Seriously, who didn't at least smile a little inside at the tasering?

[LongSilence]

Come on, admit it, if it wasn't because you felt the loudmouth dick deserved a little comeuppance or the humour of him stopping his endless 'astonished' cries for a brief futile plea: "Don't tase me, bro", you at least felt a little schadenfreude witnessing his plight.

In the end, that's what's important right? Well, at least more so than the inevitable twisting into an example of the terrifying powers of the police.

[trapstar]

I thought the whole situation was horrible

But!

I did laugh a little inside when he moaned after being tased
He sounded like a little retard :sorry:

I need help :ph34r:

[firch]

Observe the violence inherent in the system. Help! I'm being repressed.

[Theodoret]

Observe the violence inherent in the system. Help! I'm being repressed.

:theclap:

[Oso Mocoso]

Come on, admit it, if it wasn't because you felt the loudmouth dick deserved a little comeuppance...

No, no, that was pretty much it.

--Oso

[LongSilence]

Observe the violence inherent in the system. Help! I'm being repressed.

Oh Yeah?? Repress this, asshole! :laser:

heh heh heh.

[demagogic_schizoid]

if you've ever tried to get a straight answer out of a politician, then you'd sympathise with him. not that I watched the video but I sympathise with anyone who takes on the plutocrats!

[Theodoret]

Watch that video and it will have you cheering on the riot police.

[Rhu]

I laughed about as much as I would at Jackass. :mellow:

[Oso Mocoso]

I laughed about as much as I would at Jackass.

You mean it made you throw up a little inside, and lose a piece of your faith in humanity? But only a little piece, not a big one like the Teenage Kings of Werribee?

--Oso

[AboveTheCurve]

I found the pain he seemed to be in mildly horrifying.
The situation just didn't seem to be about humor.
If he was running around, being chased by an overweight balding cop and got tasered in the ass causing him to rocket upwards grabbing his buttocks, THAT would have been funny.

[Ghost-Girl]

I whole situation makes me sad, even if the kid was being kind of a dick.

[apple]

Come on, admit it, if it wasn't because you felt the loudmouth dick deserved a little comeuppance or the humour of him stopping his endless 'astonished' cries for a brief futile plea: "Don't tase me, bro", you at least felt a little schadenfreude witnessing his plight.

In the end, that's what's important right? Well, at least more so than the inevitable twisting into an example of the terrifying powers of the police.

we should taser you. That would be funny :grin:

[MadamI'madaM]

Yes, he is a fucking idiotic tool

but he did not need to be tasered

it's a strange time when the pussification of police leads to the widespread use of an excruciatingly painful (and occasionally lethal) "safe" weapon/control device

seriously, it hurts less to be punched in the mouth

and I have friends who've been brutalized with tasers when no witnesses were around

police states are no fun

[ApeTheDog]

No. I can't even imagine what is so "funny" about it, either.

[demagogic_schizoid]

Watch that video and it will have you cheering on the riot police.

No, I don't think someone should be tasered for having a passionate opinion, and he wasn't asking anything unreasonable. I thought the video was pretty disgusting actually.

But the truly scary thing is this: apparently 40% of people who voted thought that the police were right to taser him.

http://www.local10.com/surveypopup/news/14138712/detail.html?p=news#

[apple]

No. I can't even imagine what is so "funny" about it, either.

I agree. Although tasering LongSilence will probably knock my socks off

[MadamI'madaM]

I completely take back what I said about that guy.

I watched the wrong tasering video

this was ridiculous

so much for representing the American public

[LongSilence]

we should taser you. That would be funny :grin:

No problem. Next time I stubbornly fail to listen to people who are just trying to do their job for the good of all and then get stupidly offended by it all, sure taser me.

Seriously, its not like the police were silencing some guy for sticking it to the man a la Enemy of the State [and countless others]. Seriously, break it down for a second and answer these questions:

Did the police, as security, have the right to ask the man to leave for his actions?

Did they then have just cause for arresting the guy for his disobedience and attempts to throw them off?

These are the two main issues here before the tasering comes into play. That was really just the third strike when he resisted their attempts to put handcuffs on him again. Kerry - irrelevant. The man's questions - irrelevant.

[apple]

No problem. Next time I stubbornly fail to listen to people who are just trying to do their job for the good of all and then get stupidly offended by it all, sure taser me.

No, I think we should taser you because you for being an arrogant, tasteless ass ;)


Seriously, its not like the police were silencing some guy for sticking it to the man a la Enemy of the State [and countless others].

