INTP Habits -- put yours down!

[JF_Aidan_Pryde]

I want to start a thread on the habbbits of INTPs. It's been well written by serveral papers but I'm sure there are more personal and unmentioned ones! You can list your own or re-affirm others.

I'll start:

- I like to delay going to bed. I hate the notion of having to go to sleep. So I surf until I'm dead tired and then sleep.

- I like to talk to myself; about the current situation, on reflections and occassionally looking into the mirror (while doing funny faces) while doing it.

- When talking to an extrovert who's just telling me about the details of the day, I'm reduced to only be able to respond with 'uh huh, okay, right'. I fail to re-account my day the same way.

Will add more once I think'um up. :)

[Elro]

All those apply to me as well, though the "details of the day" one varies depending on my mood. Every now and then I'll actually contribute something that I think is interesting. Sometimes it proves worthwhile.

[JF_Aidan_Pryde]

Another thing I remembered while taking a walk just then:

- I emulate other people constantly. For example, after hearing a Kennedy speech, I am immediately rendered to speak like him both in accent and style. It wears off just as quickly. (On this matter, I'm too often living in 'emulation' mode rather than being myself and this often causes me to think "who am I suppose to be?")

[Hamro]

i hate the idea of having a set time each day that you go to sleep, i would like to delay it and have an irregular sleep pattern, but my parents wont be so happy i guess. I also respond like that because im generally uninterested in the small talk thats going on around me. i loathe small talk.

I never shower or change clothes on weekends unless im going somewhere(which is quite rare)

[Clara]

I like to ease into the day, not saying much, while I get the practical details going. There might be conversation, but it's basic: "Good morning" or "I'm getting washed now." Nothing complex, too early, like talking about plans for later in the day.

And thinking of early morning, I've found that drinking a large glass of water, first thing, helps that "booting up" process immensely. ( :D I have to ignore my early-morning resistance to "do it because it's good for you" - in a fingers-in-ears dialogue of "na-na-na I can't hear you" sort of way ;) )

[Swift]

- I like to delay going to bed. I hate the notion of having to go to sleep. So I surf until I'm dead tired and then sleep. Me too. But I only stay up late when I have something interesting to read, otherwise I don't bother. I need my sleep. I also hate getting up in the morning.


- When talking to an extrovert who's just telling me about the details of the day, I'm reduced to only be able to respond with 'uh huh, okay, right'. I fail to re-account my day the same way. Check that one too. The only things I could possibly talk about would be something I read or saw on TV etc... Don't ask me what I had for breakfast yesterday, I won't remember.


- I emulate other people constantly. For example, after hearing a Kennedy speech, I am immediately rendered to speak like him both in accent and style. It wears off just as quickly. (On this matter, I'm too often living in 'emulation' mode rather than being myself and this often causes me to think "who am I suppose to be?"). Can't really relate to this, but it looks like the INTP's "chameleon" mode I heard so much about.

[bmw318tiChic]

I do pretty much everything that has been listed here.

- procrastination
- excessive thinking
- I don't hate small talk, but I'm not really good at it
- very lazy
- going with the flow, just going to sleep whenever I feel like it
- I love to just sit somewhere and listen to music and relate it to my life.. I guess this sort of goes with the thinking thing.

[Edmond Zedo]

-Being a genius
-Some negative things also

[Boneca]

- I like to talk to myself; about the current situation, on reflections and occassionally looking into the mirror (while doing funny faces) while doing it.It's nice that someone else would say this. It makes me feel slightly less of a freak.

I need to talk to myself to get my thoughts sorted out. I've always done that, and now it's like a bad habit. Even though I only do it when I'm alone (which is most of the time), it is still the quirk of mine that I'm the most ashamed of.

[Anathematized1]

I have the same habits as most of you- sleeping late, zoning out on small talk/personal discussions, procrastination, overthinking, (leaving seemingly invisible piles of paper until they fall over and finally catch my attention), etc.

Three of my really bad habits: 1) Correcting people. It's not even like I'm trying to be snotty, 95% of the time it's because I'm casually listening and I repeat it back correctly to make sure I understood the sentence. It's like I get stuck in neutral on the mispronounced/misused word and until I get it right I am incapable of going forward.

2) Trying to come up with rational/feasible solutions for women's problems when they are talking to me; and expecting the same in return. I only "just vent" when I am PMS'ing. Afterwards, I feel like an idiot/histrionic nutcase. When I am not hormonally challenged I am seeking concrete, finite answers.

3) Not being able to "dumb things down" without apparently making someone feel like an idiot. I get this a lot when I try to show or explain to relatives anything related to computers. I alternate between "geek speak" and "see Dick run". (As far as I am concerned you have 3 options: you know it, you don't know it, or you know enough to figure out the rest in context.)

[Geoff]

Ah yes, the mispronounced and used word, I feel it might be the centre of INTPness. I know I do that.

For example, if someone says to me that someone had 'bad pronOunciation', I just can not avoid going "Yes, pronunciation". It's like I too am stuck in neutral until it is done!

-Geoff

[Elro]

Ah yes, the mispronounced and used word, I feel it might be the centre of INTPness. I know I do that.

For example, if someone says to me that someone had 'bad pronOunciation', I just can not avoid going "Yes, pronunciation". It's like I too am stuck in neutral until it is done!

-Geoff

Yep. I rarely directly point it out (that method generally doesn't work as well), but I do make a point in stating a misspelled word correctly, or if it's spoken incorrectly, pronouncing it correctly. Maybe this ticks people off, but I can't stand it if I keep my mouth shut about it. It's for their good as much as it is for my sanity.

[Edmond Zedo]

Yep. I rarely directly point it out (that method generally doesn't work as well), but I do make a point in stating a misspelled word correctly, or if it's spoken incorrectly, pronouncing it correctly. Maybe this ticks people off, but I can't stand it if I keep my mouth shut about it. It's for their good as much as it is for my sanity.
Don't you mean: (That method generally doesn't work as well)?

[Swift]

- My room is a mess.
- I buy more books than I can read
- Procrastination & last-minute cramming
- Obsessive thoughts about using fireweapons
- Spending too much time in front of my PC instead of interacting with real people or doing some physical activity
- ...

[glassmoon]

Another thing I remembered while taking a walk just then:

- I emulate other people constantly. For example, after hearing a Kennedy speech, I am immediately rendered to speak like him both in accent and style. It wears off just as quickly. (On this matter, I'm too often living in 'emulation' mode rather than being myself and this often causes me to think "who am I suppose to be?")
I do this too. I sometimes emulate people I see on TV or just someone I randomly talk to, but most of the time I'm more focused on few people who impressed me and my encounter or experience with them in a way becomes a part of the variety of styles and getures I use.
The profile mentions this too:

INTPs tend to be rather mistrusting of people and are rather sceptical. However, a lot of their trust is based on what the Ne function tells them about somebody. This can lead to a naivity and sometimes to prejudices based on intuitive perceptions of appearence and style. People can be a problem for INTPs: on the one hand they are fascinated by some types of people, especially more extraverted individuals, but a fear of irrational behaviour in others usually leads to caution. Friendship with INTPs develops at a pace which depends considerably on the temperament of the other person. INTPs dislike making the first move and tend to mirror the emotional content of the other person. A jolly person will quickly bring the INTP out of his shell, as much as that is possible, while a serious person will find a serious INTP looking back at him. In this sense, INTPs preference for intuitive perception (rather than action) with respect to people results in them resembling a chameleon. The INTP can fit into many different modes of behaviour, even contradictory ones, in order to get into the mindset of the other person. The goal is to gain enough intuitive data to analyse and assess the person. In doing this, the INTP remains somewhat reserved, never wholly identifying himself with his surroundings. As chameleons, INTPs are therefore approachable and open, unless the Ne tells the INTP that the other person is a type he doesn't like, in which case the reserved attitude may become too obvious. The chameleon behaviour can be particularly strong when discussing something. The INTP may even argue something that he doesn't really believe himself. Sometimes it is for the intellectual stimulation that comes with the challenge of arguing from a variety of standpoints. Otherwise, it may be to avoid early conflict before the situation has been fully assessed. Chameleons hide their true selves. INTPs do not do this cynically, or indeed all the time, but it is a result of the strong desire to remain detached and observe.
Gee, maybe I'm more INTp than ENTp after all...

[booyalab]

I think my worst habit that is apparent on here is needing to have the last word... :P but I'm getting better, for instance: I haven't let myself even look at the strict rules thread since I last posted. In an argument that's halfway important to me I'm virtually incapable of verbalizing the slightest hint of compromise or inclination towards harmony on my part(not that I want to..but after awhile, in an argument, for lots of (other) people it becomes less and less about the idea in question and more and more personal..and that's not beneficial for the intended purpose of said argument), so I just have to wait for the other person to give up...or not allow myself to say anything else. (<--and to do the last thing it usually requires not letting myself hear/see anything else the other person wants to say)

(<--this is another habit, but I don't consider it bad..if you do, oh well!-->)

[jyakulis]

I think my worst habit that is apparent on here is needing to have the last word... :P but I'm getting better, for instance: I haven't let myself even look at the strict rules thread since I last posted. In an argument that's halfway important to me I'm virtually incapable of verbalizing the slightest hint of compromise or inclination towards harmony on my part(not that I want to..but after awhile, in an argument, for lots of (other) people it becomes less and less about the idea in question and more and more personal..and that's not beneficial for the intended purpose of said argument), so I just have to wait for the other person to give up...or not allow myself to say anything else. (<--and to do the last thing it usually requires not letting myself hear/see anything else the other person wants to say)

(<--this is another habit, but I don't consider it bad..if you do, oh well!-->)

If it's your worst habit how is it you do not consider it bad?

[booyalab]

If it's your worst habit how is it you do not consider it bad?

there are 2 arrows pointing away from that last sentence, what are they pointing to? they're pointing to these: ( )! that also explains the fact that I said "another" ! Did I say writing parenthesis was my worst habit? no! I did not! In conclusion, you're wrong! :)

[jyakulis]

there are 2 arrows pointing away from that last sentence, what are they pointing to? they're pointing to these: ( )! that also explains the fact that I said "another" ! Did I say writing parenthesis was my worst habit? no! I did not! In conclusion, you're wrong! :)

Ohh well I thought you were just making things pretty. I've decided to pick up a new bad habit of misinterpreting all yer posts.

[booyalab]

I've decided to pick up a new bad habit of misinterpreting all yer posts.
I think the 'misinterpret all booyalab's posts' club is full. There might be a waiting list though...or you could make a similar club and call it something else to avoid copyright infringement

[MacGuffin]

I think the 'misinterpret all booyalab's posts' club is full.

Did you just call me a transexual fascist?!?!?

[booyalab]

Did you just call me a transexual fascist?!?!?

and a bad one at that!!!! the black robotic-looking mask and cape isn't remotely gender specific! and I don't care that it was on sale at Goodwill!

[Edmond Zedo]

I haven't let myself even look at the strict rules thread since I last posted.
That's too bad. One word: 31337n00b8008Pr0n7r0\/\/\/\/z0rzzzz!

[PonderBee]

- I like to delay going to bed. I hate the notion of having to go to sleep. So I surf until I'm dead tired and then sleep.

- I like to talk to myself; about the current situation, on reflections and occassionally looking into the mirror (while doing funny faces) while doing it.

- When talking to an extrovert who's just telling me about the details of the day, I'm reduced to only be able to respond with 'uh huh, okay, right'. I fail to re-account my day the same way.
Yes - all of these + the emulation.

Without meaning to, I often find myself mimicking a person right down to their level of eye contact, head-nod, as well as the inflection and volume patterns of their speech. I do not, however, assume a heavy version of an individual's accent. This ability helped rid me of of my New Yawk accent at a fairly young age.
I think that I am incapable of listening to anyone's drivle about the events of their day. Same thing with television/movie ads - my mind "rescues" me from such crap. As for correcting or criticizing someone's ability to properly navigate any given language - that is just rude. I did this as a teenager and forced myself to knock it off.

[jyakulis]

Another thing I remembered while taking a walk just then:

- I emulate other people constantly. For example, after hearing a Kennedy speech, I am immediately rendered to speak like him both in accent and style. It wears off just as quickly. (On this matter, I'm too often living in 'emulation' mode rather than being myself and this often causes me to think "who am I suppose to be?")

lol I do that too.

[coffeezombie]

Without meaning to, I often find myself mimicking a person right down to their level of eye contact, head-nod, as well as the inflection and volume patterns of their speech. I do not, however, assume a heavy version of an individual's accent. This ability helped rid me of of my New Yawk accent at a fairly young age.


Why would anyone want to rid themselves of an accent? Accents are cool, and also an important part of one's past growing up.

[PonderBee]

Why would anyone want to rid themselves of an accent? Accents are cool, and also an important part of one's past growing up.
Simply because the accent didn't work for me. Perhaps a child having to suffer the pain of people of all ages teasing him/her because of a thick Brooklyn accent is your idea of an important part of one's past growing up - but I found the experience to be painful.

[coffeezombie]

Personally, I'm a little too proud of my roots to ever change any kind of accent. But I guess that others don't try to live life as pridefully as I do. :P I don't have too strange of an accent, anyway.

[PonderBee]

But I guess that others don't try to live life as pridefully as I do. Gee, I guess that I am just a screwed-up lout for having 86'd something that was counterproductive in my life.

[coffeezombie]

Gee, I guess that I am just a screwed-up lout for having 86'd something that was counterproductive in my life.

Well, I think the world would suck if everybody talked exactly the same, but maybe that's just me.

[PonderBee]

maybe that's just me.
What is your problem tonite?

[coffeezombie]

What is your problem tonite?

I don't have a problem with you personally, of course. I just don't like the idea of seeing uniqueness erased because of people's self-consciousness. I'm not the one who said you are flawed, you did. Would it be a good idea for all of us to stop being INTPs just because there are not many INTPs and we got teased?

[cjs55]

The internet, slacking, not exercizing/practicing socializing enough.

[Shai Gar]

3) Not being able to "dumb things down" without apparently making someone feel like an idiot. I get this a lot when I try to show or explain to relatives anything related to computers. I alternate between "geek speak" and "see Dick run". (As far as I am concerned you have 3 options: you know it, you don't know it, or you know enough to figure out the rest in context.)
and this is why i am considered arrogant

[Frab]

Well, OK not the Supremes tune if I recall, tone deaf... Well, if I do detect in very uninformed recognition just a little itty-bitsy poor self-image among thankfully few in this newly encountered INTP forum I gratefully join, I have always been personally floored by the realization that: you just can't respect others, if you do not respect yourself... So evident as to be boorishly boring a statement!

And boo hoo! I take Serotonin's earlier reply to my first post as an entirely positive rejoinder. That is, I've pretty well had it stuck in my craw that: you must get help, blah, blah, blah. No magic pills, I just need communication: first with kindred folks who take no BS, second with same who can validate and encourage changing what I have made a mess of thus far, living up to the potential of a pretty darn good set of personality attributes.

Perhaps not without some obvious failings however, is people-pleasing a known behaviour among INTPers?

[Shai Gar]

:) i enjoy my australian accent, american and english chicks near swoon when i lay it on thick

[PonderBee]

:) i enjoy my australian accent, american and english chicks near swoon when i lay it on thick
Yup, the Australian accent can be a turn-on - depending on the source.

[Frab]

Slight clarification of the question... not wanting to bash anyone with 'recovery halo' jargon. People-pleasing as a defence behaviour?

[C.J.Woolf]

I see nothing wrong with picking up an accent that pleases you, or losing an accent that doesn't.

[Arcades]

I like sleeping. I blend in unless something angers me then I just want to smash things. I try to please people I care for unless I have decided that what they want is stupid. Then I have no qualms about saying no, even making them feel bad about it if they persist in demanding something from me I have chosen not to give. I dont relly care about the rules of spelling and !!!grammar!!!. And im to cynical.

