View Full Version : INTP Habits -- put yours down!
Seanan
17 Feb 2008, 07:50 PM
Most annoying... I awake each morning in the midst of a think fest.
_idiosyncracies
19 Feb 2008, 11:04 AM
Most annoying... I awake each morning in the midst of a think fest.
You're lucky. Even my sleep is one think fest.
ProTeZerg
19 Feb 2008, 08:06 PM
I made it through 6 whole pages before I just had to skip to the end this time... I'm getting a little better ;)
It's good to see I'm not the only one with all these same features though, especially with not wanting to go to sleep... and then not wanting to wake up in the morning! It's just I enjoy whatever I'm doing and don't want to go through that transition period between wake/sleep or sleep/wake... I do love my dreams though, and I'm working on being able to just "pop" awake like I could as a kid, and not set the alarm for 30 more minutes so I can jump back to the dream world for another adventure.
The "chameleon" aspect is one that I really identified with when I first took the test and came out INTP, mimicking others around me in subtle ways has always fit me into any group I want... and it's not like I'm doing that just to fit in, or hiding my real self... but more like I enjoy that aspect of personality and when I'm with a certain group that can come out more with me... I love being with a bunch of E people... because then it brings that out in me... I just always need my downtime alone to come back to a baser self after a while
The devil's advocate that keep coming up makes me laugh... I would love to have a live conversation with a group of similiar INTPs... by the end we wouldn't know who's viewpoint was really who's... about 5 or 10 minutes into an "argument" or discussion is about the point where I realize that I really don't care about the subject I'm discussing... but that something someone else had said just sounded wrong or "off" so I automatically took the viewpoint that seemed right to me and started out with feeler points about it to see how they responded to convince me to their side, and then their points don't end up making sense but they refuse to see any other side... and about then is when I'm like wtf am I even talking about this for? I don't care about it and don't really know about it... all I know is that what they are saying doesn't click, doesn't make rational sense... so I'm debating it, lol
The spelling and correcting people... sometimes it's there and pops out.. normally I don't care and let myself slack on it as well, it's so much more fun that way :)
Lethal Sage
20 Feb 2008, 06:36 AM
I use a search engine to visit websites instead of using the address bar most of the time. I say I do this to avoid clutter, but I think it's because I'm curious to see what'll turn up.
Ifflejink
22 Feb 2008, 04:10 AM
I tend to respond to compliments from people I don't know very well by muttering an awkward "thanks" or something under my breath. It's not that I'm offended or anything, I just don't quite know how to respond.
happyturkeyman
22 Feb 2008, 04:33 AM
I tend to respond to compliments from people I don't know very well by muttering an awkward "thanks" or something under my breath. It's not that I'm offended or anything, I just don't quite know how to respond.
This was a very well-written first post.
nullPointerException
22 Feb 2008, 05:17 PM
i have trouble falling asleep because i can't stop thinking about something or another, when i wake up i have trouble getting up, and when i was younger i used to correct everyone, although i dont really do that anymore because my parents wouldn't stop pestering me over it
theone
22 Feb 2008, 06:48 PM
I blame everything on my INTPness.
Hexapodia
22 Feb 2008, 07:07 PM
This was a very well-written first post.
Let me answer for Ifflejink:
<mumble><mumble> thanks.
Syd400
28 Feb 2008, 11:01 PM
If I'm daydreaming and someone greets me, I end up repeating whatever they just said back to them.
It works out most of the time, but not always...
I relate to all of these but my main habit is what most people have been saying. I can't stop thinking when Im trying to sleep, to the point that its annoying and frustrating. And I don't like getting up in the morning.
Mr.Miagi
1 Mar 2008, 10:32 AM
INTP 'Habbits'. This kind of spelling is unforgivable, especially when you're starting a thread.
Ponderous
1 Mar 2008, 09:51 PM
INTP 'Habbits'. This kind of spelling is unforgivable, especially when you're starting a thread.
If you're going to go with an alternative spelling, I'd suggest INTP Hobbits.
Opeth
2 Mar 2008, 08:46 PM
A strange habbit about music - As a person who listenes to progressive metal music(with extreme progressive lyrics) i almost NEVER read the lyrics. I'm not interested in them. I just love listening to the instrumentals/riffs/solos. I can listen to a 20 mins song and not get bored. I love hearing the music but not reading it. I think lyrics are overrated. I don't know if it's a habbit which fits to an INTP, i think it's the opposite.
InvertedInfinity
24 Mar 2008, 04:37 PM
I love learning the lyrics to songs, not so much because I care but when there is a deeper message being expressed I want to understand fully what it's about. like metallica's "one" I always loved the song but it now hold new meaning to me now that I know what the lyrics are really all about and understand the message. this is true of most music I like. this like has more to do with multiple intelligences than personality type (opinion)
Rozza
24 Mar 2008, 05:16 PM
Habits?
-> Underestimating how long tasks take
-> Leaving everything to the last possible mo
Hobbits?
I'll be an anonymous Sackville-Baggins, as long as I get to have the biggest hairiest feet. :happpy:
aether
24 Mar 2008, 05:21 PM
Most annoying... I awake each morning in the midst of a think fest.
I find that when that happens I get more stuff done during the day. It's a good (positive) day.
damagedxtravert.intp
26 Mar 2008, 06:44 PM
I like to express my deeply held emotions on my violin,which results in paganini-like tunes
DJAchtundvierzig
1 Aug 2010, 03:18 AM
Quotes from people...
- I like to delay going to bed. I hate the notion of having to go to sleep. So I surf until I'm dead tired and then sleep.
- I like to talk to myself; about the current situation, on reflections and occassionally looking into the mirror (while doing funny faces) while doing it.
- When talking to an extrovert who's just telling me about the details of the day, I'm reduced to only be able to respond with 'uh huh, okay, right'. I fail to re-account my day the same way.
- procrastination
- excessive thinking
- I don't hate small talk, but I'm not really good at it
- very lazy
- going with the flow, just going to sleep whenever I feel like it
- I love to just sit somewhere and listen to music and relate it to my life.. I guess this sort of goes with the thinking thing.
- Spending too much time in front of my PC instead of interacting with real people or doing some physical activity
- Saying something, then realising I feel the exact opposite
- Tend to say outloud the opposite of what I mean.
- Pitying people that don't deserve it
- Walking, when I could get a lift. Obviously so I can think
- I analyse my posts too much. You wouldn't believe the time it can take me sometimes to write something so simple
-Chameleon behaviour. I find that I can come across as downright multi-personality if people I interacted with in a certain way saw how different I was with another person. It's not so much to please people that I behave differently, but it makes interaction a lot easier.
-Question everything. Like "why don't you like vegetables?" or "why are you so talkative?" If people are unable to give valid reasons or say "I dunno, I'm just like that" I will feel they are stupid. For me, everything must have a rationale behind it.
-Perfectionist. This can be a rather annoying trait, as you do things so much slower since everything has to be just right. If I make many mistakes while writing out an essay I would feel like recopying it on a new sheet of paper.
- Obsessive about whatever I'm interested in at the moment.
- Lose interest in books before I ever finish reading them.
- I tend to avoid people at all times unless they serve a purpose...
- Ask to many questions to the point where I realize that I might look stupid, I already know the answer, or people look at me funny.
- Think of self as more intelligent but at the same time feel bad when other people don't see it.
- Dislike seeing other people laugh unless I know what its about (basic paranoia)
- Reading and researching on internet until I realize its unproductive.
- Editing.
- Engineering the "comeback."
- I cannot explain things very well if people don't understand them right away.
- I don't know when I'm in an argument. Because to me, it's still me trying to explain what I mean to the other person.
- Bringing me to: I remember the weirdest shit, all the time. I remember all kinds of things that are not useful at all, and that I don't intend to remember. I remember useless things for years and years in a row. (and yet, have a tremendously hard time studying)
-daydreaming a lot
-I have a very bad tendency to keep rambling on about certain things until the people around me just can't take it anymore. I've even made people cry before.
-I have a tendency to keep my emotions bottled up, which is bad, because at my core, I'm actually a deeply emotional person. I just have nobody to open up to.
-I vividly re-experience certain memories when listening to certain songs or tunes.
-I have a tendency to use my own imagination as an escape from the harshness of reality.
-I always carry my camera around with me wherever I go.
-I zone out during class
-sometimes what people say will stick with me for another 5 minutes, I just repeat it in my head
-It feels odd when I'm with just one other person, I feel like I should say something, but I don't know what to say (I can't do small talk)
-I often think up ways to hurt/humiliate my enemies
-I am a very poor self-advocator
-I forget things I was just thinking about (I also forget words sometimes)
-I am picky (it has to be just right)
-I replay songs in my head
...All things that apply to me.
charnack
1 Aug 2010, 07:54 PM
I find that most posted habits apply here also. A few made me laugh aloud, which earned me some strange looks. Thanks for that. :) I have an issue with seeing clutter, as in, if something is placed on the table and not moved or needed for a few days, it becomes invisible. Expand table to entire dwelling, and it gets to be an issue. It is clean, but far from neat. My ex-husband made a habit of taking photos of areas he deemed problematic, as for some reason the camera rendered the mess visible again. :blink:
I try to keep the talking to myself thing private, but with limited success. If I'm working through a problem, it doesn't matter who's there; I will be muttering to myself.
My on-board editor doesn't work properly in real time, so I try really hard to not have to be in the presence of people I really don't like. If I think they are stupid, or just plain wrong, I will have said so without realizing it. My son used to warn his friends that "Sometimes Mom's inside words get out." He probably still does, if he plans to bring them over to visit.
Lagspike
1 Aug 2010, 10:29 PM
I can never remember the weather forecast I watched one minute ago.
auriel
2 Aug 2010, 10:13 AM
I relate to most of these...except I don't feel that everything needs a rationale, don't really have any enemies (nor do I really want to humilliate anyone), and I don't carry a camera around everywhere. Other than that...yeah.
theory
2 Aug 2010, 07:30 PM
Quoted habits - How I deal with them...
-I forget things I was just thinking about (I also forget words sometimes) I very rapidly think of words, phrases, events, people, and go through the whole alphabet to remember. Sort of an intuitive mnemonic process?
- Reading and researching on internet until I realize its unproductive. I research myself, mostly skills I could use for tomorrow. I especially use it to learn to be self-reliant.
- Dislike seeing other people laugh unless I know what its about (basic paranoia)This doesn't happen often, but as it is happening, I block it out and think of something funny to laugh about - like Matt Foley, living in a van down by the river.
- Lose interest in books before I ever finish reading them. I've found the only way for me to stay interested in A book, is to be reading several. Currently, I have five books open.
- I tend to avoid people at all times unless they serve a purpose...Especially if they cannot carry on a conversation.