That is exactly what happened.


Seriously, break it down for a second and answer these questions:

Did the police, as security, have the right to ask the man to leave for his actions?

His actions of speaking up? No. For being rude, maybe. For asking questions, no way. Meyer wasn't carrying a pipe bomb, he wasn't urinating in public, he wasn't throwing rocks at Kerry.


Did they then have just cause for arresting the guy for his disobedience and attempts to throw them off?

Since they attacked him from behind. No.


These are the two main issues here before the tasering comes into play. That was really just the third strike when he resisted their attempts to put handcuffs on him again. Kerry - irrelevant. The man's questions - irrelevant.

You're overlooking the most important factor of this entire incident. Your small-mindedness amazes me.

[SensEye]

The mouthy women getting tazed in her car during a traffic stop about a year ago was funny. This one not so much.

The guy is clearly harmless, there are about six cops. Just pick him up and manhandle him out the door.

[MacGuffin]

The mouthy women getting tazed in her car during a traffic stop about a year ago was funny.
Hell yes, I laughed at that one for five minutes.

[demagogic_schizoid]

Did the police, as security, have the right to ask the man to leave for his actions?

Did they then have just cause for arresting the guy for his disobedience and attempts to throw them off?

No & no.

[stopharian]

The mouthy women getting tazed in her car during a traffic stop about a year ago was funny. This one not so much.

The guy is clearly harmless, there are about six cops. Just pick him up and manhandle him out the door.


yeah I thought this one was bit funnier than the mouthy woman.


http://forums.intpcentral.com/showthread.php?t=16196&page=4


this one ...not so funny. Where the UCLA cops stand around the kid and keep tazing him in order to make him stand up.

[Lurker]

eh....no

[Limey]

If it happened how the media portrayed it, (hmm) then it was about as amusing as watching your right to free speech violated by proxy.

His pleas and words were completely irrelevant to me, the sound might as well have been turned down, it was the job of the adjudicator to silence him if he was trying to turn the situation into a demonstration, police removal would be the last resort, reserved for someone spitting profanity.

I don't even care which side of politics the guy was on, he could have been a Bushtard like the Arkansas folk I sat and watched it with and the pandering SF sales people from out of state.

[apple]

If it happened how the media portrayed it, (hmm) then it was about as amusing as watching your right to free speech violated by proxy.

His pleas and words were completely irrelevant to me, the sound might as well have been turned down, it was the job of the adjudicator to silence him if he was trying to turn the situation into a demonstration, police removal would be the last resort, reserved for someone spitting profanity.


Exactly. We let go of our rights little by little, and soon we will have none.

[lowtech redneck]

This may or may not be an incident of police brutality (my computer sucks, so I can't watch the video), but from what I've gathered nobody is disputing that the event took place on private property, the man grabbed the mike without waiting his turn and spent considerably more time speaking than the format of the Q&A session allowed for. Forcing him to exit the premises is not a violation of his free speech rights under any of those circumstances. An example of free speech violations would be British Libel laws, which recently forced a British publishing firm to discontinue a book accusing some Saudi citizen of financing terrorism, and most likely discouraging publisher's from publishing similar books by other authors. Free speech in Europe might best be called "freedom, with their exception" (my apologies to Metallica). Hell, even Noam Chomsky (hardly a fan of the United States in general) acknowledges that free speech is better protected in the United States than in France.

[LongSilence]

No, I think we should taser you because you for being an arrogant, tasteless ass ;)

No-one gets tasered for actually sticking up for the police and actually considering them as people put in a tough situation. :P
Unless its you with the taser... then I guess its just a matter of seeing who tasers who first. ;)



That is exactly what happened.

No, but maybe if you wish, wish, wish hard enough maybe it will become so...



His actions of speaking up? No. For being rude, maybe. For asking questions, no way. Meyer wasn't carrying a pipe bomb, he wasn't urinating in public, he wasn't throwing rocks at Kerry.


Honestly, its NOT about the questions. They were asking him to leave at the start of his big spiel because he had rushed in and pushed himself to the front of the line. No-one has the right to do that. That is what started it all. There was no hasty speaking into earpieces by men in shades and black suits when they saw he might ask provactive questions. They were there already behind him because of the way he entered the forum.



Since they attacked him from behind. No.

Attack? Since when has taking someone's arms to escort them from a room been an attack. It's not like they were gripping him too hard.




You're overlooking the most important factor of this entire incident. Your small-mindedness amazes me.

