Fuck You Smokers

[inspectorgadget]

http://thehill.com/business--lobby/both-sides-look-for-political-gains-in-battle-over-schip-2007-07-17.html

Only part you should pay attention to is....

The panel?s draft bill would pay for the expansion mainly through a 61-cent increase in the tax on tobacco products, which would raise the federal levy to $1 per pack of cigarettes.

Of course... they are talking about a program that will provide health coverage for every child in America, which is good... but, they are going to pay for it mostly by taking advantage of the fact that 25% of Americans are addicted to that ever so beautiful substance, tobaccy.

But, now really, why the fuck are cigarette smokers forced to take MOST of the burden of supplying health care to children? And do they really want to associate buying a pack of cigarettes with saving children anyway?

So if this goes through then telling someone they should quit smoking, or being anti-cigarettes, will be like being against saving childrens lives.

I think they should just tax toilet paper at a smaller percentage than they would tax cigarettes. We ALL need toilet paper, and no one is ever going to tell anyone to stop using it... and we will all save the children.

[garak]

"Gambling is a tax on people that can't do math."

I can't help but think of that quote when I think of smokers.

[booyalab]

So if this goes through then telling someone they should quit smoking, or being anti-cigarettes, will be like being against saving childrens lives.


:rolleyes: not if you have a logical bone in your body

[inspectorgadget]

"Gambling is a tax on people that can't do math."

I can't help but think of that quote when I think of smokers.

I don't think it relates.

[inspectorgadget]

:rolleyes: not if you have a logical bone in your body

Not going to accuse you of thinking I was being serious there... you're not that dense, are yah?

Anyway, the real question I'm trying to get at with this post is what the hell is with the attitude people have towards smokers? It's so prejudiced... no problem with taxing the cigarette smoker, Fuck Him. He doesn't even know what's good for him. He's "irrational" etc.

[Lateralus]

Tyranny of the (moral?) majority.

[Ferrus]

Tyranny of the (moral?) majority.
Perhaps; but that would rely up there being a moral position perfectly justified outside the totality of society's whims.

[Lateralus]

Perhaps; but that would rely up there being a moral position perfectly justified outside the totality of society's whims.
I used "moral" in jest.

[garak]

Not going to accuse you of thinking I was being serious there... you're not that dense, are yah?

Anyway, the real question I'm trying to get at with this post is what the hell is with the attitude people have towards smokers? It's so prejudiced... no problem with taxing the cigarette smoker, Fuck Him. He doesn't even know what's good for him. He's "irrational" etc.

Since the government is involved in health care, smoking is a liability to every tax payer. So considering that, yes, fuck him. He doesn't even know what's good for him (and thus, us, who are paying for him).

[Ferrus]

I used "moral" in jest.
Ultimately it makes no difference, tyranny is defined by its immorality.

[Lateralus]

Ultimately it makes no difference, tyranny is defined by its immorality.
I guess you haven't heard of the term "moral majority"?

[earwax]

It's not like tobacco is a necessity. It serves no useful purpose at all, and has even been shown to be harmful. But addicts have proven that they will pay no matter how much it costs. I say tax the hell out of it.

If you don't like it, quit smoking.

[Ferrus]

Yes but they arrogate the title of 'objective morality', when in essence it is a subjective judgement that they wish to promulgate.

[LongSilence]

It's not like tobacco is a necessity. It serves no useful purpose at all, and has even been shown to be harmful. But addicts have proven that they will pay no matter how much it costs. I say tax the hell out of it.

If you don't like it, quit smoking.

They could always tax the hell out of porn instead / as well. Or alcohol. Or...

[earwax]

They could always tax the hell out of porn instead / as well. Or alcohol. Or...
I have no problems with that. I don't look at porn, and I can always brew my own beer.

[Thor]

Not going to accuse you of thinking I was being serious there... you're not that dense, are yah?

Anyway, the real question I'm trying to get at with this post is what the hell is with the attitude people have towards smokers? It's so prejudiced... no problem with taxing the cigarette smoker, Fuck Him. He doesn't even know what's good for him. He's "irrational" etc.

The thing I think is ridiculous is that we tax the hell out of it, tell people to quit, but subsidize tobacco farming.

[ben from below]

They could always tax the hell out of porn instead

That might be difficult....


