What the hell is a XXXX?

[sallysweatpants]

Seriously how can anyone be crossed on every letter? What the hell is that? Are you an amoeba blob? Or are you the most balanced people in the world? I demand answers. And by demand I mean..meh I'll probably forget I wrote this and not even check back on the answers I demand.

[Ashi, K?]

Once you add a type, you can't remove it, and XXXX is the only non-type that is accepted.


...or you are 100% borderline.

[Meticulum]

Seriously how can anyone be crossed on every letter? What the hell is that? I demand answers.

Here's the textbook example of an XXXX:


http://ejumpcut.org/archive/jc48.2006/SchaivoPreston/prestonimagefolder/terri_eyes6x.jpg


This video clip may help clarify things, too:


http://ejumpcut.org/archive/jc48.2006/SchaivoPreston/Terri-momfolder/6-Schiavo%201.ram (http://ejumpcut.org/archive/jc48.2006/SchaivoPreston/Terri-momfolder/6-Schiavo%201.ram)


God bless Terri Schiavo.


Hope this helps.


John

[RottenApple]

When we turn out the lights, we are all XXXX.

[Meticulum]

When we turn out the lights, we are all XXXX.

I know you're trying to be profound here, but that just doesn't make any sense.


John

[Lateralus]

Once you add a type, you can't remove it, and XXXX is the only non-type that is accepted.
Huh?

[demagogic_schizoid]

Seriously how can anyone be crossed on every letter? What the hell is that? Are you an amoeba blob? Or are you the most balanced people in the world? I demand answers.

:highfive:


And by demand I mean..meh I'll probably forget I wrote this and not even check back on the answers I demand.

:stupid:

[ajblaise]

It's hardcore porn. The extra X just means it's illegal to produce or even watch in most industrial nations.

[xNTP]

It's for true INTPs, who detest all boundaries and expectations.

Edit: And someone you should never play with. * evil cackle *

[ataronchronon]

if you say it really fast it sounds like "ex sex sex sex"

[Ghost-Girl]

I think it would be completely possible to be balanced on all four, it would just mean that that person would be equally willing to use one trait as another and use whatever the situation called for.

[outmywindow]

I think it would be completely possible to be balanced on all four, it would just mean that that person would be equally willing to use one trait as another and use whatever the situation called for.

But wouldn't they be really conflicted in determining just what that situation called for? When faced with the same situation, an NP and an SJ might think two very different plans of (in)action should be used; how would an XXXX make the determination of which was the 'right' one since they'd have no preference?

[Lateralus]

But wouldn't they be really conflicted in determining just what that situation called for? When faced with the same situation, an NP and an SJ might think two very different plans of (in)action should be used; how would an XXXX make the determination of which was the 'right' one since they'd have no preference?
I think it would depend on who they are dealing with, moreso than what they are dealing with.

[outmywindow]

I think it would depend on who they are dealing with, moreso than what they are dealing with.

Okay, I'll give you that, but not every decision involves another individual or requires the one making the decision to interact with anything other than himself and his environment/circumstance. Then what?

[Ghost-Girl]

Well, lets say that given a situation where either response could be effective, I suppose even an XXXX would have a minute preference one way or another.

[Mad Ogre]

You're discounting the persons real life experience, that will give them the ability to make decisions.

[Lateralus]

Okay, I'll give you that, but not every decision involves another individual or requires the one making the decision to interact with anything other than himself and his environment/circumstance. Then what?
There are situations where even INFPs use their T, right?

[sorabji_66]

Seriously how can anyone be crossed on every letter? What the hell is that? Are you an amoeba blob? Or are you the most balanced people in the world? I demand answers. And by demand I mean..meh I'll probably forget I wrote this and not even check back on the answers I demand.


tried the quiz with an immature jerk one time, who insisted he had no preference for any of the 100 or so pairs of questions.

i knew him well and could have answered with certainty for every one of them.

buddy, you are an XXXX.

[Ashi, K?]

Once you add a type, you can't remove it, and XXXX is the only non-type that is accepted.