And your blinkered vision astounds me. This is the man's own fault, and most likely his own intention. Watch again and ask yourself whether he did not want to make the mere fact that he was being asked to leave into an attack against his rights. To make it seem like he was being asked to leave because of what he asked, not the outlandish manner in which he went about getting his questions. He's probably so incredibly happy with himself now because he has at least been twisted into some sort of pariah in the eyes of a few self-important individuals.

[LongSilence]

No & no.

What? He was disrupting the whole proceedings for everyone else. He was causing actually more hassle and annoyance for the audience than for Kerry. Their job was to make sure that the forum proceeded smoothly. He was ruining that so he was asked to leave. Are you saying that people should be just allowed to make any public event about themselves? That drunken guys should be allowed to hog a mic at a pub's karoake after their song has ended singing wildly, even after the machine has been cut off? That a guy in a theatre should be allowed to shout out his own little personal rendition of Hamlet while a play is going on?

[apple]

What? He was disrupting the whole proceedings for everyone else. He was causing actually more hassle and annoyance for the audience than for Kerry. Their job was to make sure that the forum proceeded smoothly. He was ruining that so he was asked to leave. Are you saying that people should be just allowed to make any public event about themselves? That drunken guys should be allowed to hog a mic at a pub's karoake after their song has ended singing wildly, even after the machine has been cut off? That a guy in a theatre should be allowed to shout out his own little personal rendition of Hamlet while a play is going on?

For goddsakes, stop reading what was written in the papers and look at the actual video LS. I hate to think you're part of the demographic that is submissive to doublespeak.

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/video/2007/09/18/VI2007091800699.html

[LongSilence]

I've looked at the video. Two of them actually.

They are standing right behind him at the start of his speech on account of his entrance and his rushing to the fore. They try to tell him he has to leave. He shrugs them off. They let him have his questions but then want to get him out of there before he can disrupt the place anymore and because he has grown increasingly agitated. They were right to ask him to leave for his original violation of the queue and actually tolerated his speech generously. Besides, who's to say he wouldn't have been allowed back in the auditorium if he had left when first asked, explained himself and calmed down? You're just assuming it's all about the questions he asked. To me it seems like it was nothing to do with that: he could have made the most eloquent speech ever or talked gibberish. He still entered the place in the wrong way.

Or perhaps security should have let everyone who burned to ask one or five questions rush to the microphone and demand to be heard for as long as they wanted, shouting if they felt they weren't getting the attention they deserved?

[apple]

I've looked at the video. Two of them actually.

Then you will notice that the student was orderly-not "disrupting the peace" asked questions when suddenly pounced on by the police, harrassed by 4 cops then tasered.

End of story. Freedom of speech repressed. Unarmed, harmless student attacked and tasered.

Result? Loss of freedom of speech by proxy.

[LongSilence]

He rushed in, pushed to the start of the line, he spoke for much longer than each person was allowed. That video just shows the final 5 seconds of his long speech. He is asked to leave because of that. He is not attacked. Two officers try to take hold of his upper arms to ensure he actually leaves the buildings and does not distrupt the proceedings anymore. His response to two people encouraging him to leave: "Why are you arresting me?"

Did someone say he was under arrest? I couldn't hear it.

[apple]

I've looked at the video. Two of them actually.

They are standing right behind him at the start of his speech on account of his entrance and his rushing to the fore. They try to tell him he has to leave.

You tell me where in this video this occurs K? Cos it doesn't.
Name the source and the time code. Also delineate the audio source.

This was not in the video, LS. This was in written print , and it did NOT happen in the video.

Do you understand what doublespeak is? It's making people question what they know and see. It's telling people- There are four lights, when there are actually five, Get it?

It's a tactic that Nazi Germany used and you know what? I guess it still works.


He shrugs them off. They let him have his questions but then want to get him out of there before he can disrupt the place anymore and because he has grown increasingly agitated.

They did not ask him to leave.


They were right to ask him to leave for his original violation of the queue and actually tolerated his speech generously. Besides, who's to say he wouldn't have been allowed back in the auditorium if he had left when first asked, explained himself and calmed down? You're just assuming it's all about the questions he asked. To me it seems like it was nothing to do with that: he could have made the most eloquent speech ever or talked gibberish. He still entered the place in the wrong way.

They did not ask him to leave. Look at the video again. They pounced on him, dragged him away and then tasered him.


