Which INTP sub-type are you?

[jgreensp]

http://homepage.mac.com/bahlberg/iblog/B1386252977/C715152919/E467503953/

I'm the cynical one who gets laid a lot. Fits me perfectly. Anyone else?

[QrioCT]

im sure it occured to you that there might be more than just 5 kinds of INTPs out there, cynical guy? :D

[Warrior413]

Hmm... the "Cynical Realist" seems to be the only desirable sub-type there. I detect bias.

[joft]

i'm a bit of 1, 2, 3 and 5, heavy on the 5 except for the getting laid part :/

[Chall T. Dow]

I'm a pseudo-cynical. I'm cynical, but haven't gotten to travel yet, don't yet have the mind-numbingly boring job, and don't get laid much. Maybe working on the regular bathing would help.

Chall T. Dow

[Helios]

that was funny! But honestly I have never met an INTP who wasn't a type 5. I think the others are just stereo types.

[QrioCT]

Hmm... the "Cynical Realist" seems to be the only desirable sub-type there. I detect bias.

exactly.

[Polystom]

What a shitty notion.

[mgb]

After hearing how much most of the other INTPs get laid:

5) Cynical Realist:
This type of INTP has seen the world, and realized that they want no part of it, except where they can get knowledge, experience, and entertainment from it. They see life for what it is, a big cosmic joke, and often wonder if they should laugh or cry, but otherwise just say the hell with it, and go get laid. They tend to be sarcastic and funny, are world travelers, and can blend in to any environment, and they tend to get laid a lot. They also tend to be fairly well educated, yet stuck in worthless and meaningless jobs, both because the people around them are idiots and because they don't have the mindless compulsion to kiss ass to move up in life. They are the street philosopher, the beat poet, the writers, and fountains of knowledge and wisdom. They tend to play multiple instruments, and just generally look cool and sexy. Their experience is as wide as their knowledge is deep, and tend to be very observant, and get laid a whole lot. They shower regularly, dress well yet comfortably, tend to be sexy in a low key sort of way, and tend to score easily with members of the opposite sex. Although their living quarters tend to appear disorganized, it is an organized disorganization, arranged in such a way as to be easy to get from the bed to the door, and back without interruption. This subtype also tends to like to party, likes to go out for drinks, can get along with pretty much anyone, and tends to get laid more than any other subtype of INTP.

[Polystom]

Five seperate instances.

Fair wager the author's barely 14?

[FishOutOfWater]

I guess I'd be type 5, but I'm definitely not as cool as that description sounds like, and I have some type 2 as well. Until college, the Golden Girl would have fit me, except that I got horrible grades and was ignored by my professors (it still fits me in that I definitely get the best education and pride myself on it). I may be a professor someday, bbut I'm definitely not socially inept in general the way that subtye is described. I've always considered myself fairly social and well-adjusted for an INTP, at least as I've gotten older, and I generally dress typically femininely and I go to parties and stuff. And I'm cynical and play an instrument and sing, etc. I don't "score" a lot but I tend to get a lot of extremely nerdy men lusting after me. haha.

INTPs I know: A couple would fit very much into type 3 (Nerd), one would be a 1 (Liberal loser) with some 5, others would be 5s. I can't think of any INTPs who fit into category 4 (Religious Fanatic), but a few profs of mine would probably fit 2 to some extent.

[Swift]

I don't "score" a lot but I tend to get a lot of extremely nerdy men lusting after me. haha. How come only the nerdy guys chase you?

[INTrPosr]

Iganokami,

Good site, but none of the descriptions fit me perfectly. I guess it can be said that INTPs are those types who really can't be pigeonholed.

[Swift]

Iganokami,

Good site, but none of the descriptions fit me perfectly. I guess it can be said that INTPs are those types who really can't be pigeonholed. Is jgreensp the same person as Iganokami?

[glassmoon]

http://homepage.mac.com/bahlberg/iblog/B1386252977/C715152919/E467503953/


I fit the Cynical Realist: 90%, and the Liberal Loser 80%.