The thing I think is ridiculous is that we tax the hell out of it, tell people to quit, but subsidize tobacco farming.

Does anyone know how much revenue the states get from cigarette taxes vs. how much the feds pay out in tobacco form subsidies? Would things even out if both were eliminated? I guess it isn't politically expedient to cut off some of the biggest campaign contributors from the dole.

[anul]

I think it's terrible that the governments go to tax increase is tobacco. I don't even smoke anymore but I always feel bad that smokers always get kicked around.



I think they should just tax toilet paper at a smaller percentage than they would tax cigarettes. We ALL need toilet paper, and no one is ever going to tell anyone to stop using it... and we will all save the children.

I would just simply install a bidet. And I would also invest in bidet companys, because bidet sales would be on the rise.

Check and mate, greedy government!

[Thor]

That might be difficult....



Does anyone know how much revenue the states get from cigarette taxes vs. how much the feds pay out in tobacco form subsidies? Would things even out if both were eliminated? I guess it isn't politically expedient to cut off some of the biggest campaign contributors from the dole.

The stats I saw varied drastically from year to year, but the total subsidies for the period from 2000-2005 was something on the order of $500 million, so it's nothing compared to the $13 billion in tax revenue just for 2005.

[Jacque]

I think they should just tax toilet paper at a smaller percentage than they would tax cigarettes. We ALL need toilet paper, and no one is ever going to tell anyone to stop using it... and we will all save the children.

Um mm . . . I know a few pandas who would still have a habitat if it wasn't for Communist China telling people to be more western and use toilet paper. Personally, I use the Three Seashells (http://www.i-mockery.com/shorts/three-seashells/). Not only is it sanitary and ethical, it is also patriotic because one day we'll be using Chinese toilet paper and whenever there is an embargo on toilet paper exports to the U.S., there'll be shortages, rationing, and long lines to the crapper. I say we reduce our dependence on foreign ass-wipes like China and flush 100% American.

(I know, I know. Sorry, this post should have been a courtesy delete.)

[ben from below]

I think it's terrible that the governments go to tax increase is tobacco. I don't even smoke anymore but I always feel bad that smokers always get kicked around.

I agree; it's pretty sick that the governments are exploiting people's addictions nearly as much as the tobacco companies are. In some places I think the taxes are as much as 50% of the cost of a pack, probably places from from the Carolinas.



I would just simply install a bidet. And I would also invest in bidet companys, because bidet sales would be on the rise.

Check and mate, greedy government!

another typical unintended consequence of government intervention :)

[ben from below]

...I use the Three Seashells (http://www.i-mockery.com/shorts/three-seashells/)...

Doesn't that hurt?

[Jacque]

Doesn't that hurt?

You mean you don't know how to use the three seashells?


John Spartan (http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0106697/): [whispering to Lenina] Look, I don't know if you guys know it, but you're... you're out of toilet paper.
Alfredo Garcia: Did you say toilet paper?
Lenina Huxley: Oh. They used handfuls of wadded paper back in the 20th...
[Lenina, Alfredo, and Erwin all laugh]
John Spartan: I'm happy that you're happy, but the place where you're supposed to have the toilet paper, you've got this little shelf with three seashells on it.
Erwin: He doesn't know how to use the three seashells!
[Erwin continues to laugh, then calms down]
Erwin: I can see how that could be confusing.

[omnirook]

