jan 2005, 09:53 PM
Not merely Europeans, the peak of human evolution, but Belgians also...

Sugaraddict2702 for one.

Welcome to the Belgae.



Claverhouse :ph34r:

mgb
14 Jan 2005, 11:02 PM
The Europeans are right here. :)

Welcome!

Edit: c'mon mgbradsh, it's enough work with the liberation of the midgets, it'll get confusing if we have to liberate ourselves at the same time.

Better not let booyalab find out that you got out.

Crazy
14 Jan 2005, 11:32 PM
Oh great, not another metric system advocate!


J/K, welcome

melancholeric
14 Jan 2005, 11:50 PM
Oh great, not another metric system advocate!

Quiet, you.


And welcome.

Vagabond
15 Jan 2005, 12:56 AM
Hey. :hello:

matthew0028
15 Jan 2005, 05:08 AM
Hi! :hello:

(Damn, but do I love these smileys...)

Clara
15 Jan 2005, 07:27 AM
Hello :hello:

Swift, ApeTheDog is another Belgian.

Geoff
15 Jan 2005, 12:03 PM
Hello and welcome, from a fringe European (well, Brit) :cheers:

Keep meaning another visit to Belgium, my SO has a thing for Belgian fruit lambic beers -particularly the Raspberry ones, Frambozen (sp?), and there is nothing quite like the chocolate shops of Bruges :-)

-Geoff

Six
15 Jan 2005, 12:16 PM
The Europeans are around. Or booyalab (our nazi) has them tied up in her closet with her albino midget.
yeah...but she's letting us out on the weekends...


so.... Welcome :hello:


I'm happy for every Euopean nose as the Canadians seemed to get the upper hand here... :devil:

no serious... in Germany the MBTI is anything but common knowledge... I wouldn't have mind to have taken the test ten years ago...
don't know how it is in other European countries...
here it is way to go... go out and spread the not-so-news...

Geoff
15 Jan 2005, 12:25 PM
Re : Europeans and MBTI.

Here in the UK most people in my business professional environment have either heard of it or had a test as one of those bonding days or whatever.

Outside of the business world, noone much seems to have heard of it.

-Geoff

Napoleon
15 Jan 2005, 05:10 PM
Welcome swift,

From where in Belgium are you? I happen to be from Belgium to :)

I study Sports at Uni Ghent.
Nice to see some fellow Belgium people, i am planning to move btw :p

GreetZ,


Napoleon

mgb
15 Jan 2005, 05:28 PM
yeah...but she's letting us out on the weekends...


awww, that is sweet. Did she make you guys some little passes if you promised to come back?

Keira5002
15 Jan 2005, 05:51 PM
Hello.

I'm also new here and from Europe.

INTP here, who also likes solitary sports and pool, bowling and board games (especially word games) with friends and reading psychology books.. Actually.. We almost have the same interests!

Isn't that just.. Weird.

Welcome.

Swift
16 Jan 2005, 10:39 AM
Keep meaning another visit to Belgium, my SO has a thing for Belgian fruit lambic beers -particularly the Raspberry ones, Frambozen (sp?), and there is nothing quite like the chocolate shops of Bruges :-)You have very good taste :cheers: I like the cherry beer the most.

Swift

Swift
16 Jan 2005, 10:43 AM
I'm happy for every Euopean nose as the Canadians seemed to get the upper hand here... :devil:

no serious... in Germany the MBTI is anything but common knowledge... I wouldn't have mind to have taken the test ten years ago...
don't know how it is in other European countries...
here it is way to go... go out and spread the not-so-news... I think it's because in North-America they test everybody in high school or college or something, and it seems psychology students can even take special MBTI classes.

Here in Belgium, the only book about MBTI that was translated in dutch was "Nurture by nature" by the Tiegers. I had to order other books from my bookshop. It takes 4-6 weeks before they arrive, but hey, it's worth it.

Where in Germany do you live?

Swift

Swift
16 Jan 2005, 10:46 AM
I study Sports at Uni Ghent.
Nice to see some fellow Belgium people, i am planning to move btw :p
I live and study in Antwerp. I like Ghent very much, almost as much as I like Antwerp. :thumbup:

Swift
16 Jan 2005, 10:49 AM
I'm also new here and from Europe.

INTP here, who also likes solitary sports and pool, bowling and board games (especially word games) with friends and reading psychology books.. Actually.. We almost have the same interests!

Isn't that just.. Weird. What country are you from?
Weird? No, I like to meet people that share the same interests as me. It makes me more acceptant of myself.

Swift

PS: Is starting a poll restricted for users with a certain number of posts?

Sugaraddict2702
16 Jan 2005, 11:14 AM
hey there,

I'm from Ieper, heading to Leuven or Brussels next year.
hmm, for such a small country I dare say our number on the board is quite high. not that I mind of course :cheers: and I *love* cherry beer

welcome to the board

Sugaraddict2702
16 Jan 2005, 11:17 AM
They have INTP's in BELGIUM?