I wonder how sub-types can be identified (and validated) for an already rare type (%3 - 5% according to this (http://www.capt.org/the_mbti_instrument/Estimated_Frequencies.cfm)). By the way, did you notice they describe mostly males ( he deals with it here (http://homepage.mac.com/bahlberg/iblog/B1386252977/C715152919/E232226547/index.html) )?..

[sbw]

I've read this before...whoever mentioned the bias is right (i.e., only 1 of those descriptions is even remotely positive, and it DOES sound like it was written by a 14-year-old who just discovered playboy)...I think the getting-laid part is too broad a generalization; if I remove that component (which seems like it can go either way), every INXP I've ever met fits into category 5. (Granted, I dropped out of college; had I stayed, I would probably have met some 2's & 3's, although if I ever met an INTP who acted like category 1 or 4, I would be inclined to slap the shit out of them.)

Scott

[INTrPosr]

Is jgreensp the same person as Iganokami?Not sure, but I use to talk with Iganokami at INTP Open. I am quite sure that he is a member of this forum. After reading the definitions again, unfortunately I have to admit that the Cynical Realist fits me to a tee. I say unfortunate because, when I originally read it, I conjured up a memory of a former supervisor who I detested. He was highly intelligent and cynical. Most of all he had not problems letting people know that he was a bigot and racist.

[jgreensp]

By the way, the link I posted was more for kicks, I don't really believe in this sub-type thing, at least not into such a small number of categories. In fact, I am skeptical of the whole MBTI craze and I am even more uncertain after participating in this forum because not too many here are openly and continually questioning its validity and therefore I wonder if the sample represented here are not merely "INTP-centric" people who want this temperament style to describe them more than it actually does.

[lexiphanic]

well, there are not too many hard-core INTPs. Edmond Zedo is closest, but I think he has a bit of J in him. You will always find that people vary from the primary descriptions just a bit. They will typically realize this, and not make a big deal about it.

You could of course start a new thread...

[booyalab]

well, there are not too many hard-core INTPs. Edmond Zedo is closest, but I think he has a bit of J in him. ...
I don't think so, his belligerence, while superficially J-like, has somewhat insecure (for lack of a better term) undertones more like an INTP..than the more calm, steady, confidence that INTJs possess. Plus, he's lazier than me ;)

[Geoff]

I don't think so, his belligerence, while superficially J-like, has somewhat insecure (for lack of a better term) undertones more like an INTP..than the more calm, steady, confidence that INTJs possess. Plus, he's lazier than me ;)

I also think he is too irrational at times to be the 'closest' to the type too.

-Geoff

[booyalab]

I also think he is too irrational at times to be the 'closest' to the type too.

-Geoff

I Know he wants to be the 'closest' to the type, and I agree he does act irrational sometimes, but that may just point to the possibility of an unhealthy shadow, also his sense of humor. (edit: and NO ONE in the world is as objective and rational as an INTP thinks he/she is.)

[n0mad]

I'm a bit misguided [not being sarcastic]. What WOULD perfect INTP be like?

[booyalab]

I'm a bit misguided [not being sarcastic]. What WOULD perfect INTP be like?

I think when we talk about "perfect" INTP, we're mostly just entertaining the idea, at least I know I am. I don't think it would be possible to prove someone's purely INTP, it's so subjective.

[n0mad]

No, i'm interested in his characteristics. What would he be like?

[booyalab]

I think you'd need a very good understanding of temperament and the specific personality type, but don't pay much attention to the details contained in profiles, like in the typelogic one it says INTPs like photography. Even though an INTP profile may have reasoning for why an INTP would like photography, doesn't mean that same reasoning may apply to some totally different interest but not photography. Also, since it's an open system, other factors like gender, learning preference, etc will affect your interests. So, the point is, the more general parts of the description will apply to a 'perfect' INTP more than the specifics, generally-speaking.

[misutii]

im a romantic cynical pessimistic realist where's that option junior!?

