Humans created by aliens who control the earth

[Karl]

http://www.truthism.com/

Read it in order. It kind of builds up. If you don't want to read all of it, read part of it, but still read it from the beginning.

I was really surprised after reading that. I don't believe it, but the way it presents itself makes more sense than, say, some major religions. It reminds me of things I've read by schizophrenics, except this guy is much more coherent than the schizophrenics I've seen.

I thought this was interesting too:

You all are slaves to your respective cultures, and
are not scared of the truth, but rather, you feel
embarrassed by the truth.

I think that's pretty accurate, as long as I assume he knows "the truth." I enjoy considering things that challenge my worldview, but considering this is a bit embarrassing... even though I've always been a big believer in critically examining religion with as little preconceived biases as possible? What's with the double standard?

I also saw something on one the pages they linked that claimed there were originally 13 astrological signs, I believe independently developed in greece and south america, but for some reason people switched over. Here's something detailing the 13 signs.

http://www.geocities.com/astrologyzodiacs/realsolarzodiac.htm

If we're to believe this guy, it's because there was a mistake and it became traditional. If we're to believe these people, it's because the reptilians got annoyed by how much people were relying on them, so they told the Illuminati to delete Ophiuchus.

Under this I'd be Pisces instead of Aries, which I can at least interpret so that it fits me.

I just find it interesting how elaborate all this is. I've really only looked into for a few days and that was a couple of weeks ago, but there's all sorts of books and seminars and whatnot, as well as people detailing their experience with aliens.

Again, I don't believe any of this any more than I believe in religion. I still often listen to the Christian radio when I'm driving, just because I like to try to understand opposing viewpoints. And really, this is much more coherent than Christianity and less far fetched than people rising from the dead.

[rainfall]

You can see the Reptilians via meditating, using hallucinogenic drugs, and sleep paralysis. However, these are the fourth-dimensional Reptilians, not the third-dimensional ones--but more on all of this later.

Hmm...

[Sojourner]

Heh. I enslave you, pathetic needy men.

[Karl]

Heh. I enslave you, pathetic needy men.

Yeah, that part rubbed me the wrong way. But I think once you're a fanatical believer in this you're okay even though you're a woman.

[Sojourner]

Yeah, that part rubbed me the wrong way. But I think once you're a fanatical believer in this you're okay even though you're a woman.

That wouldn't be consistent.

Although logical consistency might just be an illusion created by Darkness...

[Karl]

That wouldn't be consistent.

Although logical consistency might just be an illusion created by Darkness...

Why wouldn't it be consistent? You'd just have to admit how easily impressionable you are, and try to let the people who impress upon you to be those who are also fanatical believers.

[Sojourner]

Why wouldn't it be consistent? You'd just have to admit how easily impressionable you are, and try to let the people who impress upon you to be those who are also fanatical believers.

I guess it depends on what you mean by "okay". Impressionability and sexual predatorial...ity and emotional immaturity might be "okay" in this worldview.

[Karl]

I guess it depends on what you mean by "okay". Impressionability and sexual predatorial...ity and emotional immaturity might be "okay" in this worldview.

They only say that you're programmed to be that way, so you'd have to consciously work against your programming.

I mean I agree that it's basically sexist, but I'm coming from a scientific viewpoint which they say I'm not supposed to be doing.

[Sojourner]

They only say that you're programmed to be that way, so you'd have to consciously work against your programming.

Aw, that's so sweet! We can overcome our natures after all... [inspirational flute music]

(I think that it would have been more symbolic, though, if the Sun was a Rubik's cube. I am learning to solve a Rubik's cube right now.)

And as for sexism... psh. It's the Truth, and it's a lot more interesting than science and religion combined.

[rainfall]

The Earth is hollow, with an inner sun and a more advanced civilization than ours. In fact, all planets are hollow and have inner suns. Some of the Inner Earth people are aware of Earth's outer surface, and others are not.

I'm loving this.

[demagogic_schizoid]

:lol: they sound like the posadistas (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fourth_International_Posadist). I met one of them once at a Latin America conference in London, and once in Bournemouth. It was the same woman. I think there is only one in Britain. And she is French. I'm so proud this group originated in Argentina.

:gm:


Posadism as an ideology, is optimistic at the potential for Third World revolution, enthusiastic about nuclear war and space exploration by the former USSR and the People's Republic of China, has an esoteric concern for "harmonisation"; and "man's relationship to the earth, to nature and to the cosmos", and believes that UFOs come from a socialist future or alien socialist planet. Fringe science experiments involving dolphins and water birth are also popular themes.

bfore anyone asks, no, it's not Madrigals party. :p AFAIK this group has no members in Argentina, or anywhere outside of western European mental institutions.

