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Colonel Panic
28 May 2007, 10:15 AM
You're driving down the highway, and for whatever reason veer out of your lane slightly. Your tire starts running over those annoying grooves in the side of the road, making a loud, irritating buzzing tone which warns you to get back in your lane. (What are those things called, anyway?)
While driving through canada I had this idea. The grooves in the road are causing a tone to be generated when they are driven over, the frequency of which depends on:
1. Your speed
2. The distance between said grooves.
Now over a distance, wouldn't it be cool if the distance between them changed, so as to make music?
The most common modern tuning system, the equal temperament system, specifies this equation for determining the frequency of each note, in hertz:

(2 ^ (x/12)) * y
^ = to the power of, / = divided by, * = multiplied by

Here, x is which of the twelve notes in the chromatic scale you want to find, and y is some predetermined tone to base the whole thing on, usually "A" at 440 Hz. Double the frequency to go up an octave, halve it to go down an octave.

Now I'm going to use the metric system here, since centimeters are more accurate than inches.
A typical highway speed would be 100 km/hr, which should be about 28 meters per second. (2777 cm/second) So to find the frequency of the note you want to generate, divide 2777 by the frequency you want in hertz to find how many centimeters apart to make the gaps. (this includes the gap itself...from the start of one groove to the start of the next groove. We'll call this value x from now on, not to be confused with the x in the equation above.)

This puts x at about 6.311cm for a concert 440 "A".

A = 440Hz, x = 6.311cm;
Bb = 466Hz, x = 5.957cm;
B = 493Hz, x = 5.633cm;
C = 523Hz, x = 5.31cm;
Db = 554Hz, x = 5.013cm;
D = 587Hz, x = 4.731cm;
Eb = 622Hz, x = 4.465cm;
E = 659Hz, x = 4.214cm;
F = 698Hz, x = 3.978cm;
F# = 740Hz, x = 3.753cm;
G = 784Hz, x = 3.542cm;
G# = 831Hz, x = 3.342cm;

Those values are all theoretical and starting to look a bit small towards the top end of the spectrum. You'd probably want to double all the x values, thereby reducing the whole thing by 1 octave, if you wanted to really do this.
8.428cm, 7.084cm, 6.311cm, 8.428cm, 7.084cm, 5.957cm, 6.311cm,
8.428cm, 7.084cm, 6.311cm, 7.084cm, 8.428cm
This is smoke on the water. :)

One wouldn't have to drive over it at exactly 100km/h to hear the song, it would be the equivalent of playing a tape or vinyl record faster/slower than it's supposed to be. You'd of course have to figure out the timing of the notes too (how far to hold each one for), but I just figured this stuff out while I was bored at work. Gimme a break.

Zuul
28 May 2007, 10:28 AM
Sounds awesome, It must play Smoke on the Water.

If you set the frequency to the speed limit it also might work as a way to get people drive that spacific speed. Maybe not. Whichever. Still awesome

IntenseNitroTruckPow
28 May 2007, 04:53 PM
Bott's dotts they're called :)

Actually, I read something in an old issue of Popular Mechanics from the 1950's (my dad had a whole cache of them) that proposed something similar. The idea was to cut grooves into the highway that would reproduce speech as the tires drove over them, kinda like a phonograph needle vibrating as it followed groves. The intention was to warn people of upcoming road hazards. It would be like you'd be driving at 70 MP H and suddenly hear in a booming--probably distorted voice--"SLOW DOWN CURVE APPROACHING--SLOW DOWN CURVE APPROACHING" resonating through the car. I don't know if it ever got to prototype stage, but there probably was a patent on it if it got as far as an article in Popular Mechanics.

I liked the idea because it would actually be one of the few safety innovations that would benefit poor drivers more than the rich ones. I think you'd be far more likely to hear that warning through the structure of an old Pinto on worn tires than in a new Lexus.

Colonel Panic
29 May 2007, 02:18 AM
Bott's Dotts eh, that's weird.

The way they are now, all big and rectangular and such, I could be wrong but I don't think they'd have the resolution necissary to reproduce speech. You'd have to do something alot more complex for that but I still think it could be possible, just a much more difficult problem...

bluebell
29 May 2007, 12:23 PM
Bott's dotts they're called :)

Actually, I read something in an old issue of Popular Mechanics from the 1950's (my dad had a whole cache of them) that proposed something similar. The idea was to cut grooves into the highway that would reproduce speech as the tires drove over them, kinda like a phonograph needle vibrating as it followed groves. The intention was to warn people of upcoming road hazards. It would be like you'd be driving at 70 MP H and suddenly hear in a booming--probably distorted voice--"SLOW DOWN CURVE APPROACHING--SLOW DOWN CURVE APPROACHING" resonating through the car. I don't know if it ever got to prototype stage, but there probably was a patent on it if it got as far as an article in Popular Mechanics.

I liked the idea because it would actually be one of the few safety innovations that would benefit poor drivers more than the rich ones. I think you'd be far more likely to hear that warning through the structure of an old Pinto on worn tires than in a new Lexus.

But would a sudden distorted booming voice saying 'SLOW DOWN' cause drivers to freak out that they were suddenly hearing disembodied voices and lose concentration? It's a cool idea, but I tried picturing what it would be like to hear that, and that would be fucking freaky. Specially if it was at night.

mr. treat
29 May 2007, 12:37 PM
i believe the grooves imprinted in the side of the asphalt are called rumble strip, while botts' dots are the convexly-shaped plastic circles.

RottenApple
29 May 2007, 01:09 PM
:)

I really love coming to this place sometimes.

Bodhi
29 May 2007, 01:57 PM
Awesome, but I'll stick with Supernaut by Black Sabbath and Thrust! by White Zombie.

airjaw
29 May 2007, 05:31 PM
Whoever invented those has saved countless lives and prevented countless accidents.

int
29 May 2007, 07:27 PM
I've always thought they were called rumble strips too.

Hmm...How far away are the strips, typically?

IntenseNitroTruckPow
29 May 2007, 07:55 PM
I've always thought they were called rumble strips too.




There are Bott's Dots (the little pimples glued to the surface of the road) and then there are rumble strips. I was only pointing out the name of the former because I wanted to use the phrase in conversation and I thought he might have been referring to them. Rumble strips are the grooves cut into the road that make the fun noises.