[euterpenc]

extreme on the cynical one, except for the getting laid thing

[Edmond Zedo]

I don't think so, his belligerence, while superficially J-like, has somewhat insecure (for lack of a better term) undertones more like an INTP..than the more calm, steady, confidence that INTJs possess. Plus, he's lazier than me ;)
Thanks, hon. :P

Yes, I know what it means to be INTP, miss wannabe ENFJ psychoanalyst, and I do "percieve." But when I'm outwardly confident about something, it's because I've acquired serious knowledge and/or done serious contemplation. I won't say "This is just my opinion..." when I'm sure.

[Edmond Zedo]

I'm a bit misguided [not being sarcastic]. What WOULD perfect INTP be like?
Assuming you mean perfect=entirely INTP, not perfect=best overall, I don't believe it's possible. He would certainly be of no use to anyone. I'll say I'm INTP enough that I'm often out of sync with the world in one way or another.

[sbw]

extreme on the cynical one, except for the getting laid thing

ditto. seems like most of us.

Scott

[sbw]

By the way, the link I posted was more for kicks, I don't really believe in this sub-type thing, at least not into such a small number of categories. In fact, I am skeptical of the whole MBTI craze and I am even more uncertain after participating in this forum because not too many here are openly and continually questioning its validity and therefore I wonder if the sample represented here are not merely "INTP-centric" people who want this temperament style to describe them more than it actually does.

I think it's valid in an extremely general sense. While recognizing the possibility that the whole concept is/could be pseudo-science horseshit, I think it does illustrate behavioral patterns (in similar individuals, admittedly as pre-defined by presumptive "type") which repeated example prove to be repetitive and thus predictable. A better understanding of the motives and desires of those around me (their brains really do seem to work different) has, as one of my friends describes it, caused me to be more tolerant of others. For instance, I'm less scornful and contemptuous of my ISTP friend who goes to the bar and tries to pick up a different fat slut for the evening, every evening, or I'm less frustrated by my ISFJ mom's inability to empirically substantiate anything ever (or her unwillingness to think that empirical substantiation is at all relevant). I think that by understanding them better, I'm less judmental, incrementally nicer, and I don't tend to get as frustrated by the fact that they're all so dumb. So, in summation, I think it a worthwhile analytical mechanism while not slavishly accepting these concepts as unimpeachably, scientifically valid.

Scott

[Heather Harrison]

Subtypes seldom fit anyone perfectly, and (as I am sure most of us have observed) the MBTI is seldom a perfect fit. But these tools can give us useful data points.

There is some truth to those subtypes. These days, I probably fit best into the Cynical Realist (but I never get laid; I don't like bars and parties; and I don't play a musical instrument, although I have enough records and CDs to stock a small, exceedingly weird radio station). Many of the traits of the Classic Nerd also fit me, and I think that would have been the best fit earlier in life (many of the traits of Cynical Realism come with maturity). I am asexual; I am good at programming computers (although not nearly as obsessed as I once was); there is rotten food in my apartment (it is a rare occasion when there isn't a bag of stale potato chips on the floor somewhere); and I am well-educated (possible Golden Girl trait there). But unlike the Nerd (and more like the Cynical Realist), I tend to bathe regularly and dress well. The sight of a clean, well-dressed woman sitting contentedly in an apartment full of clutter, electronic/computer equipment, and stale food is probably an exceedingly strange sight, but it describes me well. It is a good thing that I don't live with anyone besides my snakes and turtles, and it is indeed fortunate that I haven't attracted cockroaches and rats (yet).

Heather Harrison

[Edmond Zedo]

It is a good thing that I don't live with anyone besides my snakes and turtles, and it is indeed fortunate that I haven't attracted cockroaches and rats (yet).

Heather Harrison
The old snakes and turtles are a good defense net vs. vermin. Keep it up.

[glassmoon]

The old snakes and turtles are a good defense net vs. vermin. Keep it up.
Turtles are known as fierce hunters...