Wow... you learn something new everyday.

(I can't help my self)



:blink: am I missing a common truth about belgians here?

Swift
16 Jan 2005, 11:45 AM
I'm from Ieper, heading to Leuven or Brussels next year.
hmm, for such a small country I dare say our number on the board is quite high. not that I mind of course :cheers: and I *love* cherry beer Cool. More Belgians! We can have meetups! :hug:

Six
16 Jan 2005, 11:59 AM
I think it's because in North-America they test everybody in high school or college or something, and it seems psychology students can even take special MBTI classes. which doesn't seem to be the worst idea... I don't want to say that the MBTI-results should be some sort of a dogma... after all it's just a test.
but it might have given me a different direction.

in school or at university I've never heard of the MBTI...
I've heard that some of the bigger firms are doing the test in the course of assessment centers.


Here in Belgium, the only book about MBTI that was translated in dutch was "Nurture by nature" by the Tiegers. I had to order other books from my bookshop. It takes 4-6 weeks before they arrive, but hey, it's worth it.is there no Belgian amazon?
what's your favorite MBTI-book so far?


Where in Germany do you live?some relatively little village (~ 4000 ppl) close to Bingen, which is at the beginning of the Middle Rhine Valley... about 45 minutes west of Frankfurt

Swift
16 Jan 2005, 12:18 PM
is there no Belgian amazon?
what's your favorite MBTI-book so far? I don't know about a Belgian amazon... I don't have a creditcard anyway so I just order the books through my local bookshop. No trouble with the mail, customs and extra taxes and shit.

My favourite book is "Personality type" by Lenore Thomson. Awesome to learn more about yourself and people you know very well, but not so interesting to type people you don't know really well, cause it's very in-depth.

Second favourite is PUM II. More about behaviour than inner blueprint, so more handy for people you don't know so well.

What is your favourite MBTI book?

Swift

Six
16 Jan 2005, 12:51 PM
I don't know about a Belgian amazon... I don't have a creditcard anyway so I just order the books through my local bookshop. No trouble with the mail, customs and extra taxes and shit. hm... here a credit card isn't essential for ordering books... they just debit the sum from my bank-account... had no problems for the last... 8 years.
as for extra taxes... I don't think there are any...
English paperbacks are often cheaper than the German translated version. the €-price is really close to the $-price.


What is your favourite MBTI book?aehm... to be honest I haven't read any so far http://intpcentral.com/forums/images/smilies/ninja.gif

I took the test somewhen last year...
the only book I bought afterwards was an Enneagramm-book as I didn't understand what was behind that test. well... actually I still don't http://intpcentral.com/forums/images/smilies/wink.gif
and for that book... it was about all possible types so the part about my tested type was rather slim. no real insights there http://intpcentral.com/forums/images/smilies/tongue10.gif

but I'm working on it. definitely gonna check out those books you metioned http://intpcentral.com/forums/images/smilies/glasses.gif

Keira5002
16 Jan 2005, 05:32 PM
What country are you from?
Weird? No, I like to meet people that share the same interests as me. It makes me more acceptant of myself.

Swift

PS: Is starting a poll restricted for users with a certain number of posts?

I'm from Finland. Yeah, it's great to meet people who have similar interests :) It's just that I'm still a bit in awe about the MBTI. Jung was definately a perceiving/ perceptive person.

I guess someone else could tell you about the polls? I've no idea.

Swift
16 Jan 2005, 05:42 PM
I'm from Finland. Yeah, it's great to meet people who have similar interests :) It's just that I'm still a bit in awe about the MBTI. Jung was definately a perceiving person. It appears there are quite some Scandinavians on this board.

Jung was an INTP, just like us, and so is Keirsey. I guess it's typical for INTP's to try to systemize personality traits into esily recognizable cathegory's.

Swift

Six
16 Jan 2005, 06:08 PM
PS: no restriction on polls as far as I know...

Edmond Zedo
16 Jan 2005, 06:23 PM
It appears there are quite some Scandinavians on this board.

Jung was an INTP, just like us, and so is Keirsey. I guess it's typical for INTP's to try to systemize personality traits into esily recognizable cathegory's.

Swift
As usual, interest is related to ability, and personality typing flows through my brain at least like hot, sweet, Kentucky molasses, or alternatively, PD.

melancholeric
16 Jan 2005, 06:59 PM
It appears there are quite some Scandinavians on this board.

Swift
It's sad, isn't?

Swift
22 Mar 2005, 05:14 PM
It's sad, isn't?If you say so.

ApeTheDog
23 Mar 2005, 02:51 PM
Yes, I'm also from Belgium. I knew Swift was because he talked some dutch to me in a thread once, which was really nice, but I didn't know that there were two more Belgians here.