- Ask too many questions to the point where I realize that I might look stupid, I already know the answer, or people look at me funny.I play on my feeling stupid by asking MORE questions.
- Think of self as more intelligent but at the same time feel bad when other people don't see it. People seem to confuse emotional/social intelligence for real intelligence these days.
- Procrastination I fear becoming disorganized to the point I am no longer in control, after I finally start working on something for a short period of time, I'll run away from whatever I'm working on - eventually after being away, I find a better method/technique to complete the task more efficiently.
- Excessive thinking Especially harmful when about to go to bed. I sort of "imagine" that getting undressed, ready for bed is my way of removing all of the day's thoughts from my being.
echoes
6 Aug 2010, 05:04 AM
I check the toilet after I poo.
Bking
6 Aug 2010, 05:07 AM
I smoked for 8 years and quit about 4 months ago. Two weeks later I felt better than I had in about 8 years.
Sneakypeex
6 Aug 2010, 10:00 AM
I like to wave my hands to and fro when I'm excited.
I walk around in circles like an absent-minded professor when thinking about concepts. Amazingly, the movement increases my thinking ability by roughly 20%.
doctorjuice
9 Aug 2010, 03:26 AM
^^^ Yeah I walk around in circles ALL the time.
-Also with tiles, if it's plausible, I'll walk in patterns. Usually I skip one tile every time. So if I was walking on a chess board, let's say, I'd only be walking on one color the entire time. I ALWAYS have to walk in a pattern lol.
-I mess with my beard when thinking.
-Also I twirl my hair and straighten out my bangs when thinking.
-When I'm thinking I tend to stare in one spot but am completely unaware of what's going on in front of me.
-Sometimes when I'm listening to someone I'll go off on some random thought tangent and will completely tune them out unintentionally. While I'm doing this I do the same thing as above and stare in one spot while being completely unaware of my environment. The funny thing is it will seem like I'm actually listening to the person because I will be staring at them haha.
-I, uh, pick my nose a lot?
-I make many gestures and hand motions when I'm explaining something.
Anybody else do these things, or am I just crazy?
Stigmata
9 Aug 2010, 03:32 AM
I like to wave my hands to and fro when I'm excited.
I walk around in circles like an absent-minded professor when thinking about concepts. Amazingly, the movement increases my thinking ability by roughly 20%.
I do the same thing, always just thought i was weird. Whenever I'm thinking about something really hard or I'm talking on the phone I just walk around the house for no reason. I also have a tendency to randomly look out the window for no apparent reason. Whenever I see tiles I immediately notice a pattern in them, when I was younger I would always try to jump around and land on the patterns.
doctorjuice
9 Aug 2010, 03:43 AM
when I was younger I would always try to jump around and land on the patterns.I still do that :happpy:
Stigmata
9 Aug 2010, 03:48 AM
I still do that :happpy:
I still do also. Just wanted to sound less weird.
Gchrist
9 Aug 2010, 03:52 AM
I notice every spelling error that exists in anything I read. I usually infer horrible things about the people who commit them.
"Columbine" and "habit" are the two that I picked up in the 15 seconds it took to write this. Aidanpride and glassmoon - I know you made the errors in 2005, but you still are awful human beings.
/Nazi
Lagspike
9 Aug 2010, 05:59 PM
when I was younger I would always try to jump around and land on the patterns.
I thought I was the only one to do that. :ph34r:
Ferrus
9 Aug 2010, 09:47 PM
Incessant thinking.
Molamola
9 Aug 2010, 11:23 PM
A couple of things people pointed out to me (mainly because it annoyed them)
-I make observations, which others tend to mistake as criticism when I didn't mean it as that
-I despise talking on the telephone (possibly because my chameleon abilities are ineffective?)
-I mirror behavior and accents
-I am an excellent driver, except when other people are on the road or I start thinking
-People think I'm stubborn or arrogant when I refuse to do meaningless tasks, like homework or chores. Parents had their work cut out for them.
-I really do get excited about things but it never shows, I guess because I supposed it all was a matter of course?
There, so much for lurking
Lagspike
10 Aug 2010, 05:03 PM
-I despise talking on the telephone (possibly because my chameleon abilities are ineffective?)
Hmmm. I love talking on the telephone because of that exact reason. Since my chameleon isn't initiated I tend to really speak what I mean. In RL conversations it's a completely different story.
Molamola
10 Aug 2010, 06:45 PM
Hmmm. I love talking on the telephone because of that exact reason. Since my chameleon isn't initiated I tend to really speak what I mean. In RL conversations it's a completely different story.
Haha well when I tend to speak what I mean the phone line is filled with awkward silence. I guess I like gaging people with visual cues before I say too much.
And people here mentioned cameras a lot, reminding me of how people always ask me to take pictures "But you take really good ones!" except they're usually surprised when most of it is of scenery.
Wassup
10 Aug 2010, 06:53 PM
I'm new, be nice. Or not.
My grown son is also an INTP and we can meet at the park for lunch and not talk for half the time and we are both fine with it.
We also both crack up laughing at certain things that others don't understand. Someone always has to ask what we are laughing at and we both just ignore them.
I sleep like a log, but cant sleep past 6 a.m. no matter what time I go to bed. This may be an age thing (50).
I can watch a whole tv show and not know what I just watched because my mind is a million miles away, possibly reliving conversations I had that day.
I wouldn't excercise in a gym if you paid me. I will surf, fish, camp etc and love every minute of it.
I like to go to the movies on Sunday mornings because noones there. I can't imagine going on a Saturday night and stand in line, get crappy seats, etc., when I can see the same movie with no hassles (and cheaper) by going in the morning.
I like to cook and if I feel like a certain food, I just go to youtube and watch someone make it once. I dont go buy the correct ingredients, I use whats in the cupboard.
My wife is a compulsive cleaner and I just let her do her thing. I'm really not a slob, but I don't spend time worrying about the house being clean.
I've recently been thrown into the role of caretaker of my 85 y.o. parents (not full time, I'm just the only kid in town). I have no idea how to anticipate what my parents might need and I repeatedly tell them I will do anything they want, but they have to tell me what it is. My dad gets it, but I dont think my mom appreciates having to tell me the most obvious things to do.
I'm the world's best driver, but my car is usually dirty and overdue for mantainance. I found that you can drive a toyota over 200k miles with just 2 tune ups and about 6 oil changes. I feel my car runs better after washing, which I cant explain.
I have always felt I was going to do something amazing in my life, but not so sure anymore.
I would love to make a zillion dollars feeding off the masses stupidity. The guy who came up with the Pet Rock is a hero in my book.
One thing I really need to improve is my ability to see someone's viewpoint that I dont agree with. Sometimes I think the person is lying, because I cant wrap my head around seriously coming to the conclusion that the person did.
I grew up going to church 3 times a week and now I can't even be around those who do without getting pissed.
Wassup
10 Aug 2010, 06:54 PM
I forgot one thing I wanted to mention. I have to walk around when I'm on the phone. If I sit in a chair, my mind spaces out.
doctorjuice
11 Aug 2010, 01:48 AM
I forgot one thing I wanted to mention. I have to walk around when I'm on the phone. If I sit in a chair, my mind spaces out.Oh yes, that happens to me too.
And I feel like I'm meant to do something truly amazing as well. Is that an INTP thing? Do all INTPs feel this way?
Stigmata
11 Aug 2010, 01:52 AM
I forgot one thing I wanted to mention. I have to walk around when I'm on the phone. If I sit in a chair, my mind spaces out.
Exact same for me. If I sit on my computer chair or on the couch my mind will go in a million different directions, I'll either end up not listening and googling random stuff or watch tv.
Gchrist
11 Aug 2010, 02:12 AM
Thanks for the title change. Was tired of my mind conjuring up mutated midgets with long furry ears gnawing on vegetables every time I looked at the "Latest Posts" page.
Boil 'em, mash 'em, put 'em in a stew. Damn habbitses.
Molamola
11 Aug 2010, 02:58 AM
And I feel like I'm meant to do something truly amazing as well. Is that an INTP thing? Do all INTPs feel this way?
Yes, I think so. If none of us felt like we were meant to do great things, civilization would still be grunting around camp fires
doctorjuice
11 Aug 2010, 07:13 PM
Yes, I think so. If none of us felt like we were meant to do great things, civilization would still be grunting around camp firesHa. To clarify, I meant I feel like I''m meant to do something that will truly revolutionize/change the entire world. Not just having a family and saving the world one person at time a la a soup kitchen or volunteer work.
Molamola
11 Aug 2010, 07:26 PM
Ha. To clarify, I meant I feel like I''m meant to do something that will truly revolutionize/change the entire world. Not just having a family and saving the world one person at time a la a soup kitchen or volunteer work.
Lol I knew what you meant, I just wasn't clear. If no intps felt they should do anything great, they probably wouldn't have enough motivation to actually share or do anything with their ideas, merely satisfied with thinking them up. Hence, we have the refrigerator.
doctorjuice
11 Aug 2010, 07:39 PM
Lol I knew what you meant, I just wasn't clear. If no intps felt they should do anything great, they probably wouldn't have enough motivation to actually share or do anything with their ideas, merely satisfied with thinking them up. Hence, we have the refrigerator. I guess the refrigerator revolutionized the world in a less dramatic way.
But what I am asking is do INTPs all have a dream of revolutionizing the world like I do.
manza
11 Aug 2010, 08:51 PM
Thanks for the title change. Was tired of my mind conjuring up mutated midgets with long furry ears gnawing on vegetables every time I looked at the "Latest Posts" page.
Boil 'em, mash 'em, put 'em in a stew. Damn habbitses.
You're welcome.
buttershug
14 Aug 2010, 04:49 AM
I check the toilet after I poo.
You make that sound like some people don't.
Do you realize how many health issues can be spotted early by doing that.
I can be facetious sometimes.
And I twist what people say.
Once I saw a sign and didn't understand it.
Then I realized I was twisting the meaning without even meaning to and totally didn't register the intended meaning.
doctorjuice
14 Aug 2010, 07:41 PM
Also, I'm bipolar when it comes to going from being serious and analyzing everything before doing anything reckless or out of the ordinary to completely/goofy/careless/happy.
They both have their advantages :)
Stigmata
15 Aug 2010, 04:54 AM
I'm not really sure if this is an INTP trait or just me being weird, but whenever I watch a movie,play a game,or basically do something In which I I've never done before and I don't know how long it will take, I can never enjoy it. With movies I can never enjoy them the first time around because the entire time I can't wait for it to end, Its sort of like I want to go ahead and start trying to analyze the movie but I can't do that until its over, I usually watch them more then once any anytime after that I'm at ease cause I know whats coming. As far as driving goes, When I go somewhere the first time, I don't like the idea of not knowing how long it will take to get there so the drive there always unpleasant, The drive back is fine because by that time i've estimated the distance and the time it will take to get back.