[Utopmk]

5) Cynical Realist:
This type of INTP has seen the world, and realized that they want no part of it, except where they can get knowledge, experience, and entertainment from it. They see life for what it is, a big cosmic joke, and often wonder if they should laugh or cry, but otherwise just say the hell with it, and go get laid. They tend to be sarcastic and funny, are world travelers, and can blend in to any environment, and they tend to get laid a lot. They also tend to be fairly well educated, yet stuck in worthless and meaningless jobs, both because the people around them are idiots and because they don't have the mindless compulsion to kiss ass to move up in life. They are the street philosopher, the beat poet, the writers, and fountains of knowledge and wisdom. They tend to play multiple instruments, and just generally look cool and sexy. Their experience is as wide as their knowledge is deep, and tend to be very observant, and get laid a whole lot. They shower regularly, dress well yet comfortably, tend to be sexy in a low key sort of way, and tend to score easily with members of the opposite sex. Although their living quarters tend to appear disorganized, it is an organized disorganization, arranged in such a way as to be easy to get from the bed to the door, and back without interruption. This subtype also tends to like to party, likes to go out for drinks, can get along with pretty much anyone, and tends to get laid more than any other subtype of INTP.


Sooooo me!

Thanks jgreensp, that was very cool.

[Witticism]

I daresay EVERYONE here is type five. Fo' sho'.

[Utopmk]

I daresay EVERYONE here is type five. Fo' sho'.

5 is the most flattering, of course. I see alot of 1s. 2's, and 3's here though.

I say 5 because it is terribly accurate to my lifestyle.

[Witticism]

5 is the most flattering, of course. I see alot of 1s. 2's, and 3's here though.

I say 5 because it is terribly accurate to my lifestyle.


No, no, no, there are only 5s here! We're all typing this between getting laid and playing musical instruments.

[Ringoyam]

5 Definatley. I've travelled seen the world. Dont like alot of it but definatley find it intresting. The only problem. Im 15 and to young to get laid.

[Madrigal]

Wait a minute, does the 5 get laid? Pleaseclearthatupformethanx.

Whoever wrote that "analysis" is a total loser, who obviously hates INTPs and thinks he's a 5.

:rolleyes2

[Zephyrus055]

I'm a golden boy, totally. I have another INTP friend who has a highly developed Fe, and lmao, he is a total cynical realist.

[rawr]

All of those subtypes are lame.

Im subtype number 6

Subtype 6 is best described as the INTP that smacks the shit out of people who write garbage like that.

[Madrigal]

All of those subtypes are lame.

Im subtype number 6

Subtype 6 is best described as the INTP that smacks the shit out of people who write garbage like that.
Haha. :)

[booyalab]

everyone wants to be a 5, but you're all just 1s to me.

[Snowflake]

#3

[helium]

Hah. Five fits me closest for the sake of the ones listed, but I'd have to go with rawr's #6 option. I've turned down more offers than I've taken, and I've taken too many to keep hindsight from sickening me.

Ugh. Bastards.

[helium]

Actually, reading them through more thoroughly. I imagine I would rather have been a three, given the opportunity to choose before knowing any better. In high school, that's the sort of future self I saw.

Oh well. I always say I don't regret even the worst experiences I've had. I know I've learned from them.

[attila_the_hunny]

Where's the independent, smart-mouthed bitch subtype? I think most females on here would qualify for that one.
Except for me, because I'm sweet as pie.

[Marston]

What a scientific and insightful analysis. All it needs is some humorous photographs and/or Megaman sprite comics illustrating each subtype.

[No Blunts]

5 seems to fit me best except for the getting laid all the time part, and the part about instruments.


Although their living quarters tend to appear disorganized, it is an organized disorganization, arranged in such a way as to be easy to get from the bed to the door, and back without interruption. This subtype also tends to like to party, likes to go out for drinks, can get along with pretty much anyone,

This fits. There can only be one path to my bed. The journey is dangerous and if you do not know the path you will trip and land on pointy things.

[phenol]

Mostly "Liberal Loser" with bits of "Cynical Realist" fits me.