...or you are 100% borderline.

There seems to be some confusion about this.

I meant once you add a type to your profile on this forum, you cannot simply remove it.

[Lateralus]

There seems to be some confusion about this.

I meant once you add a type to your profile on this forum, you cannot simply remove it.
And that's why I said "huh?". I was able to change mine.

[Ashi, K?]

Sure, change, but you cannot remove it. By which I mean make it blank.

[outmywindow]

There are situations where even INFPs use their T, right?

Well sure, but with an XXXX I would think that when faced with scenarios which allow for more than one type-based response (if that makes any sense), they'd be torn trying to decide which of the 16 types they want/should be this time. If someone with a more solid type steps outside their normal boundaries, they at least have a baseline from which to begin. XXXXs would have nothing or everything, depending on how you look at it, which seems very overwhelming to me. Unless XXXXs come equipped with the ability to impeccably choose the perfect type for each situation, I think there'd be quite a lot of indecision and/or random reaction depending on which type they happen to be that day/hour/minute.

[Lateralus]

Well sure, but with an XXXX I would think that when faced with scenarios which allow for more than one type-based response (if that makes any sense), they'd be torn trying to decide which of the 16 types they want/should be this time. If someone with a more solid type steps outside their normal boundaries, they at least have a baseline from which to begin. XXXXs would have nothing or everything, depending on how you look at it, which seems very overwhelming to me. Unless XXXXs come equipped with the ability to impeccably choose the perfect type for each situation, I think there'd be quite a lot of indecision and/or random reaction depending on which type they happen to be that day/hour/minute.
I don't see someone who is XXXX actively choosing a type when formulating a response. And even if a choice is made, subconsiously, does it need to be perfect? There are so many environmental factors that can play a part, I don't see there being a cut-and-dry response to your question.

[sallysweatpants]

It's for true INTPs, who detest all boundaries and expectations.

Edit: And someone you should never play with. * evil cackle *

WHAT THE HELL ARE YOU?!?! I DONT UNDERSTAND.

[Ferrus]

All cats are grey in the dark.

[outmywindow]

All cats are grey in the dark.

Couldn't they just as easily be hot florescent pink with bright blue and green stripes and a dayglo-yellow tail? :yes:

[xNTP]

WHAT THE HELL ARE YOU?!?! I DONT UNDERSTAND.

I'm your worst nightmare, biyatch.

I'm also someone who finds 4 letters too restrictive, non-descriptive, and completely failing to capture the depth, variety, and vastness of personality.

[apple]

Seriously how can anyone be crossed on every letter? What the hell is that? Are you an amoeba blob? Or are you the most balanced people in the world? I demand answers. And by demand I mean..meh I'll probably forget I wrote this and not even check back on the answers I demand.

Prolly an insecure woman who can't accept her own personality, so must tell everyone she's XXXX, then write about what a hard-core gansta chick she is.

[xNTP]

Prolly an insecure woman who can't accept her own personality, so must tell everyone she's XXXX, then write about what a hard-core gansta chick she is.

/me loads hard-core gangsta gun and puts on high heels and lipstick.

[sallysweatpants]

I'm your worst nightmare, biyatch.

I'm also someone who finds 4 letters too restrictive, non-descriptive, and completely failing to capture the depth, variety, and vastness of personality.

It sounds like second rate art school tools who are just caught up with how original and dynamic they are and refuse to be put into any categories. Too bad no one cares. So basically XXXX are people who refuse to actually take the test properly because they are douche-y and caught up in their own delusional idea that there is no one like them and they are completely unique in every way?

[xNTP]

Too bad no one cares.

Well, apparently someone does. :whistle:

[In...TP]

I agree with sallysweatypants.

[Lateralus]

It sounds like second rate art school tools who are just caught up with how original and dynamic they are and refuse to be put into any categories. Too bad no one cares. So basically XXXX are people who refuse to actually take the test properly because they are douche-y and caught up in their own delusional idea that there is no one like them and they are completely unique in every way?
Did Edahn ever say he's the only XXXX? I don't recall seeing that. For all we know, he thinks everyone is XXXX and the INTPs are delusional, thinking they're so special, being what, 2% of the population? :P You're sounding very SJ to me. Maybe you should edit your profile...