Manicman
17 Aug 2010, 03:38 PM
When waiting somewhere i always start pacing.
I find i concentrate best if i stick my tongue out the corner of my mouth and bite it, while simultaneously scrunching my eyes.
Anytime i get into a conversation, i start connecting the topic to any number of other things i know. for example, talking about pets, makes me think of dogs, makes me think of wolves, makes me think of eskimo method of killing wolves, then eating blubber etc etc. Basically making everyone think I'm partially insane when i go off on "tangents" in the middle of a conversation.
I HATE forming routines. I realize it's efficient, but i hate when every day, week and month begins to just repeat.
I am brutally honest and routinely hurt peoples feeling be being such.
I pick things up almost instantly, hated high school because i could read the book in 2 weeks and pass the class. The rest of the time was such a waste.
Valiums
17 Aug 2010, 10:06 PM
As far as driving goes, When I go somewhere the first time, I don't like the idea of not knowing how long it will take to get there so the drive there always unpleasant, The drive back is fine because by that time i've estimated the distance and the time it will take to get back.
I love driving/being driven places. I don't have to do anything, because everyone's listening to music, etc. I can just sit and think. I go on hour long grocery shopping things with my mom just so that I can have 30 seconds of pure thinking time.
Agent of Chaos
17 Aug 2010, 11:59 PM
1)I hate stupidity no matter what the source.
2)Procrastination-I'll get something done right before it's needed.
3)If I'm cooking stay the hell out of my kitchen. It doesn't matter who you are or who owns the house, while I'm cooking the kitchen is MINE and I will walk out if bothered.
4)I think most authority figures are total idiots and I refuse to be an ass kisser (these go together and has cost me promotions and in at least one case my job).
5)I blow up if bothered while trying to concentrate.
6)I can't help myself from correcting the grammar of others.
7)I have the habit of finishing my wifes sentences (I've been able to do it since we met and I'm correct about 95% of the time) and she really hates that.
8)Sleep? What's that? I have bouts of insomnia and I cannot sleep at all during the day (even with windows blacked out).
9)My mind feels like it's going 200 mph while everyone else is stuck in low gear.
10)One thing that bothers me is trying to get simple ideas across to some people. They look at me like I'm from another planet when I try to explain things to them.
11)I am brutally honest and straight forward and don't realize (and in most cases don't care) I hurt someones feelings.
12)I found school a waste of time because I could understand the material almost as soon as the teacher presented it. I also found homework a waste of time.
13)The only teachers I respect are the ones that actually make me think, the rest of them are a waste of flesh.
There is more but I thought I would stop here.
Lethal Sage
4 Sep 2010, 07:35 PM
I check my pockets for my keys after I've already locked and closed the door. I guess it'd be good to know if I locked my keys inside, but don't you check so you don't lock them in?
tree tree
28 Sep 2010, 03:14 AM
over explain or under explain. I usually over explain when it comes to simple things, and under when it comes to complex things.
Megalomaniac
28 Sep 2010, 06:45 AM
caffeine more or less..
lucyintheskies
2 Oct 2010, 08:35 PM
2)Procrastination-I'll get something done right before it's needed.
I put the PRO in Procrastination
4)I think most authority figures are total idiots and I refuse to be an ass kisser (these go together and has cost me promotions and in at least one case my job).
Not allowed to talk about the job thing - termination disclosure agreement
10)One thing that bothers me is trying to get simple ideas across to some people. They look at me like I'm from another planet when I try to explain things to them.
If it was "simple" then everybody would understand it - right?
11)I am brutally honest and straight forward and don't realize (and in most cases don't care) I hurt someones feelings.
Used to think that logical explanation would solve hurt feelings. Then I realized that the more that I talked, the greater the misunderstanding. Totally freaked out my ST daughter when she was small.
Oukami_Ryuu
3 Oct 2010, 05:17 AM
1.) Procrastination
2.) Not wanting to go to bed
3.) Only thinking about the current project I'm working on (which sometimes gives me Insomnia)
4.) Not wanting to wake up
5.) Eating certain foods.
6.) Doing little things that make me learn about people instead of actually talking to them
7.) Over analyzing essays
8.) Not Doing Homework (I guess)
9.) Obsession with cleanliness when it comes to putting things in or near my mouth.
10.) Great dislike towards spiders, silver fish and mold.
11.) sometimes making my room messy and sometimes go OCD and clean up room.
12.)Making sure I use the right pen or pencil for the job.( I mean they don't make that big of a difference for instance my green mechanical pencil is used for my math and occasional drawing.)
Roger Mexico
3 Oct 2010, 05:32 AM
Oh, I recently noticed that I tend to start responding to what someone else is telling me as soon as I'm reasonably confident I understand what they're saying--even if they haven't finished speaking yet. This is probably kind of annoying.
Gaupa
3 Oct 2010, 07:12 PM
Oh bother, I wrote a long text but accidentaly hit a button which erased it - and I'm too lazy to repeat it.
So, my number one will have to be:
LAZY. (middle name procrastination)
atheistsunite
3 Oct 2010, 09:15 PM
Hiding, and denying almost all of my emotions.
Hylian
7 Oct 2010, 05:34 PM
I have a hard time stepping on cracks. It's not that I am superstitious or anything it's just that my mind doesn't like it for some reason. If I have to step on cracks I can but it kinda sticks in the back of my head bugging me.
When I am walking my mind sometimes assigns a certain amount of steps that I am allowed to take per tile. Like when I am walking to work my mind only lets me take 1 -2 steps per sidewalk tile. Once again if need to be for whatever reason I can avoid this but it nags me in the back of my head.
My posters/pictures on my walls have to be perfectly straight. I also have to have my bookshelf at least somewhat organized or it drives me insane. And yet at the same time my floor and bed can be a complete mess (at least until it starts to interfere with my day to day activities than I have to fix it) The same thing goes at my work. All my boxes and assets have to be perfectly organized and labeled and yet my desk is covered in papers,pens,etc.
When I get in a crowded/stressful environment or when I get bored I end up counting things in the room. Such as how many lights, chairs, exits, etc that there are in the room.
I have a hard time eating at buffets cause the thought of all the people touching the utensils and everything creeps me out. I also try to carry a pen with me so that when I purchase something with my debit card I can use my own pen to sign the receipt instead of their pens that everyone else uses. Once again if need to be I can go to a buffet or use their pens but it annoys me.
A lot of times when I eat a sandwich/burger I prefer to cut it into halves or quarters and than eat each section piece by piece. I don't always do it but when I am near the utensils to do so I prefer to eat it this way.
If I am at a store and I start getting bored I catch myself making the items on the shelf symmetrical
I tend to fidget a bit with my hands when I am bored/nervous.
I have a huge stack of books, games, etc that I have yet to play/read/watch and yet I refuse to get rid of them cause I may get around to them eventually. Heck even the books, games,etc that I have read,played,watched I have a hard time getting rid of cause I may want to reread/replay/etc later on down the road.
I can't stand going to bed before 10:30 p.m. and that is the earliest I can make myself go to bed. Usually I end up till 11:00 p.m. - 12:00 a.m. even though I know I have to get up for work. But on the same hand I can't stand sleeping past 8:30 a.m. even if I don't have any work or anything to do that day. And 8:30 is pretty much the latest I sleep in. I usually get up by 7:00 a.m..
I tend to over think everything. I run every possible scenario for a situation through my head and than I try to determine the most likely outcome. I can't count the times I have had mental conversation with someone and based their responses based off what I know about them and then decide from there if I should actually have the conversation in real life.
This one is probably more to do with just who I am but I can't stand most music. I think it stems from my childhood where my brothers would blast rock and other loud music all the time. Lately I have been trying to broaden my music tastes by listening to some classical music, Jazz, etc.
I talk to my computer/pet/whatever even if it can't talk back to me.
Trying to explain something to a coworker and having them stop me mid sentence and say they lost be back in the beginning. Several times they have stopped me in the middle of whatever I was talking about and told me that I have way to much information in my head.
I will take the numbers off of license plates and convert them to their place in the alphabet (1=A, 2 = B, etc) and than try to make words out of the letters available.
I ask insane and completely random questions to my friends and they just stand there looking at me completely weird before finally responding with an "I don't know but that is a very good point/question".
I often wish I could download the internet into my brain or at the very least be able to access the internet just by thinking about it.
Hylian
7 Oct 2010, 05:37 PM
Oh bother, I wrote a long text but accidentaly hit a button which erased it - and I'm too lazy to repeat it.
So, my number one will have to be:
LAZY. (middle name procrastination)
If you are using Firefox may I suggest you download the add-on Lazarus: Form Recovery
Professor Chaos
8 Oct 2010, 12:13 AM
I'm so INTP that I don't have any habits.
Tenderfoot
8 Oct 2010, 04:12 AM
I won't throw anything away if I can help it. I have a closet full of old, frayed shirts and jeans and t-shirts that don't fit and look disgusting. But they're probably gonna still be there the day I die. I also have a big collection of old broken or useless electronics, including every computer I've ever owned and the pieces of radios that haven't worked since the 1960s.
I won't plan anything if I can help it. But I own a planner and use it every day to write down all the stuff that I'm not planning to do any time soon.
I have really great ideas for things other people should do. As for myself, I don't intend to bother.
failure
11 Oct 2010, 05:04 PM
"Happy birthday"
"You too"
LastRailway
11 Oct 2010, 05:09 PM
"Happy birthday"
"You too"
Hehe, I've done this too.
pesquisa
11 Oct 2010, 05:31 PM
I've often counted out the time between subway stations on my daily commute. After having established the normal time/count between staions I have a rough measure of which station is the closest to walk out to if there's ever an emergency in the tunnel. When the train's moving at a normal pace I count at a normal pace and if it slows down I proportionally slow down my counting. I also carry a pocket flashlight and a little squirt P4 leatherman multitool. You never know when you'll need them:)
tree tree
11 Oct 2010, 06:01 PM
When the train's moving at a normal pace I count at a normal pace and if it slows down I proportionally slow down my counting.
thats funny.
sometimes I imagine that the metro is about to go down a hill like in a roller coaster, or that I'm going to wake up in another dimension by the next station. Or that I'm going to die on that ride. Any of the options leave you panting and awake! The feeling of stopping safely at the next station is crazy! It's a lot of fun. Don't do this if you already struggle with paranoia however.
