Blackwater given walking paper in Iraq

[Larkin]

This image of American top brass in Baghdad being guarded by private, $1000per day Blackwater agents is troubling to me. What sort of mixed feelings does it provoke in the minds of the regular troops?

As it appears now, Blackwater contractors aren't going to budge no matter what the Iraqi government says.

This Corporation earns hundereds of millions maybe more and the very nature of this organization is not going to allow anyone or anything interferer with their earnings.

http://www.blackwaterusa.com/

Domestically, Blackwater already had people on the ground in the aftermath of Katrina to protect corporate interests. The sight of heavely armed BW agents in black wrap-arounds was so fearsome in a setting of human devastion that they were quickly withdrawn.

Anyone think about What happens when Blackwater comes home?
There are others organizations that compete with Blackwater. Don't coporations have a tendency to merge?
What if they merge with a private prison?

Historically, Hitler was bullied into power with the help of a private army, the S.A. whose ranks were swollened by a devastating depression and resentments justified by the lose of the first world war.

If anyone knows that major events in history can hinge on the actions of a few, it is the corporate CEO's of Blackwater.

[Wolf]

The scary thing is that corporations can purchase and own firearms that citizens can't. I fear the military less than corporate thugs... These guys are better trained and better armed than the best police force in the country, and only marginally less than the top guys in our military (many are ex-military, though).

The loopholes we build when we give away our rights.

[Intension]

Silly leftist paranoia. The danger of any private contractor, paramilitary organization, or other "public-private partnership" ultimately traces to the danger posed by government itself, which you no doubt want to expand and give limitless power, provided it is being run by guys you happen to like.

[Larkin]

Here
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nqM4tKPDlR8

You mean the guys I like are running the show?

[stopharian]

Im not quite sure what exactly your fear is....


This is what I got from the OP:

If blackwater abides by the Iraqi governments sepension of their license to operate and returns its troops to the US then it might form a corporate merger with another PMC . The resulting PMC will then be used to usher in a fascist dictatorship within our borders?

Hmm that wasnt my first fear.

Wasnt it fears like this that ultimately allowed the Rwanda genocide to occur when international opinion about PMCs forced Executive Outcomes out of Rwanda?

[Intension]

Here
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nqM4tKPDlR8

You mean the guys I like are running the show?

OMG, Blackwater is run by a Christian!:horror:

[stopharian]

OMG, Blackwater is run by a Christian!:horror:

Not only that but they are from North Carolina......Hey wait a second.....There are a lot of posters on this forum from North Carolina........too many.

These fuckers are scoping out THIS forum for a takeover!!!!!


We gotta seal down INTPc and get ready to repel all boarders.

EVERYBODY MOVE NOW!!!!!!



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save.....your................selves

[Zero Angel]

I will avenge you my broth! ~ GRRK!

[C.J.Woolf]

It will be interesting to see how this plays out. On the one hand, the Iraqi government's order is a gesture of independence from the US, and it will be popular with all Iraqis. On the other hand, the Iraqi government can't compel Blackwater to leave. The US government can, but I'm guessing it won't. Republican cronies gotta get paid. But the Iraqi nation in arms can make life very uncomfortable for Blackwater if they wanted to. What if the insurgents were to concentrate against the mercenaries for a while? Would the US regular forces bust their butts to bail them out, or not? They resent the mercenaries too.

[Canuck]

I have a friend that spent considerable time in Iraq with Wolf Pack Security services. Don't kid yourself folks, most of these guys would go anywhere they were permitted to go and operate. These aren't accountants with guns we're talking about. Think for a moment about the kind of mindset you need to have to choose a "career" like that one. My friend summed it up nicely - "we and the Taliban get along great - they want to meet Allah, and we want to arrange that". These are trained soldiers, often career soliders that thrive in those environments. While they may not (or may) be willing to "work" in their home country, don't think for a second they'd be unwilling to work in some other 1st-world western country, and plenty of security companies there would happily work here.

.....nah, most of that's bullshit. My friend did work in Iraq for WPSS, and did relay those comments one day after inviting me to join them. They are nuts, and they do like it but I don't know I'd be concerned about them taking over...yet.

[scorpa]

Somehow this reminds me of Milo & Minderbinder Enterprises in the book Catch-22.

[C.J.Woolf]

Somehow this reminds me of Milo & Minderbinder Enterprises in the book Catch-22.
YES!

After Nately was killed in an air strike Minderbinder ran on his own airbase:

Minderbinder: Nately died a very rich man. He owned 5,000 shares of M&M Enterprises.

Yossarian: Nately's parents are rich! They don't need the money!

Minderbinder: Then they'll understand.

[Larkin]

yeah, J Heller's catch 22