Or perhaps security should have let everyone who burned to ask one or five questions rush to the microphone and demand to be heard for as long as they wanted, shouting if they felt they weren't getting the attention they deserved?

Should they pounce on people then? Does that make it alright?

[LongSilence]

you've seen this video, right? (http://www.local10.com/news/14138122/detail.html?rss=mia&psp=news#)

[apple]

you've seen this video, right? (http://www.local10.com/news/14138122/detail.html?rss=mia&psp=news#)

You haven't I gather, since you only quote from news sources. Half of what you said, does not transpire in that video you've just quoted. You would know that if you had seen it.

[LongSilence]

Quit making personal assumptions you don't know. Actually, I haven't read any new sources. They interrupt him during his speech to firstly get him to ask his question rather than make a speech and then at the end they wish to take him outside.

[apple]

Quit making personal assumptions you don't know. Actually, I haven't read any new sources. They interrupt him during his speech to firstly get him to ask his question rather than make a speech and then at the end they wish to take him outside.

Actually everything you've said, including Meyer barging into line is a quote from a print media source- all the video sources do not substantiate that assertion, so I assume you read those summaries before you saw the actual video in which Meyer was simply attacked by police when he asked a series of questions.

[LongSilence]

Actually everything you've said, including Meyer barging into line is a quote from a print media source- all the video sources do not substantiate that assertion, so I assume you read those summaries before you saw the actual video in which Meyer was simply attacked by police when he asked a series of questions.

Obviously you know better about what I do and think than I do so I might as well stop posting. Here, have the thread.

[apple]

Obviously you know better about what I do and think than I do so I might as well stop posting. Here, have the thread.

We're looking at the same video sources, so there is no way you can assert half of what you're saying unless you're merely [lazily] assuming all the print sources are accurate [without proper fact checking]

[LongSilence]

I hear the woman officer say "Can you come outside?" at the end of his skull and bones question. I'm telling you I haven't read any print sources so please quit assuming I'm assuming.

[Oso Mocoso]

They did not ask him to leave. Look at the video again. They pounced on him, dragged him away and then tasered him.

Umm ... Apple, yes they do ask him to leave.

http://video.nbc6.net/player/?id=157250

At -6:27, you can clearly see in this video a police officer putting her hand on Meyer's shoulder. He acknowledges her, and says how Kerry has been there for 90 minutes, and how he's entitled to occupy his time. You can't hear the officer's words on the mic, but she said in print that she told him to get off the mic, and that makes sense in the context of the video. What else would she have said?

This video is longer than the ones you have cited, and yet at the beginning of it, it's clear that Meyer has been on the microphone for a while before this person started filming.

--Oso

[NoahFence]

Come on, admit it, if it wasn't because you felt the loudmouth dick deserved a little comeuppance or the humour of him stopping his endless 'astonished' cries for a brief futile plea: "Don't tase me, bro", you at least felt a little schadenfreude witnessing his plight.

In the end, that's what's important right? Well, at least more so than the inevitable twisting into an example of the terrifying powers of the police.

Guilty *hangs head in shame*

*smiles some more with his head down so you can't see*

[Lateralus]

Come on, admit it, if it wasn't because you felt the loudmouth dick deserved a little comeuppance or the humour of him stopping his endless 'astonished' cries for a brief futile plea: "Don't tase me, bro", you at least felt a little schadenfreude witnessing his plight.

In the end, that's what's important right? Well, at least more so than the inevitable twisting into an example of the terrifying powers of the police.
I laughed. The guy was such a whiny little bitch. He deliberately instigated the situation with his own behavior.

[Stoned_Rider]

http://video.nbc6.net/player/?id=157250

"They're gonna hand me to the government!"
"I don't want to give you my name! I'm afraid!"
"omg they're going to kill me!!!"


FranG? :rofl:

[Architectonic]

The guy was clearly an annoying smartass - but that doesn't warrant the response he got - he started to be dragged away while Kerry was about to answer the question. Yes he clearly didn't like being manhandled and tried to wriggle out of their grip, but I would hardly describe his action as 'violent', nor do I think it warranted being tasered. Seriously, if six officers can't hold him down and put on handcuffs without using the taser, then they must be incompetent and should consider an alternative line of work.

[demagogic_schizoid]

What? He was disrupting the whole proceedings for everyone else. He was causing actually more hassle and annoyance for the audience than for Kerry. Their job was to make sure that the forum proceeded smoothly. He was ruining that so he was asked to leave. Are you saying that people should be just allowed to make any public event about themselves? That drunken guys should be allowed to hog a mic at a pub's karoake after their song has ended singing wildly, even after the machine has been cut off? That a guy in a theatre should be allowed to shout out his own little personal rendition of Hamlet while a play is going on?