[Sweet Paramania]

1: Too cynical.
2: Grammar.

Yes. Spelling and grammar get me. Sorry Arcades.

So does "I was sat down" (maybe more for the Brits, oh and yes you do not need caps to open a bracket).

Rant over.

[Dempsey]

- I hate the fact that humans have to sleep, so I always delay
- Saying something, then realising I feel the exact opposite
- Occasionally talk to myself. I restrain though, as it seems abit weird...
- Pitying people that don't deserve it
- Walking, when I could get a lift. Obviously so I can think
- I analyse my posts too much. You wouldn't believe the time it can take me sometimes to write something so simple

[hishou]

Talking to myself. Even in public.
Especially when my ears are plugged with music. I almost always go around with earphones.
And I delay sleep too, though it does come to a point where I have no idea what I'm doing at the computer, just that I don't want to turn it off.
Overthinking. Feels like my mind's running like clockwork nonstop. Keeps me from sleeping when I do want to sleep, because my mind's being hyperactive and refuses to rest.
Leave myself out on purpose in group situations. I trail behind others/generally walk alone on purpose. More time to think, I guess.
Chameleon behaviour. I find that I can come across as downright multi-personality if people I interacted with in a certain way saw how different I was with another person. It's not so much to please people that I behave differently, but it makes interaction a lot easier.

[Arcades]

I have dyslexia. There for reason suggests I am better than you. Or sompthing. I still can not figure out the whole minorety stand thing.

There I fixed Grammer.

[Frab]

Habits: delaying bedtime until I fall out of my chair; giving solutions to women who are upset when, 98% of the time, they really want an ear or a hug or something; nail-biting; correcting people; turning invisible.

Frab, speaking from this INTP's perspective, there's about 1% of my entire being that is people-pleasing. I do mirror people at times, but it is a conscious decision to blend in and not be bothered so that I can more readily observe the species without changing its behaviors. :D Otherwise, I've been told all my life that I don't get into pleasing others enough. Never occurred to me to change myself to make others happy; didn't see the wisdom in it. I like me the way I am.

Thank you TPol, for pointing out the obvious solution: I like me as I am, intuitive, thinking introvert. Well, there is much variance in the sample I am sure. As for the jargon, I picked up disingenuous words in my convoluted journey through the mazes of the self-help movement. Actually, I believe that much of it (safe when carefully chosen) is the snake-oil salemanship of the age. Right, this may offend some... Well, I've earned my uneducated opinions; but I do believe that change if needed must be addressed. What brings me here is more or less returning to first causes, after too long a time lost in circumstancial and disjointed memories.

[Daniel]

1) Dislike sleeping (why waste your life by sleeping when you have ample time to do so after you die?)

2) Like to correct others

3) Despise stupidity (makes me seem "holier than thou")

4) Dislike small talk, if I want to talk it must be about something specific and interesting, and not just the weather or how's school, etc.

5) Question everything. Like "why don't you like vegetables?" or "why are you so talkative?" If people are unable to give valid reasons or say "I dunno, I'm just like that" I will feel they are stupid. For me, everything must have a rationale behind it.

6) Perfectionist. This can be a rather annoying trait, as you do things so much slower since everything has to be just right. If I make many mistakes while writing out an essay I would feel like recopying it on a new sheet of paper.

7) Emotionally non-expressive. I seldom ever lose my temper (I only boil inwardly), very few jokes make me laugh out loud and I dislike talking or expressing myself in public places or lifts where strangers are around.

8) Obsessed with spelling an grammar (by-product of being most precise in thought and language :p)

[jread]

- Cannot turn my brain "off" at night to sleep. Will stay up as long as I can because I hate going to bed so much. This, in turn, makes me hate waking up in the morning because I got no sleep the night before.

- Demand a logical explanation for EVERYTHING.

- Procrastinator. I do my best work under pressure, at the very last minute. In fact, that's the only way I'm productive.

- Am quite unemotional most of the time and am unable to understand the emotions of others. My fiancee will get upset and explain why she's upset, but I will not "get it" at all.

- I never call anyone... they have to call me if they want to talk.

- Obsessive about whatever I'm interested in at the moment.

- I also do the "Yeah... uh huh... hmmm... yep... uh huh" thing whenever someone is telling me about their day or what one person said to another person, etc. I don't care about any of that stuff at all.

- I'm late to everything.

- Lose interest in books before I ever finish reading them.

[aether]

- I tend to avoid people at all times unless they serve a purpose...
- Think and overthink without realizing when, where, how, what, who I am.
- Think of how to take over the world.
- Distrust everyone around me.
- Fear of being overwhelmed.
- Desire to be independent of everything.
- I dont like to go to sleep because Its hard to tell apart dreams from reality.
- Always appear "dizzy" or "high on weed."
- Frustration at my condition while other less deserving are rich, famous, etc.
- Ask to many questions to the point where I realize that I might look stupid, I already know the answer, or people look at me funny.
- Tend to say outloud the opposite of what I mean.
- Say or do things to see how people will react, sort of devils advocate.
- Think of self as more intelligent but at the same time feel bad when other people don't see it.
- Dislike seeing other people laugh unless I know what its about (basic paranoia)
- Listening to DI.
- Reading and researching on internet until I realize its unproductive.
- Wasting time and not realizing so.
- Editing.
- Engineering the "comeback."

[glassmoon]

If I recal right, most of what was discussed in this thread was already mentioned in previous threads.


...
3) Not being able to "dumb things down" without apparently making someone feel like an idiot. I get this a lot when I try to show or explain to relatives anything related to computers. I alternate between "geek speak" and "see Dick run". (As far as I am concerned you have 3 options: you know it, you don't know it, or you know enough to figure out the rest in context.)
HeHe, when people want to knoww how to do something computer related, they always ask me, and as you said, I can't "dumb things down" too (although I'm getting better at it with time), I either explain it to them like they have to program an operating system next, explaining every single mouce click, or tell them that it's easy, go figure yourself...

[glassmoon]

- My room is a mess.
- ...
- Procrastination & last-minute cramming
- Obsessive thoughts about using fireweapons
- Spending too much time in front of my PC instead of interacting with real people or doing some physical activity
- ...
Same for me, but

Obsessive thoughts about using fireweapons :rofl:

I didn't know someone else does this too, except the boys who did the Columbain massacre. Welcome to the club :hello:

[Shai Gar]

now you know three people... only i assume he was talking about weapons made of fire

[glassmoon]

...
Without meaning to, I often find myself mimicking a person right down to their level of eye contact, head-nod, as well as the inflection and volume patterns of their speech. I do not, however, assume a heavy version of an individual's accent. This ability helped rid me of of my New Yawk accent at a fairly young age.
Oh, I don't mimick people like that, I mimick more the style and their views (devil's advocates...).
I try to avoid emulating other people at all cost, because it confuses people who know me who see me changing masks like that...

[ApeTheDog]

Yes, I have all the ones listed to some degree. Another one I have:

- I cannot explain things very well if people don't understand them right away. I can't dumb things down at all. It can be very frustrating if I'm trying to make a point, and nobody gets it. (then I repeat it, but I still don't explain it right, and so on. I've gotten in plenty of arguments because of this)
- I don't know when I'm in an argument. Because to me, it's still me trying to explain what I mean to the other person.
- Not seeing things from another perspective. It's very hard for me to look at things from a different perspective I know that perspective is wrong. I should do it more often, in order to discover the morcel of truth in the other perspective.
- I spoil movies for myself, all the time. When somebody says something inconsequential to the plot at the start of the movie, I immediately think: "Right. So that is going to come back as a surprise element near the end of the flick (it always does)" and then I store that information.
- Bringing me to: I remember the weirdest shit, all the time. I remember all kinds of things that are not useful at all, and that I don't intend to remember. I remember useless things for years and years in a row. (and yet, have a tremendously hard time studying)

[glassmoon]

- Not seeing things from another perspective. It's very hard for me to look at things from a different perspective I know that perspective is wrong. I should do it more often, in order to discover the morcel of truth in the other perspective.Very intersting, I saw many things which are distinctly AS-traits. I can't see things from other people's perspective, even when I really try. I realize that when I'll see things from the other's point of view, it will completly change the way I argue, but I can't...


- I spoil movies for myself, all the time. When somebody says something inconsequential to the plot at the start of the movie, I immediately think: "Right. So that is going to come back as a surprise element near the end of the flick (it always does)" and then I store that information.Yeah, I also can't "flow" with the film as others can. Two ENTP's I know, always pick at the begining of the film all those details which serve to build the "unexpected" ending and know how the film is going to end.


- Bringing me to: I remember the weirdest shit, all the time. I remember all kinds of things that are not useful at all, and that I don't intend to remember. I remember useless things for years and years in a row. (and yet, have a tremendously hard time studying)HaHa. Same for me. It seems as if I have no selective memory at all (I think that's somewhat Autistic too), I often suprise people by remembering useless details, which I haven't really tried to remember to save some free space in my brain, but they just register without me wanting to.

Made me wonder if INTP personality is the closest to AS of all types...

[glassmoon]

...- Pitying people that don't deserve it
- Walking, when I could get a lift. Obviously so I can think
- I analyse my posts too much. You wouldn't believe the time it can take me sometimes to write something so simple
That also seems AS-ish to me...

It's an AS triat of feeling strong empathy for others. For me it doesn't matter if I know that they actually don't deserve it, but I just feel it. I don't think it's a strong/dominant F, I rarely feel that, but when I happen to empathize with someone (or something, can be also an animal, planet...), it's strong.


- Walking, when I could get a lift. Obviously so I can thinkThis habit put me in misunderstandings many times, when people didn't get why I prefer to walk home than getting a lift with them...


- I analyse my posts too much. You wouldn't believe the time it can take me sometimes to write something so simpleIt is said that AS's can't get to the point, it's similar to the INTP trait of trying to find the perfect word and phrasing for every sentence they write. I do many rewrites before resolving on something I wrote, and when I return to something that I've a while ago, I'd always want to change it again, and never think that it's writen right...

[glassmoon]

I'm sorry for replying in chain, but I find here many things which are interestingly AS-ish...


1) Dislike sleeping (why waste your life by sleeping when you have ample time to do so after you die?)AS's usually have sleeping problems...
For me to remember what I dream can be rather frustrating, my dreams sometimes stay with me during the day. Sometimes I even can't tell if something I remember is from dream or real life. spooky...


6) Perfectionist. This can be a rather annoying trait, as you do things so much slower since everything has to be just right. If I make many mistakes while writing out an essay I would feel like recopying it on a new sheet of paper.AS's are Perfectionists.... They also can't finish tasks becuase of this, it's just never good enough to be called finished...


7) Emotionally non-expressive. I seldom ever lose my temper (I only boil inwardly), very few jokes make me laugh out loud and I dislike talking or expressing myself in public places or lifts where strangers are around. AS as well...
I know some NTP's who NEVER express themselves when they are angry, and it often leads to confusion, since they don't express it when they're boiling inside. By the way, this leads to cancer...

[glassmoon]

- I never call anyone... they have to call me if they want to talk.HaHa, I never use the phone too... I wonder what's the source of this INTP phonephobia.


- Obsessive about whatever I'm interested in at the moment.AS trait...


- I also do the "Yeah... uh huh... hmmm... yep... uh huh" thing whenever someone is telling me about their day or what one person said to another person, etc. I don't care about any of that stuff at all.When I engage in a small-talk I'd often zone-out (like when Homer leaves his body and it falls down) and eneter my thoughts world, then after a while, I'd find myself having no clue of what was going on...


- I'm late to everything.Same for me. Another AS trait BTW...


- Lose interest in books before I ever finish reading them.I even stop watching a film 3 minutes before it ends...

[n0mad]

I don't know that doing nothing useful can be described like a 'habit', but I have that.
And couple of more things, like:

listening to music whole day
daydreaming a lot
hanging on internet a lot
not eating at all for a couple of days in a row
need to everything do right, but never do it cause I always find 'righter'* way
...and never do that one either because I find another one more 'righter'. Note the infinite recursion. :)

* couldn't find better expression, sorry

[glassmoon]

=aether]
- Think of how to take over the world.[/QUOTE] :huh: I see have a competitor :huh:


- Always appear "dizzy" or "high on weed."Same for me.


- Think of self as more intelligent but at the same time feel bad when other people don't see it.AS trait. Never do their maximum out of fear of not being appreciated enough.


- Dislike seeing other people laugh unless I know what its about (basic paranoia)AS too.

[Sweet Paramania]

You shot me down, bang, bang.
:blink: :laser:

My apologies, I let the Dyslexic Massive off with almost anything. I have a few friends who are dyslexic so I can withhold my temptation to correct in situations like that.
:hello:

[Sweet Paramania]

ApeTheDog: I had the useless info remembering recently.

You may like the irony of this guys:

Three years ago a lecturer (professor for the US audience) told us that by the time we get to our final year, and take our exam encapsulating the first and second year material, few of us would remember basic stuff. His example was pH calculations, and I thought - NO, I'm brilliant at those. I WILL NOT FORGET!

Three years later I think: shall I give that stuff a quick look over before the exam? No. I know it. Spend time on the much more difficult stuff.

In the exam... yes it came up. I could remember it, but kept making silly errors relating to my mathematics and could not get from the data to the answer! :rant: :shock: :blush:

Thankfully it was multiple-guess/choice so I COULD, thankfully, work back from the answer to my data. Problem solved.

Funny though that I can remember who said it, which lecture theatre we were in, the weather too I think. Everything, but then still slightly screw up the question.

My memory shocks people all the time, but can make me very lax, on top of other things, in wanting to revise.

[glassmoon]

- Laughing to oneself at public from jokes that nobody else would have understood.

- Rehearsing music in the head like a radio.



Three years later I think: shall I give that stuff a quick look over before the exam? No. I know it. Spend time on the much more difficult stuff.

In the exam... yes it came up. I could remember it, but kept making silly errors relating to my mathematics and could not get from the data to the answer!

Thankfully it was multiple-guess/choice so I COULD, thankfully, work back from the answer to my data. Problem solved.Happens to me a lot. I don't even bother to solve one problem to see if I still remember the matterial. Anyway I usually solve problems in "reverse-engineering" of the exam, I simply try to intuite what the testers want to check, and what tricks they use to fool me. That's why school and tests are no really good for me, I use my skills to learn as little as possible...

[Arcades]

Yes, the minorety stand wins again! I think... or maby I just makes the world at large look more stupid. :)

I spell everything phonicly. and you have to agree grammar sounds more like grammer.

[ApeTheDog]

Yes. Up to this day, I can still remember the value of pi that was on my calculator. I just remembered it one day when I was bored in class, and I know it still, now, about 10 years later.

3.141592654

(the last digit is not a 4 but a 3, I think, in the real pi, but my calculator only had 10 numbers so it rounded)

[Shai Gar]

that is why you multiply pi by 1 and then - 3.14159265 and then you get the rest

[illi]

I'm terrible at remembering how I got somewhere. I tend to take in more specific details of places/things. If I'm lucky, I can work my way back via things I actually took note of. I usually rely on someone being with me, to pay attention to how we got there and such.

I understand things easily and quickly, but storing the details of it is blah. I might remember a specific step/part if the formula. I have to practice and practice to get it to stick, which I tend not to be inclined to do -_-. It doesn't help my Intro Calc scores. Although, I often remember random, often useless pieces of information, in great detail.

I often forget what I'm about to say/was thinking about, especially if I'm momentarily distracted. It just er.. Falls out of my head?

(I forgot what I was going to put next)

Gyeh. Anyway, apparently females are supposed to have poor map reading skills. A certain lack of some skill area, I forget the name of it. But I can read them fine, as long as I know what direction I'm heading in relation to the map. Any other people?

