New world order.

[rainfall]

I just have seen "endgame - Blueprint for global enslavement".

Is this true? Or false? Are people like alex jones conspiracy nuts or the only clear-eyed rebels? What do you think? Should something be done, and if so, then what?

[Anonymous]

I highly doubt if. If there were some sort of organization like that, we'd probably have been launched into a mock WWIII by now in order to justify various actions. And I don't mean petty stuff like 9/11 to justify the Patriot act (not that I'm saying that's why it happened) but stuff like going to war against France to justify martial law.

Instead, you just see mostly the result of a bunch of college buddies giving each other favors.

[rainfall]

Why do you think WWIII would be more efficient?

[Anonymous]

Why do you think WWIII would be more efficient?

They could enact a draft, possibly declare martial law where needed, blow up buildings or kill people who pose a threat and blame it on the enemy, put a tighter control on the economy, spread mass propaganda with what seems like a cause, and get away with more severe changes to the law and constitution. You can't use 9/11 as an excuse for all of that, as is evidenced by the fact that no one has.

Getting into universities would be a big one, too. A lot of brainwashing potential is in there. That might be a bit tougher, though. Although give it a few years of pure war and horror stories, and people probably wouldn't even blink at the government hand picking which professors go into teaching. Hell, as long as they fabricate a story about French posing as college professors and spreading false propaganda, I'm sure it'd go well, even. Of course, they'd want to put the tuition through the roof as well so that only the elite get in. You've gotta have a much larger divide between the upper and lower class if you want to enslave the world properly.

[rek]

Honestly, looking at our presidential candidates, I don't think WWIII is that far away... at all...

edit - and the ground work for all the things in the post above mine has already been laid, and much of it's already begun to happen. We're not there yet, but it's certainly headed that direction.

[rainfall]

They could enact a draft, possibly declare martial law where needed, blow up buildings or kill people who pose a threat and blame it on the enemy, put a tighter control on the economy, spread mass propaganda with what seems like a cause, and get away with more severe changes to the law and constitution. You can't use 9/11 as an excuse for all of that, as is evidenced by the fact that they haven't.

Gradual change goes down easier than a single overnight change. If you take away rights slowly, one by one, eventually no one will remember there were rights to begin with. If you take them all away overnight, even the dumbest individuals in society will know what's up, and will rebel. People have hivemind and an open rebellion could easily spread throughout the world and all the rich evil folks would be destroyed by the worker ants in a furious wave of violence. So it would take make sense to take things slow. Take away gun rights, and the next generation that will be born won't even question it. And slowly people will accept being a slave as normality. They won't even suspect there are alternatives.

[rek]

Really the "war on terror" is a much "better" move than declaring "WWIII". World Wars come to an end, the war on terror can go on and on forever. Every victory can be a motivation to keep going and every loss can be an excuse to try harder.

I really don't believe it's some kind of big conspiracy that's been going on for generations or anything like that. I think if you put people into positions of power they get corrupted, and over time it gets worse and worse. Who our leaders are means very little to me, when you give people the power to do what some are aloud to do now you will always get bad results in the long run.

[Anonymous]

Gradual change goes down easier than a single overnight change. If you take away rights slowly, one by one, eventually no one will remember there were rights to begin with. If you take them all away overnight, even the dumbest individuals in society will know what's up, and will rebel. People have hivemind and an open rebellion could easily spread throughout the world and all the rich evil folks would be destroyed by the worker ants in a furious wave of violence. So it would take make sense to take things slow. Take away gun rights, and the next generation that will be born won't even question it. And slowly people will accept being a slave as normality. They won't even suspect there are alternatives.

It doesn't necessarily have to be overnight. They could start with a real war (maybe using people who don't know about the NWO to start it), and then enact the draft. After that, use the war as a cover for screwing with the economy, and you could make a lot of people a lot poorer very quickly, and the others a lot richer. As long as the war is seen as defensive, that would probably lower the chances of revolt. The poor might be thrown into depression and in an attempt to get their lives back together, would be too busy to see the big picture and revolt. And the rich would be happy, and wouldn't give a fuck.