Well I think Kerry's "play" is worthless and he should have to answeer to the righteous anger of the people, dammit! Shame on all the other people there for not disrupting his speech sooner, and shame on the fucking cops for getting off on their power trip and doing the work of their social "superiors". useless jobsworths.

[Larkin]

To Long Silence. I suspect that you are waiting for my response.

Maybe they should play enough of his tirade to give the gist of what he was so passionate about.

From some of his pranks on his website, I think we can say that at the least, he is an obnoxious individual bent on attention. This is what probably contributed most to him getting tased.

It actually worked to his benefit to be tased, but they had enough cops to just drag him kicking and screaming from the room to accomplish their objective.

The effect is more profound on the rest of us.

Tassers have killed over 200 people.

In a climate of growing repression over the war and an increasing invasive government, does this mean that if I commandeer a microphone to try to address an issue, I will run the risk of being tased?

Other people with think twice about speaking out knowing that there is an outside chance that tassers can kill.
That is the real effect.

[earwax]

If you feel he was repressed, maybe you should show your support by going to his web site (http://www.theandrewmeyer.com) and buying stuff from him. :rofl:

[firch]

The website appears to have succumbed to the slashdot effect.

[LongSilence]

To Long Silence. I suspect that you are waiting for my response.

Maybe they should play enough of his tirade to give the gist of what he was so passionate about.

From some of his pranks on his website, I think we can say that at the least, he is an obnoxious individual bent on attention. This is what probably contributed most to him getting tased.

It actually worked to his benefit to be tased, but they had enough cops to just drag him kicking and screaming from the room to accomplish their objective.

The effect is more profound on the rest of us.

Tassers have killed over 200 people.

In a climate of growing repression over the war and an increasing invasive government, does this mean that if I commandeer a microphone to try to address an issue, I will run the risk of being tased?

Other people with think twice about speaking out knowing that there is an outside chance that tassers can kill.
That is the real effect.

They had him on the ground. The difficulty was keeping his hands still enough in order to be securely handcuffed. I believe they might have been hoping he would calm down and actually submit to their attempt to take him outside the room where he was less of an attention-seeking disruption. I know it can often play out to humorous effect but I believe the police have a set protocol for when a taser should be used regardless of the crime committed. If you resist arrest repeatedly then I believe thats when people should be aware they run the risk of being tasered.

If the guy had simply stolen the mic, had his say and then happily been escorted from the premises he probably would have got a little bit of applause from the audience and been let off with a warning. But I don't think that's what the guy wanted.

[iponjs]

I support random tasing - that'll keep everyone on thier toes for a few weeks.

[Karl]

People have died from being shot by taser.

[NoahFence]

I support random tasing - that'll keep everyone on thier toes for a few weeks.

Or on their back, if their number comes up.

[V Profane]

I think its totally fucking shameful for him to even be arrested let alone held down and electrocuted just for being obnoxious at a Q&A. Having said that, he did use the term 'bro' and scream like a pussy. Which means this is funny (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AkMkGOpAF4s).

[NoahFence]

I think its totally fucking shameful for him to even be arrested let alone held down and electrocuted just for being obnoxious at a Q&A.

What would you have them do differently? Ask him politely again?

[stopharian]

http://www.printfection.com/FreeAndrewMeyer

[V Profane]

What would you have them do differently? Ask him politely again?

I didn't see any polite asking, nor did I see anyone explain to him what they were doing and why, and what he could do to avoid getting his ass kicked. Are people so afraid of dissent they need the police to 'silence' it, rather loudly?.

[stopharian]

I didn't see any polite asking, nor did I see anyone explain to him what they were doing and why, and what he could do to avoid getting his ass kicked. Are people so afraid of dissent they need the police to 'silence' it, rather loudly?.

read back over the thread...he was asked

[booyalab]

Are people so afraid of dissent they need the police to 'silence' it, rather loudly?.

yeah, what stopharian said. Read the thread. The guy was bogarting the mic. He had no intention of leaving without a fight. He had opportunities to stop attention whoring before he was forcibly removed and he declined to take them.

[Lateralus]

Check this out.

http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/news/world/us_and_americas/article2489183.ece


Not everyone has sided with Mr Meyer. Critics have suggested that the entire incident was a planned attempt to win attention for a student who has already posted dozens of videos of himself on his website www.andrewmeyer.com.

