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Valtro434
18 Jan 2005, 12:05 AM
My brother and I were talking about 24 the other day. He said he thought Chloe was awsome and really identified with her. I said DUH, she is an obvious INTP.

What really struck me about her was how she was all business until her friend was rescued - then she had to go to the bathroom to lose it.

Of course, my brother is not like that, he never cries :whistle: but if he did, I am sure he would run to the ladies room like Chloe ;P

We were discussing Jack as well. Its always hard talking about fictional characters because the writers do not have to write them in the same mode consistently. We ruled out INTP for a number of reasons - he is extremely confrontational being the main - we talked about ENTJ ("do it! DO IT NOW!") but as an ENTP, I can tell you that I have no problem being bossy and barking orders. (You should have seen me bark orders to my 9 team mates on Roger Wilco when we played online games)

Of all types, ENTPs are described as the ones most hating to be controlled and having the least respect for the rules.

Now throw in some of his most extreme improvisations over the past few seasons - shooting the child molester in the interrogation room and taking his head in a bowling ball bag, holding up the convenience store to delay the terrorist, etc.

Jack is comfortable in ambiguous situations that have no good solution, he keeps his head and improvises his way out pretty much every time. And one more thing - he is extremely conpetitive, he always has to be right, he lawyers the rules, bends regulations and one ups everyone he can.


Can't remember the name of the new boss lady, but she seems out of her depth. She always falls back to SOP and backup - I would guess ENFJ - she deals with he crazy daughter with resolve and compassion - although she does stretch the rules in diverting the police from picking her up...

Anyone else?

int
18 Jan 2005, 01:04 AM
My wife and I just watched the entire 3rd season this weekend. It's become an annual thing. Jack Bauer is my hero.

I haven't been following this season, so if there's a spoiler anywhere, please lmk. :)

I thought Kim Bauer was an ENFJ or ESFJ. She's an extraverted Feeler for sure. I thought ESFJ but she doesn't mind taking a back seat most of the time.

Jack is too hard to pin down, for me at least. He's quick to resolve issues so I was thinking ENTJ, but Ni is sometimes dominant. Plus in season 3 he seems to introvert his feelings more. INTJ, maybe?

ApeTheDog
18 Jan 2005, 03:42 AM
I'm thinking Jack is an ESTJ. He's extroverted, he enjoys talking to his daughter or others people he likes. He's definately S, since he's always seeing/using what goes on around him. He's hyper-aware. He makes his decisions based on logic, and he's really good at playing mindgames, which makes him a T for me. And the J is because he's critical and decisive and also because his name starts with a J. Well, no. Just the decisive stuff.

Valtro434
18 Jan 2005, 05:42 AM
I'm thinking Jack is an ESTJ. He's extroverted, he enjoys talking to his daughter or others people he likes. He's definately S, since he's always seeing/using what goes on around him. He's hyper-aware. He makes his decisions based on logic, and he's really good at playing mindgames, which makes him a T for me. And the J is because he's critical and decisive and also because his name starts with a J. Well, no. Just the decisive stuff.

Holy crap!

Have you ever even met an ESTJ? They are the most clueless of all types when it comes to strategy and reading people. They are rigid, rule following ninnies who could not improvise their way into a package of cheese let alone do what Jack does.

You clearly do not understand what the N/S function is all about.

Just because someone is highly N, does not mean they are not in touch with the physical world. Ns and ENTPs in particular are good at reading people and very good at predicting what will happen next.

Jack was telling agent Ronny thae he and the SoD were going over tons of scenarios - highly strategic "what if" scenarios.

The primary function for an ENTP is Extraverted iNtuition - the whole firehose of possibilities and ideas is vented externally and the ENTP makes it manifest in the physical realm.

You could argue ENTJ, but Jacks primary function is clearly iNtuition and I guarantee you he is not an ENFP.

Valtro434
18 Jan 2005, 05:46 AM
My wife and I just watched the entire 3rd season this weekend. It's become an annual thing. Jack Bauer is my hero.

I haven't been following this season, so if there's a spoiler anywhere, please lmk. :)

I thought Kim Bauer was an ENFJ or ESFJ. She's an extraverted Feeler for sure. I thought ESFJ but she doesn't mind taking a back seat most of the time.

Jack is too hard to pin down, for me at least. He's quick to resolve issues so I was thinking ENTJ, but Ni is sometimes dominant. Plus in season 3 he seems to introvert his feelings more. INTJ, maybe?

The inferior function for ENTPs is Intraverted Feeling. We do actually have it, but just barely. It takes someone shooting our wife in the server room to make us cry. :ph34r:

Spartan26
18 Jan 2005, 09:19 AM
***Possible mild spolier***
Holy crap, I was just thinking that Chloe was an intp this weekend. She holds no respect for title only those who prove they're worthy. She looks down on people who are inferior to her. Everyone in the office thinks she's a weirdo. She's a computer systems geek. Plus, she has that cutting wit about her.
Sarah: Chloe, why do you have to be so impatient with everybody?
Chloe: Not everybody - Just YOU! Now leave, please.

The whole thing when Driscoll came over and she thought she was being fired totally reminded me of the thread that's running.
Driscoll: Alright, you're done here.
Chloe:*fights off panic* Whatever...I was going to quit anyway.

I was dying. I was so glad I had recorded that one to watch later. I had to stop my vcr and fell out laughing. Tears, dude. Tears!

I wonder if Edgar isn't an intp as well. It's about time 24 cast more believable characters. Those system guys with high clearence would be a bunch of geeks not Victoria Secret/Power Ranger hybrids.

The show has fallen into its habit of making its women meniacal, power starved wenches bent at stabbing everybody in the back. Or, complete morons. It's hard not to roll my eyes every time Marianne, I think her name is, shows up. And I guess Drisoll's schizo daughter will serve as the new kim. Wandering around aimlessly in her neighbor's yard. Didn't Kim do that out in the woods a couple of seasons ago?

I don't know if Jack isn't an INFJ. I don't know all the types that well.