What I know for sure

[Garyincinci]

Just thought I'd see where everyone is spiritually. I'm not seeking belief's...I don't want to know what you "believe"....Only what you know to be true through observation. A scientific experiment in god, fate, creation and the universe so to speak.....

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I am motivated to improve myself, my life and my understanding of the universe even though I do not always follow my motivations.
Everything is the same, but no two things are alike.
There is no good or evil, only perceptions of truth.
Balance is the only true universal law.
All things are positive and negative. It either is or it is not. If it is, then it must be balanced.
Imbalance can lead to imperfection.
All things are interconnected (through divine intervention, fate, coincidence, cause and effect or what I am not sure, I witness interconnectivity however in every aspect of life, history and the universe)
I have others, but thought I'd just start with a handful.

[Eileen]

I know that there is no such thing as a fall from grace; the only place to which we fall IS grace.

[nBT]

* what i thrust, i will gain
* what i precieve, is not the truth
* knowledge = a definition of preception
* 'two flow' one inward/convergent and one outward/divergent.
* interconnectedness is achieved my linking event chains (i dont know how)
* physical (human) action drives the event chain(s). 'knots and lines'
* the amount of energy for the physical construct is fixed
* we are looped stuck in the physical construct
* there is a physical, mental and spiritual realm. mental realm = place of consiousness
* nature = consiousness. a person = consiousness. nature = person. there are only persons.
* my ideals far outwheigh my capabilities / my capabilities are not idealisticly developed
* humans are incapable to handle their capabilities and connected responsibilities.


hmz i realize how much my thinking is guided by society and religion. not bad perse. i just notice. i kinda sorted them in a logical order. i keep creating and collapsing rules.
to draw a spiritual conclusion. i need help.

[songbird36]

* what i thrust, i will gain
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I like this one...ooh lala!

[Sackanaka]

I am motivated to improve myself, my life and my understanding of the universe even though I do not always follow my motivations.
Everything is the same, but no two things are alike.
There is no good or evil, only perceptions of truth.
Balance is the only true universal law.
All things are positive and negative. It either is or it is not. If it is, then it must be balanced.
Imbalance can lead to imperfection.
All things are interconnected (through divine intervention, fate, coincidence, cause and effect or what I am not sure, I witness interconnectivity however in every aspect of life, history and the universe)
I have others, but thought I'd just start with a handful.



Can I share those?
Also,
- Stuff happens.
- I like the taste of certain things but not others.
- My senses limit me and my perceptions; useful tools, if not illusion.
- Songbird has a "dirty" sense of humor. :D

[Pierce]

People who do not recognize evil have not had it done to them.
Be open-minded enough to receive truth when it comes, and closed-minded enough to hold onto it once you've recognized it.
Change is a constant and so is choice, but only one of them is in your power and that is the one you are accountable for.
A clear perspective will overcome a brilliant strategy.

[mgb]

Love's a bitch.

[euterpenc]

*Nothing is absolute.
*everything's connected (be it collective unconscious/fate/causality/etc.)
*the world is perfect the way it is
*status isn't everything
*if you believe you can do it, you can
*people are NOT equal
*somethings can't and shouldn't be changed
*everyone has potential, whether they choose to realize it or not is THEIR choice, no one else's

[floid]

I don't want to know what you "believe"....Only what you know to be true through observation. A scientific experiment in god, fate, creation and the universe so to speak.....


True through observation:

Where there is an observer there will be things that are observed.

A scientific experiment:

That ultimate truth will never be exposed in it's entirety by scientific experimentation because it's primary tool, the thinking human mind, is incapable of such comprehension.

Through both.....

[ObstinateBane]

This isn't original but here goes.....


Shit Happens

[Garyincinci]

Through both.....

It is not the answer that is important but the search for the answer.

[euterpenc]

It is not the answer that is important but the search for the answer.

That's a good one... But some poeple would say otherwise...

[Geoff]

This thread is beginning to look suspiciously like the rants and raves one on phrases that people hate. Ah well.

Personally, I 'believe' in nothing that I can not see as a consequence of perceived reality. I do however accept that reality is not fully understood (so things currently associated with the supernatural may turn out to be true - these change over time with science as they always have).
I am an atheist with an organic viewpoint. Truths do not exist. Morals arise from social conditioning.

Sorry!

-Geoff