OK. Only a fool who insists on being a fool places ideals in his stragetic arsensal: in other words, yes, there are decent people in politics, but relying on them to be at the root of any move of the government is rather like expecting a baldness cure to work: wishful thinking that costs a great deal of money! No. One must assume that nobody in power gives a damn about the public. Then one can see things for how they are, even if decent people do seem to have gotten their way for a change. The whole move w/villifying smoking and smokers was meant only to create an easy source of revenue for the government to tap w/o mercy. There is no end of equally harmful habits, etc to which people are either addicted or exposed, but tobacco was hand-picked for several reasons: it is bad for the health, the number of people who smoke has steadily gone down since 1965 and the first public warnings about smoking, and those people who have stopped smoking are the people who have the largest incomes and are the most likely to vote. You could not ask for a better "sin" to villify and marginalize and have handy as a go-to for "revenue enhancement." Understand: vice laws are always, always passed and enforced not out of a desire to increase morality but only ever out of a desire to increase the government's "right" to police and control the public - and to set up black markets that the authorities can either crush to make themselves look good or else collect bribes from to look the other way. America has never lacked for a steady supply of dimwitted, meanspirited, self-righteous emotional cripples who gladly play right into the trap by calling for, by demanding, that the government regulate the behavior of other people. The bottom-feeders of humanity's collective experience and wisdom, the religious hyprocrites who make up the so-called "Religious Right" are a dream come true: a pack of dribbling morons who will gladly cast the whole world into a dungeon just to get the authorities to pay lip service to their blind, childish fantasies and hallucinations. It's utter paradise for a politician who has only to show up to a prayer breakfast and pretend to pray to a God in which he does not believe to have thousands of hardcore fanatics willing to cough up cash and turn out to vote, no matter what he really does once in office. And therein lies all the reason that one needs to see right through the tobacco farce that has played out since the late 1990's. Hello - nobody but nobody in power gives a damn whether you live or die or how much you suffer along the way. All that mattered was creating a gigantic slush fund that could be tapped w/o anybody having the least right to object. If you think that any of the tobacco taxes will go to anything other than pork-barrell projects, think again - take a look at what was done w/the money from legalizing gambling! Gambling was sold to the public because the public were told that the revenue from the gambling would go to education, oh, the children! The dear, darling children - fuck em! Let them age in the jails that we call schools, then, when they are too old for that, we'll leave them no future w/o a hitch in the army. God bless America!

[hoodrich84]

http://thehill.com/business--lobby/both-sides-look-for-political-gains-in-battle-over-schip-2007-07-17.html

Only part you should pay attention to is....

The panel?s draft bill would pay for the expansion mainly through a 61-cent increase in the tax on tobacco products, which would raise the federal levy to $1 per pack of cigarettes.


It seems like they're attempting to stop people from smoking and pretty soon they will start taxing Condom users.:joft:

wow..what a great way to prevent teens from having sex. They will do it anyway (without protection= risk of HIV). I think the government are sometimes blinded from the important issues.

I'm not at all surprised from this action because the government are known to have done a lot of fucked up things.:chook:

[dubbeltop]

It seems like they're attempting to stop people from smoking and pretty soon they will start taxing Condom users.:joft:

wow..what a great way to prevent teens from having sex. They will do it anyway (without protection= risk of HIV). I think the government are sometimes blinded from the important issues.

I'm not at all surprised from this action because the government are known to have done a lot of fucked up things.:chook:

Condoms on cigarettes ,what a great marketing niche !!!!

[earwax]

The moral of the story...

Addictions are expensive. And there are many people who will gladly take advantage of your addiction to get a piece of your paycheck.

Don't like it? Kick your addiction.

[prplchknz]

I don't smoke so I don't care if they get taxed or not. I do care about all these new anti-smoking laws and think they're a mistake, and will cause more problems then solve in the long run.

[belladona]

Sin taxes: Most people find it hard to argue against taxing something seen as a sin (such as smoking or gambling) so governments feel there is little voter backlash about increasing these taxes. Compared to (for instance) increasing petrol (gas) taxes, they're probably right.

It would be better if the government taxed fairly instead of taxing according to vote-maximizing strategies. What do you really think the chance of that happening is?

[euterpenc]

It's not like tobacco is a necessity. It serves no useful purpose at all, and has even been shown to be harmful. But addicts have proven that they will pay no matter how much it costs. I say tax the hell out of it.

If you don't like it, quit smoking.

We should tax people who watch television channels we don't like cause they serve no useful purpose at all, these channels. Don't like it? Don't watch the channel?

Civil liberties? If it's a liberty I don't like, it should most certainly be taxed, that way, they'll tax me less for doing what I like.

Cigarette prices are outrageous. They shouldn't be taxed so heavily and should be treated like most other products in such regard. Some people think cigarettes are bad, they feel they have the right and priviledge to hinder and bother smokers with their habit. If you enjoy smoking, more power to you, just understand some don't like secondhand smoke, so be mindful of others. But living in a city or soomething, so much pollution is hurting you anyway, to bitch about cigarette smoke is just being whiny.

Maybe, with the money I save from not being taxed as much on cigarettes, I can get addiction treatment. But nah, it'd be best for everyone if I just kept paying excessive amounts of money at my expense for the sake of everyone else, all the while, they are not thankful for my contribution but still demonize me for my personal behavior, which doesn't necessarily affect anyone but me.