Oh. I have this really weird habit/thing. Just say I was listening to music while I was doing something, even something completely inane, often when I hear that song again, specific details of the situation come back very strongly(weather, temperature, what I was reading/writing/typing, how I felt about it, lighting, where I was, how it looked). It can be somewhat, overwhelming/suprising(I think) at times. I can link ambiences/feelings with things to, it's really weird, it might be a completely different situation, but if the ambience is the similar, it reminds me strongly of another time.

Needless to say, this post is far to long

I'll be quiet now.

[n0mad]

Oh. I have this really weird habit/thing. Just say I was listening to music while I was doing something, even something completely inane, often when I hear that song again, specific details of the situation come back very strongly(weather, temperature, what I was reading/writing/typing, how I felt about it, lighting, where I was, how it looked). It can be somewhat, overwhelming/suprising(I think) at times. I can link ambiences/feelings with things to, it's really weird, it might be a completely different situation, but if the ambience is the similar, it reminds me strongly of another time.
I have that too. I associated Bob Marley with playing Magic the Gathering, Pearl Jam with jogging (I wore mp3 player), Leonard Cohen with sleeping, Nick Drake with contemplating, etc.

[Daniel]

I need to know what's an AS trait...

Oh, and I just remembered one more habit - I am fiercely protective of my privacy and like to lock my doors. I don't even feel comfortable using public (male) toilets when there are others around, and I always use cubicles than urinals.

[ApeTheDog]

Daniel: Asperger Syndrome. It's a specific type of autism. They're usually intelligent people who can't block out impulses, like background noises.

Shai Gar: Good thinking. I hadn't thought of trying that. Maybe it'll work. I kind of doubt it, but it's definately worth a try.

[PiccoloNamek]

Oh wow, where to begin. First off, excellent replies all of you, I see myself in so many of those. Also, I've never seen so many cases of DSPS in one place before!

As for my own habits:

-I have a habit of becoming so deeply lost in thought that I expericence very intense blindslight episodes. Once, I was walking home from the gas station, and suddenly, I was home, and I couldn't remember how I had gotten there! It was as if my body had been walking home on its own while my mind wandered the expanses of the universe.

-I'm incredibly afraid of making mistakes. In anything. Mistakes are shameful and unacceptable. Mistakes shouldn't be learnt from; you should think far ahead enough to never make them in the first place.

-I have a bad tendency to become very short tempered with people who aren't predisposed to a calm standard of behavior like myself.

-I have a very bad tendency to keep rambling on about certain things until the people around me just can't take it anymore. I've even made people cry before. :(

-I would say that I have a predisposition to cynicism. I try to avoid it, though, because it isn't healthy and doesn't make me feel good.

-I have a tendency to keep my emotions bottled up, which is bad, because at my core, I'm actually a deeply emotional person. I just have nobody to open up to.

-I too, stay up all night until I'm literally too tired to function. Then I sleep all day long, usually until around 1PM.

-My musical tastes are supreme, and I'm indignant that others' aren't the same as my own. :D

-I too, vividly re-experience certain memories when listening to certain songs or tunes. For example, when I listen to "Hitorijime" from the CCS soundtrack, I can distinctly remember making a deathmatch map in UnrealEd. I can remember the map, what part of the map I was working on, what time it was, where I was... everything. It also brings back memories of the first time I watched Soylent Green, heh.

-I have little patience for people who aren't good with computers. In today's society, it's just unacceptable. I'm the only one in my family that can even hook up a computer, let alone maintain one in good working order.

-Whenever I come across a particularly enthralling thought, I have habit of stopping and staring at things/people/into the distance with realizing it, and I often get strange looks and questions because of it. "What are you looking at?" Damn S types. Can't you see that I'm thinking?

-I am prone to very mushy sentimental streaks.

-I have a tendency to use my own imagination as an escape from the harshness of reality.

-If it's close enough, I would rather walk someplace than hitch a ride. In fact, I nearly always turn down rides when they're offered. Of course, during these walks, I am always thinking very deeply about things. I'm also prone to going for walks very late at night, especially when there's a full moon. There's nothing more beautiful than a full moon at night! The neighbors must surely think me strange.

-I always carry my camera around with me wherever I go.

[cjs55]

-I have a habit of becoming so deeply lost in thought that I expericence very intense blindslight episodes. Once, I was walking home from the gas station, and suddenly, I was home, and I couldn't remember how I had gotten there! It was as if my body had been walking home on its own while my mind wandered the expanses of the universe.

Same! I like this effect when it occurs. It's like...sweet. I'm already home. It's like I just teleported or something.



-I have a very bad tendency to keep rambling on about certain things until the people around my just can't take it anymore. I've even made people cry before.

-I would say that I have a predisposition to cynicism. I try to avoid it, though, because it isn't healthy and doesn't make me feel good.

Same problem with both here. Except with the latter, I sort of like being cynical. It feels pretty healthy to me...




-My musical tastes are supreme, and I'm indignant that others' aren't the same as my own.

I would say it word for word. Except over time, I've come to accept that since most other people are idiots, thus it would be offensive to me if everyone did listen to the same music which I did.

[glassmoon]

-I would say that I have a predisposition to cynicism. I try to avoid it, though, because it isn't healthy and doesn't make me feel good.I doubt you reach my level of cynicisim.


-I have a tendency to keep my emotions bottled up, which is bad, because at my core, I'm actually a deeply emotional person. I just have nobody to open up to.Interesting. Do you mean you have a strong F?


-My musical tastes are supreme, and I'm indignant that others' aren't the same as my own. :DHaHa, same here. What's your favorite music?


-Whenever I come across a particularly enthralling thought, I have habit of stopping and staring at things/people/into the distance with realizing it, and I often get strange looks and questions because of it. "What are you looking at?" Damn S types. Can't you see that I'm thinking?Same here.


-I am prone to very mushy sentimental streaks.Now it start to sound AS-ish...


-I have a tendency to use my own imagination as an escape from the harshness of reality.Interesting, I think many introverts develop rich personalities like that.
Do you day dream about useing firearms too?...


-I always carry my camera around with me wherever I go.Did you take any interesting pictures?

[glassmoon]

I would say it word for word. Except over time, I've come to accept that since most other people are idiots, thus it would be offensive to me if everyone did listen to the same music which I did.Are you sure this isn't the other way around and you only listen to what others don't like?

[PiccoloNamek]

I doubt you reach my level of cynicisim.

I don't know, I think I've probably come pretty close. I've improved as of late, though.


Interesting. Do you mean you have a strong F?

I don't know about that. I think I'm just an INTP of deep emotions, that's all.


HaHa, same here. What's your favorite music?

Mostly classical and video game music. (The good kind, like from the Final Fantasy series). And don't forget anime music.


Now it start to sound AS-ish...

I'm afraid not.


Interesting, I think many introverts develop reach personalities like that.
Do you day dream about useing firearms too?...

No, I can't say that I have. My daydreams are of a much more serene nature.


Did you take any interesting pictures?

Yes. http://forums.intpcentral.com/showthread.php?t=3931

[cjs55]

Are you sure this isn't the other way around and you only listen to what others don't like?

Yep. Besides, plenty of people like Beethoven and Debussy, and even the music I listen to (in fact, quite a few retards listen to the music I listen to...hmmmm....)

[Birdsnest]

Wanting to know every viewpoint, and accepting/integrating them all in a complex symphony of information whether its conflicting or not, and trying to absorb all these different perspectives. Not being able to quickly develope my OWN opinion, my OWN persona easily enough. Being a bit too wishy washy for the sake of understanding. False Belief that others are more powerful than myself. Not following through with artistic whims, ie, not taking my own interests to town.

[Chrysalii]

-I zone out during class
-I talk to myself (I'm not alone) I do it loudly in the shower
-I have problems explaining things, if someone next to me needs help I just say my thoght process.....and they are still confused
-sometimes what peeople say will stick with me for another 5 minutes, I just repeat it in my head
-I do my best work when the deadline is the next day (97 on a research paper in ninth grade that I did the night before, but an 85 on one I did a week before in tenth)
-Horrible grammer
-I wake up in the middle of the night for no appearant reason
-I am a perfectionist (even one of my teacher's said so)
-It feels odd when I'm with just one other person, I feel like I should say something, but I don't know what to say (I can't do small talk)
-I always work alone
-I'm extremely private, if someone walks down here I will close all my windows, or turn off the monitor, or if I'm in my room it's always locked
-Extreme obsession, but it only lasts a few weeks max
-I often think up ways to hurt/humiliate my enemies
-I don't really show emotion
-I am a very poor self-advocator
-I lose track of time easy
-I forget things I was just thinking about (I also forget words sometimes)
-I have difficulty expressing anything (speaking, writing, posting, etc...)
-I am picky (it has to be just right)
-I replay songs in my head

[Pedro_The_Lion]

I'm far too brilliant for my own good. ;)

[deviousingly]

I'll try to list some habits that I didn't see mentioned (as much)

I have a compulsion to read documents that outline rules...such as codes of conduct, dress codes, academic procedures in college handbooks, ect. I don't read them so I can follow the rules... I just find them interesting (and maybe so I can anticipate whats coming when I don't follow them and be a step ahead somehow.)

When something in my little bubble of a world starts bothering me, I'll start defining my world in progressively larger terms and then I won't care about the annoyance anymore. For example...I'll be annoyed that radio stations play junky music...then I'll reason they have to play it based on highest satisfaction..which leads to advertising principles which leads to economics --> overpopulation--> mass production --> red shift/blue shift somehow...and the atoms I'm currently made up of now may be part of a future star system. Then I don't care about the radio anymore and almost hit a few cars while driving because I'm thinking about where my atoms are going.

I absolutely hate writing papers. They are always too short because I refuse to repeat anything, I don't provide enough details and I mistakenly assume the person reading my paper can connect idea A to idea B without me having to spell it out for them.

I refuse to use internet shorthand...unless I'm being a goofy jerk. One of my friends uses it and I have equated it with her personality. When we see each other and she laughs at one of my tremendously funny jokes, all I can see in my head is "LOOLOLOLOL".

I count spelling mistakes in whatever I'm reading.

I assume everyone is usually joking around/being sarcastic... probably because I usually am. It kinda surprises me when people on this forum take some things too seriously...then the original poster has to come back and clarify their obvious joke. It's not a big deal, just funny.

Back to lurking!

[CoHo]

I STRANGLE HITCHHIKERS!

edit...oh shit!

[kruT]

Habits?
They're not habits, they're quirks!

[snarled]

I have a compulsion to read documents that outline rules...such as codes of conduct, dress codes, academic procedures in college handbooks, ect. I don't read them so I can follow the rules... I just find them interesting (and maybe so I can anticipate whats coming when I don't follow them and be a step ahead somehow.)



Hehe. I read anything. I probably go over the calender, tampon instructions, and aerosol can at least 3-4 times when "occupied". Hmmm...I should probably fork out for some magazines.

[kuranes]

Lots of good responses here. i can't remember them all, unlike some of you, perhaps. Two that stuck out were Ape's wonderfully worded one about not always realizing it when he's in an argument. ( You're one cool dude, Ape. BTW, is your avatar a picture of the real you? I don't know why it matters, but I often wonder that as I'm reading your posts. I used to think garak's was him, too! )I'll be trying to explain my reasoning to someone, to explain how I came to make a certain mistake, for example, and they'll think I'm denying that I MADE the mistake.

The one about being a chameleon hit home. I've been doing that for a long time, but had to put it to use as a salesman after college when I drifted in to that line of work. For a while there I even went so far as to mimic regional accents when I was selling on the phone.

I have a friend who rarely initiates things, especially over the phone. i think he may be INTP. He's extremely generous in every other way. But you typically have to call him if you want to talk or propose doing something. We were driving somewhere once, with him at the wheel, and he had a series of mini-maps printed off the net, each showing a fragment of the whole territory we were negotiating, that didn't work for me at all. I was trying to navigate by reading signs. He angrily pointed at one of the maps and said "And you accuse me of being so passive," letting me know he thought I was being a poor navigator. My first thought was "I didn't know you were even having trouble finding the route" and so I was annoyed that he had let it build to the point where he felt he needed to raise his voice. But then I thought "Yeah, I should have volunteered inside my head to try harder with these maps of his and be useful."

At this very moment I should be going to sleep instead of typing this out. As Serotonin said once "This site can be addictive." K

["InsertNameHere"]

I like/have to read while I'm eating. It can be anything a novel, newspaper, cereal box, dictionary...etc. I was read the yellowbook phone directory (on letter P) once. It was several years old, but at the time i thought it was very entertaining. I threw it away as soon as I finished eating .

[PiccoloNamek]

I have a question: do you INTPs keep your rooms and houses clean? I'm an INTP, and I always keep my surroundings impeccably clean and orderly. A beautiful atmosphere is necessary for inner peace.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v135/PiccoloNamek/Myownroom2.jpg

["InsertNameHere"]

My area is always sanitary (i have Mysophobia. Clorox wipes are my best friends) BUT it is always messy!

[PsiKik]

:) i enjoy my australian accent, american and english chicks near swoon when i lay it on thick
1) Do you really say "g'day" as a greeting?
2) How often are men referred to as 'Bruce'?
3) Do people really wear those hats with corks dangling round the rim?

[Wilde Mutton]

- I also read anything I can get my hands on whenever I happen to do something as mundane but essentially necessary and altogether too distracting such as eating. Hence I´ll never really notice what I´m eating. That, or if there are people eating in the same table with me who are reasonable enough I´ll have a debate with them on virtually anything that springs to mind.
- I debate a lot. It doesn´t really matter to me if I win or lose (it´s the argumentation process I enjoy most), but most of the time people can´t be bothered to follow the arguments to the bitter end but say they´re tired and quit while they´re not ahead. How frustrating is that? I also become more demonstrative during debates than what I normally am, getting so caught up that I virtually grasp my interlocutor by the collar to emphasize the finer nuances of what they have just said but do not see, the finely interwoven consequences of their arguments, especially if they work in my advantage.
- I don´t ever remember tiring of analyzing and thinking. I consider it a fine way to start/continue/end the day.
- I keep my desk clean so I can work on it and leave a mess of books and papers right next to it on the floor or in boxes where the papers are generally archived so I know they´re there somewhere.
- I never throw any books or papers I might have come across away. I might need them. It even feels like a waste throwing away old newspapers (and we´re talking about years here, not weeks or months).
- I´ve grown used to the company of my friends. Can´t say I enjoy it thoroughly all the time, but I´ve grown tolerant of it when I don´t enjoy it. The most fun I have out of people is during a debate, but their presence brings occasional solace and comfort, and my friends insist on my presence often enough for me not to get to the point where I actually start CRAVING FOR COMPANY. They´re far too kind. I always feel out of sorts and agitated in a crowd or near one, but one-on-one encounters I can deal with equanimity, since I usually "test" people by saying something which immediately repels the troublesome kind.

[glassmoon]

I like/have to read while I'm eating. It can be anything a novel, newspaper, cereal box, dictionary...etc. I was read the yellowbook phone directory (on letter P) once. It was several years old, but at the time i thought it was very entertaining. I threw it away as soon as I finished eating .HaHa, Yep, same here. I just need something to concetrate on, eating doesn't take much thinking.

[glassmoon]

I have a question: do you INTPs keep your rooms and houses clean? I'm an INTP, and I always keep my surroundings impeccably clean and orderly. A beautiful atmosphere is necessary for inner peace.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v135/PiccoloNamek/Myownroom2.jpgNice wall painting.

I think there is a difference between keeping the surroundings clean and orderly. Just look at the thread of the messy desk contest, we're tend to be not so orderly. On the other hand I think INTP's have to keep their room clean.

[illi]

1) Do you really say "g'day" as a greeting?
2) How often are men referred to as 'Bruce'?
3) Do people really wear those hats with corks dangling round the rim?


I'm not Shai Gar but I'll answer if you like.

1) I don't, it's more common in rural areas, but then again rather uncommon anyway (speaking from a West Aus pov). I say G'night, if that counts o.O. My dad says howdy in regular conversation... It's odd.