Feller
11 Oct 2010, 06:37 PM
Just the other day my mom was driving me and we were talking for a while about how God doesn't exist. At one point we passed some truck activity on the highway, and after a while she commented on how backed up the other side was, apparently simply from rubbernecking. I then responded something like "why would it be all backed up on that side but not on this side where the obstacle was?" And she said "It was backed up... you didn't notice we were stuck in traffic for a half hour?" I had no clue.
pesquisa
11 Oct 2010, 06:51 PM
sometimes I imagine that the metro is about to go down a hill like in a roller coaster, or that I'm going to wake up in another dimension by the next station. Or that I'm going to die on that ride. Any of the options leave you panting and awake! The feeling of stopping safely at the next station is crazy! It's a lot of fun. Don't do this if you already struggle with paranoia however.
I ocassionaly struggle with the public transportation etiquette of maintaining an expressionless face. Sometimes a smile or even a laugh leaks out when I'm having an amusing thought. Recently I saw this lime green winged and long legged insect inching its way down the train car wall on the verge of making contact with some unsuscpecting guy's head. This struck me as hilarious and I had to look away beacuse I was fighting to contain my laughter. Laughing looks crazy enough on the train, much less panting.:horror:
tree tree
11 Oct 2010, 08:39 PM
Laughing looks crazy enough on the train
I laugh too.
I look craziest in my happiest states.
*shrugging shoulders*
shit.
1199
12 Oct 2010, 06:56 PM
Skipping meals when thinking .Actually i don't eat any breakfast the only meal i have daily is lunch. Saying weird things and talking to myself.
1199
12 Oct 2010, 06:59 PM
I laugh too.
I look craziest in my happiest states.
*shrugging shoulders*
shit.
Yeah i have the same problem. And usually people think that what makes me laugh isn't funnyt at all .
bokeh
12 Oct 2010, 07:05 PM
probably already in the thread somwhere.
Buy procrastination action until I feel comfortable that all the steps are planned out and just right for starting something.
skip
12 Oct 2010, 07:43 PM
I read this entire thread backwards.
UndercoverRecluse
12 Oct 2010, 08:49 PM
"Happy birthday"
"You too"
Cashiere @ MacD: "Enjoy your meal!"
Me: "You too!"
IheartWW
13 Oct 2010, 10:36 PM
procrastination!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
well veiled stubborn-ness
doing things myself, when I ought to hire someone
researching things that catch my fancy just because
followasign
14 Oct 2010, 01:40 AM
You make that sound like some people don't.
Do you realize how many health issues can be spotted early by doing that.<<<You should have used a question mark on the end of that sentence? LOL What does it mean if your poo is blue with yellow chunks in it?
{I can be facetious sometimes.
And I twist what people say.} <<< You're not an INTP, you're a WIFE! LOL
{Once I saw a sign and didn't understand it.
Then I realized I was twisting the meaning without even meaning to and totally didn't register the intended meaning.}ehh? I'm just having fun, don't take it personal.:smooch:
Follow A Sign..........
Feller
14 Oct 2010, 02:20 AM
Whenever I pay cash, I always put my wallet away and zip my pocket before I get my change. It's kind of annoying.
followasign
14 Oct 2010, 02:46 AM
I over-analyze everything and nothing gets done because of that. Example: I'm having an issue with my car shutting down without any warning, I have narrowed it down to 2 possible culprits. The only problem is that each part is a $500 part ($1000+each stealership price) and I can not bring myself to buy either one of them. I refuse to take the car to the "stealership" because I don't feel like being ass raped for diagnostics and stealership parts prices, especially when it is something that is basically plug and play. Right now I am in the over-analyzing stage of the process and will eventually buy one of them. I am about positive I know which one it is, however I need to feel that I am at least 95% positive that I am right, right now I'm at 90%. Can any one here relate to this? Any INTP mechanics here? I'd trust the opinion of an INTP mechanic especially if they know something about BMW's.
Follow A Sign..........
Hermione
14 Oct 2010, 02:49 AM
Timing belt. Yep, that's a total bitch.
Fjaertorslovaark
14 Oct 2010, 02:59 AM
Going to the toilet, having a seat, having a thought, doing the thing that I was there to do, and then continuing to sit there. Then, after a few minutes, emitting a laugh. Then, flushing the toilet, standing there for a minute, having another thought, and emitting another laugh. Then, opening the door. Then, walking toward the tap and washing my hands.
Then, while fling/flail/whipe on clothes-drying my hands to conserve trees, realizing that I forgot to whipe something else. Then, recalling that I only had to pee in the first place, so maybe there was nothing else to whipe. Hmmm. Then why did I sit down in that stall? That suggests that there should be something whipable. Hmmm.... but what if I did whipe? Oh, I must have done so, as I remember the sound of TP..or so I Think/Percieve! But what if that was the guy in the stall next to me? I wonder what he thought when I laughed for no apparent reason? [triggers another laugh for no apparent reason]. Nah, whiping is an engrained habbit, like when I stand in the shower for 40 minutes in lala land, and somehow my subconscous has managed to gradually wash me during that time.
Then, I look at my watch, and realize that I'm late for something important. No worries. I fuss with a bunch of gear in my pack and take the scenic rought to class so that I can finish listening to this deep progressive metal song. I arrive at class but the epic climax is about to arrive, so I make another loop around the building. Then, i stand outside the lecture for a minute and pretend to be doing something (fussing with arbitrary papers while I listen to the song). Then, I walk into the class and take 10 minutes to get my books out. I proceed to sit there daydreaming while staring into space, or else drawing interesting shapes on the desk, and then turning those shapes onto perverted 3D creatures.
The proff asks a question that no one answers, so based on what my lack of attention recalls I answer it with another conceptual question (this is in an engineering class, btw). This causes the INTP proff to get excited and to start explaining the uncertain quantum mechanics deep behind the problem, and he "wastes" the next half of the class doing this.
This was to be a one line post.
Feller
14 Oct 2010, 03:05 AM
Then, while fling/flail/whipe on clothes-drying my hands to conserve trees, realizing that I forgot to whipe something else. Then, recalling that I only had to pee in the first place, so maybe there was nothing else to whipe. Hmmm. Then why did I sit down in that stall? That suggests that there should be something whipable. Hmmm.... but what if I did whipe? Oh, I must have done so, as I remember the sound of TP..or so I Think/Percieve! But what if that was the guy in the stall next to me? I wonder what he thought when I laughed for no apparent reason? [triggers another laugh for no apparent reason]. Nah, It's an engrained habbit, like when I stand in the shower for 40 minutes in lala land, and somehow my subconscous has managed to gradually wash me during that time.
Usually I realize I've already used a certain kind of soap only after it's too late.
lucyintheskies
15 Oct 2010, 02:53 AM
Then, while fling/flail/whipe on clothes-drying my hands to conserve trees, realizing that I forgot to whipe something else. Then, recalling that I only had to pee in the first place, so maybe there was nothing else to whipe. Hmmm. Then why did I sit down in that stall? That suggests that there should be something whipable. Hmmm....
You win
1199
17 Oct 2010, 08:51 AM
- My room is a mess.
- I buy more books than I can read
- Procrastination & last-minute cramming
- Obsessive thoughts about using fireweapons
- Spending too much time in front of my PC instead of interacting with real people or doing some physical activity
- ...
Hehe thinking about using fire arms i thought i was crazy looks like am not .And spending more time on the computer and talking to myself more than interacting with people i do that too...
kali
17 Oct 2010, 03:12 PM
Cashiere @ MacD: "Enjoy your meal!"
Me: "You too!"
So many customers reply that at work I'm starting to doubt it's an INTP thing.
In fact I only tell them to enjoy their meal just so I can hear them say "you too." hehe
Works
17 Oct 2010, 06:18 PM
So many customers reply that at work I'm starting to doubt it's an INTP thing.
In fact I only tell them to enjoy their meal just so I can hear them say "you too." hehe
The rules of politeness in many cultures demand a certain level of perfunctory reciprocity. When we're presented with an asymmetrical speech act, the brain reels.
The best is when there is potential for symmetry but in reality there isn't.
Person one: You've lost so much weight.
Person two: Thanks, so have you.
It doesn't matter if person one is sitting on a motorized rascal with butter and Vegemite oozing out their pores. In this way, you can use politeness to be a real dick to people. Good hunting!
Bossness
27 Nov 2010, 07:28 PM
Never doing my bed/cleaning my room, unless I have an expected guest. Having a strange sense of humor in my private thoughts, then laugh/smile at my "inside" jokes, and then have someone ask me "whats funny/whats making you laugh?" and get a reply like "Just thot of something funny" which makes them ask "what?" only to get back "nevermind." Frequently almost late to everything. Every number I find I always add up the digits to see if it is divisible by 9 and/or 3. Take a math book, notebook and pencil to starbucks to solve equations 4 fun. Coming up with nice story plots but never making anything of it. Walking around with my hoodie on trying to impersonate the main character in Assassin's creed. Sit at the corner of starbucks, observe the ppl who walk in, and then create stories in my head about who they are, what they do, what they like and then create a future 4 them.
starjots
27 Nov 2010, 10:27 PM
If I'm in a good mood and dealing with the sort of sales people that tend to hover around (realtors, furniture store or car salesman), I make puns, silly jokes and wild exaggerations almost non-stop in between the few pointed questions I want to ask them. If they are not going to leave me alone, I guess I indulge myself in the sort of small talk and word play I enjoy. Most people are good natured about it, but a few look like I just jammed a broom stick up their ass.
JamesGold
3 Dec 2010, 02:00 AM
I count the number of letters in words all the time. I'm happier when the word turns out to have an even number of letters.
InLolsWeTrust
24 Mar 2011, 07:37 AM
I set my alarm 30 minutes early, because that's roughly the amount of time it takes me to convince myself that the outside world won't be so bad, cold, etc.
I actively and intensely think about other things whilst being subjected to small talk.
I insist on making dramatic and ridiculous assumptions in regards to perceived symbolism in movies or books or song lyrics (making me a huge Dylan fan)
Often, when I actually engage in trifling conversation, people point out that I repeat things from other conversations with them.
In that same vein, I kind of appropriate information and methods of discourse to get my sentences tailored down to just what I want those people to hear. I know everyone does this, but it's a conscious process for me.
noxeternae
24 Mar 2011, 04:22 PM
Having a great idea which instantly passes through my mind and I can't remember it good enough to write it down or vocalize it.
Blue Cake
24 Mar 2011, 09:41 PM
Procrastinating on forums.
gr8ness97
24 Mar 2011, 11:38 PM
procrastination period....and spending too much time on forums and the computer/phone in general
MeMyself&I
25 Mar 2011, 05:39 AM
When I get to know people I can usually see patterns in their behaviour which makes it possible for me to predict what they're going to say/do next. This really creeps people out
Blue Cake
25 Mar 2011, 12:38 PM
When I get to know people I can usually see patterns in their behaviour which makes it possible for me to predict what they're going to say/do next. This really creeps people out
Everyone does this.
MeMyself&I
26 Mar 2011, 01:38 AM
If everyone did/could do this they wouldn't find the ability strange, saying things like "how did you know that?!"
