Meta-Forum, please?

[xNTP]

Can we get this area going? Pretty please? :grin::happpy::gm::wub::smooch:;)

To refresh you memory, this idea was proposed a year ago and seems to have fallen through the cracks. http://forums.intpcentral.com/showthread.php?t=15487

To summarize: A forum where INTPc can analyze itself, it's dynamics, it's constituency, etc. It can also be a place to discuss history and evolution, which has been requested before. It'd be interesting, and if it sucked, you could just dump the threads in General Psychology. Having a separate forum is nice because it allows ideas to incubate by concentrating ideas in one area and inspires new ideas.

Edit: I added the poll just to gauge interest. I know y'all have the final say.

In closing, :grin::happpy::gm::wub::smooch:;).

[Rhu]

The energy would be better spent on lobbying to change the permissions/name for the "Public Administration" subforum.

[xNTP]

Are you really against it?

[Rhu]

Yep. I'm not a fan of redundant classifications.

[Anonymous]

This seems like a pretty solid idea; I'd like to see a meta-forum as well.

[xNTP]

Yep. I'm not a fan of redundant classifications.

I assume you mean the forum overlaps with general psychology, right? So does the MBTI forum, relationship forums, online tests, etc, no? Are you also in favor of collapsing them? (Serious question.)

[Sisyphus]

Could you put an option on the poll for infinitely nesting recursively-defined subfora? Just one level of meta is never enough.

[Oso Mocoso]

This is a wonderful idea. I fully endorse it, and furthermore I believe that for suggesting this Edahn should be awarded an honorary golden star that he be allowed to wear on ceremonial INTPc occasions.

--Oso

[xNTP]

This is a wonderful idea. I fully endorse it, and furthermore I believe that for suggesting this Edahn should be awarded an honorary golden star that he be allowed to wear on ceremonial INTPc occasions.

--Oso

I wasn't the first to propose it, but thank you so much for the gold star, Oso!

*immediately trashes Oso's star*

--Edahn :)

[outmywindow]

This is a wonderful idea. I fully endorse it, and furthermore I believe that for suggesting this Edahn should be awarded an honorary golden star that he be allowed to wear on ceremonial INTPc occasions.

--Oso

Should the honorary gold star get its own honorary gold star? Or maybe even its very own honorary Edahn to wear?

[Rhu]

(Serious question.)
Yeah, I find hyperbole deadly serious.

Primary redundancy: Public Administration - This subforum, in its original conception, was an invite-only version of what you are asking for right now. It evolved into a "Madmins Start Threads Only, everyone views, over-1000s can post" deal, and saw next to no use. The postcount restriction was recently removed with little fanfare, and it still sees little use, as none of the madmins really bother to start meta-forum theads there. They either start them here (in Feedback and Notifications, as with the T-shirt threads) or in the modbox.

If the intent is to have discussions on forum culture and policy, an adapted version of the PA forum would be the place.

Secondary redundancies: Feedback and Notifications, The Local Pub, The Playground, Personal Threads, Rants and Raves, Purgatory. Policy feedback tends to be filtered through this forum. Posts about forum zeitgeist end up in the pub. Popularity contests to the playground. Interpersonal matters between specific members end up to personal threads or purgatory. Items about posting style the pub, rants and raves, or feedback and notifications, depending on how emotionally charged it is. If the intent is to have all of these disparate topic types lumped together in a single forum, it would make things messier to sort through rather than easier.

[Oso Mocoso]

Should the honorary gold star get its own honorary gold star? Or maybe even its very own honorary Edahn to wear?

Actually, Edahn has shown himself to be an ungrateful little git. I hereby reject his motion, and propose that he be pithed, chemically preserved to the best ability of modern medicine, and his body be given to the golden star as an honorary garment to be worn on ceremonial occasions.

--Oso

[C.J.Woolf]

I think this thread is the meta-forum.

Now give me my fucking gold star, please. :)

[Oso Mocoso]

I think this thread is the meta-forum.

Now give me my fucking gold star, please. :)

Here you are, good sir. Wear it with pride. But mind the sheath. That's 100% genuine Edahn leather.

--Oso

[booyalab]

The idea sounds unnecessary, but then I'm an ISTJ.

[dunee]

I think it's a great idea; a place to talk about how INTPc compares with trends in online forums (fora?), and stuff like that sounds excellent, especially as a place to talk about forum history (for n00bs or occasional reminiscing). It would beat having to search through thousands of threads in the pub with the faulty vB search.


Primary redundancy: Public Administration - This subforum, in its original conception, was an invite-only version of what you are asking for right now. It evolved into a "Madmins Start Threads Only, everyone views, over-1000s can post" deal, and saw next to no use. The postcount restriction was recently removed with little fanfare, and it still sees little use, as none of the madmins really bother to start meta-forum theads there. They either start them here (in Feedback and Notifications, as with the T-shirt threads) or in the modbox.Well, the reason it failed is explained right here. What's the point if only madmins can start threads? Also, the name doesn't really lend itself to "this is where you can ask about the Great Erasure or just who the hell Claverhouse was." I'd be in favor of adapting PA to that purpose, by opening it to everyone and changing its name/making its purpose more clear.