2) Actually named Bruce, as nickname, or like "You are such a Bruce"? I've never heard the last two. I know one person named Bruce, but I think he's 50, I can't say I've met anyone younger than that called Bruce.

3) No... As far as I know anyway. (would be rather disturbed if some people di, although there's bound to be someone -_-)

[MacGuffin]

I have a question: do you INTPs keep your rooms and houses clean? I'm an INTP, and I always keep my surroundings impeccably clean and orderly. A beautiful atmosphere is necessary for inner peace.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v135/PiccoloNamek/Myownroom2.jpg (http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v135/PiccoloNamek/Myownroom2.jpg)

Stuff is clean, I don't leave food or dishes out. I vacuum and dust. But orderly? Only when forced to do it by having company come visit.

[Birdsnest]

I accumulate paper and have to figure out the best way to organize it. A clear binder with divider tabs works good for the tons and tons of recipes I have for instance, and internet information I've printed out. Organizing paper is a real chore for me, and I do have to go through things and thin things out more than I really like to. I generally like to have an uncluttered atmosphere, and I think better when no clutter is around. But I also take into consideration that I don't really have enough time to devote to cleaning all the time. So, I've adopted an attitude of I'll clean when I have time, and so on weekends I always have that cleaning to do. So I'm really both clean and messy, with a bent for general organization as much as possible. Tend to be a little messy, do dishes in morning and laundry on weekends, and filing when I can and floors when I can. I always try to correct things on a regular basis on weekends, my living room is generally pretty clean.

Laundry, dishes and floors are perpetual battles.

[coffeezombie]

My habits are so ingrained that I can't even think of any I have. I'm sure people who know me well could point out quite a few, though.

[C.J.Woolf]

I hate to clean. The dirt and dust just comes back and then I have to do it again. I hate doing the same job more than once.

[Voidoid]

these are just my bad habits:

-excessive stimulant intake...endless coffee and cigarettes, occasionally more potent chemicals

-under stress, i drive/wander around aimlessly often for hours at a time, people-watching, smoking, thinking, listening to music, whatever else

rooted in the next one:
-motion greases the cogs, helps me think faster/more smoothly, so i'm always moving around. perpetual pen-flipping, walking around, throwing a ball at the wall, driving any kind of motion. i'm always fiddling around with small objects and accidentally breaking various things in my room.

-computer is the sleep killer

-i treat my car like crap, i'm very lazy with it. i only fill up the tank when it gets down to empty and starts beeping at me. if i don't feel my car is in danger of breaking down right away, i'll ignore the problem for as long as possible.

-certain type of information-seeking mode where instead of actually looking for truth, i look for something that can articulate what i already suspected intuitively. another stress response which i don't fully understand, but it can be useful. this is how i discovered the enneagram a few years ago.

edit: i forgot to add lurking on message boards. this is one of my oldest habits. i've spent countless hours lurking and lurking and lurking. lurking in real life too

[Eileen]

I always read this as "INTP Hobbits--put yours down!"

Yeah, I have an INTP hobbit named Fredwise Grabbins. HE SUCKS!

PS: it's not my intention to derail this thread... continue on, it's very interesting.

[MacGuffin]

I always read this as "INTP Hobbits--put yours down!"
Yeah me too.

[Miss Anthropic]

I always read this as "INTP Hobbits--put yours down!"




Yeah me too.

Me too, or "INTP Rabbits--put yours down!" and I resisted the urge, until now, to say "bad spelling" is the habbit to put down. I couldn't help it. Sorry

:whistle: .......or not.

[Helios]

escapism, emotional disconect,poor spelling, too much vodka



edit-meaningless sex

[tragula]

I hate talking on the phone! But I like Email.

I wonder if that is a strict dividing line between different types?

(haven't read all posts.)

[glassmoon]

...
-certain type of information-seeking mode where instead of actually looking for truth, i look for something that can articulate what i already suspected intuitively. another stress response which i don't fully understand, but it can be useful. this is how i discovered the enneagram a few years ago. ...How can it be useful?
I think I do something similar when I try to fit information in a system which isn't related to, and other shortcuts.

[glassmoon]

I hate talking on the phone! But I like Email.

I wonder if that is a strict dividing line between different types?

(haven't read all posts.)It was mentioned a few times before. This is one of the reasons the web houses so many INTP's... I also prefer web messages over the phone. I wonder what is the cause for this phone-phobia, and if it's INTP specific...

[PiccoloNamek]

I too dislike using the phone. I'd rather use AIM.

[prometheusdestroyed]

I hate talking on the phone! But I like Email.

I wonder if that is a strict dividing line between different types?




Don't know about that. I like using the phone and really find e-mail and messenger and even message board things a bit of a shag

["InsertNameHere"]

I hate talking on the phone and yet I work as a telemarketer at my college.

[Lee]

I hate phones.... there is nothing worse than a ringing phone, except having to pick it up and speak to the person on the other side.

[CENTIPEDE HEAD]

I grew up in the Deep South with thick, slow accents all around. Yet I didn't develop one myself for some reason. I don't have an accent, but I never intended not to have one. I have nothing against people with accents. It lends them "character." But I get impatient with especially SLLOOOW SOUTHERN DRAWWLS.

[CENTIPEDE HEAD]

I often stay up as late as I possibly can reading, be it books or internet. I am in the habit of waking up at the last possible minute. I hate to wake up. On foggy mornings, I will forget to turn my headlights off when I get to work but others usually remind me before my battery drains. I am habitually absent-minded. My surroundings are habitually in dissarray. But at least, as one person here said, it is "sanitary."

[Seraph]

* I'm big on "chameleon syndrome," and I was shocked when one INTP profile pointed it out (I was actually a little afraid I was straying from my type).

* I "zone out"...a lot. In class, if the lecture isn't incredibly interesting (and often even when it is), I'll go running off with a thought. For instance, if the teacher says "The most common forms of execution are electrocution, lethal injection, and the gas chamber," I'll latch onto the "lethal injection" part, and my thought process will go something like: Lethal injection? I wonder what that feels like. What if they can't find a good vein on a drug user? Maybe you can develop a natural resistance to the chemical they inject you with if you take tiny, tiny doses over several decades. I wonder if they'd let you live if you survived. I wonder if they'd execute me if I cried non-stop and made a bogus sympathy plea to the jury... etc.

* I make up stories in my head and spend classtime continuing them internally, dialogue and everything. Sometimes I start to identify too much with my "characters" and accidently make a movement or mutter something as if I were the character. I imagine this looks pretty weird to the people sitting around me.

* I view my life from a literary perspective and often imagine myself as the narrator. I construct sentences in my head about things that are going on.

* Every single possibility for any given situation is considered. If I look surprised at something that happened, I'm really only pretending.

* When listening to a song, there's a music video going on in my head for it. A made-up one.

* Hugs are awkward. Smiles are awkward. Why do I need to outwardly show that I'm happy?

* I pretty much don't have an opinion on anything. I've finally admitted it to myself and gone to trying to figure out why other people take their stances.

* It takes the average person seven minutes to fall asleep. It takes the average INTP about an hour and a half.

* Sometimes I'll ask people questions I already know the answer to. I don't know why I do this.

* I communicate much better through writing, e-mail, and AIM than verbally. For my age, I have a pretty expansive vocabulary, but when I'm face-to-face with someone, nerves reduce my vocabulary to about 50 words and a lot of "uh's."

* After a conversation is over, I replay it in my head and come up with things I should have said. I also predict how a conversation is going to go before it happens, but when it finally comes, I have no fucking clue what to say. Or, I'll stick to what I was going to originally say, and it will seem bizarre and out of place after what the other party said (example: I'm leaving the take-out restaurant with my food and am predicting the greeter will say "Have a nice day!" Instead, she says "Enjoy your meal!" and I fire back "You too!")

[Anti__F]

The reason why we prefer e-mail over the telephone is because we need time to analyse our subjects.
Talking on the phone goes to fast without the benefit of checking body-language.
We need time to build op our sentences.

[glassmoon]

* I make up stories in my head and spend classtime continuing them internally, dialogue and everything. Sometimes I start to identify too much with my "characters" and accidently make a movement or mutter something as if I were the character. I imagine this looks pretty weird to the people sitting around me.I sometimes too getting to much into the role...


* I pretty much don't have an opinion on anything. I've finally admitted it to myself and gone to trying to figure out why other people take their stances.Interesting, I wonder if it's a general INTP thing, because having a stance about something is like a belief, and INTP's have too reach conclusions by reasoning it...


* After a conversation is over, I replay it in my head and come up with things I should have said. I also predict how a conversation is going to go before it happens, but when it finally comes, I have no fucking clue what to say. Or, I'll stick to what I was going to originally say, and it will seem bizarre and out of place after what the other party said (example: I'm leaving the take-out restaurant with my food and am predicting the greeter will say "Have a nice day!" Instead, she says "Enjoy your meal!" and I fire back "You too!")I also can't make a fluent and spontaneous conversation, and when I plan one ahead I always find myself in a situation I hadn't foreseen and then I'm stuck without a plan and lacking spontaneity.

[MacGuffin]

* I make up stories in my head and spend classtime continuing them internally, dialogue and everything. Sometimes I start to identify too much with my "characters" and accidently make a movement or mutter something as if I were the character. I imagine this looks pretty weird to the people sitting around me.

* When listening to a song, there's a music video going on in my head for it. A made-up one.
:rofl:

Classic. Just like me. My SJ parents thought I was crazy at times. Then I learned to hide it very well.

[MaroonBells]

* I pretty much don't have an opinion on anything. I've finally admitted it to myself and gone to trying to figure out why other people take their stances.

* It takes the average person seven minutes to fall asleep. It takes the average INTP about an hour and a half.

* I communicate much better through writing, e-mail, and AIM than verbally. For my age, I have a pretty expansive vocabulary, but when I'm face-to-face with someone, nerves reduce my vocabulary to about 50 words and a lot of "uh's."

* After a conversation is over, I replay it in my head and come up with things I should have said. I also predict how a conversation is going to go before it happens, but when it finally comes, I have no fucking clue what to say. Or, I'll stick to what I was going to originally say, and it will seem bizarre and out of place after what the other party said (example: I'm leaving the take-out restaurant with my food and am predicting the greeter will say "Have a nice day!" Instead, she says "Enjoy your meal!" and I fire back "You too!")


Seraph, you are so right on so many things it's spooky! The laying in bed for an hour, replaying entire conversations looking for ways to improve, better communicating through writing.

Not having an opinion on anything is a highly underrated quality! Cheers!

[MaroonBells]

I have a question: do you INTPs keep your rooms and houses clean? I'm an INTP, and I always keep my surroundings impeccably clean and orderly. A beautiful atmosphere is necessary for inner peace.

Piccolo, I agree although I wasn't always like that. Now I hate nothing more than walking into my office with junk on the desk. I have to clean before I leave to keep my sanity.

[illi]

* I "zone out"...a lot. In class, if the lecture isn't incredibly interesting (and often even when it is), I'll go running off with a thought. For instance, if the teacher says "The most common forms of execution are electrocution, lethal injection, and the gas chamber," I'll latch onto the "lethal injection" part, and my thought process will go something like: Lethal injection? I wonder what that feels like. What if they can't find a good vein on a drug user? Maybe you can develop a natural resistance to the chemical they inject you with if you take tiny, tiny doses over several decades. I wonder if they'd let you live if you survived. I wonder if they'd execute me if I cried non-stop and made a bogus sympathy plea to the jury... etc.


Gyah, this happens so badly in chemistry for me. The teacher isn't bad, but he isn't great(he has a annoying 'boring' x factor o_o), and a lot of the people in our class never seem to get it the first time. So I get distracted by something in my textbook (for example, an article on the helium filled hindenburg exploding, today) and miss other information. If what the persons saying somehow is categorised as uninteresting, it doesn't sink in very well



* I view my life from a literary perspective and often imagine myself as the narrator. I construct sentences in my head about things that are going on.


hehe yes XD



* Every single possibility for any given situation is considered. If I look surprised at something that happened, I'm really only pretending.


Damn, you know whats horrid about this? Hurrying down some simple concrete path, and running visually through your mind tripping over and smashing your face against it >_<



* It takes the average person seven minutes to fall asleep. It takes the average INTP about an hour and a half.


When I was younger, I could never sleep, trying to clear my head was not easy. Somehow I've managed to figure out how to generally stop my thought train completely(harder if I'm stressed or worried o_O), and when I decide to go to sleep, I do so. It's good for you...


* Sometimes I'll ask people questions I already know the answer to. I don't know why I do this.

Hehe, I have a slight superiority complex I think. I do this too, especially if someone is challenging my chosen field of knowledge with their own knowledge. If they somehow prove themselves superior, I become more engrossed in said hobby until I come out level or slightly above. Unless I figure that it's pointless or unatainable. Can't say it's a particularily good trait of mine. I also ask these questions to guage what level a person is at, whether there interested, or knowledgeable of what I'm interested in. *looks at herself*
Blergh, I need to be less competitive.


I'm easily confused about dates and times. Even if I check my watch/diary/calendar I'm always forgetting/doubting what day/time it is. I'm easily confused, if I ask you what day it is, just tell me it's the day ahead, and my brain will be going in circles worriedly for a good 5 minutes.

[MaroonBells]

When I was younger, I could never sleep, trying to clear my head was not easy. Somehow I've managed to figure out how to generally stop my thought train completely(harder if I'm stressed or worried o_O), and when I decide to go to sleep, I do so. It's good for you...

illi, what's the trick, I am dying for some sleep :wacko:

[illi]

I think it's got to do with focus. Focus on one thing, even if it's lots of things about that one thing, try gradually narrowing it down until it's just the thing in your mind.

Try practicing focus and meditation techniques, relaxation things.

Might be 'cause when I was little(grade three maybe, not sure), my cousin scared me shitless with some story about some devil coming to get you if you said his name three times. This didn't help the no sleep thing. My mum encouraged relaxation and focus things, I had heaps of practice ^_^U

but hopefully that should help, if you stick with it

(almost)completely unrelated note: I had the wickedest night mares o_O

[MaroonBells]

Might be 'cause when I was little(grade three maybe, not sure), my cousin scared me shitless with some story about some devil coming to get you if you said his name three times. This didn't help the no sleep thing. My mum encouraged relaxation and focus things, I had heaps of practice ^_^U



Candyman, candyman, candyman ...

[illi]

How skewed urban myths become, the version I heard it's name was Red Foot o_O

....

If thats what your were referring to

[MacGuffin]

Candyman is a movie.

[kit]

Arguing from a position that I won't care about an hour later.

Overestimating my abilities. The minute that I understand a subject, I'll leave it for other pursuits. This leaves me to believe that I'll always fully understand the subject and can go back to it years later with full comprehension, without having to work on it. I suppose that it's sort of what someone said earlier (sorry, I can't remember who) about seemingly knowing the tested subject, yet when it came down to it he/she could only recall pieces of it.

Being veiwed as stoic by others. This one sometimes catches me by surprise, especially when it's my closest friends who have given me the label. In my head, there have been many instances in the past in which I have confided in them and have felt to have been a well of emotional outpouring. They obviously haven't thought so. I guess that any hint of emotion that I reveal to others feels like such a dramatic drag. (I, too, am embarrased of PMSing). :ph34r:

Sharp, precise tongue... specifically whenever someone attempts to make me feel like the lesser person. This is a truly dangerous weapon being a female in New York City. A lot of the men out here are dimwits. They try to talk to you as if you're to be submissive and simply accept their barbarous manner or cat calls. :rant: Nope, I can't do it :laser: . The results? Sometimes they realize that they're embarrasing to their kind and apologize in action or speech or they get hostile and cuss me out. This is why I'm truly grateful for the invention of the i-pod, which keeps me in my own world and most likely keeps my ass from being kicked.