Blue Cake
26 Mar 2011, 10:19 AM
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Personal_fable
Yeah, shocker. Who would imagine people being surprised when you surprise them.
MeMyself&I
27 Mar 2011, 03:29 AM
Personal Fables are based upon internal belief while what I'm talking about is based upon external reactions. I didn't realize that people don't track details like I do until they started to show surprised at my noticed of them.
Why would people be surprised in the first place if "everyone does this"?
Blue Cake
27 Mar 2011, 08:31 AM
And where do you think those internal beliefs comes from?
Knowing something isn't the same as expecting it.
Professor Chaos
28 Mar 2011, 01:40 AM
It's not necessarily a habit, but an internal behavior that constantly repeats itself in certain conditions: I lose my prized ability to detach myself and enter Ti mode around crowds and external stimuli and it's extremely bothersome for me.
I'd think this is a INTP trait. I can't conceive that most INTP's can let their guard down around obnoxious and taxing surroundings. Am I alone in this? One of the INTP descriptions, I believe it was on typelogic, said that INTP's are often oblivious to their surroundings and may not notice something like their hat flying away. I've seen social anxiety as a major theme in this site too that could be related to this perhaps? So i'm just essentially checking up on my INTP status with this tidbit relative to the other folks on this site.
Maybe i'm just pondering off to myself at the moment but this can be puzzling since it'd be taking away one of our alleged primary functions and one that happens to be a major contributor to our way of navigating. If you like analogies, it's like being captain kirk on the USS Enterprise and having your shield down and deferring to your less qualified crew to battle the Romulan after being taken by the enemy and all you can do is watch. You know you want James T. running the show.
egregious cerebrum
2 Apr 2011, 03:37 AM
trolling
Tommo3
3 Apr 2011, 11:31 PM
I can relate to everything I read in this thread, well once I got the basic tone of the thread and things started to repeat themselves I skipped to the end but I especially liked the refusal to sleep. I stay up as late as possible and trawl through wikipedia going from completely unrelated things to more equally related things that take my fancy.
pesquisa
19 Apr 2011, 03:47 PM
I close the curtains. I live in a garden style condo and our refrigerator is situated such that when you open it, you're standing in front of a window overlooking a well traveled path. With the curtains open I feel like I’m in a store window display. My ESFJ wife likes to keep the curtains open to "let the light in." I think it's really just as much to see who's coming and going.
ModestMoron
19 Apr 2011, 10:59 PM
Some of my habits. Let me know if any of these sound familiar.
Habits: apathy (cause i don't give a fuck), arguing, backbiting (don't ask), begging (for sex), being a "Peeping Tom", being a bad listener, being aggressive, being a belcher *burrrrrp*, being a know-it-all (that's a joke lol), being a productionist, being a troublemaker, being an exhibitionist, being annoying, being anxious, being argumentative, being arrogant, being boring (like this fucking list lol), being combative, being conceited, being confrontational, being critical, being defensive, being disagreeable, being disorganized, being excessive, being fake, being foolish, being gloomy, being greedy, being impolite, being impulsive, being inconsiderate, being indifferent, being inhumane, being insincere, being irresponsible, being irritating, being jealous, being late, being lazy, being lewd, being loud, being loud in restaurants, being loud on the toilet, being miserable, being a MORON, being nasty, being obstinate, being permiscuous (i wish...), being pessimistic, being preachy, being profane, being pushy, being racist, being redundant, being rigid, being rude, being self-centered, being selfish, being shy, being smug, being snobby, being strict, being stubborn, being superstitious, being tacky, being tactless, being tardy, being unbending, being unclean, being uncouth, being unfaithful, being uninteresting, being unkind, being uptight, being violent, belching, binge eating, biting, blaming, blowing my nose in a cloth napkin extremely loud, borrowing and not returning items (why? 'cause fuck 'em that's why), bragging, brawling (by brawling i mean fighting dirty with a pair of pop's hand-me-down brass knuckles and then a week later getting my arm broken for it), breaking rules, breaking the law, bullying, burning things (steaks, chicken, oysters mmm), burping, carelessness, chasing mothers and their daughters with my manish afro-cuban cock, cheating (on tests, women, etc. , chewing gum in class, chewing nails, chewing (suckling on) snuss, chewing while on the phone, chewing with mouth open, choking someone, committing adultery (a future marital prediction), complaining, condescending, contradicting, copying, coughing, covering up, cracking knuckles, criticizing, cursing, cussing, cutting, cutting, corners, cutting in line, cutting people off when driving, depression, disrespecting elders, disrespecting senior citizens, drinking alcohol, drinking coffee, drinking malted liqour in excess, drinking soft drinks, eating chocolate, eating junk foods, eating loudly, eating meat, eating other's food, eating people (just kidding), eating waaay too much sugar, eating too fast, eating too much, eavesdropping, envying, exaggerating, excess use of over the counter medicines (see addictions), excessive cleaning, excessive throat clearing, faking illness, farmer blowing (?), farting, feeling stressed, fibbingidgeting, fighting, finishing people's sentences, flaking out, flatulance *poot*, flipping people off when driving, forgetting (intentionally of course), forwarding emails, freeloading, gambling with other people's money, getting angry, getting in people's personal space, getting into debt, gleeking on babies, gossiping about the disabled, grinding teeth, hair pulling during, harassing, hating, helping myself to everything in someone's fridge, hitting, hoarding rubik's cubes, honking at old people crossing the street, hovering for a parking spot, ignorance, indulging, insomnia, interrupting, keeping borrowed items, kissing and telling, kissing in public, laughing loudly, leaving a mess behind, leaving shopping carts in the middle of a parking lot then watching to see whom it inconveniences lol, leaving the toilet seat up, leaving a giant floater in the toilet with the seat up, licking my fingers after sex, lip biting, littering, loitering, lying (rarely), making fun of people because i secretly envy them, making messes, making out in public, making rude noises, masturbation, masochism during masturbation, mimicking, misrepresenting myself, mocking, monopolizing the conversation, mooching, moodiness, nail biting, nail clipping in public, name dropping, necking in public, needing to be in the spotlight (hence this post), nose picking, not cleaning up, not completing projects, not replacing things i take, not setting the DVR, not turning off the TV when someone visits because i'm a disrespectful asshole lol, not using proper lifting techniques at work as part of a sinister plan to mooch off the system through workers comp, one-upmanship, perpetuating curmudgeonism FTW, overspending, panicking, passing gas on babie's faces, peeing in swimming pools, pencil chewing, picking scabs then saving them (hoarding? jk), picking my ears, picking my nose when no one is looking and wiping it on the nearest surface, picking my teeth in public, picking zits, playing loud music, playing online games (rubik's cube ones), pointing, pointing out mistakes, pointing at retards, the elderly, and the misfortunate because they're funny to point at, poking, polluting, popping blisters, popping gum, premature ejaculation, procrastinating, procrastination, punching babies, putting feet up on seat (fuck yo couch son!), putting on make-up while driving (??), quarreling, reading over someone's shoulder, reading romance novels because i'm a hopeless romantic (by romance novels i mean porn), rebellion in the form of public drinking, recklessness, running my supermarket cart into someone's ankles, sadism, screaming, seeking attention, sending spam email, shallowness, shoplifting, shopping too much, showing home slides, slamming doors, slicing a golf ball, smoking, smoking weed (indicas, sativas, hybrids, etc.), snoring randomly during conversations, soliciting, spamming, spanking babies, speeding, spending money, spite, spitting, spitting while talking, staring at camel toes, stealing, stripping, sucking (because i'm a moron, duh!), sugar cravings, swallowing food whole, swearing, tailgating, taking drugs, taking risks, talking during a movie, talking in a different language in front of someone who doesn't understand, talking on a cell phone at an inappropriate time, talking on the phone while driving, talking politics, talking to myself, talking when being spoken to, tapping fingers, tapping pencil, tapping toes, telling tateless jokes, thrill seeking, tipping less than 15%, using additives, using air quotes, using artificial coloring, using artificial sweetners, using cell phones in public places (movies, restaurants, etc.), using drugs, using highbeams, using the express checkout with more than 15 items, using marijuana in public, using the women's restroom so i can ask a random women to borrow a tampon, vandalizing public bathrooms, vanity, visiting random patients at the hospital i used to work at unannounced, vomiting sarcastically when food doesn't taste good, wasting, wasting time watching smut TV, watching too much TV, wearing too much cologne, whining, whispering in front of other people about how they suck, working too hard, working too little, working too much, worrying, xenophobia, yelling...
ADDICTIONS: pills, boos, boob grabbing, etc. ah fuck it, this is all basically one giant ego stroking list of bullshit.
You get the point, i'm like that guy from curb your enthusiasm, only unbelievably stupider.
ModestMoron
Miko
29 Apr 2011, 10:01 PM
I close the curtains. I live in a garden style condo and our refrigerator is situated such that when you open it, you're standing in front of a window overlooking a well traveled path. With the curtains open I feel like I’m in a store window display. My ESFJ wife likes to keep the curtains open to "let the light in." I think it's really just as much to see who's coming and going.
I think you need some of those sheer white curtains or privacy frosted glass stickers. Light + privacy.
Miko
29 Apr 2011, 10:02 PM
It is really nice to read about other people like myself. People have called me strange on multiple occasions, among other things. Like others have said, many of these are traits of INTPs, not habits. I also have the following traits that others have mentioned.
- Delaying going to sleep for no reason
- Unable to make conversation
- Emulate others
- Need to chug water in the morning
- Procrastinator
- Like when someone else says something that I do/would so that I feel like less of a freak
- Messy even though I have a desperate need deep down for a clean space and serenity
- Gather massive amounts of information/research that I wil never have the time to do anything with and so it is only a constant drain of time
- Unable to compromise
- Misinterpreting others
- Not exercising enough (I do some)
- Not socializing
- Being perceived as arrogant because I don't change my manerisms to match the person I am speaking to unless somehow I'm accidentally emulating OR because I have impatience for stupidity
- I want to smash things when I get angry (it's difficult to make me angry unless it builds up over a long time)
- I talk to myself inside of my head, but sometimes make outward faces to accompany my emotion
- Perfectionist to my great disadvantage
- Emotionally non-expressive
- Extremely quiet unless I know someone well and really like them and then I'm talkative
- Almost never call or contact anyone on my own. Usually people notify me that they will be contacting me later so that I will actually spend time communicating with them
- Constantly late/losing track of time
- Have an inherant mistrust of others
- Easily frustrated by annoyances that are constantly inconveniencing me
- Editing what I write over and over, it takes me about an hour to write a decent email
- Constantly play out different situations in my head, so that hopefully I would not be caught off guard
- I had to learn over years to "dumb things down" and think that now I have a good grasp on easy analogies
- I remember numbers especially well, or other random things
- I need my "space" or "my zone," a place where I can get away from all of the noise
- Sometimes just don't feel like eating
- Often feel unappreciated
- Don't know how to keep a conversation going by asking others about THEIR life and knowledge
- Laugh out loud at what may seem like inappropriate times to others
- I like pi (and pie)
- I am terrible with dates, times, getting places, etc.