[xNTP]

Did you edit your response after I commented on it? It still sucks regardless.


So basically XXXX are people who refuse to actually take the test properly because they are douche-y and caught up in their own delusional idea that there is no one like them and they are completely unique in every way?

First off, MBTI happens to have shitty test-retest reliability. The questions are generally hard to answer because the options they make you choose between aren't exclusive of one another (e.g., "which do you prefer" type questions). So, even if I did want to take the test "properly," there's no guarantee that I would consistent results.

Second, what are you talking about? I said that I would rather not be boxed into 4 letters because personality is much more than 4 letters. I choose, for myself, not to be subjected to all the preconceptions, stereotypes, and expectations that people like you would love to make about me. There's also the issue of my own self-image being overrun by my own expectations of what an INTP would do. By rejecting labels altogether, I'm able to be more authentic and free. Can you see where I'm coming from?

What seems more douchey is people who are so desperate for others to conform to their system of categorization that they can't accept that one outlier would have all but selfish and pompous motives to exclude himself. Ironic that someone who identifies herself as INTP, supposedly open-minded and free-thinking, would be so offended and upset by someone who leaves the herd, and resort to petty accusation. But of course I try to stay away from those types of generalizations. :P

[sallysweatpants]

Can you see where I'm coming from?



No I can't. If you are so against the test then why are you on this forum at all? I'm very open minded, but that doesn't mean I can't smell bullshit.

[Ferrus]

No I can't. If you are so against the test then why are you on this forum at all?
It is not a zero-sum analysis, you can accept the test as a broad indication without being beholden to it in its totality.

[NightCrawler]

I'm your worst nightmare, biyatch.

I'm also someone who finds 4 letters too restrictive, non-descriptive, and completely failing to capture the depth, variety, and vastness of personality.

Here is how I view the theory:

[see attachment]

Now, the portrait type is not a complete personality by far, but there is high variability within those who are typed INTP. Of course, it is hard to come up with a rigid personality structure, but that is mainly because so many people are so different -- hence why they theorize the core; it makes it applicable to know what 2% of the population acts like, not necessarily how .002% operates.

[Meticulum]

No I can't. If you are so against the test then why are you on this forum at all? I'm very open minded, but that doesn't mean I can't smell bullshit.

Sally,

I know this is a bit off-topic, but are you perchance related to PollyPrissyPants? It's a long shot, but the names just seem related.


John

[xNTP]

No I can't. If you are so against the test then why are you on this forum at all? I'm very open minded, but that doesn't mean I can't smell bullshit.

Another strawman. I didn't say I was AGAINST the test. I said that it has it's limits, and while it can function as a good starting point of discovering how one thinks in certain situations, labeling myself with 4 letters is too much and goes beyond the usefulness of the "test." (Indicator is a better word, really).

[sallysweatpants]

Sally,

I know this is a bit off-topic, but are you perchance related to PollyPrissyPants? It's a long shot, but the names just seem related.


John

Do not affiliate me with my arch nemesis.

[Meticulum]

Do not affiliate me with my arch nemesis.


<quietly backs out of room> :unsure:



John

[apple]

/me loads hard-core gangsta gun and puts on high heels and lipstick.

High heels are for women who get out in the world. Why don't you and boobylab start a "misinformation gang" on the internet to weed out all the women you find threatening instead? ;)

[xNTP]

High heels are for women who get out in the world. Why don't you and boobylab start a "misinformation gang" on the internet to weed out all the women you find threatening instead? ;)

Better idea: why don't you shut the fuck up and stop boring the shit out me with your less-than-clever non sequiturs and miserable attempts at humor? ;) Great!

[euterpenc]

If you're going to say XXXX then type becomes erroneous and empty of meaning. At most I think XXXX could mean an uncertainty about your type, but your actual type cannot be XXXX. This is not a type, it is a means to escape labelling.