Pretty much everything that Seraph has said. That cracks me up!!! 8O

[tomorrowteen]

Some of my habits include correcting other people's spelling, such as "habbits: and "Habbbits". :whistle:
Seriously, I share other habits that the others have posted, including, for some strange reason, arguing with myself when I can see both sides to an issue. (Something that has helped me as a writer, to develop good dialogue.)
I'll correct the pronunciation of some people, if they are reading aloud.
I'll filter out conversation that is unimportant to me, but listen carefully to other people, though they don't know it, whehn they are talking to someone else.
I have more, but that'll do for now.

Michael

[C.J.Woolf]

Arguing from a position that I won't care about an hour later.
Yes. I'll argue a position I don't even agree with just for the sake of arguing. It's a wonder more INTPs aren't lawyers.

[Anti__F]

I can relate to many habbits post here.
One habbit Im curious about other inpt''s having them:
I test people by fooling them with stupid jokes.
Do they fall for it?
The ones how don't ends up having my respect.

[Frab]

I have just had tremendous fun posting in the Playground, about one of my INTP habits, condescension...

[Winterpark]

I have a habit of writing a reply on a thread, look over it and decide not to post it if I don't like it or think that it doesn't really say much. I just deleted a reply with a quote on this thread, and I wrote this one, because I noticed it's becoming a habit. But sometimes I DO post some shallow posts (it's probably my Fe, or Fi ). *Currently thinking*: [Should I post this one?]

[glassmoon]

I have a habit of writing a reply on a thread, look over it and decide not to post it if I don't like it or think that it doesn't really say much. I just deleted a reply with a quote on this thread, and I wrote this one, because I noticed it's becoming a habit. But sometimes I DO post some shallow posts (it's probably my Fe, or Fi ). *Currently thinking*: [Should I post this one?] :rofl: You just broke your habit...

I do this too, in forum and in real life. I'd read some message and then start replying to it, then after it's finished and I'm ready to click Submit, it'd change my mind and click Back... In real life, many times I start to talking about something and then change my mind and say something else from what I was going to say (and do it obviously many times), or say nevermind, leaving the other curious of what I was going to say...

[Chod]

Wow...this is so much fun to read! I can find myself, or at least parts of me, in so many comments...it almost scares me :)

Especially the whole 'I know the basics, so it's not interesting anymore' applies strongly to me.
I recently started to learn 3D studio max and after a week of trial & error I had my house modeled and textured...now I think I'm the God of 3D. I haven't looked at it since... :)

[DevRock]

- I buy more books than I can read
- Procrastination & last-minute cramming
- Spending too much time in front of my PC instead of interacting with real people or doing some physical activity
- ...

I'm glad I'm not the only one. You guys wouldn't believe the stack of unread newspapers we have at home. My wife hates it. I can't seem to find the time to really sit down and read the Sunday NY Times (I have every week's NYT Magazine since February still....), my daily WSJ or the 7 auto mags I get every month. Oh, and I think I've bought at least 6 books in the past year I haven't touched.
Other habits include: starting projects and not being able to finish them.

[MaroonBells]

I just love buying books, even if I don't read them for years! Just the knowledge that I can walk over and grab it makes me feel all warm and fuzzy!

PS: all non-fiction of course!

[coffeezombie]

I just love buying books, even if I don't read them for years! Just the knowledge that I can walk over and grab it makes me feel all warm and fuzzy!


I don't like buying books much because I rarely read them more than once. That's why libraries are a godsend.

[DevRock]

- Cannot turn my brain "off" at night to sleep. Will stay up as long as I can because I hate going to bed so much. This, in turn, makes me hate waking up in the morning because I got no sleep the night before.

- Demand a logical explanation for EVERYTHING.

- Procrastinator. I do my best work under pressure, at the very last minute. In fact, that's the only way I'm productive.

- Am quite unemotional most of the time and am unable to understand the emotions of others. My fiancee will get upset and explain why she's upset, but I will not "get it" at all.

- I never call anyone... they have to call me if they want to talk.

- Obsessive about whatever I'm interested in at the moment.

- I also do the "Yeah... uh huh... hmmm... yep... uh huh" thing whenever someone is telling me about their day or what one person said to another person, etc. I don't care about any of that stuff at all.

- I'm late to everything.

- Lose interest in books before I ever finish reading them.


Holy crap.... and I thought the earlier explanation was me. THIS is me to a T! Scary. Very, very scary.... :ph34r:

[Sir Isaac Lime]

Buying books in a manic fury that I don't even read

Holding arguments with myself

Talking with myself in a non-english language

Intentionally burning myself out so I can "crash" instead of spending hours trying to fall asleep

Force others to call me, but then neglect to answer the phone - sometimes with a smile on my face

Acting out mock scenerios in my head, sometimes with physical movement and speech

Isolating myself from others - one time I spent 2 months inside my apartment

Taking a certain happiness in neglecting mundane activitities like cleaning - flinging wrappers and garments aside with sheer joy

Taking a certain loathing to being forced to cleaning up my messes once they've built up - blaming the system or the world for it's mandatory inconviences

Spending ridiculous amounts of time in the shower

Reading the backs of books or just the first 2 chapters and convincing myself and others that i've read them.

^ and it doesn't matter anyways because I got the concept - and thats all that matters

Simultainously over-estimating my own skill and under-selling myself to others

Becoming victim to my own head games by overanalysing a situation

Destroying relationships with family members and friends

[DevRock]

If I recal right, most of what was discussed in this thread was already mentioned in previous threads.


HeHe, when people want to knoww how to do something computer related, they always ask me, and as you said, I can't "dumb things down" too (although I'm getting better at it with time), I either explain it to them like they have to program an operating system next, explaining every single mouce click, or tell them that it's easy, go figure yourself...

This is a double-edged sword for me. It really, really sucks to have friends and family know you're the ONLY computer geek they can call on. For instance, no matter how many times I show my dad how to copy files from a camera to his PC to burn on a CD, he just doesn't get it. It's simple, but it's too complicated for him. He should get an Etch-A-Sketch instead.

On the flip side, my freelance biz is teaching dolts how to do simple things on their computers. It pays very very well. :)

[coffeezombie]

I drink too much coffee and spend too much time on the computer. Other than that, I have no other real habits. I get bored of most habits too easily.

[MaroonBells]

Intentionally burning myself out so I can "crash" instead of spending hours trying to fall asleep
..
Simultainously over-estimating my own skill and under-selling myself to others
..


Totally with you on the first, still don't understand why I also do the second ..

[glassmoon]

Talking with myself in a non-english languageHow is it called?...


Force others to call me, but then neglect to answer the phone - sometimes with a smile on my faceI'll never get why I do this...


Simultainously over-estimating my own skill and under-selling myself to othersInteresting... Seems paradoxial. Maybe it's because you don't like facades, so you don't "oversell" yourself like the rest...


Destroying relationships with family members and friendsIt's my main hobby. To initiate a relation and than terminate it :)

[glassmoon]

A habit of mine: I often write ideas enthusiastically like they're going to revolutionize the world, they never go into something...

[Partisan]

Subjectivity in relationships, and writing Vogon poetry.

[cjs55]

Losing myself in something and not eating.

[coffeezombie]

and writing Vogon poetry.

You can't possibly be as good as DeZonia, King of the Vogons.
http://intpcentral.com/index.php?mode=archive&a=thread&id=400

[s]

HaHa, I never use the phone too... I wonder what's the source of this INTP phonephobia.

AS trait...

When I engage in a small-talk I'd often zone-out (like when Homer leaves his body and it falls down) and eneter my thoughts world, then after a while, I'd find myself having no clue of what was going on...

Same for me. Another AS trait BTW...

I even stop watching a film 3 minutes before it ends...

What is AS? Aspergers?

[glassmoon]

What is AS? Aspergers?Asperger's Syndrome. Although I don't think AS is the INTP personality type, they're apparantly similar... I wonder when the similarity ends (except in communication)...

[CENTIPEDE HEAD]

Yes! I will write an email or post and spend a long time analyzing it for correctness, logical consistency, or my choice of words. And I agree with other INTPS here in that I also find difficulty taking sides in an argument, but simply want to analyze the argument to no end. If I choose to engage in a debate, I don't feel it's "ME" that's doing the arguing. It's sort of like "playing devil's advocate," although I detest the whole idea of that.

[nonsequitur]

habits? hmm.

- often going out on my own to get books or coffee
- watching a movie/film on my own (i tend to be a lot less inhibited when i'm alone)
- simultaneously going off on all tangents until i become really confused
- getting irritated at people who get tied up in what you're "supposed" to do without thinking about the principle behind the rules
- obsessing over many various things. i guess it helps if what i'm obsessing about is what i'm studying, but more often, it's about something else. i have a film/book/writing/philosophy obsession but my major is chemistry..
- being unable to wake up, and unwilling to sleep. if possible, i stay awake until i'm totally exhausted, then sleep until the very last minute. this makes me perpetually late for everything.
- over-analysing everything that happens. i can link a single event to almost anything else in my head. e.g. linking why the weather is screwed up to politics and human psychology and/or how the world is going to end.
- going on loooooong solitary walks, carrying a conversation with myself in my head the entire time.

[Combat]

1- over-analysing everything that happens. i can link a single event to almost anything else in my head. e.g. linking why the weather is screwed up to politics and human psychology and/or how the world is going to end.

2- going on loooooong solitary walks, carrying a conversation with myself in my head the entire time.


1. That reminds me of when I lived with my parents. If I had got a coin every time my mother said "Do you always have to analyse EVERYTHING???" I would be filthy rich :D

2. I'm doing that a lot too. I keep debating stuff with myself all the time and it's much easier to focus on the subject if there's no other people around. Besides, if anyone saw me when I'm in a heated debate with myself, they would probably think I was hearing voices or something.

[cwazyonyx]

Somedays I stay indoors so that I won't have to speak to my doorman.

I stay up very late to try to stop the next day of work from coming.

I don't make the bed until it's time to go to sleep, I can't climb into a messy bed, but I can look at one all day.

I find myself interrupting some people the second I know what they are going to say, which is usually before they are half done. I have to stop - I just get so bored so quickly.

I put off returning call for weeks at a time. Unfortunately my parent's take it personally even though I've been this way since I was a small child. Never liked the phone.

I find day to day tasks excruciating.

I iron my dry cleaning.

I park perfectly straight and evenly between the lines.

[Geek Engineer]

Hardly ever make the bed.
Have a hard time taking baths on a regular basis.
Always forget or put off doing laundry, clean dishes etc.
Usually end up wearing the same pants two or three times before I finally get around to washing them.
Forget my head if it is not attached.
Hair is usually a mess.
Do most things by myself.
I have few freinds, never had a girlfreind....

The list goes on and on...

Well I have spoken the truth, but have probably humiliated myself in the process. :shock:

[Sally]

Hardly ever make the bed.
Have a hard time taking baths on a regular basis.
Always forget or put off doing laundry, clean dishes etc.
Usually end up wearing the same pants two or three times before I finally get around to washing them.
Forget my head if it is not attached.
Hair is usually a mess.
Do most things by myself.
I have few freinds, never had a girlfreind....

The list goes on and on...

Well I have spoken the truth, but have probably humiliated myself in the process. :shock:

What?? S'not humiliating.

[Geek Engineer]

So What do you mean by the "S"? was is just the connotation What iS... or did you mean "S" as in MBTI? I wasn't exactly sure if I was reading too much into that or not Anyway, I was sort of being silly I guess, but my habbits are wierd I addmitt as most INTPs I assume.

[Sally]

So What do you mean by the "S"? was is just the connotation What iS... or did you mean "S" as in MBTI? I wasn't exactly sure if I was reading too much into that or not Anyway, I was sort of being silly I guess, but my habbits are wierd I addmitt as most INTPs I assume.

I was slurring. ;)

[Geek Engineer]

So then did you mean that I pretty much humiliated myself with my list or is what I said to be expected and normal for an INTP?

[Sally]

So then did you mean that I pretty much humiliated myself with my list or is what I said to be expected and normal for an INTP?

Answer B. ...And A, I suppose. Depending on your outlook. :)

[s0978]

So then did you mean that I pretty much humiliated myself with my list or is what I said to be expected and normal for an INTP?
oh dude, please try and relax
there is nothing humiliating on your list

[Geek Engineer]

I was just trying to understand what Sally ment, but I suppose if I ended up humilitating myself then.. Oh well that's life I guess... That is probably another INTP bad habit is to want to over analize things.

[s0978]

nope it's all good - no such thing as humiliating yourself

[Lu962]

I used to go on drives through the state park at a high rate of speed, not too bad, like 70 in the 35. I would do this like once a day 20-30 minutes at a time. This was largely because I don't really care for working out all that much, nor sports, but I had to do some thing to let loose and clear my mind. It's the one time where I can forget about everything and force my mind to shut down the constant ruminating. It requires focus and concentration and the real prospect of integration with trees n stuff was enough of a consequence to tame my mind. I have found few things in this life that work as well as this. I am trying meditation, but I'm not very good at it yet.

Also I put off sleeping till the absolute last moment. if I had it my way I would sleep from 3:30am to noon. but work comes early, DOH!

[athman]

I used to do exacly the same thing. I lived at the base of some pretty good hills and would regualrly go there for a short one hour blast to clear my mind. I like it for the same reasons, you are 100% focussed and with such small margin for error it makes you really feel alive. (unless you make a mistake, in which case you are not).

[prometheusdestroyed]

nope it's all good - no such thing as humiliating yourself
You should try wetting your pants in front of someone you've just started dating then!

[Lu962]

Without meaning to, I often find myself mimicking a person right down to their level of eye contact, head-nod, as well as the inflection and volume patterns of their speech. I do not, however, assume a heavy version of an individual's accent.

I certainly am a cameleon with certain people. I don't know what it is, sometimes I realy want to make a good impression, or hit it off with someone, and I figure that this emulation of conversational style helps me communicate in a way that they can better understand. If I could choose one way to communicate...it would of course be writing..because I can ponder, revise, and re-revise to make sure I have my true intent conveyed. Of course in the real world my communication often comes off as bland, and without passion.

Recently I recorded myself reading notes from a lecture, so that I could play it back while driving or whatever, killing 2 birds w/ one stone...I was really stunned by how dull I sounded to myself. Once I actually noticed it, I started trying to do it in different accents to make it fun, this got exhausting. And the reason it got exhausting, is because it was fake...I had no passion for HR mgm't, and trying to force myself to have it drained me. I actually ended up recording a few hours of notes, I went back to the monotone version LOL. God it was horrible to listen to.

I am just really bad at faking anything. I so crave internal/external consistency, and all forms of truth and honesty. If I am having a down day, I even find it hard to play up beat music because it seems to totally pester my mind saying..."this upbeat music that everyone else is listening to, you can't enjoy it because your too lethargic today." Its like my mind knows I'm faking it and it calls me out on it!! :rant:

[Lu962]

I do not, however, assume a heavy version of an individual's accent.

Jeez, I went off on 3 other points and forgot to make the one I intended....

I'm in phone sales at the monent, and a few times i've called alabama, or georgia, and seemingly without warning...I started mimicking them with a thick southern accent. when I hung up the phone, it had gone well, but I was like WTF just happened, why did I do that? I guess it was one of those rare impulsive decisions to do something kind of crazy speaking without thinking SJ things.

[melancholeric]

Jeez, I went off on 3 other points and forgot to make the one I intended....

I'm in phone sales at the monent, and a few times i've called alabama, or georgia, and seemingly without warning...I started mimicking them with a thick southern accent. when I hung up the phone, it had gone well, but I was like WTF just happened, why did I do that? I guess it was one of those rare impulsive decisions to do something kind of crazy speaking without thinking SJ things.
That's the chameleon thing. From here (http://intpcentral.com/?mode=profile#ne):

INTPs dislike making the first move and tend to mirror the emotional content of the other person. A jolly person will quickly bring the INTP out of his shell, as much as that is possible, while a serious person will find a serious INTP looking back at him. In this sense, INTPs preference for intuitive perception (rather than action) with respect to people results in them resembling a chameleon. The INTP can fit into many different modes of behaviour, even contradictory ones, in order to get into the mindset of the other person. The goal is to gain enough intuitive data to analyse and assess the person. In doing this, the INTP remains somewhat reserved, never wholly identifying himself with his surroundings.
I do that all the time.