Indeed the video of the arrest was taken on his own camera, which he had brought to the John Kerry Q&A session.

Police claimed that Mr Meyer's behaviour was very different when the camera was no longer rolling. One officer told the Associated Press that Mr Meyer asked, "Are you taping this? Do you have this? You ready?" before beginning his questions.

[booyalab]

The guy is ridiculous, he gave no indication that he even wanted Kerry to answer any questions, he's just running his mouth the whole time. "wait, wait..I have another question...wait, 2 more questions, blah blah"

[NoahFence]

I didn't see any polite asking, nor did I see anyone explain to him what they were doing and why, and what he could do to avoid getting his ass kicked. Are people so afraid of dissent they need the police to 'silence' it, rather loudly?.

What, she didn't say "please"? She clearly asked him to come outside. Then told him. Then started dragging him. Again I ask what's wrong with this course of events, and what you think should have happened instead. Let him have the mic? Let any jackass with a chip on his shoulder hijack any forum indiscriminately?

I also believe it was heavily implied that complying with their attempt to remove him would avoid getting his ass kicked. The only reason to resist the popo is to acquire bruises and nullify your own ability to sue them for violating your civil rights.

Something tells me fear of dissent was not the core issue here. I got more of a "STFU, ass!" impression.

Sorry, I just don't see anything here but a jackass getting his come-uppins. He could have done this in a far more productive manner and actually counted coup on Kerry, instead he just wanted to stretch his nutsack over the camera lens. He needs a spot on Jon Stewart's "You're Not Helping!" bit.

[venerationOFrabbits]

Obviously the dude is an aspiring media hound. And a very good one at that.

Now, whether his actions actually further "the cause" or diminishes it, is another subject entirely.

[Anonymous]

Check this out.

http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/news/world/us_and_americas/article2489183.ece

Now, I don't know about other people, but if I were an employer, I would probably hesitate before hiring someone with attacking an officer and resisting arrest on their record. Perhaps Andrew Meyer is rather lacking in the area of long term planning?

[LongSilence]

Check this out.

http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/news/world/us_and_americas/article2489183.ece

I suspected that might be the case.

[MikeD277]

the kid was asked a few questions, only one of which could be considered kinda dumb (the yale club thing) but all kerry would have to say is "no" or something like that.

basically it felt like a big violation of free speech... as in "i don't like you questioning my authority so i will shut you up w/ whatever force necessary." that theme of the incident was incredibly appalling. not allowed to question authority? that's like principle #1 that was violated right there.

however, the actual guy himself i thought was pretty funny. i laugh whenever i hear him say "don't tase me, bro!" such a great line. and to be honest the pain itself couldn't have been that bad, like stubbing a toe or jamming a finger but it's the fact they used it to prevent someone from asking a question is what's troubling.

[Lateralus]

...
You obviously haven't read this thread.

[Lurker]

Oh for fuck's sake, they didn't need to taser the guy. He was being obnoxious, so drag him outside the forum. He was vastly outnumbered by the cops, and he was no physical threat to them or anyone else. Whatever would they have done before the taser was invented? Simple. Handcuffs and out the door he goes.

I always thought the taser was supposed to be used as an alternative to deadly force, not as an all purpose weapon. The fucking police overreacted.

Added: Who cares if he was whiny, annoying, a drama queen or anything else? None of these personal judgments have anything to do with how the situation should have been handled.

[Lateralus]

I don't think anyone has said he deserved to be tasered.

[Lurker]

I don't think anyone has said he deserved to be tasered.

I haven't read the entire thread, I have to admit. +1 for the ACLU

[MacGuffin]

Dammit, the purpose of this thread is whether it was funny or not.

[Lurker]

Dammit, the purpose of this thread is whether it was funny or not.

Both threads bleed together!

But no, I didn't think it was funny. It doesn't hold a candle to what happened to Miss Deaf Texas.

[Ashi, K?]

Oh for fuck's sake, they didn't need to taser the guy. He was being obnoxious, so drag him outside the forum. He was vastly outnumbered by the cops, and he was no physical threat to them or anyone else. Whatever would they have done before the taser was invented? Simple. Handcuffs and out the door he goes.

I always thought the taser was supposed to be used as an alternative to deadly force, not as an all purpose weapon. The fucking police overreacted.