- I get impatient when reading
- Have vivid memories, as if I were reliving them (but I'm not one of those super memory people)
- I am very private and do not tell people about my personal life (which has led to many assumptions and made up stories)
- Poor self-advocator, unless it's something I am adament about
- Replay songs in my head
- Try to solve a problem 6 different ways, none of which work well enough for me so I have a lot of wasted time and just crap laying around
- Keep too many papers laying around EVERYWHERE (I just bought a scanner, so I will be making digital copies and shredding the papers)
- Keep other things around that I think will be useful that create clutter, but I have tried to come to terms with just throwing everything out and being a minimalist to make my overall life much better over the past year
- When I get stressed, I have 2 modes: Superwoman and "she's got a lot of quit in 'er"
- Don't take as good care of my belongings as I should, I'm not terrible but I don't exactly give regularly scheduled maintenance
- Constantly misread or mishear things because I'm in too much of a hurry to just get everything done, so I can go and do more stuff... if I get around to it
- Physical contact can be awkward for me
- A mix of a superiority and an inferiority complex all rolled together
- Often type up replies that I do not send
- Buy books that I never read
- Neglect cleaning and other necessary mundane activities, sometimes outright refusing to clean someone else's mess
- Poor at keeping interpersonal relationships (except one long term romantic relationship at a time, but that's not easy)
- Have great ideas that I think would benefit others, but then abandon them quickly
- Enjoy spending time alone, going to a restaurant, for a walk, etc.
- Become angry when others are inconsistent, but I am no pillar myself
- Constantly start projects or pick up hobbies that I never follow through with
- Cannot leave skin perfections alone
- I eat strange things together (beef jerky, cookies, pringles, and wine anyone?)
- Washing my hands or using hand sanitizer every time after touching something that could be germy, more than most people do
- Prefer to use the floor or a dining room table to being confined to a normal desk
- I stonewall people I don't feel like caring about at the time
- I don't stick up for myself a lot of the time, but if I'm adament about something I'm like a fury
- I don't like stepping on sidewalk cracks or puddles
- I listen to the same song over and over
- I'm often concerned with saving money
- Saying I'm not a morning person is an understatement
- I feel comfortable in lengths of silence with other INTPs I am close to
- I make weird faces when I'm really concentrating
- I always make sure I have my keys before and after exiting a door just to make sure (who has time and money to call a locksmith?)
- I count things when I'm stressed, or if I have nothing to count then I count to 8 over and over
- When I'm nervous or stressed I scratch my scalp, bite my lip, or anything else I can do to pick away at myself
- I often daydream to get away from reality and imagine that I am different places, like the noise outside is actually the ocean because I'm in my beach house
- I can be stubborn when I shouldn't and not care when I should
*I was going to run this through spell check, but I didn't... so if you see a mistake, too bad.
pesquisa
29 Apr 2011, 10:22 PM
beef jerky, cookies, pringles, and wine anyone?
If the wine is a Riesling, or a red if the cookie is chocolate or chocolate chip.
Skinart
30 Apr 2011, 04:04 PM
I don't finish what I
pesquisa
30 Apr 2011, 04:05 PM
LO
Phreon
1 May 2011, 03:36 PM
I'll blurt out something that seems like a witty crack to me only to be met with blank stares, suddenly realizing those folks didn't go on the mental journey I did in my head to get to the "joke".
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diacetyl
12 May 2011, 02:49 AM
I close the curtains. I live in a garden style condo and our refrigerator is situated such that when you open it, you're standing in front of a window overlooking a well traveled path. With the curtains open I feel like I’m in a store window display. My ESFJ wife likes to keep the curtains open to "let the light in." I think it's really just as much to see who's coming and going.
I feel discomfortable when having the curtains open, i cant relax but always making an effort trying to look normal in case the neighbors are watching (ultra suspicious!).
fripping
12 May 2011, 03:38 AM
treating curtains like a wall. walls don't open.
Jynweythek
12 May 2011, 03:44 AM
Not really an INTP habit, but the above reminded me of something. Sometimes I'll catch myself thinking that I should get off the Internet because somebody is in the shower. Someone will jump in the shower and I'll be like, "Oh shit, I better stop using up all the bandwidth or they'll have cold water."
Derp.
scorpiomover
6 Jul 2011, 10:40 PM
INTPs tend to be rather mistrusting of people and are rather sceptical. However, a lot of their trust is based on what the Ne function tells them about somebody. This can lead to a naivity and sometimes to prejudices based on intuitive perceptions of appearence and style. People can be a problem for INTPs: on the one hand they are fascinated by some types of people, especially more extraverted individuals, but a fear of irrational behaviour in others usually leads to caution. Friendship with INTPs develops at a pace which depends considerably on the temperament of the other person. INTPs dislike making the first move and tend to mirror the emotional content of the other person. A jolly person will quickly bring the INTP out of his shell, as much as that is possible, while a serious person will find a serious INTP looking back at him. In this sense, INTPs preference for intuitive perception (rather than action) with respect to people results in them resembling a chameleon. The INTP can fit into many different modes of behaviour, even contradictory ones, in order to get into the mindset of the other person. The goal is to gain enough intuitive data to analyse and assess the person. In doing this, the INTP remains somewhat reserved, never wholly identifying himself with his surroundings. As chameleons, INTPs are therefore approachable and open, unless the Ne tells the INTP that the other person is a type he doesn't like, in which case the reserved attitude may become too obvious. The chameleon behaviour can be particularly strong when discussing something. The INTP may even argue something that he doesn't really believe himself. Sometimes it is for the intellectual stimulation that comes with the challenge of arguing from a variety of standpoints. Otherwise, it may be to avoid early conflict before the situation has been fully assessed. Chameleons hide their true selves. INTPs do not do this cynically, or indeed all the time, but it is a result of the strong desire to remain detached and observe.When I read this, I thought: "That's totally me. But I've never heard of anyone else do it, or why. Is this really true? Or has someone hired a detective to follow me, and is just posting up the detective's notes?
This is so uncanny, I have to wonder.
Phreon
7 Jul 2011, 12:26 AM
Habit: Typing and masturbating at the same time
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I have the same habits as most of you- sleeping late, zoning out on small talk/personal discussions, procrastination, overthinking, (leaving seemingly invisible piles of paper until they fall over and finally catch my attention), etc.
Very true. Only instead of piles of paper it is piles of clothes.
Three of my really bad habits: 1) Correcting people. It's not even like I'm trying to be snotty, 95% of the time it's because I'm casually listening and I repeat it back correctly to make sure I understood the sentence. It's like I get stuck in neutral on the mispronounced/misused word and until I get it right I am incapable of going forward.
This is so me. I have to consciously think "Don't correct them. Don't correct them" when talking to people. Then I have to ask them to repeat themselves because I was so hung up on them saying "it's broke" instead of "it's broken" that I missed the point of what they were saying.
2) Trying to come up with rational/feasible solutions for women's problems when they are talking to me; and expecting the same in return. I only "just vent" when I am PMS'ing. Afterwards, I feel like an idiot/histrionic nutcase. When I am not hormonally challenged I am seeking concrete, finite answers.
I do this too. My friends know I'm an awesome problem solver but not a great sympathizer.
3) Not being able to "dumb things down" without apparently making someone feel like an idiot. I get this a lot when I try to show or explain to relatives anything related to computers. I alternate between "geek speak" and "see Dick run". (As far as I am concerned you have 3 options: you know it, you don't know it, or you know enough to figure out the rest in context.)
I'm actually pretty good at "dumbing things down" but most days it just doesn't seem worth the effort to even explain things to other people. That sounds bad...what I mean is it's a lot of effort on my part to edit my thoughts into something the other person will understand.
Not getting when or how to be "touchy feely" unless the other person initiates it or I'm told. If I do initiate it sometimes comes across as awkward. Examples:
I asked my friend who was hospitalized if I could give her a hug even though everyone else had already hugged her and she didn't have an issue with it.
I got in an argument with an ESFJ and she was giving me the silent treatment. So I started talking and went to give her a hug. She asked me what I was doing. I told her I was trying to make them feel better because she likes talking and touchy feely stuff. (Under pressure I'm always brutally honest.) It set her off again. :(
My ENTJ friend does musicals and after one of his shows a group of our friends went to talk to him. They all hugged him when they told him that he did a good job. I didn't. He was exasperated and remarked that I had hugged everyone else I knew who was in the musical. After an moment of wondering what to do I asked "Do you want a hug?" but didn't actually hug him until he said yes. :P
Does anyone else have an issue with this?
ModestMoron
9 Jul 2011, 08:42 PM
An ISTP habit of mine is being too lazy to get up and pee, so I use a gatorade bottle. SMART!
War Wizard
17 Jul 2011, 01:25 AM
Can definitely relate to first 4. And last one is too damn accurate for me. Not giving it up though. I feel like its the only thing that keeps me sane lol
synthesiafirefox
12 Aug 2011, 03:47 PM
I'll blurt out something that seems like a witty crack to me only to be met with blank stares, suddenly realizing those folks didn't go on the mental journey I did in my head to get to the "joke".
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i usually experience this when i was young, as i grew older, i learned to laugh inside my head, (when they insist on asking what's funny, i try to put it in simple terms, which in turn makes the explanation longer, and turns to an awkward situation where you're viewed as either a dullard/daydreamer)
i usually have a better/more creative idea of teaching complex lessons than teachers, although i have trouble acting it out since, i'm the only one who can understand myself when i do that
i have trouble talking with slightly mentally weak people, i just don't understand how they understand each other's wrong grammar xD
when listening to a lesson/lecture, i try to find out the logic behind it before concepts(usually i don't stop until i get it, i remember trying to comprehend the General Theory of Relativity in 2 hours,when i was in 3rd year high school, which of course ended badly for me)
my mind graphs mathematical models on my brain in 3D
and i usually am skeptical of people, i try to find out their motives/behavior through networks(ie. facebook) and try to read their body language
synthesiafirefox
12 Aug 2011, 03:54 PM
Not getting when or how to be "touchy feely" unless the other person initiates it or I'm told. If I do initiate it sometimes comes across as awkward. Examples:
I asked my friend who was hospitalized if I could give her a hug even though everyone else had already hugged her and she didn't have an issue with it.