[Melange]

1. definitely delay bedtime, I hate the fact of sleeping is required, I do surf until dog tired :)
2. have a icky time with small talk, especially with talking about how the day was, I just nod and say..yea okay
3. procrastination-self explanatory
4. I think too much, way to analitical

[abathur]

there are 2 arrows pointing away from that last sentence, what are they pointing to? they're pointing to these: ( )! that also explains the fact that I said "another" ! Did I say writing parenthesis was my worst habit? no! I did not! In conclusion, you're wrong! :)

This is so absolutely horribly late, but I couldn't resist commenting. I find myself needing to make asides constantly in parenthesis. In fact, I can't remember a day goes by that I don't find myself wanting to nest parenthesis so that I may have asides to my asides. While this makes plenty of sense to me, I really have to fight myself and re-write things or leave out detail I would love to add so that I don't have to create a complete mess out of things. :/

[abathur]

Yes. I'll argue a position I don't even agree with just for the sake of arguing. It's a wonder more INTPs aren't lawyers.

I've long thought about this. I love the argument, but I don't care to attempt to get someone who may be guilty off, nor do I care to prosecute someone who may be innocent. Sometimes it's necessary to take a really controversial position I don't agree with just to push enough buttons to get someone to really step up and get into it. :)

[abathur]

Reading the backs of books or just the first 2 chapters and convincing myself and others that i've read them.

^ and it doesn't matter anyways because I got the concept - and thats all that matters

Made it through my AP english lit course only reading greater than 75% of two of the books. I think the lowest content (not grammar based) grade I recieved was an 85, most of the papers and reading related essays I got As on. I absolutely abhor fact memorizing tests rather than concept-understanding tests. Essay questions are my friend, I'm always one of the few hoping more for concept related essay questions than fill in the blank or somesuch.

[abathur]

Found I do a lot of these, try to come up with something new:

- Needing to check my favorite forums/news sources as soon as I wake up and before I go to bed. (this actually helps keep me from being LATE to things because I try to wake up early enough to leave myself this time, but it usually results in me getting to bed pretty late, as mentioned by almost everyone :)

- Sometimes I'll find myself running through all the synonyms I know to a particular word that I or someone else said. Seems to be frequently sparked by a hasty use of a word that wasn't as precise as it could be for lack of a better word at that moment. Can be out loud or quietly.

- Considering commiting non-violent crimes just to see if I can determine and perform the steps necessary to complete the crime and get away with it. It's never gone past considering, though ;)

- Getting intensely irritated when people ask what I'm doing or why I'm doing it, especially repeatedly. I guess I usually feel it's either none of their business, or it's so obvious they shouldn't be asking.

- Coming up with my own quotes (involves saying something already said or coming up with something new to say in some poigniant manner.) To some extent this can be re-creating the wheel but I imagine most people we quote didn't spend a significant amount of their time regurgitating the knowledge of others, but on a quest to discover their own.

- Reading things backwards. Usually magazines. Not literally word for word backwards, but rather, page by page, back to front.

- Speaking in rhymes, can end up being internal or external.

Just some responses to a few other things:

Crowds v. solitude:
I find I don't mind crowds at all, as long as I'm not forced to interact. I wouldn't say I prefer crowds, but I'd rather be in a room with 500 people I don't know than in a room with 10 I don't know. In a crowd there are more opportunities for observation, and less likelihood of really being observed myself. In relation to the last part of that, I really love my music, and not all the time, but sometimes I do really feel like "moving" to it (I won't call it dancing because I can't)--I won't do that unless I'm alone or in such a large crowd that I am alone for most intents and purposes. I guess my point is that, in some ways, crowds can be liberating. For that reason I really _love_ going to a good concert and getting mixed in with a large crowd that is all bouncing around like crazy doing their own thing. Lets me break out with that urge without really getting noticed.

Piles of paper and other disorganized things around:
I'm wondering if this isn't at heart related to the frequently different way in which we think and associate ideas. That is to say, organizational systems available to us being created by those who are in greater number and more prolific organizers cater to the way _they_ would organize information. When we find the ways we would like to organize our things aren't readily available we frequently settle for just setting it down within an arms-length as it will be just as "findable" or more so than if filed, and not require the effort of maintaining a filing system/getting up to find anything in it.

[David Carolina]

1. Agree on the "hate going to bed" thing. Have always been like that. Theres always something to read.....why sleep when you can THINK?

2. Some obsessive tendencies. The stove checking thang'

3. Ditto talking to myself. We do it because no one else in our lives is as logical, so it helps us to verbalize our logic.

[nomir_dva]

- Reading things backwards. Usually magazines. Not literally word for word backwards, but rather, page by page, back to front.

I'm doing the same with this very thread. I tend to find the conclusions to things more interesting anyway.

[last_caress]

I can't get out of bed in the morning.
I am constantly late.
I don't like schedules or due dates yet I would probably get nothing done due to procrastination.
I don't like...
being controlled nor do I like controlling others.
non-meritocratic hierarchies.
senseless rules.
abuse of power.
answering the phone or the door.

I can't remember what I got on my AP english test, but it was decent considering I read none of the books.

[Claverhouse]

PLACE-HOLDER FOR CLASSIC STATUS

[deus.ex.machina]

I have endless notebooks filled with ideas that I have completely forgotten about, but could probably make me very rich.

I have several melodies that could be made into hit songs, but I have no desire to perfect them (yet I try to have perfect technique).

I constantly change ideas for my career, but I think I recently found the perfect one that takes the bulk of my interests into one domain of study: cognitive science.

I have 2 file cabinents, and about 10 large binders filled with information from the structure of pneumatic paintball guns-music cognition- exercise science- philosophy - meditation - pseudoscience - nootropics, etc. My bookshelf is just as random (well it appears random, but there is order to my chaos).

I have about 10,000 dollars worth of musical equipment and electronic toys, but not a single decoration or piece of furniture (my fiance who is moving in with me has changed that though).

I absolutely hate small talk, and consider it useless.

I consider myself a polymath (and everyone that knows me would as well)

Oh yeah, and I absolutely love being alone.




to name a few...

[iponjs]

I compulsively research something, even if it's not going to be purchased or happen for a long time. This usually involves staying up too late...

I also cannot leave a skin imperfection alone - it MSUT be squeezed, picked, generally harassed until blood flows (or pus if it's of that nature)...

[deus.ex.machina]

I compulsively research something, even if it's not going to be purchased or happen for a long time. This usually involves staying up too late...

I also cannot leave a skin imperfection alone - it MSUT be squeezed, picked, generally harassed until blood flows (or pus if it's of that nature)...

haha I actually do both of those things - especially researching. I am the only person I know that will spend all weekend at the library studying some "useless" topic that probably has no practical bearing to my life.

[Master O]

strangest thing happened today.

as far as i can remember, for the first time in my life, i took the first bite of my sandwich from the right side instead of the left - i always bite sequentially from left to right.

anyone else have little habits that are unexplainably, all of a sudden, broken?

[hackthegenome]

1.) I talk to myself, like almost everyone else said. I'm normally having a very in-depth dialog with myself. Normally I've already had a conversation with someone before I've actually had it. I told someone that once but it didn't go well.

2.) I'm terrible at captchas. I always have to type them in at least twice.

3.) I used to repeat whatever it is that I just said immediately afterward under my breath. I still do it sometimes.

4.) I'm pretty neat, but I think it's because I get bored easily.

5.) I research topics insanely thoroughly and then burnout and never look back.

6.) I get way too wrapped up in shit that I'm not actually doing. For instance I was trying to get my Python work hacked out and I instead spent the next two days getting my ATI drivers installed properly.

Most of the stuff other people said as well.

[venerationOFrabbits]

INTP Rabbits! What about those? put yours down! please

[Rice-Tactics]

-Over analyze the little things in life.
-I have big ideas but nothing concrete to make it happen.
-Music sounds better outside with noise canceling headphones.
-I hate school.
-I also obsessively research stuff.
-Dislike the phone and door as well.
-

[NightCrawler]

RE: Thread title

Correcting another person's grammar or spelling.

habits*

[vulcan]

RE: Thread title

Correcting another person's grammar or spelling.

habits*

First thought of mine coming into this thread.

Also, I do a lot of the same stuff as INTPs except all this talking to themselves stuff.

That's just a little crazy. I am completely nonverbal when alone. It actually is painful to talk when alone. I talk to myself in my head. I verbalize everything in my mind. There are voices in my head, but they are all mine :)

[GeoFizz]

/jump-starts thread again...

Above and beyond what others have said (e.g., nightowl + late-riser, talks to self...)


I love breaking the mold when it comes to eating; i.e., not eating standard types of meals, or eating whenever I feel like it, instead of during traditional mealtimes


I hate answering the telephone, so generally don't.


I get really plugged into driving, where I'm spatially aware of everybody else around me and my mission is to get from A to B as efficiently and quickly as possible. Drivers who aren't paying attention to what's going on, or who don't anticipate the moves they are going to need to make all drive me NUTS. I tend to yell and curse when driving. And if I'm a passenger with a person who drives like this, I have a hard time sitting still, or keeping my yap shut.


I have a horrible habit of making generalities when I talk. Which means I'm foregoing accuracy for the sake of making my point. If you call me on it though, I'll usually be the first to admit that the generality as just stated isn't exactly correct. Upon which I can elaborate and state my case in a more accurate fashion. Problem is though, making generalities like that (especially to another NT type) tends to piss folks off, which then serves to pull me out of my happy place :(


Can't stand cleaning up, especially other peoples' messes; try to maintain some semblance of organization/order (i.e., never leave underwear around, or food on counters in the kitchen) so that cleaning is kept to a minimum. Only vacuum, sweep, dust, etc, when filth is clearly visible.


Watch too much TV; have news, history channels, or science channels on full-time so there's background noise in house.


Use TV, computer games (especially MMORPG) and books for escapism; haveta inject excitement into life somehow, especially if my own RL is a bit flat.

[J.d.]

* I view my life from a literary perspective and often imagine myself as the narrator. I construct sentences in my head about things that are going on.

I thought I was the only one to do this.

I pretty much do everything stated already in this thread...I'm just going to add some of my own or the ones that I do alot.

* I spend alot of my time thinking up conversations between me and other people. I keep telling myself I will have these conversations with people but I never do :stupid:

*I procrastinate to the absolute last minute...even if I start something early I will not get it done before the deadline. If I procrastinate or don't it doesn't matter I get it done at the same time.

Can't think of anymore and too lazy to read over list again to pick out certain ones.

[tarkman1]

1) Explaining things - I'm sick of explaining things to people unless they've made an effort beforehand. Then there are the times when I reduce something to the simplest possible manner that I can and still receive the same blank look. Then, I'll just give up.

2) Starting anew instead of picking up where others stopped - I have an easier time of just starting from scratch most of the times that I have to continue on an existing body of work. Maybe I'm a bit arrogant because when I look at that body of work I usually find it to be a bunch of crap. Then again, I know I've always done exceptional work. On the flip side I've began to think that others don't see the things from the same perspective as me.

[Karl]

I have a tendency to eat things. Paper, plants, grass, rubber, plastic, etc. I also taste/eat substances to identify them. I never get sick anyway, so this isn't a problem.

Wait, maybe that's not an INTP habit. Maybe that's just weird.

*eats wrapping on soda bottle

[J.d.]

I have a tendency to eat things. Paper, plants, grass, rubber, plastic, etc. I also taste/eat substances to identify them. I never get sick anyway, so this isn't a problem.

Wait, maybe that's not an INTP habit. Maybe that's just weird.

*eats wrapping on soda bottle

I do this too, mainly with toothpicks, and those little rings on the necks of plastic bottles.

[Karl]

those little rings

I only chew those. And then I place them in the bottle before I throw it away.

[Thuberbaer]

I spend alot of my time thinking up conversations between me and other people. I keep telling myself I will have these conversations with people but I never do :stupid:


Oh yes...
Very detailed, and lengthy conversations which eventually tend to reach a point at which they become almost completely dependent on a specific set of reactions from the listener.

They are often "realistic" (based on observations of a particular character), yet somewhat idealized conversations... which are rarely ever actually enacted.

[Ellipsis]

Oh yes...
Very detailed, and lengthy conversations which eventually tend to reach a point at which they become almost completely dependent on a specific set of reactions from the listener.

They are often "realistic" (based on observations of a particular character), yet somewhat idealized conversations... which are rarely ever actually enacted.

Yup me as well....mine are mostly based on having the person I am talking to completely unmoving frozen to the spot and not being able to say a thing...since I can not usually predict behavior thus I make multiple streams of probability of response at key points in the conversation examine each briefly before choosing the most(or least depending on the situation) favorable/most probable response before going on down another stream...in the end I come up with some brief insight into myself and the world around me....yet these conversations never happen in reality...ah well....

[deusXmachina]

wOW sEraph! I share some of those habits too..... and I thought I was the only one! :banana:


:rofl: You just broke your habit...

I do this too, in forum and in real life. I'd read some message and then start replying to it, then after it's finished and I'm ready to click Submit, it'd change my mind and click Back... In real life, many times I start to talking about something and then change my mind and say something else from what I was going to say (and do it obviously many times), or say nevermind, leaving the other curious of what I was going to say....
That happened to me yesteday and the day before and a couple of weeks before, etc. I don't post as much as I'd like here. I get too self conscious with my posts I wonder whyyy...


Buying books in a manic fury that I don't even read

Holding arguments with myself

Talking with myself in a non-english language

Intentionally burning myself out so I can "crash" instead of spending hours trying to fall asleep

Force others to call me, but then neglect to answer the phone - sometimes with a smile on my face

Acting out mock scenerios in my head, sometimes with physical movement and speech

Isolating myself from others - one time I spent 2 months inside my apartment

Taking a certain happiness in neglecting mundane activitities like cleaning - flinging wrappers and garments aside with sheer joy

Taking a certain loathing to being forced to cleaning up my messes once they've built up - blaming the system or the world for it's mandatory inconviences

Spending ridiculous amounts of time in the shower

Reading the backs of books or just the first 2 chapters and convincing myself and others that i've read them.

^ and it doesn't matter anyways because I got the concept - and thats all that matters

Simultainously over-estimating my own skill and under-selling myself to others

Becoming victim to my own head games by overanalysing a situation

Destroying relationships with family members and friends


Okay the last 3 applies to me...and maybe the shower bit sometimes


1. That reminds me of when I lived with my parents. If I had got a coin every time my mother said "Do you always have to analyse EVERYTHING???" I would be filthy rich :D

2. I'm doing that a lot too. I keep debating stuff with myself all the time and it's much easier to focus on the subject if there's no other people around. Besides, if anyone saw me when I'm in a heated debate with myself, they would probably think I was hearing voices or something.

Yea I get that self debate thing as well with 2 max 3 voices in my head...I scare myself when it happens though because the words " oh my god are you sure you're not shizophrenic?" pops out in my head.


What?? S'not humiliating.

Yeah don't worry i do that on weekends (can't on weekdays coz I have school!)


Made it through my AP english lit course only reading greater than 75% of two of the books. I think the lowest content (not grammar based) grade I recieved was an 85, most of the papers and reading related essays I got As on. I absolutely abhor fact memorizing tests rather than concept-understanding tests. Essay questions are my friend, I'm always one of the few hoping more for concept related essay questions than fill in the blank or somesuch.