[Nighthawk]

We typed one individual at work as XXXX. He even tested very close to the all the boundaries with the online and Keirsey tests. From closer observation however, we believe that he was just a very adapatable ISTP. He could become almost anything he wanted to be.

[apple]

Better idea: why don't you shut the fuck up and stop boring the shit out me with your less-than-clever non sequiturs and miserable attempts at humor? ;) Great!

I can imagine that your type of rude, brainless, confrontational fishing for attention style of argument would only appeal to the bitter, angry women set.

But do keep posting more of your miserable projections. You're revealing more of your true colors everyday. ;)

[xNTP]

I can imagine that your type of rude, brainless, confrontational fishing for attention style of argument would only appeal to the bitter, angry women set.

But do keep posting more of your miserable projections. You're revealing more of your true colors everyday. ;)

*Yawn* The INTP style of argumentation doesn't suit you. In fact, I'd bet any style of argumentation doesn't suit you. My guess is you prefer friendly, respectable "exchanges" and therefore launch your crippled attacks from a distance, like you did in this thread. Alas, you inevitably get caught and sucked into these types of posturing contests but really can't hold your own. Remember, you're in T-territory now, and precision is preferred to loose conjecture. If you're going to make your observations, that's fine. I won't bug you (much). But if you're going to take a shot at me, be ready to back it up with some evidence, not just fuzzy speculation. And now I bid you good day, sir!

Edit: Don't take this stuff too personally, though. It's mostly in jest. Mostly. :devil:

[apple]

*Yawn* The INTP style of argumentation doesn't suit you. In fact, I'd bet any style of argumentation doesn't suit you. My guess is you prefer friendly, respectable "exchanges" and therefore launch your crippled attacks from a distance, like you did in this thread. Alas, you inevitably get caught and sucked into these types of posturing contests but really can't hold your own. Remember, you're in T-territory now, and precision is preferred to loose conjecture. If you're going to make your observations, that's fine. I won't bug you (much). But if you're going to take a shot at me, be ready to back it up with some evidence, not just fuzzy speculation. And now I bid you good day, sir!

Edit: Don't take this stuff too personally, though. It's mostly in jest. Mostly. :devil:

Maybe you should take your own advice. I love tearing apart hypocrites.

[xNTP]

I love tearing apart hypocrites.

"Riiiiiiiiiiiiight."

http://writingcompany.blogs.com/this_isnt_writing_its_typ/images/dr_evil.jpg

Let me know when I'm supposed to take you seriously, cuz so far, you're a fucking joke.

[apple]

"Riiiiiiiiiiiiight."

http://writingcompany.blogs.com/this_isnt_writing_its_typ/images/dr_evil.jpg

Let me know when I'm supposed to take you seriously, cuz so far, you're a fucking joke.

Oh my, we're reverting back to argument ad hominems because we're too brainless to think up anything clever.

[Lateralus]

Oh my, we're reverting back to argument ad hominems because we're too brainless to think up anything clever.
Apple, you really need to review your own posts. Your first post in this thread was this...

Prolly an insecure woman who can't accept her own personality, so must tell everyone she's XXXX, then write about what a hard-core gansta chick she is.
That's a personal attack, if there ever was one. In fact, you have not made a single post in this thread that has any relevance. Isn't that the definition of a troll? At first, Edahn kept his cool. He blew off your personal attacks and refused to reciprocate. But you wouldn't let up. You kept prodding. So he finally attacks back, and you reprimand him?

It's obvious you have a personal vendetta against him. You should quit before you bury yourself.

If you want an example of a critical post that doesn't resort to personal attacks, study this one. You might learn something.

[apple]

Apple, you really need to review your own posts. Your first post in this thread was this...

That's a personal attack, if there ever was one. In fact, you have not made a single post in this thread that has any relevance. Isn't that the definition of a troll? At first, Edahn kept his cool. He blew off your personal attacks and refused to reciprocate. But you wouldn't let up. You kept prodding. So he finally attacks back, and you reprimand him?