I got in an argument with an ESFJ and she was giving me the silent treatment. So I started talking and went to give her a hug. She asked me what I was doing. I told her I was trying to make them feel better because she likes talking and touchy feely stuff. (Under pressure I'm always brutally honest.) It set her off again. :(
My ENTJ friend does musicals and after one of his shows a group of our friends went to talk to him. They all hugged him when they told him that he did a good job. I didn't. He was exasperated and remarked that I had hugged everyone else I knew who was in the musical. After an moment of wondering what to do I asked "Do you want a hug?" but didn't actually hug him until he said yes. :P
Does anyone else have an issue with this?
yeah i do, especially when i was on my senior high school year
everyone was hugging each other cause it was graduation, but i hesitate unless they were the one actually wanting a hug( i was thinking some people might not want to hug me), this is the problem with me, i'm usually overly cautious which leads me to regret, especially when i didn't have the courage to hug my crush
- it's my goal to be social xD
1)staying up late online, or reading- I have to understand something before I go to bed, and I hate the thought of obligatory sleep cutting into my learning time.
2)walking on the treadmill while either reading, or contemplating things- for hours
3)reading excerpts from several books in a day
4)when a character on tv speaks in an accent- I find myself mimicing them outloud. I've always loved the sound of different accents
5)learning bits of different language
6)when asked a question in an email- I'll answer back, pulling facts from many sources, and consulting various viewpoints- so in the end, it seems I've written a research paper.
7)remarking on the nuances in people's speech
Salesman
3 Dec 2011, 04:28 AM
At the end of every night it always feels like there's 100 people in my head and I need to get 99 of the out so I can go to sleep.
This leads to hours of late night internet searching!
Salesman
3 Dec 2011, 04:30 AM
1)staying up late online, or reading- I have to understand something before I go to bed, and I hate the thought of obligatory sleep cutting into my learning time.
^^^^ x2!
Tactical Panda
3 Dec 2011, 11:59 AM
I kind of like the hesitation some INTPs give when they are answering a slightly ambiguous question. It tells me they haven't ignored the question and simply given a thoughtless reflex answer. Its slightly refreshing seeing someone think on their feet.
ecovoce
4 Dec 2011, 03:30 AM
Sometimes the world, speech, etc. seem like a set of arguments to me. I hear someone speak and reflexively break down what they've said and begin scouting for faulty assumptions and/or invalid inferences. Frequently I have to prevent myself from saying something like, "the logic doesn't work" or "have you logically thought through what you've said?"
To divert others in the room or maybe even myself from logic-mode (which becomes a wee bit tiring), I sometimes blurt out some absurd thought or observation to see how people respond. Some less understanding (an S or J perhaps) people think I'm "crazy," or "weird." Of course, having a keen sense for absurdity also requires a strong sense for sense (heh) and order. Am I right?
Mikamickmac
11 Dec 2011, 01:42 AM
When driving, I can usually remember the start and the end of a trip, but often draw a complete blank on the middle. I know I have driven well and avoided an accident, but often have absolutely no recollection of passing through intersections or making turns. Its as though my brain is alert enough to make the correct decisions required for successful driving but too busy to press its own "record" button. Or maybe my brain just has a poor records management system.
When writing a paper, I cannot adopt or adhere to a planned systematic approach. For days, random ideas will float around in my head but its only at the 11th hour that I seem to have the ability to commit those thoughts to writing. Initially, writing commences as just a dump of the ideas extracted. I try to flesh them out but that just generates new ideas. This makes me very agitated - I'll write a few paragraphs then do something for a distraction - browse the internet for something completely off topic, pace around the room, go outside and pace up and down the driveway or the staff car park with a ciggy. It's amazing how much more I smoke when in this mode. At the end of the day, I come up with a very logical, well-structured masterpiece, but the way I achieve it scares the shit out of those waiting to read it - they have serious doubts that I will deliver the goods, but I haven't failed them yet.
Fonduman
11 Dec 2011, 04:12 AM
When driving, I can usually remember the start and the end of a trip, but often draw a complete blank on the middle. I know I have driven well and avoided an accident, but often have absolutely no recollection of passing through intersections or making turns. Its as though my brain is alert enough to make the correct decisions required for successful driving but too busy to press its own "record" button. Or maybe my brain just has a poor records management system.
When writing a paper, I cannot adopt or adhere to a planned systematic approach. For days, random ideas will float around in my head but its only at the 11th hour that I seem to have the ability to commit those thoughts to writing. Initially, writing commences as just a dump of the ideas extracted. I try to flesh them out but that just generates new ideas. This makes me very agitated - I'll write a few paragraphs then do something for a distraction - browse the internet for something completely off topic, pace around the room, go outside and pace up and down the driveway or the staff car park with a ciggy. It's amazing how much more I smoke when in this mode. At the end of the day, I come up with a very logical, well-structured masterpiece, but the way I achieve it scares the shit out of those waiting to read it - they have serious doubts that I will deliver the goods, but I haven't failed them yet.
sounds a lot like me lol. at any one time, when i'm driving, I'm incapable of remembering what i've been doing the last 30 seconds. its like i become oblivious to outer surroundings, but obviously something is stopping me from careening off the road.
similar for projects. seems i spend most of the time just daydreaming about things, then right before the deadline i just dump everything on paper. trying to structure things on paper is useless too, dont think it works for INTPs, but i seem to have it all sorted out in my head for structure already, somewhat intuitively since I dont consciously structure, but something feels wrong with it if it isnt structured, which guides me.
sometimes, when talking to a friend who is particularly smart, i may forget i dont need to explain everything 3 times to them, and end up repeating myself even when they understand it, which just makes me look stupid instead :stupid:
on the other hand, sometimes i give people too much credit in handling abstract hypotheticals to demonstrate an idea. recently I was arguing with a creationist, who claimed that science cant be taken as fact, because it cannot be proved 100%, thus creationism cant be disproved. i went on to explain that it would depend on his definition of proof, that the general definition of fact as used by scientists means that it is largely agreed upon as fairly certain to be true, and that if he were to define fact by that which could be proved 100%, then i couid claim the Earth is a banana, because he could not disprove it, and there is an extremely small, but existent, probability that it is. he just kinda kept saying "but it isnt" in a flat tone, as though I was being stupid and trying to literally claim the earth as a banana as a reasonable theory, completely missing the point.
i get weird looks for laughing to myself, and i have a thing for drinking tea out of a straw at starbucks.
i tend to have an irresistable urge to openly mock attempts of television to emotionally manipulate me.
it took me six months before i could remember the colour of my friends car, which i saw on a regular basis.
when people want to talk about concrete facts rather than abstract ideas, i end up just replying "oh" in a not-convincing attempt to sound interested. if i'm with someone I know who is capable of it, i can often turn such a conversation into a more abstract one. but when you know the other person's life revolves around reality tv, celebrity gossip, and getting drunk, there doesnt seem much point. what is it with people and being interested in pure, often unremarkable, fact? it is what it is, theres nothing more to really be said about it. I dont really know how to reply lol.
Mikamickmac
11 Dec 2011, 11:30 AM
Probably my worst habit, when assessing developments, is thinking "yeah, that's fine, but what if...". There is ALWAYS a "but what if"
ahankaran
11 Dec 2011, 05:04 PM
-being overly critical of people
-getting bored easily
-diverse interests
-does not like being tied down to any one thing
-analyzing things to death
-unconcious perception - noticing every single nuance but failing to make a decision or narrow down the decision criteria
-insensitive
Wilson
12 Dec 2011, 02:30 PM
I have a few OCD thought tendencies. The main one being typing words on an imaginary keypad in my head, deleting back to the second letter and typing the rest, then the third and so on. When i was younger I would always keep track of which way I turned, because it felt like there was a rope that would coil around me if I didn't balance out left and right turns, to the extent that I'd turn right to go left and vice versa. Shaken that one off thankfully. There's a bunch more weird shit I do and think, maybe I'll come back another time.
Oh and I always, always act like the people around me. I hate it and now (at 20) I still don't really have a clear idea of who I am or what I want to do with life, and I also have friends that bug the shit out of me. So that's nice.
Enkidu
13 Dec 2011, 08:24 PM
I write on my arms with pen when I don't want to forget something. I am able to do this because I always carry at least three pens on me at all times, and I love chewing on them. I've had surprisingly little incidents of ink mouth, but every pair of jeans I own has ink stains.
Fonduman
15 Dec 2011, 05:45 PM
probably a common one, but it really annoys me when people approach problems with no underlying structure lol. they'll give random ideas out of nowhere, and I'm raging like "why u no make fundamental principles first???":mad:
thats probably the source of most heated arguments. when people discuss things, they often have different definitions of words fixed in their minds, and end up arguing about different things. you need to approach things from the bottom-up, starting with the most fundamental logical structures, then continuing extrapolation until a disagreement is reached. fully formed, but isolated, statements out of nowhere leads to chaos :grin:
Skinart
15 Dec 2011, 06:30 PM
treating curtains like a wall. walls don't open.When walking around, I'm sometimes baffled when I glance at a house and see what they are watching on TV. It isn't what they are watching that baffles me (well sometimes that baffles me as well) it's that I can see it. It doesn't make sense to me that anyone would let me see into their private life like that.
But bless the milfs who do.
Mikamickmac
19 Dec 2011, 02:23 AM
When someone say's "I'm an expert" they may as well be throwing down the gauntlet
M1n1f1g
20 Dec 2011, 03:38 PM
Sometimes when I want to ask a question about what someone has said, I will repeat the first few phonemes of the question word I want to say, like: /wa.wa.wa'waɪz.ржʔ/ (sorry, I couldn't think how to write it without using the IPA). This sort of thing seems to happen for a certain type of question, and when asked to repeat I will always do the same thing again.
Salesman
22 Dec 2011, 06:23 PM
I have a bad handwriting habbit that started from day 1. It's completely inconsistant. No one would ever be able to analize my writing. Sometimes it's perfect. My letters are sharp and appear as though they were written in a grid. Other times i'm not mentally invested at but it's still decent and isn't much messier. No matter what, I'm always mentally awarding feedback on my own writing whether good or bad
At work, I recieve merchandise from customers daily. I read about 3-8 notes a day.
Here's a guilty confession: I sometimes get a little jealous when someones handwriting is meticulous. When I write up there paperwork I tend to imitate there writing in nature.
M1n1f1g
30 Dec 2011, 12:50 AM
I have a bad handwriting habbit that started from day 1. It's completely inconsistant.
That's funny, I'm sort of the opposite. My handwriting is consistently messy. But it is very consistent. I've even documented it (and I'll post it on request).
This next part is rather off-topic and boring, but I felt that I must say it. Oh, what the heck, you'll read it anyway!