Cool! I just read A LOT of fanfiction during GCSE (whilst simultaneously trying to balance my coursework). i was predicted an "E" for english lang due to poor time management during mock exam, difficulty collecting thoughts (when trying to answer the questions) and difficulty in structuring/planning essay (the ignorant teacher i had thought i just "couldn't be bothered to finish answering the questions on the paper on time". So when the predicted GCSE results were issued my mom nearly collapsed when she saw the "E" and started to question my ability in English (which was a blow to the ego) and I started doubting myself as well. The result? Buried myself in fanfiction even more and in the end got a f**kin A!"!!! ....Fanfiction's the best thing you can do to improve vocab+grammar+escape from reality+one of the most productive things to do when procrastinating!


I compulsively research something, even if it's not going to be purchased or happen for a long time. This usually involves staying up too late...

I also cannot leave a skin imperfection alone - it MSUT be squeezed, picked, generally harassed until blood flows (or pus if it's of that nature)...

Ouch!!

[MacGuffin]

Recent one: supposed NTs that can't figure out the multi-quote button.

Oh wait, that's a peeve.

[TPol]

Hey, there's a multi-quote button over there. Cool!

[SilentlyHonest]

Recent one: supposed NTs that can't figure out the multi-quote button.

Oh wait, that's a peeve.


Hey, there's a multi-quote button over there. Cool!

Didn't you even post a thread about how to use these things?

[Zephyrus055]

Neglecting my physical needs and surroundings until it is absolutely imperative I respond. Just now I put in my laundry because I had no clothes for tomorrow, and I wore everything at least 3-5 times.
Having a lot of piles of clutter, and then organizing it when it becomes unbearable.
Putting the phone on vibrate so I don't hear it.
Repeatably checking to see if my car and apartment door is locked.
Thinking too much, and enacting manic scenarios in front of the mirror or my living room.
Hoping that the trick or treaters don't come to my apartment door.
Washing my hands every time I touch dirty stuff and before I eat, which amounts to around 20 times a day.
Looking at girls' butts.

[PiccoloNamek]

Hoping that the trick or treaters don't come to my apartment door.

I'm hoping tons of them come to my door. I have some homemade fall leaf camouflage that I'm going to use to scare the kids that walk up to my house. It is tan-colored overall and covered with dirt, moss and brown leaves, blending in perfectly with the environment. When the kids come up, I'm going to grab their legs or jump up and scare the crap out of them. Haha.

[Gish]

I don't recommend that : http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KDQGUe0tmfQ

But back on topic, my worst "habbit" is saying or thinking and then not acting on it.

[Birdsnest]

oh, I'm visualizing a kudzu vine costume on stilts coming out of the bushes in a plant dance like they do at Animal Kingdom. They have these plant costume dancers hiding in the shrubbery, and they move subtley, and then walk right into the crowds. Unless you know to look, you might not even see them. That would scare them.

[Ellipsis]

I am going to be cheap in my consume when the trick or treaters come I will dress up in my lab coat and safety goggles .....there instant consume....maybe add some bits of "blood" to both..

My habit is constantly figuring out new ways to be cheap and lazy....

[cinnamongirl]

I let my apartment get really cluttered/messy, but then about once a month, I suddenly decide to clean up and put everything away until it's spotless. It's like there's no halfway point in cleaning - all or nothing.

When I pack for trips, or even just leave the apt for an extended period, I tend to overpack and plan for every possible event. At any given time, my car contains an extra jacket, sweater, shoes, blanket, sleeping bag, book, camera, notebook and a snack. My purse always has every necessity, and you should see me pack for vacations!

I sometimes bite my lip when approaching large groups of people. I don't know why I do this, I don't even notice I do it, but one of my friends pointed it out. I hate that.

I'll walk outside in my socks to get the paper because I can't be bothered to put shoes on or take them off to go barefoot.

I don't think I have a lot of habits, though. I hate having a routine or keeping a schedule. I have never worn a watch, and probably never will.

[venerationOFrabbits]

I let my apartment get really cluttered/messy, but then about once a month, I suddenly decide to clean up and put everything away until it's spotless. It's like there's no halfway point in cleaning - all or nothing.

When I pack for trips, or even just leave the apt for an extended period, I tend to overpack and plan for every possible event. At any given time, my car contains an extra jacket, sweater, shoes, blanket, sleeping bag, book, camera, notebook and a snack. My purse always has every necessity, and you should see me pack for vacations!

I sometimes bite my lip when approaching large groups of people. I don't know why I do this, I don't even notice I do it, but one of my friends pointed it out. I hate that.

I'll walk outside in my socks to get the paper because I can't be bothered to put shoes on or take them off to go barefoot.

I don't think I have a lot of habits, though. I hate having a routine or keeping a schedule. I have never worn a watch, and probably never will.

I do the same except for the packing, I'm a minimalist when it comes to that.

As for the cleaning the only difference is it just has to be done before I am able to tackle a project I've been putting off for a long while.

I also do a funny thing with my lips when I'm confronted with groups. It's not biting them, more like retracting them into my mouth. Nervous energy.

[cinnamongirl]

I forgot to add how I hate doing work at a desk or table. I need to spread out, so I'll sit on the floor with my laptop with papers all around me. Even the couch or my bed is preferable to a desk. I've been like that for as long as I can remember; even as a child I hated doing homework at the table.

[Faust06]

I don't think these have been mentioned:

-I don't say please or thank you often times
-I stonewall people I don't like or care to talk to
-I can listen to music and do nothing else, but too much time doing this would bother me
-I like to review every single possibility before I engage in something with extensive choices... if it isn't possible, I get discouraged and don't bother
-I can't have sex with someone I only mildly like (and so I'm fucking deprived)
-In any issue, I'm always interested in both sides of the story, no matter how much I may dislike one of them
-If I'm reading a novel and don't feel it is up to par in the beggining, I probably wont finish it, considering it a waste of time
-I read game reviews all the time but usually don't play any of the games in question
-I value my time and yet I spend alot of it doing what some would consider a "waste of time".. thinking

[C.J.Woolf]

-I read game reviews all the time but usually don't play any of the games in question
I've done that sort of thing. I also read reviews of books/films/games/whatever after experiencing them for myself. Why? For validation? To compare notes? To help me think about it by seeing it from other points of view? I'm not sure which apply.

[Delilah]

I've done that sort of thing. I also read reviews of books/films/games/whatever after experiencing them for myself. Why? For validation? To compare notes? To help me think about it by seeing it from other points of view? I'm not sure which apply.

I do the same, for many subjects, many of which do not hold interest for me.
I do it to see it from other's perspectives. Human nature is fascinating, whether I agree with them or not.

[Xenolith]

pacing around the room while in deep thought

[PISTOLA]

lol i have alot of the same habbits as alot of you.

I am pretty messy until I commit myself to clean.

I like to spend alot of time by myself.

I talk to myself sometimes. lol I know wierd.

I like to read things that interest me, If its something I "have" to read then I wont.

Almost all rules are hard to follow unless "I know" it is something I shouldnt or should do.

I love music and analyzing it. (Incubus is great because their songs are so random and you can come up with so many different things for what their songs are about.)

I analyze almost everything before and after something happens.

Allways thinking about future. I am trying to be more in the "now" though which is kinda cool.

I dont argue about something unless it is something I consider worth arguing about. It has to be real worth arguing otherwise I dont talk about it and let the other person go.

When in tough situations where i feel the pressure I will almost everytime fall to it.

I dont watch alot of tv unless it is a sport or a fav show.

Spend alot of time on computer reading my fav news, message boards, or pdfs.

Allmost never on time for stuff homework, meeting with people, even work.

I cant stand waiting. nobody does really but some are more patient.

I dont talk on the phone unless they call me.

I dont like doing something unless it is my idea.

I can be selfish but not consious of when that happens.

I like to go on drives and just think about things to myself.

I enjoy my friends company but not for a long time. I need my time.

When motivated about something I only think of the great that can come from it but dont allways follow through.

I keep alot of things to myself. Dont ussually speak out.


I could go on and on.

[Karl]

I talk to myself sometimes. lol I know wierd.

I stopped when people started thinking I heard voices, despite my explanations to the contrary.

And I've heard some people say that you shouldn't worry about that kind of thing, but when someone suggests putting you on an antipsychotic I'd like to see you keep saying that.

Although I still do it when I'm alone, mostly just when I'm mad at myself these days. If I'm a little scared I do it too, and if effectively gets rid of the fear for whatever reason.

[Anxious]

I used to talk to myself under my breath every now and then. Now I just regulate it to when I'm by myself. It can put your thoughts in a different perspective when you hear them a loud and I find that I when I start second guessing and coming up with new theories of what I'm saying out loud, I immediately go back to thinking in my head because speech can't keep up.

[Karl]

speech can't keep up.

In that situation I'm inclined to just skip some of the words and mumble rapidly to myself. Now THAT bothers people. Of course I don't very often get excited enough that I totally block out everything else.

[Canuck]

I'm rarely ever "present", spending most of my time cogitating about one thing or another.

I don't live outside very often, rather way down deep inside my head, and have a tendencey to be utterly and completely oblivious to what's happening around me. That really pleases my wife when our wee monsters are getting out of hand.

Unfinished projects. There is no end to things I want to do, so I'm often doing several at once, and rarely if ever finish any of them. I derive little or no satisfaction from their completion because a) they're often completed under duress and economic/time constraints leading to what I feel is a sub-standard finished piece, and b) I have a hugely critical eye for my work and others - rarely does anything meet my standards.

[M.L.Fay]

I eat apples whole - except for the wooden thing (which really takes too much time to chew through)...the cyanide within the seeds adds an interesting flavour, and maybe I become immune against posion attacks, should I finally achieve m...oh wait. Maybe I do it because I am to lazy to go and throw it in the bin...

[Mr.G]

I have OCD tendencies like when im looking at TIVO or selecting a video game option, i have to highlight every option before i pick the one i want. Also when its a whole group of things like m&ms or skittles, i have to pick a specific one or it doesn't feel right eatting it

[Ptah]

Too many to list them all. The most recent: spending time here.

[calenwen]

-avoiding almost anyone and everyone
-typing on an imaginary keyboard in my head while listening to class lectures
-tetris,tetris, and more tetris (it clears my head, I swear!)
-narrating my life in the third person more often than I care to admit...
-I ALWAYS prepare for the worst-case scenario
-replaying conversations over in my head until I have come up with the most clever responses and can partially pardon my past idiocy
-I also indulge in self-loathing a lot... although I'm not sure if this is applicable or not.

...and procrastinating is so obvious I didn't even think to put it down at first.

[someyoungguy]

Almost all the same as everyone here, and to add..
I hate having different formats of music on my mp3 player so I just use .ogg format.
If I am playing a game, I try and do it perfectly otherwise if I mess up once I quit and start all over again.
And I also talk under my breath and I am trying to stop doing this around others because people always think I'm talking to them and I end up in annoying uncomfortable situations. :mad:

[Mr.G]

I also indulge in self-loathing a lot...

exact same here

[sinnamon]

True habits?


smoking
knuckle popping
I always have music going, & if there is none externally I still always have the internal sound track
I recently kicked a serious diet Mountain Dew habit because it was burning a hole in my stomach
I procrastinate until I have no other options but to do the task
I spend time thinking about worst case scenarios & how I would handle them (ex, going off the road into a body of water, the house catches fire, an armed intruder comes into the house)

[Mr.G]

True habits?


smoking
knuckle popping
I always have music going, & if there is none externally I still always have the internal sound track
I recently kicked a serious diet Mountain Dew habit because it was burning a hole in my stomach
I procrastinate until I have no other options but to do the task
I spend time thinking about worst case scenarios & how I would handle them (ex, going off the road into a body of water, the house catches fire, an armed intruder comes into the house)


knuckle popping and procrastination too. this is fuckin scary...

[Cougar]

i hate the idea of having a set time each day that you go to sleep, i would like to delay it and have an irregular sleep pattern, but my parents wont be so happy i guess. I also respond like that because im generally uninterested in the small talk thats going on around me. i loathe small talk.

I never shower or change clothes on weekends unless im going somewhere(which is quite rare)

lol you have it easy thats all i can say


True habits?


smoking
knuckle popping
I always have music going, & if there is none externally I still always have the internal sound track
I recently kicked a serious diet Mountain Dew habit because it was burning a hole in my stomach
I procrastinate until I have no other options but to do the task
I spend time thinking about worst case scenarios & how I would handle them (ex, going off the road into a body of water, the house catches fire, an armed intruder comes into the house)


Apart from the smoking and mountain Dew all true for me

[bandmatt]

Obsessing over posts, internal soundtrack, talking aloud in private, 'grammar Nazi'...check, check, check, check. And I'll add one of my own...

If I hear a song on the radio that has been edited down, by even a few seconds, I get ticked off. Also, sometimes music sounds slightly higher in pitch if played off of a cassette tape, and that gets on my nerves just as badly. (Yep, I still have cassette tapes...I don't throw stuff out either...)

[Lethal Sage]

Rarely do my showers last shorter than thirty minutes. Rarely do my baths take less than an hour. I haven't washed my pillow for at least six months. I have procrastinated learning programming since at least 1999. I fell asleep naked on spread eagle while my parents were at church only to have my porn confiscated. I don't know what a sleeping pattern is. I have more meaningful conversations with myself than with other people. My inner voice sounds different than my exterior one.

[andif]

- Saying something, then realising I feel the exact opposite


Gets me in so much trouble. Often the reason I decide to just not say anything.



- I analyse my posts too much. You wouldn't believe the time it can take me sometimes to write something so simple

I can take hours to find the correct way to write three sentences.

Also the talking to myself thing. I tone it down in public, but at home, like others here, I hold full conversations complete with facial expressions and responses. I would quite often rather talk to myself than anyone else. I get made fun of by my roommates who occasionally overhear.

I'm a mess, I'm a chameleon, I procrastinate, don't have a set sleeping schedule, etc., etc., etc.

[Zion]

* I work in about 8-10 different places regularly (2 different Starbucks, 2 different couches, 2 different easy chairs, Panera, a Mexican Restaurant etc.) Never at a work desk or office.
* I HATE saying good night when I'm ready to go to bed (If I had any energy left I wouldn't be going to bed.)
* The bathroom is more a retreat from people than for any other purpose (and MUST be locked and hopefully far away from others).
* I'm really affected by lighting in a room

[lbloom]

Somebody fix the spelling the title please, it's driving me nuts!

(That'll do)

[HilbertSpace]

Somebody fix the spelling the title please, it's driving me nuts!

(That'll do)

The title's the only thing I like about this thread.

[cjs55]

I keep reading it as INTP hobbits...and then I think about putting Frodo down.

"His leg...it's been infected. It'll have to go."

"Dammit. Who'll take the One Ring into Mordor now?"

[Delilah]

I keep reading it as INTP hobbits...and then I think about putting Frodo down.

"His leg...it's been infected. It'll have to go."

"Dammit. Who'll take the One Ring into Mordor now?"

Seriously! LOL! Me too!

Damn hobbits.

[Zion]

Seriously! LOL! Me too!

Damn hobbits.

Yah, I've read it that way about 5 times and each time experience a fleeting burst of excitement that someone wants to talk Tolkien before I descend into the reality that this is just my personal obsession after all.

[Mr.G]

I recently realized that while Im talking to someone I sound EXACTLY like the person Im talking to. Like a sort of Mystique type thing going on. Weird...

[WhichDan]

This is so absolutely horribly late, but I couldn't resist commenting. I find myself needing to make asides constantly in parenthesis. In fact, I can't remember a day goes by that I don't find myself wanting to nest parenthesis so that I may have asides to my asides. While this makes plenty of sense to me, I really have to fight myself and re-write things or leave out detail I would love to add so that I don't have to create a complete mess out of things. :/

I've started doing this far too much over the past year or two.. I personally find that it's easier (especially in informal informational writing) to just nest a bunch of information in main sentences, than it is to write sentences for the information separately. In fact, I did the aside above out of habit without even realizing it until I was halfway done.