Added: Who cares if he was whiny, annoying, a drama queen or anything else? None of these personal judgments have anything to do with how the situation should have been handled.
I love the apparent contrast between this post and your title.


I don't think anyone has said he deserved to be tasered.
Give it time


I haven't read the entire thread, I have to admit. +1 for the ACLU
Bah


Dammit, the purpose of this thread is whether it was funny or not.
Indeed, back on-topic, people.
Now, would "don't taze me, bro" be funnier on a t-shirt, or a hoodie?


Both threads bleed together!
merge!

[MacGuffin]

Indeed, back on-topic, people.
Now, would "don't taze me, bro" be funnier on a t-shirt, or a hoodie?
Indeed, I was just thinking someone has already printed up t-shirts of that.

[Ashi, K?]

Indeed, I was just thinking someone has already printed up t-shirts of that.

Don't avoid the question!

[earwax]

I noticed his friends wasted no time getting "FREE ANDREW MEYER" up on his website. But have taken their time getting it off now that he is out.

Notice his email address: famouswriterman@aol.com.

This guy reeks of being a Geraldo Rivera wannabe.

[MikeD277]

You obviously haven't read this thread.
you obviously didn't read my post.

[stopharian]

Indeed, I was just thinking someone has already printed up t-shirts of that.

C'mon people I posted this back in #57


http://www.printfection.com/FreeAndrewMeyer



Tshirt or hoodie


edit: my bad, they dont have a hoodie, but the do have tote bags,aprons, and mouse pads .

[TheAssofHumanity]

Gotta LOVE it. We live for that shit.

[Limey]

I think its totally fucking shameful for him to even be arrested let alone held down and electrocuted just for being obnoxious at a Q&A. Having said that, he did use the term 'bro' and scream like a pussy. Which means this is funny (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AkMkGOpAF4s).

I lived in Miami for five years, that's just how they speak in South Florida, "bro this, bro that" or just plain, "BRO!" "Bro?" "BRO!!"

kinda like everyone laughing at him because he didn't sound too sharp, like someone saying "ken". Obviously I'm biased, my parents with their "Brummie" accents often get lumped in with the actual thickos - the sad thing is, they know how they sound (stupid on the surface of it) when a recording is played back.

I took the screaming as a weak attempt at inciting a bit of Anarchy, maybe a little riot or police defiance even, either way, not worth the punishment.

The Florida police are going a bit loopy, another reason I moved away, they have already been in shit in 2006 for tasering a 12 year old kid and I think I heard about a six year old kid, as well as a pregnant woman.

Any kind of resistance to arrest (don't even wriggle) in Florida, and you're pretty much going to get the taser. I'm actually looking forward to the lawsuits playing out.

[Anonymous]

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v141/dwimages/leaveadamalone.jpg

[Limey]

http://writtenpolicy.com/protesting.jpg

[airjaw]

For a bunch of INTP's, you guys sure know how to let your personal feelings influence your judgment of the situation.

It doesn't matter if he was obnoxious or purposely trying to cause a scene. The issue is whether the use of a taser was necessary and warranted in this situation, in which it was clearly not. They gave the situation about 10 seconds before they decided to taze him. It seems as if the police are simply too lazy, too unfit, too poorly trained, or simply too incapable of subduing a person without the use of a taser.

I lean on the side of not using a taser unless it is absolutely necessary. The long-term effects of being tasered are still being studied and as long as there exists the potential for long-term damage to your health (or even death), tasers should be used only as a last resort. A woman in a wheelchair was tasered and died as a result just a few days ago.

Once you pull out a taser, you immediately escalate a situation to another level, which is something police officers should be trained in how NOT to do. They're here to serve and protect, regardless of whether you're being an obnoxious asshole. A police officer is supposed to be trained in how to handle these situations in a professional manner and resolve conflicts peacefully, with tasers, guns, and other physical forms of aggression as a last resort.

[MacGuffin]

For a bunch of INTP's, you guys sure know how to let your personal feelings influence your judgment of the situation.

It doesn't matter if he was obnoxious or purposely trying to cause a scene. The issue is whether the use of a taser was necessary and warranted in this situation, in which it was clearly not. They gave the situation about 10 seconds before they decided to taze him. It seems as if the police are simply too lazy, too unfit, too poorly trained, or simply too incapable of subduing a person without the use of a taser.

I lean on the side of not using a taser unless it is absolutely necessary. The long-term effects of being tasered are still being studied and as long as there exists the potential for long-term damage to your health (or even death), tasers should be used only as a last resort. A woman in a wheelchair was tasered and died as a result just a few days ago.