Secondary redundancies: Feedback and Notifications, The Local Pub, The Playground, Personal Threads, Rants and Raves, Purgatory. Policy feedback tends to be filtered through this forum. Posts about forum zeitgeist end up in the pub. Popularity contests to the playground. Interpersonal matters between specific members end up to personal threads or purgatory. Items about posting style the pub, rants and raves, or feedback and notifications, depending on how emotionally charged it is. If the intent is to have all of these disparate topic types lumped together in a single forum, it would make things messier to sort through rather than easier.From how I understand it, what E proposes would not be for policy feedback (discussion of policy evolution, yes), popularity contests, interpersonal matters, discussion of individual posting styles (overall patterns in posting styles, though, is something that could definitely go there), or rants/raves, etc.

"Forum zeitgeist" could overlap, but perhaps the meta-forum could be the place for those posts to go (or at very least the ones whining talking about how the place "used to be"?)

[s0978]

Yeah, I find hyperbole deadly serious.

Primary redundancy: Public Administration - This subforum, in its original conception, was an invite-only version of what you are asking for right now. It evolved into a "Madmins Start Threads Only, everyone views, over-1000s can post" deal, and saw next to no use. The postcount restriction was recently removed with little fanfare, and it still sees little use, as none of the madmins really bother to start meta-forum theads there. They either start them here (in Feedback and Notifications, as with the T-shirt threads) or in the modbox.

If the intent is to have discussions on forum culture and policy, an adapted version of the PA forum would be the place.

Secondary redundancies: Feedback and Notifications, The Local Pub, The Playground, Personal Threads, Rants and Raves, Purgatory. Policy feedback tends to be filtered through this forum. Posts about forum zeitgeist end up in the pub. Popularity contests to the playground. Interpersonal matters between specific members end up to personal threads or purgatory. Items about posting style the pub, rants and raves, or feedback and notifications, depending on how emotionally charged it is. If the intent is to have all of these disparate topic types lumped together in a single forum, it would make things messier to sort through rather than easier.
agreed,

change the permissions/name for the "Public Administration" subforum.I'm down with that.

[xNTP]

Yeah, I find hyperbole deadly serious.

Primary redundancy: Public Administration - This subforum, in its original conception, was an invite-only version of what you are asking for right now. It evolved into a "Madmins Start Threads Only, everyone views, over-1000s can post" deal, and saw next to no use. The postcount restriction was recently removed with little fanfare, and it still sees little use, as none of the madmins really bother to start meta-forum theads there. They either start them here (in Feedback and Notifications, as with the T-shirt threads) or in the modbox.

If the intent is to have discussions on forum culture and policy, an adapted version of the PA forum would be the place.

Secondary redundancies: Feedback and Notifications, The Local Pub, The Playground, Personal Threads, Rants and Raves, Purgatory. Policy feedback tends to be filtered through this forum. Posts about forum zeitgeist end up in the pub. Popularity contests to the playground. Interpersonal matters between specific members end up to personal threads or purgatory. Items about posting style the pub, rants and raves, or feedback and notifications, depending on how emotionally charged it is. If the intent is to have all of these disparate topic types lumped together in a single forum, it would make things messier to sort through rather than easier.

What I had in mind was an area to discuss INTPc as an entity, not interpersonal matters, administration, or zeitgeist (the way I'm interpreting it), but as the object of analysis from a psychology, sociological, or anthropological point of view. Something more academic as opposed to whiny or complaining. The best candidate would probably be General Psychology as far as I can tell, since this isn't really a feedback issue. However, as I said before, you could lump a third of the subforums into General Psychology. Instead, by devoting one area to these threads exclusively, we could get some interesting discussion going on about the nature of the forum. Topics like forum history, forum evolution, social hierarchies, forum aggression and social grooming, relationships, social networks, politics & power, communication patterns, avatars, signatures, and territorial markings, etc. If you concentrate the discussion into one accessible subforum (as opposed to something like Public Administration which is in no man's land), I get the feeling that you'll end up fostering better discussion than if the posts are spread out all over the site.

Edit: I concur with what dune_E said, and yes, zeitgeist slightly overlaps, but the meta-forum could be so much more.

[xNTP]

agreed,
I'm down with that.

Shucks. (http://forums.intpcentral.com/showpost.php?p=445118&postcount=2)

[Hustler]

The idea sounds unnecessary, but then I'm an ISTJ.
You have finally come to realize what everyone else has known for years. Congratulations.

[Architectonic]

You have finally come to realize what everyone else has known for years. Congratulations.

I guess she is a bit quicker than you.

[xNTP]

So? Have we established that this forum won't be redundant?

[Dr. Haight]

Apparently not.

[xNTP]

LOL

But why 78?

[Dr. Haight]

LOL

But why 78?Well, there's 103 members logged onto the forum right now. Maybe a few of them are sleeping.

[xNTP]

I'm going to post my thread ideas that would fit into the meta-subforum here, in hopes that you guys start to see how awesome of a subforum this could be.

1. How does INTPc relate to MBTIc?
2. How does aggression work on INTPc?
3. How to politics work on a site like INTPc? How does INTPc compare to real life politics?
4. What directions can a forum like this possibly take?

[MacGuffin]

I'd like to reformat Public Administration to a Meta-forum.

Thoughts and discussion on the forum as a whole, the future, the past, whatever.

Thoughts?

(this is coming more from me as member than as admin)

[Rhu]

I should take up a career in prophecy.

[lbloom]

175%?

[xNTP]

I'd like to reformat Public Administration to a Meta-forum.

Thoughts and discussion on the forum as a whole, the future, the past, whatever.

Thoughts?

(this is coming more from me as member than as admin)

Brilliant idea. I've been wanting to post some meta-threads for a while but have just been sticking to my blog.

[MacGuffin]

There you go.

[xNTP]

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