It's obvious you have a personal vendetta against him. You should quit before you bury yourself.

If you want an example of a critical post that doesn't resort to personal attacks, study this one. You might learn something.

To your question lateralus, I was simply answering sallysweatpants question:


Seriously how can anyone be crossed on every letter? What the hell is that? Are you an amoeba blob? Or are you the most balanced people in the world? I demand answers. And by demand I mean..meh I'll probably forget I wrote this and not even check back on the answers I demand.

Maybe you should actually read the thread before attacking me personally.

[xNTP]

crapple,

Do you really expect us to believe that your first post in the thread, which came 15 minutes after mine, had no relationship to mine, given the fact that topic was about XXXX's, that I am the only XXXX to post in the this thread, and that this isn't the first time you've tried to assail me with you dreadful excuse for insight? Even you can't be so stupid as to believe that.

And if you are, what do you make of this next post of yours directed at me?


/me loads hard-core gangsta gun and puts on high heels and lipstick.


High heels are for women who get out in the world. Why don't you and boobylab start a "misinformation gang" on the internet to weed out all the women you find threatening instead? ;)

It's not just supposed to be witty; you were trying to push my buttons. I don't mind that, but don't go pretending like you have no idea what anyone's talking about.

[SilverFalcon]

In my opinion, an XXXX would be impossible. It would be someone who cannot make a decision as to his/her type, as no one can be completely balanced in everything. People naturally favor (to a certain extent) the tried and true. If someone were to solve a problem using their T (logic), and it worked, then they would use that method again, as it has a history of success. But if, at one point, logic failed to provide the perfect solution, one might conjure up different solutions afterwards, then use them when a similar problem erupts, as logic would then have a history of failure. It would be with these new solutions that a variable would occour. Most solutions are a combination of logic, emotion, and a lot of other factors. There is no such thing as a purely T solution, or a purely F solution. In solutions, there may be more T than F or vice versa, which is where a favoring of one type over another appears. Eventually, a combination of the tried and true, the favored, the context, and sometimes even the disfavored, make up how a person solves problems and comes to conclusions. The MBTI when applied to problem-solving determines which types one relies on the most, and there cannot be a tie there. There exists other types which supplement the primary types, but in the end the primary types are what are seen on a MBTI
type. Some people confuse the supplementary types for the primary types, and from this wrong types or indecision results. Indecision often indicates the primary type of P, which would make someone who thought that they were an XXXX really an XXXP, with the other three primary types undeterminable simply by declaring one's self an XXXX, but determinable with more information.

[apple]

And if you are, what do you make of this next post of yours directed at me?

As you see, you wrote to me and I gave you a minute of my time to answer. If you can't take the heat, then get out.

[/QUOTE]

[xNTP]

[post]

What does that have to do with crapple being a moron? Stop derailing this thread please.

[Lateralus]

To your question lateralus, I was simply answering sallysweatpants question:

Maybe you should actually read the thread before attacking me personally.
Bull. The thread is about Edahn. He's the only person on this board with "XXXX" as his listed type. Your post followed Edahn's post, directly. On top of all of that, you have argued (not discussed, that implies the use of logic) with Edahn before. There is a pattern of behavior with you, Apple. It is well documented. All we need to do is search your post history.

I have not attacked you personally. I have questioned your behavior, which is much different than attacking your intelligence, self-esteem, etc. Certainly you're able to distinguish between the two.