[PiccoloNamek]

I'm the rarest type of all: The perfectly well-adjusted type with no grudges against society/SJs/people, the type who isn't depressed or despondant, that hasn't fallen into nihilism or cynicism, and who is generally optimistic about things.

[sbw]

I'm the rarest type of all: The perfectly well-adjusted type with no grudges against society/SJs/people, the type who isn't depressed or despondant, that hasn't fallen into nihilism or cynicism, and who is generally optimistic about things.

I'm a cynical optimist.

Scott

[Jacque]

Iganokami was a member at intp-open. His types are mere caricatures of the strong personalities we had on that list; more polemics than typology.

He got kinda of nasty when he couldn't win as you can probably infer from his style of discourse.

[Neppy]

Well, most of them are described in a derogatory manner, which makes them look less desireable. Personally, I can't identify with any of these subtypes.

[omnirook]

http://homepage.mac.com/bahlberg/iblog/B1386252977/C715152919/E467503953/

I'm the cynical one who gets laid a lot. Fits me perfectly. Anyone else?

Oh, of course, which of those other four could you possibly be? <_<

Were you a political science major? Did you do a term paper on limiting choice by making all but one option seem bad?

You are joking w/those synopses, aren't you? - I hope ... :)

[Rooster]

Yahoooo! I'm a Liberal Loser. But I don't smoke weed. I knew there was something missing in my life.

[th!nkstyle]

Fair wager the author's barely 14?

heh, that is funny and sometimes i forget to make that connection, which is possibly even funnier

[waxwing]

I'd be the 5 except the part about easily finding my way from the bed to the door. It's really, really bad in there. Oh, and I don't dress well because I like tattered clothes.

[sasapurdue]

Cynical Realist with some Liberal Loser thrown in. Haha good site - made me laugh.

[bergenski]

I'm pretty cynical about how realistic this list is, but I'll still go for the last one.

[outcast]

Why am I not surprised berginski?

[aether]

I am a hybrid of 3) Classic Nerd 5) Cynical Realist.

[cafe]

Iganokami was a member at intp-open. His types are mere caricatures of the strong personalities we had on that list; more polemics than typology.

He got kinda of nasty when he couldn't win as you can probably infer from his style of discourse.
Yep, good ole Ig. His overall flavor is bitter. I hope that he will become less so eventually.

[bergenski]

Why am I not surprised berginski?
I don't know...

[spirilis]

Some variety of the Classic Nerd.

[outmywindow]

Blend the Classic Nerd with the Cynical Realist, and you've got me. Unfortunately I seem to have inherited the sex-factor of the Nerd (blast!), as well as the ability to talk about Star Trek...

Honestly, these were somewhat insulting, and if I were a more sensitive person, they probably would have made me grumble all night long! Heh.

Also, did it not occur to the author that some of us INTPs are female? Come on, I want to hear about all the slobby women marrying the first guy to lay them in their late 20s to early 30s! ;)

[Nindy]

Although I don't fit into any of those categories perfectly, probably because of the insane stereotypes and expectations that flow through all descriptions, I guess I could say: one, two and five. But most importantly: the one who will rule the univ- I mean, me.

[random speck]

Cynical Realist is the closest to my experience

I don't get laid as much... because I have much higher standards than most that the majority falls way short

I'm a realist in context of my own view... outside of that view I couldn't see myself as such

Problem is, nobody has my view... the closest one is miles away from sanity

[nonoriginal]

I don't fit any of those...

Are there more kinds?<_<

[sbw]

why won't this thread die?

Scott

[shay]

CYNICAL REALIST.

I thought it was funny how every 3rd sentence had to do with getting laid.

[outmywindow]

why won't this thread die?

Scott

Because people keep posting to ask if/when this thread will die, then other people post responses to said post, thus ensuring its continuation.

[NikitaNT]

Golden Girl

[Chunes]

I'd say I'm the classical nerd looking to make the transition to cynical realist.

[fripping]

Golden Girl

are you more of a bea arthur or an estelle getty?