I'm also sitting here considering rewriting my post while waiting for myself to burn out and crash so I can fall asleep.

[lowtech redneck]

I've started doing this far too much over the past year or two.. I personally find that it's easier (especially in informal informational writing) to just nest a bunch of information in main sentences, than it is to write sentences for the information separately. In fact, I did the aside above out of habit without even realizing it until I was halfway done.

I'm also sitting here considering rewriting my post while waiting for myself to burn out and crash so I can fall asleep.

Yeah, same here.

I have an even larger problem (besides excessive use of semi-colons, which I just now remembered); I tend to think in terms of concepts and multiple, simultaneously interacting variables rather than words or sequential affects. I'm constantly stuck trying to figure out how to put my thoughts in coherent, sequential sentences that other people can understand. It makes writing papers a royal pain in my ass. I don't know if this is characteristic of INTPs or else some bizarre learning disability/mental deficiency.

[Birdsnest]

I'm am often late. I do not like obligations, including obligations to pay bills, save money, go to meetings, kow tow to people, be at work at a certain time, or stay within some guideline or budget. Apparently I have a forum obsession, with this forum. I need and like to watch TV at night. I like to stay aware of weather and surroundings, and I even go outside to feel the weather and try to note the behaviors of animals at different times. Cat always sits on roof when cold weather is coming, birds fly down looking for food, I have a habit of observing surroundings, weather, etc.

[rhinosaur]

Every time I skim over this thread's title, I see "INTP Hobbits..."

Put yours down:
"BAD HOBBIT! BAD SMELLY HOBBIT! YOU ARE THE DUMB!"

[LowEnd]

writing posts and then rethinking them as being obvious or irrelevant which results in me abandoning the idea. This is the 3rd time I've written this, but I'm persevering this time..

..must.. ...post....

....before its too late...

[Sojourner]

writing posts and then rethinking them as being obvious or irrelevant which results in me abandoning the idea. This is the 3rd time I've written this, but I'm persevering this time..

..must.. ...post....

....before its too late...
Same here.


Every time I skim over this thread's title, I see "INTP Hobbits..."

Put yours down:
"BAD HOBBIT! BAD SMELLY HOBBIT! YOU ARE THE DUMB!"
Are any of the hobbits INTP? :)

[xiacole]

.

[Delilah]

Whats a habbit?

A close relation to the hobbit, slightly taller, hairier......

[andif]

For some bizarre reason, whenever I see 'habbit', my brain jumps to the outfit nuns wear. It's spelled 'habit' though, as in, "I have a bad habit."

[airjaw]

I probably have the typical INTP habits: staying up late, being late to class, work, and appointments, procrastinating, spending copious amounts of time online reading anything and everything that fascinates us, opening up 50 firefox windows per browser session because when we see something interesting we have to click on it and follow that train of thought... at least for a while until we see something else interesting.

I'm always trying to gather more information. I'm an information hunter-gatherer. Even when I talk to friends, it's not so much that I want to see how they are doing, but that I want to know. I want more information about their lives.
Left alone, I would probably spend 14 hours a day reading stuff online.

I have a habit of going to the gym as well, altho is slowly being killed off by injuries and the 9-5 lifestyle.

I smoke cigarettes when I am drinking.

I write down all my ideas, and my plans for their implementation. I never follow through - i Only come up with more ideas.

[MikeD277]

i'm just gonna add a few (which i'm sure have already been stated but pfft, i'm gonna put mine here anyway :P)

-having a single random thought in the middle of working (programming) and almost unconciously opening up wikipedia and proceeding to follow a link-trail for at least 30 minutes until i realize i've just "wasted" 30 minutes.

-my reluctance to put certain puncuation inside quotes because if english were a programming language it would make more sense outside the quotes.

-writing (or thinking about) writing elaborate posts on intpc only to realize a) the idea is way too big to take the time during my work day to complete or b) i somehow read the OP incorrectly and my response would not make sense or c) someone else already said exactly what i wanted to say so i just don't post or d) upon putting my knowledge on the subject into a post i realize i would need to do more research to make the argument complete w/o which others would be able to poke holes in it.

-being overly optimistic about deadlines. this is a big one for me. after doing the same type of work more or less for the past 8-10 years i still can't admit to myself just how long certain things will take realistically. tho, on this one i can feel myself getting a little better... a little :P

-wanting to be completely free of dependency on anything. drugs, soda, people, material objects. one ironic example is my reliance on the internet. i can't help but have this underlying fear of losing my job, being evicted and having to go w/o internet... and that fear is something i hate having. basically just being self sufficient has great appeal to me. of course i gladly welcome significant others, they fall into a separate category.

-sleep, like others said, i *love* going to sleep only after becoming exhausted. i hate sleeping just because i have to wake up in 7 hours when i'm not really tired. when i try to close my eyes and sleep when i'm wide awake i actually get dizzy... weird.

anyways, i think i should get back to work now :)

[Zion]

Feeling a strong (yet baseless) sense of accomplishment when I've completed fully charging my MacBook and Iphone. As if I just completed a couple hours of work and now it's time to take a break and do something I enjoy.

[songbird36]

Feeling a strong (yet baseless) sense of accomplishment when I've completed fully charging my MacBook and Iphone. As if I just completed a couple hours of work and now it's time to take a break and do something I enjoy.

Does this translate to a tendency to reward yourself frequently for short bursts of "hard work"? :)

[oblivion]

Wow this is really weird, I can relate to almost EVERYTHING mentioned on this topic!!!


I think I'll go and check the INTJ's forum and see whether they are the same.


Another thing i could mention on top of everything else is that it makes me happy (for lack of a better word) when I see things that other people write that I can relate to, it never happens to me in the real world (well, rarely anyway)
:gm: :gm: :joft:

[bijosn]

surfing the web, asking random questions on Y!A, reading random books, trying to study, daydreaming, loosing touch with reality, observing\analysing human nature

[Freeza]

A few things I do

- excessive thinking about any kind of topic; just anything.
- sleeping; go to bed whenever I feel like, then hating getting up in the morning, mostly on school days.
- analyzing people, sometimes I like predicting their MBTI type (for people I know at least a little bit, otherwise it's hard ;). I'm usually right, too.
- procrastinating on schoolwork until the night before it's due, if I'm lucky. Otherwise I skate by by doing it the period before or even in class while the teacher is walking around collecting.
- not paying attention in class at all. I think this isn't that influenced by my INTP nature, but rather by my inability to pay attention.
- getting distracted, it's ridiculous. I have a lot of stories. Then again, probably influenced my lack of ability to pay attention/focus whatsoever.
- I plan a lot. Writing down ideas in a notebook, etc. But never actually doing them, or I get distracted or get another idea in the middle of one idea and start a new one or run around and do something else.
- Not very competitive. I also like watching people play games rather than playing them myself.

[foodeater]

I start something, get halfway to 3/4 of the way through, then lose interest completely.
I start a problem, and if I can't figure it out I work on it until I do. I noticed that I do this on tests, too, which isn't such a good thing, because I lose track of time.
I don't like going to sleep and I don't like getting out of bed, and I procrastinate.
I'm always detached.
I sing along to every song (badly) I hear unless other people are around, and if they are friends I still sing. I try to emulate the singer as perfectly as I can.
I play a videogame through once until the story is complete and put it away forever, not worrying about collectibles or upgrades to get or whatever.
I'd have opinions on the big things (war, etc.), but when people ask me to make a decision on small things I don't care. Then they tell me to choose one and I get pissed. Why should I care?
I try to predict what will happen in different situations.
When I talk to girls over the internet I can be witty and funny, but when I talk to them in person I... can't.
I can "see" through other peoples' eyes sometimes. I try to imagine what things literally look like fron their persepective. For example, I'll be sitting in class and wonder what the teacher sees, so I'll try to "see" exactly what he sees. It's tough trying to get all of the minute details, like someone falling asleep when you can't see them too well from your perspective, etc.
Spending a long time in a shower if I have time.
Overananlyzing.
Forgetting to read things while giving a speech, even if they are important, because they are slightly indented compared to the rest of my notes.

And all of the things that I didn't say that are in this:


* I'm big on "chameleon syndrome," and I was shocked when one INTP profile pointed it out (I was actually a little afraid I was straying from my type).

* I "zone out"...a lot. In class, if the lecture isn't incredibly interesting (and often even when it is), I'll go running off with a thought. For instance, if the teacher says "The most common forms of execution are electrocution, lethal injection, and the gas chamber," I'll latch onto the "lethal injection" part, and my thought process will go something like: Lethal injection? I wonder what that feels like. What if they can't find a good vein on a drug user? Maybe you can develop a natural resistance to the chemical they inject you with if you take tiny, tiny doses over several decades. I wonder if they'd let you live if you survived. I wonder if they'd execute me if I cried non-stop and made a bogus sympathy plea to the jury... etc.

* I make up stories in my head and spend classtime continuing them internally, dialogue and everything. Sometimes I start to identify too much with my "characters" and accidently make a movement or mutter something as if I were the character. I imagine this looks pretty weird to the people sitting around me.

* I view my life from a literary perspective and often imagine myself as the narrator. I construct sentences in my head about things that are going on.

* Every single possibility for any given situation is considered. If I look surprised at something that happened, I'm really only pretending.

* When listening to a song, there's a music video going on in my head for it. A made-up one.

* Hugs are awkward. Smiles are awkward. Why do I need to outwardly show that I'm happy?

* I pretty much don't have an opinion on anything. I've finally admitted it to myself and gone to trying to figure out why other people take their stances.

* It takes the average person seven minutes to fall asleep. It takes the average INTP about an hour and a half.

* Sometimes I'll ask people questions I already know the answer to. I don't know why I do this.

* I communicate much better through writing, e-mail, and AIM than verbally. For my age, I have a pretty expansive vocabulary, but when I'm face-to-face with someone, nerves reduce my vocabulary to about 50 words and a lot of "uh's."

* After a conversation is over, I replay it in my head and come up with things I should have said. I also predict how a conversation is going to go before it happens, but when it finally comes, I have no fucking clue what to say. Or, I'll stick to what I was going to originally say, and it will seem bizarre and out of place after what the other party said (example: I'm leaving the take-out restaurant with my food and am predicting the greeter will say "Have a nice day!" Instead, she says "Enjoy your meal!" and I fire back "You too!")

[Society's Stray]

I start something, get halfway to 3/4 of the way through, then lose interest completely.
I start a problem, and if I can't figure it out I work on it until I do. I noticed that I do this on tests, too, which isn't such a good thing, because I lose track of time.
I don't like going to sleep and I don't like getting out of bed, and I procrastinate.
I'm always detached.
I sing along to every song (badly) I hear unless other people are around, and if they are friends I still sing. I try to emulate the singer as perfectly as I can.
I play a videogame through once until the story is complete and put it away forever, not worrying about collectibles or upgrades to get or whatever.
I'd have opinions on the big things (war, etc.), but when people ask me to make a decision on small things I don't care. Then they tell me to choose one and I get pissed. Why should I care?
I try to predict what will happen in different situations.
When I talk to girls over the internet I can be witty and funny, but when I talk to them in person I... can't.
I can "see" through other peoples' eyes sometimes. I try to imagine what things literally look like fron their persepective. For example, I'll be sitting in class and wonder what the teacher sees, so I'll try to "see" exactly what he sees. It's tough trying to get all of the minute details, like someone falling asleep when you can't see them too well from your perspective, etc.
Spending a long time in a shower if I have time.
Overananlyzing.
Forgetting to read things while giving a speech, even if they are important, because they are slightly indented compared to the rest of my notes.

And all of the things that I didn't say that are in this:


A few things I do

- excessive thinking about any kind of topic; just anything.
- sleeping; go to bed whenever I feel like, then hating getting up in the morning, mostly on school days.
- analyzing people, sometimes I like predicting their MBTI type (for people I know at least a little bit, otherwise it's hard ;). I'm usually right, too.
- procrastinating on schoolwork until the night before it's due, if I'm lucky. Otherwise I skate by by doing it the period before or even in class while the teacher is walking around collecting.
- not paying attention in class at all. I think this isn't that influenced by my INTP nature, but rather by my inability to pay attention.
- getting distracted, it's ridiculous. I have a lot of stories. Then again, probably influenced my lack of ability to pay attention/focus whatsoever.
- I plan a lot. Writing down ideas in a notebook, etc. But never actually doing them, or I get distracted or get another idea in the middle of one idea and start a new one or run around and do something else.
- Not very competitive. I also like watching people play games rather than playing them myself.


procrastination, surfing the web, asking random questions on Y!A, reading random books, trying to study, daydreaming, loosing touch with reality, observing\analysing human nature


* I'm big on "chameleon syndrome," and I was shocked when one INTP profile pointed it out (I was actually a little afraid I was straying from my type).

* I "zone out"...a lot. In class, if the lecture isn't incredibly interesting (and often even when it is), I'll go running off with a thought. For instance, if the teacher says "The most common forms of execution are electrocution, lethal injection, and the gas chamber," I'll latch onto the "lethal injection" part, and my thought process will go something like: Lethal injection? I wonder what that feels like. What if they can't find a good vein on a drug user? Maybe you can develop a natural resistance to the chemical they inject you with if you take tiny, tiny doses over several decades. I wonder if they'd let you live if you survived. I wonder if they'd execute me if I cried non-stop and made a bogus sympathy plea to the jury... etc.

* I make up stories in my head and spend classtime continuing them internally, dialogue and everything. Sometimes I start to identify too much with my "characters" and accidently make a movement or mutter something as if I were the character. I imagine this looks pretty weird to the people sitting around me.

* I view my life from a literary perspective and often imagine myself as the narrator. I construct sentences in my head about things that are going on.

* Every single possibility for any given situation is considered. If I look surprised at something that happened, I'm really only pretending.

* When listening to a song, there's a music video going on in my head for it. A made-up one.

* Hugs are awkward. Smiles are awkward. Why do I need to outwardly show that I'm happy?

* I pretty much don't have an opinion on anything. I've finally admitted it to myself and gone to trying to figure out why other people take their stances.

* It takes the average person seven minutes to fall asleep. It takes the average INTP about an hour and a half.

* Sometimes I'll ask people questions I already know the answer to. I don't know why I do this.

* I communicate much better through writing, e-mail, and AIM than verbally. For my age, I have a pretty expansive vocabulary, but when I'm face-to-face with someone, nerves reduce my vocabulary to about 50 words and a lot of "uh's."

* After a conversation is over, I replay it in my head and come up with things I should have said. I also predict how a conversation is going to go before it happens, but when it finally comes, I have no fucking clue what to say. Or, I'll stick to what I was going to originally say, and it will seem bizarre and out of place after what the other party said (example: I'm leaving the take-out restaurant with my food and am predicting the greeter will say "Have a nice day!" Instead, she says "Enjoy your meal!" and I fire back "You too!")


:yes: :yes: :yes: :yes:

Seraph's may actually me my clone, psychological clone

[Wolfmaster]

I talk to myself when people are around sometimes.

[TooFarGone]

-I love to lay down and just think.
-I talk to myself.
-I procrastinate
-I don't sleep well
-I don't like talking on the phone much
-I start projects but never finish them
-I love bathing, sometimes, I'll take 3 showers a day just because I can
-I count the number of letters in differerent words

[_idiosyncracies]

I collect quotes.

And ..

I Google random information by pairing 2 seemingly unrelated terms. Usually the former is a person (that I crush/worship) and the latter is a topic (death penalty, feminism) to see what he/she thinks of the topic.

Then I love or hate them depending on their views. And then I imagine giving them a speech to enlighten them - imaginary light on me, microphone check testing 1, 2, 3 and then off I go into a monologue, "if one looks at death penalty from a more humane point of view ...", "the crux of feminism is ..."

I also fantasize about killing and loving. Two things I am incapable of because I'm an INTP ;)