[apple]

In my opinion, an XXXX would be impossible. It would be someone who cannot make a decision as to his/her type, as no one can be completely balanced in everything. People naturally favor (to a certain extent) the tried and true. If someone were to solve a problem using their T (logic), and it worked, then they would use that method again, as it has a history of success. But if, at one point, logic failed to provide the perfect solution, one might conjure up different solutions afterwards, then use them when a similar problem erupts, as logic would then have a history of failure. It would be with these new solutions that a variable would occour. Most solutions are a combination of logic, emotion, and a lot of other factors. There is no such thing as a purely T solution, or a purely F solution. In solutions, there may be more T than F or vice versa, which is where a favoring of one type over another appears. Eventually, a combination of the tried and true, the favored, the context, and sometimes even the disfavored, make up how a person solves problems and comes to conclusions. The MBTI when applied to problem-solving determines which types one relies on the most, and there cannot be a tie there. There exists other types which supplement the primary types, but in the end the primary types are what are seen on a MBTI
type. Some people confuse the supplementary types for the primary types, and from this wrong types or indecision results. Indecision often indicates the primary type of P, which would make someone who thought that they were an XXXX really an XXXP, with the other three primary types undeterminable simply by declaring one's self an XXXX, but determinable with more information.

Very true. I also think indecision could also be a prevalent Fi sensibility in which one generally is ruled by one's irrational emotions and cannot make any quick decisions on her own. Perhaps I'll consult Hermonine for a witty comeback. :lol:

[xNTP]

As you see, you wrote to me and I gave you a minute of my time to answer. If you can't take the heat, then get out.



Once again, you're completely lost. I explicitly mentioned that I don't mind your feeble attempts at argument or insult (thinking, correctly, that you would get confused yet again). My comment was in response to your pretending like your initial post was unrelated to me, and not to the "heat" you dish. And once again, we see your severely lacking argumentation skills rearing their ugly head in this thread. You suck.

[apple]

Once again, you're completely lost. I explicitly mentioned that I don't mind your feeble attempts at argument or insult (thinking, correctly, that you would get confused yet again). My comment was in response to your pretending like your initial post was unrelated to me, and not to the "heat" you dish. And once again, we see your severely lacking argumentation skills rearing their ugly head in this thread. You suck.

*holds up mirror*

[xNTP]

*holds up mirror*

*punches through mirror, hitting crapple in the face*

I'm done here. If you think *holds up mirror* is going to pass for substance on this site, you're going to be sorely disappointed. Next time try following what's going on and maybe we'll get somewhere. Shattered mirrors and shattered egos only excite me so much.

[apple]

*punches through mirror, hitting crapple in the face*

I'm done here. If you think *holds up mirror* is going to pass for substance on this site, you're going to be sorely disappointed. Next time try following what's going on and maybe we'll get somewhere. Shattered mirrors and shattered egos only excite me so much.

Resorting to violence now, are we? Step 2 of Argument for Witless People.

[Rajah]

AHEM.

[xNTP]

*hides bloody fist behind back*

*slowly nudges crapple's body to the side with foot*

:whistle:

[C.J.Woolf]

We typed one individual at work as XXXX. He even tested very close to the all the boundaries with the online and Keirsey tests. From closer observation however, we believe that he was just a very adapatable ISTP. He could become almost anything he wanted to be.
I've long thought that a person who developed his/her non-preferred functions will tend to look like XXXX. It's like they have more tools, so they're more likely to have the right tool for the job. Then again, I might be full of it.



P.S. I second Rajah's AHEM.

[Rajah]

*hides bloody fist behind back*

*slowly nudges crapple's body to the side with foot*

:whistle:What a strange and unrelated duo of events.

[xNTP]

:rofl:

[apple]

What a strange and unrelated duo of events.

Yes, I sense deep sexual repression of some sort coupled with overly aggressive tendencies to attempt to "cover up" an imbalanced personality.

[Lateralus]

Yes, I sense deep sexual repression of some sort coupled with overly aggressive tendencies to attempt to "cover up" an imbalanced personality.

This reminds me of something I read in another thread...


Idealist

Play the game of Masquerade when they feel they have not been or
cannot continue to be authentic, benevolent, and empathetic. Variants
include:

-- Mind Reader: claim that they know what others are really thinking,
feeling and/or wanting. Project their own thoughts/desires on to
others, often attributing negative motives, ie., that others are out
to get them. May even contend that others are reading their minds.
Take everything as personal when it has nothing to do with them.