Once you pull out a taser, you immediately escalate a situation to another level, which is something police officers should be trained in how NOT to do. They're here to serve and protect, regardless of whether you're being an obnoxious asshole. A police officer is supposed to be trained in how to handle these situations in a professional manner and resolve conflicts peacefully, with tasers, guns, and other physical forms of aggression as a last resort.
But was it funny?

[Limey]

But was it funny?

As funny as wearing a little piece of Jewish flair

WOOH! in first with the Godwin - we need a Godwin smiley
:highfive:

[airjaw]

my post probably belongs in the other thread (why are there two?)

the "bro" part was funny.

it would have been even funnier if he had said "bra".

[MacGuffin]

As funny as wearing a little piece of Jewish flair

WOOH! in first with the Godwin - we need a Godwin smiley
:highfive:

:admin:

[Limey]

:admin:

I nominate something like this:
http://writtenpolicy.com/jumptoconclusions2xk.jpg

[MacGuffin]

Office Space can never be = Godwin.

[Limey]

Office Space can never be = Godwin.

Some more fitting Godwin candidates:
http://writtenpolicy.com/heiler.jpg
http://writtenpolicy.com/3rdrock.jpg
http://writtenpolicy.com/lotr.jpg
http://writtenpolicy.com/spanking.jpg

[MacGuffin]

Meh.

[Limey]

Meh.

Are you flirting with me?
Other blokes aren't my bag, baby!

It's all the bangers and mash!, you need toad in the hole, not bangers and mash, mate!

one more Godwin candidate.
http://writtenpolicy.com/naziland.jpg

[apple]

Umm ... Apple, yes they do ask him to leave.

http://video.nbc6.net/player/?id=157250

At -6:27, you can clearly see in this video a police officer putting her hand on Meyer's shoulder. He acknowledges her, and says how Kerry has been there for 90 minutes, and how he's entitled to occupy his time. You can't hear the officer's words on the mic, but she said in print that she told him to get off the mic, and that makes sense in the context of the video. What else would she have said?

Oso, from Meyer's response, it's quite obvious that the officer most likely told him to ask Kerry a question. Meyer responds, "Yes, well he's been talking for two hours, I'll ask the question." In no way can anyone use that video as evidence that the police asked him to leave because it does not imply that.


This video is longer than the ones you have cited, and yet at the beginning of it, it's clear that Meyer has been on the microphone for a while before this person started filming.

He wasn't on the microphone for that long actually as seen in the longer video. I would approximate he was on the microphone for about 45 sec before the police attack him from behind.

[lbloom]

I didn't find it funny when I watched it, but now that you mention it, yeah, it's a little amusing.

I'm easily entertained.

[V Profane]

read back over the thread...he was asked


yeah, what stopharian said.

I watched a video which covered question to taser. I'm giving my opinion on that. I did read what else had been posted.


I also believe it was heavily implied that complying with their attempt to remove him would avoid getting his ass kicked.

What I saw was, in my own demonstrably not humble opinion, disproportionately violent. I expect Police to have skills that reach beyond 'how to hurt somebody into submission'. The mic was cut, why didn't they let him retire of his own accord? Why didn't Kerry show some leadership qualities and either give him some kind of answer or tell him to fuck off?


For a bunch of INTP's, you guys sure know how to let your personal feelings influence your judgment of the situation...

Fuckin' right.

And if I look like a tool for posting this in this thread instead of the other alluded to thread (or any other reason), it's because I am a tool!

FUCK THA POLICE!

[MacGuffin]

Here's my favorite remix so far:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EGp6vL79NX4

:banana:

[Madrigal]

It's like a sketch straight out of 1984, and you people should be either doing something or feeling very sorry for yourselves, that's all I've got to say about it.

[stopharian]

After watching new video form the opposite angle on CNN I have to reverse my old opinion entirely. The video is kind of hard to find on CNN.com as they have tons of different versions and related stories. However it starts prior to the guys qustion and it is pretty clear that the police acted stupidly PRIOR to the tazing.


An additional thing that you can see clearly. The Kid was Handcuffed BEFORE he was tazed.

Its Interesting how a different perspective can change your feelings on the situation totally especially when the perspective change is only visual.

[Oso Mocoso]

Here's my favorite remix so far:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EGp6vL79NX4

:banana:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Xzkd_m4ivmc

Yeah, at least there are a few really creative remixes coming out of this.

--Oso