What Rek said could be true though. I don't see why the wouldn't have acted during this administration instead of the next, or would have blown a shitload of money in Iraq, when it could have been better spent during WWIII, (maybe training the troups for urban combat or guerrilla) but I still don't think that this kind of organization exists. People who become that powerful typically don't care about anything other than their own wealth it seems, and world domination would probably be too risky or time consuming. Plus, everything that's happening could really be expected. Like Rek just said, it's probably not a big, generational conspiracy, just corruption. Western society at its zenith. :highfive:

[rek]

. Plus, everything that's happening could really be expected.

Exactly. It's always amazing to go back and read things written by our founders where they are discussing the future. It almost seems as if some of them knew exactly what would happen and exactly why we may fail as a nation.

I don't think they made all these guesses based on knowing about a secret conspiracy. Instead I think they just had an exceptionally good understanding of human nature (possibly because they were likely struggling with many of these issues in their own lives at the time).

[rainfall]

It doesn't necessarily have to be overnight. They could start with a real war (maybe using people who don't know about the NWO to start it), and then enact the draft. After that, use the war as a cover for screwing with the economy, and you could make a lot of people a lot poorer very quickly, and the others a lot richer. As long as the war is seen as defensive, that would probably lower the chances of revolt. The poor might be thrown into depression and in an attempt to get their lives back together, would be too busy to see the big picture and revolt. And the rich would be happy, and wouldn't give a fuck.

What Rek said could be true though. I don't see why the wouldn't have acted during this administration instead of the next, or would have blown a shitload of money in Iraq, when it could have been better spent during WWIII, (maybe training the troups for urban combat or guerrilla) but I still don't think that this kind of organization exists. People who become that powerful typically don't care about anything other than their own wealth it seems, and world domination would probably be too risky or time consuming. Plus, everything that's happening could really be expected. Like Rek just said, it's probably not a big, generational conspiracy, just corruption. Western society at its zenith. :highfive:

Once you have 100 billion dollars, why would you be concerned with more wealth? They don't sell anything that expensive. I think that they're after power, just doing whatever the hell they feel like. As for world war 3 - it would be far too messy and would require a huge clean up.

[rek]

Once you have 100 billion dollars, why would you be concerned with more wealth?

With 100 billion dollars you couldn't even pay off half of the national debt which we will accrue this year alone.

[rainfall]

With 100 billion dollars you couldn't even pay off half of the national debt which we will accrue this year alone.

And why would you, as an individual, want to do that? :)

[rek]

Hell, I don't even want to pay taxes.

[aa318s]

Jesuits being the real movers and shakers of the NWO

[MadamI'madaM]

Shit, one slightly homogenized global nation held together by a sane dictator would be much more efficient and have many less problems on the global scale than our current worldly disorder.

if that isn't what NWO weirdos are afraid of, then I don't know how such a conspiracy could happen any differently than it already has (most assets held by very few, divide and counquer psych tactics, subversive distraction/propoganda)


EDIT: and irrational violence or the unjustified stripping of rights just seems like it would be counterproductive to such a scam.

because most backwoods militias would be torn to shreds by a decent SWAT team and there's nothing to revolt about when you've got cable TV and all this "freedom" they keep babbling about

RE-EDIT: also, if all rich people just secretly wanted to consolidate their power, why couldn't they just do it in peace? They could disguise it as the smartest international move in all of history. If you would agree that every rich asshole wants all the power for himself, then that knocks the "order" aspect completely off the table.

...unless the fear is of the final vying for all of the chips, which happens every couple of centuries anyway

the only thing that's different now is how scary the weapons are

[PsiKik]

There will never be a draft because that would be a reason for people to get off their apathetic behinds and overthrow the government.
Most people are aware the war is BS and would not want their loved ones killed for nothing but as long as the apathetic are not involved it's business as usual.

[Zephyrus055]

A better way to rule the world would be to

Eliminate confidence in government
Impoverish everybody with a series of economic and natural disasters
Play the hero, solving every problem with uber administrative genius, winning people to your side every minute.