[Ellipsis]

The point is that in Canada that the Smokers are being paid for by the goverment (and thus by Tax payers) when they enter a hospital...this is about my TAX money and how it is spent...I say raise taxes on smokes! Make them save up for thier own health expenses...same goes with all risk takers....you speed....you get injured...you pay!

Frankly if goverment didn't take care of health care people might think twcie but since they do I say raise taxes....as for alchol....samething...you drive drunk and go to prison...I got to pay for you...If people didn't do supid things that waste public moeny I would be more supporting but face it....


Testimony to the U.S. Senate estimated that the costs of smoking to the American economy are approximately $130 billion dollars a year. Yet federal, state, and municipal excise taxes on cigarettes for the fiscal year ending June 30, 1996 were only about $13 billion [The Tax Burden of Tobacco, Vol. 27, 1996] -- only about one tenth the cost!

So smokers are stealing from you....not the other way around....

Lets say there are 301,000,000 Citzens in the US....lets say it costs less...lets say 100 billion dollars. lets say 20 billion are earned from taxes....so 80 billion dollars split the cost over the population. That equals about $265 dollars every year!(from every one...so a family of 4 loses more then 1000 dollars just for smokers). So in lets say the last 20 years you have been alive they have taken at least 5000 dollars from you!( Of course there are variables like population growth over the last few years)

[Jacque]

Addictions are expensive. [...] Don't like it? Kick your addiction.

Hi, my name Jacque and I'm addicted to civil liberties. People say it causes me to say unpleasant things. So when I try to talk to them they turn away like I'm blowing smoke in their face. The worst part of my addiction isn't that it comes out of my mouth. The worst part is that it comes from me, not from government or from most other people. I'm addicted to myself and that's the worst kind of addiction in world because you only have yourself to blame.

. . . . If you don't care to involve the "Nanny State" in your dispute with smokers or anti-smokers, then solve it within the context of interpersonal conflict resolution. If someone blows smoke in your face, just blow it right back.

And for that I offer: Smoker-Be-Gone.
http://i10.tinypic.com/4oqr02u.jpg

[euterpenc]

Bill Hicks on Smoking

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z9O1Cv7wudU

[earwax]

Cigarette prices are outrageous. They shouldn't be taxed so heavily and should be treated like most other products in such regard. Some people think cigarettes are bad, they feel they have the right and priviledge to hinder and bother smokers with their habit. If you enjoy smoking, more power to you, just understand some don't like secondhand smoke, so be mindful of others. But living in a city or soomething, so much pollution is hurting you anyway, to bitch about cigarette smoke is just being whiny.
Ha ha.... "enjoy"... yeah, the same way a herion addict "enjoys" his next fix.

Face it, a little molecule is kicking your ass. :rofl:

[euterpenc]

Ha ha.... "enjoy"... yeah, the same way a herion addict "enjoys" his next fix.

Face it, a little molecule is kicking your ass. :rofl:

Then I guess I'm one of those who takes pleasure in pain cause it sure feels good to get my ass kicked. Plus, it's an excuse to get breaks at work.

Real men can take getting their asses kicked, but it would seem that those such as yourself fear ass kickings, and thus are not real men.

Though, if I'm smoking and enjoying it, and you're not smoking and standing next to me, then you're the one getting owned, cause you're too puss to enjoy the luxuries of our society.

*lights cigarette*

[earwax]

Then I guess I'm one of those who takes pleasure in pain cause it sure feels good to get my ass kicked. Plus, it's an excuse to get breaks at work.

Real men can take getting their asses kicked, but it would seem that those such as yourself fear ass kickings, and thus are not real men.

Though, if I'm smoking and enjoying it, and you're not smoking and standing next to me, then you're the one getting owned, cause you're too puss to enjoy the luxuries of our society.

*lights cigarette*
Hope your emphysema doesn't raise my group insurance rates.

BTW - I used to smoke and I've already lost many friends to cancer. Enjoy your cigarette.

[euterpenc]

Hope your emphysema doesn't raise my group insurance rates.

Real men don't need insurance.

Edit: Emphysema is for weakbodied ninnies. My supercharged immune system will turn any illness into spore sacs that I can shoot out to infect potential predators.

