View Full Version : Iowa Caucus Time!
Who's keeping up and/or cares? It would not be at all strange for the winners tonight to go on to be the chosen candidates for their respective parties.
http://maps.google.com/maps/mpl?moduleurl=http://www.google.com/mapfiles/mapplets/iowacaucus/iowacaucus.xml&utm_campaign=en
oxyjen
4 Jan 2008, 12:28 AM
I care!
I have to log off to get ready to head to my friendly neighborhood Caucus. I might post my impressions of it when I get back. It's my first time going.
oxyjen
4 Jan 2008, 02:03 AM
Caucus was short and sweet (ha!), and completely depressing.
Hopefully what I witnessed was merely a geographic anamoly.
Ellipsis
4 Jan 2008, 02:04 AM
The Ron Paul forums are of course abuzz...2200 people viewing the section for the Iowa caucus.
The GOP site is experiencing major slow down I think somewhat because of the linking to it...
Rudy at around 5%! I consider that VERY good news....losing to Paul would be bad for him.
kuranes
4 Jan 2008, 02:25 AM
I've been keeping an eye on things.
It would be funny to see Ron Paul beat Rudy ( the joker ) Giuliani.
oxyjen
4 Jan 2008, 02:29 AM
I've been keeping an eye on things.
It would be funny to see Ron Paul beat Rudy ( the joker ) Giuliani.
BTW, :wub: your icon.
That would be hilarious!
If I hadn't showed at my caucus, Obama wouldn't have even a single delegate from my area.
Bill Richardson had more support. That is decidedly UNfunny.
Creamzsoda
4 Jan 2008, 02:35 AM
Hooray for the sheep! Huckabee the bigot will save us all!
Ellipsis
4 Jan 2008, 02:39 AM
The site I was watching had a blip of support for Rudy...he went from 3% to 10% back to 3%.....
Huckabee...:(
Meliora
4 Jan 2008, 03:29 AM
Considering Huckabee seems to have the caucus won for the Republicans, I figured I should look up his political positions. And damn, screw that guy. I'm glad Obama has gotten this initial thrust, but there's plenty of states left. Overall, I think things are still basically up in the air for both parties.
silady79
4 Jan 2008, 03:42 AM
yeah I didn't think anyone would be ready for a woman president
Obama's got it for the dems, Huck for the GOP.
You rock, Barack, I say.
oxyjen
4 Jan 2008, 03:45 AM
I'm incredibly relieved that my caucus experience was not indicative of the majority of my state. Whew.
I don't think I'll go again, as caucuses are not pleasant for INTP's. One lady tells everyone to split up by precinct, which we do. Then you have to group yourselves by the candidate you like.
Next everyone has time to try to convince other people to come to your group, which we Obama supporters had to do since we were one person short of having a single delegate. Luckily, some other person was up to the job and we got our necessary seventh person.
It's a lot of sitting, waiting, and making idle chit-chat with others in your "group." I took a cell phone call outside.
I likely caused offense when a Richardson supporter around the corner heard me ranting to my friend about my disgust Richardson had almost twice the number of supporters, even though he was "likely functionally retarded."
I prefer standing in line, getting into a small enclosed space with a curtain, pulling a lever, and leaving.
booyalab
4 Jan 2008, 08:35 AM
It would be funny to see Ron Paul beat Rudy ( the joker ) Giuliani.
good news!
In...TP
4 Jan 2008, 08:39 AM
i'D VOTE IF i COULD RAISE MY HAND.
Ellipsis
4 Jan 2008, 06:15 PM
http://bravenewfilms.org/blog/23304-rudy-the-next-crisis-is-a-moment-away
Wow...mr.Giuliani you are the scary one...
Zephyrus055
4 Jan 2008, 06:53 PM
I find it so depressing with the unfolding turn out of what our options for president will be. None of the apparent victors will defend both social freedom and economic freedom. The Democrats are especially bitches when it comes to economic freedom, equivocating the upper middle class with the "greedy capitalist elite" in their policies. Fuckers.
sinnamon
4 Jan 2008, 06:58 PM
The current state of politics is just so fucking depressing I can hardly make myself watch. Why isn't there a single candidate that supports leaving us all the fuck alone. Personal freedom/personal responsibility. I'm so tired of the government trying to save us from ourselves. I want to go live on an unpopulated island.
sinnamon
4 Jan 2008, 07:00 PM
Obama's got it for the dems, Huck for the GOP.
You rock, Barack, I say.
Huckaby is a facist. I live in Arkansas. I hate that fucker.
C.J.Woolf
4 Jan 2008, 07:23 PM
Huckaby is a facist. I live in Arkansas. I hate that fucker.
He can't win. The movement conservatives are working to take him down, and Huckabee has his own Willie Horton in Wayne Dumond to use against him.
Huckabee's success in Iowa gives me hope that the Republican coalition will break up in a very public and very ugly way. The Christian Right voters didn't know this, but the deal was always this: they vote as the plutocrats tell them (through political preachers like Falwell, Robertson, Dobson, and Perkins), they elect candidates who serve money first and throw them some bones that don't mean much, and they don't run their own candidates who would actually give them what they want. Mike Huckabee is one of their own and he doesn't serve money first, and that scares the shit out of the money men.
owarinoTenshi
4 Jan 2008, 08:29 PM
The current state of politics is just so fucking depressing I can hardly make myself watch. Why isn't there a single candidate that supports leaving us all the fuck alone. Personal freedom/personal responsibility. I'm so tired of the government trying to save us from ourselves. I want to go live on an unpopulated island.
*cough*..ron paul.. *cough*
He can't win. The movement conservatives are working to take him down, and Huckabee has his own Willie Horton in Wayne Dumond to use against him.
Huckabee's success in Iowa gives me hope that the Republican coalition will break up in a very public and very ugly way. The Christian Right voters didn't know this, but the deal was always this: they vote as the plutocrats tell them (through political preachers like Falwell, Robertson, Dobson, and Perkins), they elect candidates who serve money first and throw them some bones that don't mean much, and they don't run their own candidates who would actually give them what they want. Mike Huckabee is one of their own and he doesn't serve money first, and that scares the shit out of the money men.
Oh, the Christian Right is figuring it out. Finally. It took GOP getting over-confident and stopping with the bones.
Yeah I've said a billion times in the last few days that I'm surprised it took the republican community as long as it did to support Huck. He's the perfect neo-con. A good-looking, sharp-as-shit creationist baptist preacher who doesn't put a lot of stress on high-brow issues like economics. I wouldn't be surprised to see him to get the candidacy.
sinnamon
5 Jan 2008, 03:05 AM
*cough*..ron paul.. *cough*
Taking a look. First interesting candidate I've looked at.
I said Clinton would lose this one. There are few women that could run this country, and she's definitely not one of them. In fact, I suspect that if the dems put her up they will lose by a landslide. The citizens may finally be waking up from the dynasty crap and want to end this senseless election of families.
The only woman that would have had a serious shot didn't want to run. Paul is the only mainstream candidate I feel comfortable with at this point, but I'm going to predict that if Huckabee gets the nod, he'll be our next president.
sinnamon
5 Jan 2008, 04:31 AM
but I'm going to predict that if Huckabee gets the nod, he'll be our next president.
Yeah, and we'll have our guns, but cigarettes & twinkies will be blackmarket.
Ellipsis
5 Jan 2008, 06:51 AM
Taking a look. First interesting candidate I've looked at.
I am surprised you have not looked at Ron Paul...I find that strange...where have you been the last 6 months?
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