I'm from Menen, which is close to Ieper. I have some relatives there - I hope nobody here is one of them...

Sugaraddict2702
23 Mar 2005, 03:09 PM
Well, ApeTheDog, I'm actually from Ieper. Don't have family in Menen though. If you happen to drop by, let me know.

ApeTheDog
23 Mar 2005, 03:18 PM
Yes, I knew you were. I was afraid that you would be one of my neices, which would make the family meeting I have to go to once a year really weird. So good job on not being related to me!

Swift
23 Mar 2005, 05:32 PM
So many INTP's from the West Corner....

Must be in-breeding. Sure you're not related? ;)

Swift

ApeTheDog
23 Mar 2005, 05:39 PM
I'm sure there are many, many INTP's in antwerp as well. And once they learn how to read they'll probably come here too.

Swift
23 Mar 2005, 07:02 PM
Yeah, maybe after those West-Flemings have learned to pronunciate an "H".

ApeTheDog
23 Mar 2005, 07:07 PM
Yeah, maybe after those Antwerps have learned to say 'pronounce' correctly.

Sugaraddict2702
24 Mar 2005, 06:38 AM
Yes, I knew you were. I was afraid that you would be one of my neices, which would make the family meeting I have to go to once a year really weird. So good job on not being related to me!

no problem. I tend to think I'm not really related to anyone in my family...

Sugaraddict2702
24 Mar 2005, 06:40 AM
Must be in-breeding.
Swift

watch that! :laser:

you're just jealous of the high number of INTP's in the west corner ;P

yvre
24 Mar 2005, 10:20 AM
;P
Another one from Belgium (except I'm extrovert and from the french speaking part of the country).

Swift
24 Mar 2005, 10:45 AM
except I'm extrovert and from the french speaking part of the countryThere must be something positive you could say about yourself? ;P

yvre
24 Mar 2005, 06:24 PM
There must be something positive you could say about yourself? ;P

:rant:

Hey, these are actually the only positive things I can say about me!
Joke aside, (:cheers: gotta love those smilies) I think it's a shame MBTI is not used more in 'continental Europe' (it's a very anglo-saxon thing). Had I known about it a few years ago, I would definitely have made different choices...

Sugaraddict2702
24 Mar 2005, 07:13 PM
;P
Another one from Belgium (except I'm extrovert and from the french speaking part of the country).

where exacly are you from, yvre?

Swift
24 Mar 2005, 07:13 PM
So what is your type, where do you live, what do you do, etc...

Tell me something about yourself please.

Swift

yvre
25 Mar 2005, 09:10 AM
OK, I hate talking about myself but here goes...
As I said above, I'm ENTP, but with a relatively low E.
I currently live in Rebecq (close to Halle) but I've also lived in Brussels for quite some years. I work in a very big japanese car company (you figure it out...), where I've been boring myself to death for the past 5 years (I handle budgets, so much for my love of creativity and improvisation...).
I'm married (to an ISFJ - Aaaaaaaaaaaaaaargh) and have one lovely daughter (she's 2 1/2).
It seems that you both are quite into Psychology, am I right? I don't know any other Belgian NOT into psychology who knows about MBTI...

ApeTheDog
25 Mar 2005, 10:53 AM
I didn't know about MBTI. I just took the test one day upon finding a link to it somewhere, and it was so accurate I investigated it more. But don't ask me about Freud or anything.

It's strange. If introverts don't like talking about themselves, and extroverts don't either... then who are the people who are always doing it? Maybe not wanting to talk about yourself too much is a Belgian thing. We're really modest after all.

So you must be really bored of the whole Bruxelles-Halle-Vilvoorde thing by now, right? I know I am, and I don't even live there.

yvre
25 Mar 2005, 02:02 PM
I didn't know about MBTI. I just took the test one day upon finding a link to it somewhere, and it was so accurate I investigated it more. But don't ask me about Freud or anything.
Just like me then...

It's strange. If introverts don't like talking about themselves, and extroverts don't either... then who are the people who are always doing it?
Maybe it's an N thing... Not being used to share what you think about with other people (because they wouldn't understand)???

So you must be really bored of the whole Bruxelles-Halle-Vilvoorde thing by now, right? I know I am, and I don't even live there.
It's all about politics... I believe politicians purposely try to put oil on the fire to justify their existence ("hopefully we are here to fight for your beliefs...")

ApeTheDog
25 Mar 2005, 02:48 PM
Oh yes. Not wanting to explain something because you know up front they won't understand is really familiar. I often don't even bother defending my point in an argument when I know I'm right because it'll be so annoying to explain everything. I'm terrible at explaining things, by the way - but I guess you being an extrovert would be good at it.

I think so too, about the politics. It's a cheap trick, and both the politicians benefit from it - it diverts attention away from (more) important problems, and the media benefits from it - since it gives newspapers something to talk about, and since people think something interesting is happening.