[Jacque]

Even at $6 a pack, the price of cigarettes isn't really high enough to effect true addicts . . . just like our gas prices. If our government ever decided to legalize marijuana just to tax it to death, that effort would initially fail. Rather than pay exorbitant sums for a pack of reefers, individuals are capable of producing their own with relatively cheap investments. There is no "marijuana industry" like there is a tobacco industry, a consequence of the drug wars. Only when smokers start growing their own tobacco will prices reach "therapeutic levels".

[Ellipsis]

Real men don't need insurance.

Edit: Emphysema is for weakbodied ninnies. My supercharged immune system will turn any illness into spore sacs that I can shoot out to infect potential predators.

Real men get hurt most often and thus need insurence more then the rest of us...

Real man=Increased risk=more need for insurance=more you pay to the void for the same coverage....

I highly encourage you and other smokers and tabacoo companies to donate to cancer research, and pay for my salary and possibly get rid of the whole "C" bomb for the media and others to drop....

So please....donate today....I need your money(please offer a few scholarships while you are at it...)

[Mr.Miagi]

I guess they should tax people who are overweight too then. They put a strain on healthcare, just like smokers.

[euterpenc]

Can we tax assholes cause they are more likely to get into fights and perhaps beaten up?

[booyalab]

I guess they should tax people who are overweight too then. They put a strain on healthcare, just like smokers.

things like that affect individual private insurance rates, so the closest thing in federalized healthcare would be tax incentives or disincentives.

[earwax]

Can we tax assholes cause they are more likely to get into fights and perhaps beaten up?
Don't you think you're paying enough in taxes as it is?

[euterpenc]

Don't you think you're paying enough in taxes as it is?

:sadbanana:

[earwax]

:sadbanana:
Sorry, I couldn't resist... :grin:

Peace.

[garak]

I guess they should tax people who are overweight too then. They put a strain on healthcare, just like smokers.

When in reality we subsidize it. The cheapest food is the most unhealthy, over-processed, calorie-laden grain/chemical fluff available. And not because it is TRULY cheaper to make, but because of the government making things like corn artificially cheap.

[inspectorgadget]

It's not like tobacco is a necessity. It serves no useful purpose at all, and has even been shown to be harmful. But addicts have proven that they will pay no matter how much it costs. I say tax the hell out of it.

If you don't like it, quit smoking.

Yes, smoking is bad, we all know - it's all very clear to us, everyone gets it. Causes cancer and all that good stuff.

And yet people continue to do it, obviously for a reason - they enjoy it, or at least they must have enjoyed it 'before' they became addicted otherwise - why smoke enough to get addicted? Personally, I used to smoke at least a pack a week - and then stopped to kick the addiction because it cost too much money to smoke and well... health reasons... but anyway, I still smoke from time to time because I enjoy it. It's even a very social tool - really, more than anything, it's a social tool. You can meet cool people just by being a smoker... smokers, you understand...



I have no problems with that. I don't look at porn, and I can always brew my own beer.

You're joking here...


The thing I think is ridiculous is that we tax the hell out of it, tell people to quit, but subsidize tobacco farming.

Plus we let them use the shoddy practices that cause the cancer in the first place.... can you say... apatite fertilizer (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Apatite)?