My handwriting is joined-up, and each of my letters has 7 forms:
Capital - upper-case
Start - the first letter in a word, or after a capital
a-middle - a letter that is joined at both ends, and after a letter which joins on the line
o-middle - a letter that is joined at both ends, and after a letter which joins above the line
a-end - the same as a-middle, but with no letter after it to join to
o-end - the same as o-middle, but with no letter after it to join to
Single - a letter which has no other letters to join to
Each form of a letter is designated as being a-form or o-form (except capitals, which do not join). This decision decides whether the following letter in a word will be a-middle/a-end or o-middle/o-end. As it happens, all of my letters keep the same a/o over all of the 6 lower-case forms.
The only o-form letters are o, r, v and w, whilst all of the others are a-form. The -end and single forms allow letters which go below the line to not loop round fully, and causes z to not have a loop at all. The stroke on a start or single letter can begin anywhere, whereas a- and o-middle/end forms are inherently limited. Single forms are generally only used in algebra, except "a", of course, as well as 2-letter words starting with a capital.
Mauvesoul
30 Dec 2011, 03:21 AM
- I am lazy
- I have a disorganized room. But every once in awhile I do eventually clean it, but rarely. Usually I just mash all my papers together and figure out how to organize it all and put them into my binder/ folder and then end up forgetting about them all until I make my room messy again and then reorganize and then remember all this stuff I wrote down and get lost into reading it all. So, I've learned to stop cleaning my room :D.
- I think. But I'm actually a little more focused on what I'm thinking about. I have my own website and am working on organizing my life principles, my religion: Wicca/ Pagan, my theories on the best way to think and therefore behave, forms of manipulation and discussing evil, parent-and-child interaction and what children should really learn (since having a hellish childish as perhaps normal INTP's I decided to construct some principles that most children and maturing humans learn as a way to cope with life and themselves), my criticisms of Christianity and fundamental religions, men-and/vs.-women, and much more.
- Understanding and experiencing and practicing the principle of self-love. To understand to love not only your strengths, but ALSO your WEAKNESSES. I've actually noticed many positive changes and more self-confidence and being able to stand up for myself.
- learning to better utilize the calender and the Task app so as to keep myself more organized on my phone. Coincidentally of course, I'm practicing on writing down every task I come up with as soon as I come up with them so as not to forget them and get lost in thought. Seriously, you can't imagine how well I've benefited from this practice. Those of you constantly lost in thought might want to give this one a try and see if it doesn't keep you focused and on task. I've scheduled when to check my email/ bank account, when to clean the dishes, when to take out the trash, when to use the internet and surf, etc.
- working on my website to keep me organized on my thoughts and my core principles. In this way, I organize my thought patterns and better control my behavior and emotions as well as better control on how to react to certain situations and remind me the given outlook/ perspective I wish to keep for myself.
- any major principle thought or concept that comes up, I immediately type it into my phone under Memo. Once again, you've no idea how incredibly organized it has kept my thought patterns. Making me far more efficient in staying on track with my original thoughts. My mind doesn't wander as much and I am far better able to remember what I was thinking. Making it easier for my unconscious brain to retain that principle and utilize it to get me to think a certain way that I want to think in given situations and therefore think and react the way I want to think and react. I'd noticed that I would come up with a profound principle and then wander around only to come back to that same principle but for some reason I kept forgetting it and sort of had to continue to work hard to come up with the exact same concept. You've no idea how frustrating that always became for me. Within the first month of trying out writing notes in my phone I've found myself more at ease, less anxious, and clearer focus at the tasks at hand. Believe it or not, I've also found myself able to sleep better, I believe because my brain is far better organized now and isn't so worked up over the same concepts.
- learning to trust my instincts and feelings. This is to say, to better recognize whenever I feel upset or unsettled or weirded out. I immediately work to figure out what it is that is unsettling me in the moment, even when I'm with another person(s). Usually I feel unsettled because some kind of injustice has just occurred and I learn to be more critical of it, rather than trying to figure out the situation much later. It's actually helped me tremendously in figuring out what's bothering me at the time and also understand the situation as it is unfolding. This of course is in direct association with my self-love concept and learning to believe in myself. I end up believing in my instincts and feelings, being able to better comprehend the situation at hand. Therefore, making me more able to deal with the situation and people.
sevenseas96
18 Jan 2012, 09:25 PM
If I ever had any doubts that I'm an INTP this thread as done away with them.
-Procrastination
-Ignoring my classes in pursuit of other education - e.g., I look up Newton's laws to get a better explanation and soon I'm reading about universal gravitation and the event horizon of black holes. For hours. Soon I'm on... a history of dwarves, at 1am, having completely ignored schoolwork.
-Procrastinating on sleeping/trying to wake up early when I don't need to. It's such a waste of time. I want to try polyphasic sleep but I doubt my schedule will ever be flexible enough.
-Being overly analytical, especially where word usage and obviously bad grammar are involved, and especially around my family.
-Not socializing. At all.
-I dislike small talk and I suck at it. When somebody wants to talk about Harry Potter, we should educate each other on symbolism and etymology and literary techniques, not "OMG THEY R THE CUTEST COUPLE!!!111!!" I don't understand why anybody would ever prefer the latter.
-Relating to above, I don't understand common greetings. "Whatsup?" Me: "Hi. I mean how are you." or if it's somebody I know "Ceilings. Clouds. Are we talking stratosphere, what level? Planes, birds, Chuck Norris. Spaghetti monsters." But how do you respond to "whatsup?" Apparently (I learned it from a post here... somewhere) the correct response is another "Whatsup?" Which makes no sense. No questions are answered.... I could rant, but I'll stop. Same thing with "How are you?". Just say "Hello/Hi/Good morning" if you aren't interested! Gah.
-Mirroring people's feelings and, to a certain extent, behavior. I love imitating accents and speech patterns, and I sometimes accidentally find myself slipping into the behavior/speech/emotional patterns of one person even when they aren't around. It's like I'm summoning their personality to get myself through something. Weird.
-I carry books around a lot, enabling me to avoid work, reality, and people.
M1n1f1g
18 Jan 2012, 10:38 PM
-Ignoring my classes in pursuit of other education - e.g., I look up Newton's laws to get a better explanation and soon I'm reading about universal gravitation and the event horizon of black holes. For hours. Soon I'm on... a history of dwarves, at 1am, having completely ignored schoolwork.
That's the sort of thing that makes me sometimes mix up homework and interesting stuff. After a Saturday of apparent productivity, my mum will usually ask "how much of your homework have you done today". At that point, I think about what I've done, and it's probably only half an hour.
I do a lot of the other stuff you said. Some people ask me "What's up?", or similar, just to see my inability to answer them. Generally, I let them have their entertainment (it's quite funny for me too), rather than making up some literal answer.
sevenseas96
19 Jan 2012, 02:05 AM
I guess the refrigerator revolutionized the world in a less dramatic way.
But what I am asking is do INTPs all have a dream of revolutionizing the world like I do.
That's me, too.
I picture doing it in a research lab - some breakthrough discovery that is going to change humanity forever. Neuro, stem cell, genetics, etc - there are so many problems in there just waiting to be solved, very applicable to problems we have, etc.
I think most INTPs tend towards skeptic/cynic side?
"I do a lot of the other stuff you said. Some people ask me "What's up?", or similar, just to see my inability to answer them. Generally, I let them have their entertainment (it's quite funny for me too), rather than making up some literal answer."
My teacher/coach discovered my inability to answer these questions and won't shut up :) so I can relate
doctorjuice
19 Jan 2012, 05:44 PM
That's me, too.
I picture doing it in a research lab - some breakthrough discovery that is going to change humanity forever. Neuro, stem cell, genetics, etc - there are so many problems in there just waiting to be solved, very applicable to problems we have, etc.
I think most INTPs tend towards skeptic/cynic side?
Oh lord, same here! Have always dreamed of making some incredible breakthrough in physics and, yes, revolutionizing the world.
Fonduman
19 Jan 2012, 09:41 PM
I sometimes have ideas where I think I may have stumbled upon some sort of fundamental truth that may lead to a revolutionary idea. but, i'm suspending any real attempt to take these seriously, because i'm not at the point where I have enough knowledge to produce useful ideas, because i'm not even sure of the nature of the problems, and our progress upto this point. for example, relativity didn't come along until maxwells equations suggested the speed of light is constant to all observers.
today I realised that, although most people cite attraction as completely subjective and unquantifiable in an objective sense, that people tend to exclusively agree on extremes of beauty. so, it seems like we can definitely say "that person is less ugly than that person" when there is a more noticeable difference between them, but the subjectiveness seems to only come in when differences are less noticeable. so, i'm thinking that we essentially have intrinsic "error bars" on our determinations, that prevent definite relative answers between close contenders. but I have a vague idea that somehow cross referencing these error bars could significantly reduce their size, and lead to a more deterministic view of attraction, which could lead to insight on human psychology.
I mostly find that idea entertaining because it'd be pretty hilarious if a physicist ended up making a significant contribution to sociology or something like that without even any formal study or education in it ;) gotta admit, I love patronising to the social sciences. :devil:
M1n1f1g
21 Jan 2012, 10:48 PM
Another thing I do sometimes is that when I want to carry on walking along a country road, but on the other side, I will follow a path across the road which is described roughly by a reciprocal graph. I do this to maximise both safety (allowing me to get to the other side quickly if needed) and distance covered along the road. However, I fear that if I ever was in danger from a car, I might follow the path regardless and end up being squashed.
Spartan26
22 Jan 2012, 12:47 AM
Have not read much of this massive thread. I will say I tend to over analyze things. And, if given the option, I'd like to sit and stare out into space not particularly focused on any one thing while my mind grazes in open meadow. On what, I don't know. I never bother asking once it comes back.
nad.zz
24 Jan 2012, 03:44 AM
I'm inconsistant... could you call that a habit?
doctorjuice
24 Jan 2012, 07:11 AM
I'm inconsistant... could you call that a habit?
Consistency is only a virtue if you're not a screw-up. Therefore, if you're a screw-up but you're inconsistent, then being inconsistent is a good quality, habit, or whatever you want to call it.
Wilson
30 Jan 2012, 03:52 PM
I went through a phase of trying to be Jim Halpert from The Office US. The expressions, witty one liners (that he had said), everything.
Light Leak
30 Jan 2012, 05:59 PM
I tend not to write things down because I think I have a great memory. The problem is my memory is only good if I actually care. If I don't really care then I'm probably not going to remember... or I'll remember when it's too late.
M1n1f1g
30 Jan 2012, 10:11 PM
I tend not to write things down because I think I have a great memory. The problem is my memory is only good if I actually care. If I don't really care then I'm probably not going to remember... or I'll remember when it's too late.
I'm often scared about forgetting things I'm interested in. Recently I couldn't get to sleep because of a theory I had made up regarding a 2D universe. I don't trust my memory through sleep.
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