[Lateralus]

I've long thought that a person who developed his/her non-preferred functions will tend to look like XXXX. It's like they have more tools, so they're more likely to have the right tool for the job.
I agree with this.

[apple]

This reminds me of something I read in another thread...

Wow, you're right. It describes you and Edahn perfectly.

[Rajah]

AHEEEEEEEEM.

[sallysweatpants]

I feel like I'm reading a fight between rabid fan girls on a clay aiken message board.

[Madrigal]

*holds up mirror*


*punches through mirror, hitting crapple in the face*

I'm done here. If you think *holds up mirror* is going to pass for substance on this site, you're going to be sorely disappointed. Next time try following what's going on and maybe we'll get somewhere. Shattered mirrors and shattered egos only excite me so much.


Resorting to violence now, are we? Step 2 of Argument for Witless People.


*hides bloody fist behind back*

*slowly nudges crapple's body to the side with foot*

:whistle:

Pssst... guys... it isn't real...

[EL84]

Regarding the surface idea again - after reading about MBTI, one would be forgiven for thinking the test results for any of the pairs might be a bimodal distribution.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bimodal_distribution

But according to wikipedia, with its amazing wiki-reliability, the test results are just a boring old vanilla standard distribution. I believe Edahn has made this point before, but it seems to have vanished in the noise and I think it's an important point.

For the purposes of my argument, I shall call someone who tests within 0.5 standard deviations of the mean X. That's 38&#37; of all testes.

0.38^4=0.02

So perhaps 2% of the population is XXXX, unless I've totally cocked up the maths (probably). From a world of five billion, that's a lot of XXXX.

You could define a stricter boundary for X and come up with a different result, but the point remains, there are people out there who are sitting near the mean on all four poles.



I'd never ignore the crap anecodote section of my post, so I know a guy who tested XSXP. It seemed like a reasonable result. None of the four type descriptors that could have come from forcing the X either way fitted him very well. In general I think it's unreasonable to try and force a model onto a real life example that doesn't conform. If you saw him one day, you might force the result one way, another day, another result.

[xNTP]

There's more.

1. It's hard to really quantify which function people use "more." Lets take T and F, for example. The first hurdle is in figuring out what exactly it is we're looking for. "Decisions-making" is abstract and broad, and I'd imagine that most people make decisions without really being aware of what criteria they use. Second, thinking and feeling are usually mixed into any decision you make, so deciding between one or the other is impossible. Third, we emphasize different functions in different environments, and trying to tally which we use more is tricky, because people's schedules change, and because you may not be making as many decisions in each environment, which will also skew your calculation. I think there are people who use some functions more frequently than others, but many, if not most, people have some mix of both T and F (or S and N) where trying to find your preferred function can be very difficult. (As a side, in my opinion it's completely irrelevant. If you're a T at work and an F in relationships, call yourself an INTP at work and an INFP in relationships. There's no reason you can't be both, although I know people will disagree with me here.)

2. As most people tend to fall near the median within a set of functions, assigning a letter to them is really pointless. Consider someone who's 51&#37; I, N, T, and P. Are they really "INTP?" Well, if you define "INTP" as showing ANY preference towards said functions, yes, but that's just a label. You really won't be able to make any concrete predictions about this person, as they may as well be an ESFJ (especially given the problems involved in deciding preferences). So even if we do conclude that the XXXX must have some leaning and can't be perfectly balanced, taking them out of the XXXX category is really meaningless.

In my opinion, people's functions change according to their environments, both internal (good moods, bad moods) and external (friend, class, work, bars). While we could assign them 4 letters based on how they personally see themselves, it would be more informative to assign them separate functions based on each environment, and then see how those functions interact to comprise temperament in each situation.

[Lateralus]

Edahn bringing down the hammer! :thumbup:

[sallysweatpants]

So perhaps 2&#37; of the population is XXXX, unless I've totally cocked up the maths (probably). From a world of five billion, that's a lot of XXXX.


Actually it's more like 6.6 billion. But it reminds me that I always hated the phrase 'you are one in a million'