OK. Only a fool who insists on being a fool places ideals in his stragetic arsensal: in other words, yes, there are decent people in politics, but relying on them to be at the root of any move of the government is rather like expecting a baldness cure to work: wishful thinking that costs a great deal of money! No. One must assume that nobody in power gives a damn about the public. Then one can see things for how they are, even if decent people do seem to have gotten their way for a change. The whole move w/villifying smoking and smokers was meant only to create an easy source of revenue for the government to tap w/o mercy. There is no end of equally harmful habits, etc to which people are either addicted or exposed, but tobacco was hand-picked for several reasons: it is bad for the health, the number of people who smoke has steadily gone down since 1965 and the first public warnings about smoking, and those people who have stopped smoking are the people who have the largest incomes and are the most likely to vote. You could not ask for a better "sin" to villify and marginalize and have handy as a go-to for "revenue enhancement." Understand: vice laws are always, always passed and enforced not out of a desire to increase morality but only ever out of a desire to increase the government's "right" to police and control the public - and to set up black markets that the authorities can either crush to make themselves look good or else collect bribes from to look the other way. America has never lacked for a steady supply of dimwitted, meanspirited, self-righteous emotional cripples who gladly play right into the trap by calling for, by demanding, that the government regulate the behavior of other people. The bottom-feeders of humanity's collective experience and wisdom, the religious hyprocrites who make up the so-called "Religious Right" are a dream come true: a pack of dribbling morons who will gladly cast the whole world into a dungeon just to get the authorities to pay lip service to their blind, childish fantasies and hallucinations. It's utter paradise for a politician who has only to show up to a prayer breakfast and pretend to pray to a God in which he does not believe to have thousands of hardcore fanatics willing to cough up cash and turn out to vote, no matter what he really does once in office. And therein lies all the reason that one needs to see right through the tobacco farce that has played out since the late 1990's. Hello - nobody but nobody in power gives a damn whether you live or die or how much you suffer along the way. All that mattered was creating a gigantic slush fund that could be tapped w/o anybody having the least right to object. If you think that any of the tobacco taxes will go to anything other than pork-barrell projects, think again - take a look at what was done w/the money from legalizing gambling! Gambling was sold to the public because the public were told that the revenue from the gambling would go to education, oh, the children! The dear, darling children - fuck em! Let them age in the jails that we call schools, then, when they are too old for that, we'll leave them no future w/o a hitch in the army. God bless America!

If we were at some random shindig with a bunch of people and you had just gotten up and ranted that nonsense... I think I might have been that guy that stood up and started clapping slowly...


The moral of the story...

Addictions are expensive. And there are many people who will gladly take advantage of your addiction to get a piece of your paycheck.

Don't like it? Kick your addiction.

Umm, or kick those people in the face?


Ha ha.... "enjoy"... yeah, the same way a herion addict "enjoys" his next fix.

Face it, a little molecule is kicking your ass. :rofl:

Yes, in the SAME EXACT WAY. No joke.


I guess they should tax people who are overweight too then. They put a strain on healthcare, just like smokers.

Point well made. We just need to transform our society so that it's 'wellness' based rather than 'sickness' based.

I'd like to know if cancer rates are more prevalent in the states among smokers compared to europe, because I'm not sure that they use Apatite Fertilizer regularly over there...

Anyway, we need a cure for cancer.... that's what the correct take on all this is. Let's fucking cure cancer, not drop kick smokers.

[Mr.Miagi]

Why do I smoke?

1. I like it. It makes me happy.
2. I can talk about smoking with other smokers (social tool)
3. It relieves stress, (especially the kind of stress I get when hearing the price of cigarettes has sky-rocketed)
4. Smoking soothes the mind, as well as the body (according to peter stuyvesant - trusted source.)
5. Nowadays, I also smoke more as an act of societal rebellion.

[earwax]

Yes, smoking is bad, we all know - it's all very clear to us, everyone gets it. Causes cancer and all that good stuff.

And yet people continue to do it, obviously for a reason - they enjoy it, or at least they must have enjoyed it 'before' they became addicted otherwise - why smoke enough to get addicted? Personally, I used to smoke at least a pack a week - and then stopped to kick the addiction because it cost too much money to smoke and well... health reasons... but anyway, I still smoke from time to time because I enjoy it. It's even a very social tool - really, more than anything, it's a social tool. You can meet cool people just by being a smoker... smokers, you understand...
I know exactly why people smoke. I used to do it. At first nicotine is a very enjoyable little buzz. After a while it's a nervous twitch that can only be alleviated by that same little molecule. It's a physical addiction.

You are entitled to any physical addiction you want. I don't care. But be aware that the world is full of people who have no problem taking advantage of your addiction. If you don't like being taken advantage of, then don't give them a weakness they can exploit.

[LongSilence]

At first nicotine is a very enjoyable little buzz. After a while it's still just a very enjoyable little buzz if you keep control of the amount you smoke.


Fixed so that its relevant to me and perhaps others like me. If you don't want to be a slave to an addictive substance then make sure you're strong enough before you dive right in. If you're unsure take baby steps and have a very clear and rigid idea of how to get out when you notice you're beginning to weaken.

[earwax]

Fix... yes, that's a good term for an addiction. :rofl:

[inspectorgadget]

Fix... yes, that's a good term for an addiction. :rofl:

You make me want a cigarette... ;0)