[Karl]

Aw, that's so sweet! We can overcome our natures after all... [inspirational flute music]

(I think that it would have been more symbolic, though, if the Sun was a Rubik's cube. I am learning to solve a Rubik's cube right now.)

And as for sexism... psh. It's the Truth, and it's a lot more interesting than science and religion combined.

My understanding is that it's all about learning about the truth and working against the Reptilians' programming. This woman, for instance, is heroically resisting their manipulation of her in particular. Apparently they use her for information on how to live in human society.

http://theuniversalseduction.com/bartley/12/a-female-abductees-revelations-of-hybrid-infiltration


I'm loving this.

Apparently the "hollow earth" idea is a very old one.


they sound like the posadistas. I met one of them once at a Latin America. It was the same woman. I think there is only one in Britain. And she is French. I'm so proud this group originated in Argentina.

You mean the space trotskyists? No, these people are a lot cooler than space trotskyists.

[Acala1]

First and foremost, this website is not a joke. Now, moving on....

This was awesome...:theclap:

I am the only one that think that they are trying to brainwashing the reader...

[erm]

Many google searches can bring up the majority of evidence in a much quicker format than the OP link. Normally in a more scientific manner, avoiding the religious element to all this.

http://youtube.com/watch?v=KTcF-7opGLU

This was the video that got me into researching the reptile people theories. It's a good one. At least the start is fast and to the point.

http://www.apollonius.net/serpentrace.html

I remember this being a good read too, again without the religious element.

[Karl]

Many google searches can bring up the majority of evidence in a much quicker format than the OP link. Normally in a more scientific manner, avoiding the religious element to all this.

I think what you're describing isn't the same thing "without the religious element," but a fundamentally different idea in many ways. In fact what I linked firmly rejects science as a tool of the reptilians. They equate it with secret societies and religion in that we always have to take other people's words for things and can't really look into it ourselves.

I'm going to see if I can find anything about satanism on the sites related to the one I linked.

No, this is all I'm finding.




During the second stage people are emotionally shocked and frustrated, which leaves them vulnerable. Shocks can stun the intellect into adopting an immature binary viewpoint, that if something is a lie then its logical negative (opposite) must be the truth. For example, those who awaken from the lies of Catholicism but get stuck on the second stage either become rabid atheists or satanists, trading one stupidity for another.
http://montalk.net/metaphys/108/triad-of-progress

But I think you're attempt to write them off as basically the same idea is inaccurate. The similarity is that there's reptilians. There's also reptilians in some of the ancient south american religions, but the site I linked thought of those religions as tools of control for the reptilians, even as they admitted to their influence over their lives.

[erm]

I know they aren't the same thing, but they are similar. They support each other in a lot of areas. Both presenting scientific data, one claiming that other scientific data is false and their own as special (religious element), the other that all scientific data should be taken into account.

EDIT: Having read further into the original link, I'm seeing more and more similarities.

[Latte]

He is right about the seriousness of the flaws of the human mind's way of structuring a reality-view written about in the start at least. He doesn't seem to know much about the details of how however.


As for the other stuff, i am certainly unsatisfied with several current history explanations, and i don't buy many commonly accepted views, some are the same reasons he argues him/herself. I wouldn't believe his view with any certainty though, even though it fills many holes of knowledge I'd like to have filled, his case just isn't good enough to convince that this is exactly how things is/was.

Reading about such is always fun though :happpy:

Although, his writing style became pretty annoying not too far in due to repetition of some phrases.

[Karl]

Although, his writing style became pretty annoying not too far in due to repetition of some phrases.

That's part of why I said it was similar to what I've read by schizophrenics actually. I didn't find it annoying, but I've seen it in far less coherent sites like timecube.com.

[Latte]

That's part of why I said it was similar to what I've read by schizophrenics actually. I didn't find it annoying, but I've seen it in far less coherent sites like timecube.com.

Timecube is awesome though. :happpy:

[kuranes]

One of the very first Robert E. Howard stories dealt with this subject of reptile men secretly being in charge, before he had fleshed out Conan the Barbarian. Perhaps it's an idea that has been around since primordial times ( I've always wanted to say "primordial" in a sentence ) due to the existence of the "reptile" brain in humans.

[xNTP]

AHHHHHHHHHH!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


Don't eat at Sonic!!!!!!!!!


AHHHHHHHHHHHHH!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

(P.S. I used to eat this shit up. If you want something a bit more academic, check out Zecharia Sitchin who wrote some badass books on the topic of "Ancient Astronauts" in Sumerian culture. I still half-believe it.)

[Karl]

I still like the whole "SJs have no souls" thing.

[officehome&student]

In fact, the Reptilians have indoctrinated you so
thoroughly that you are probably too weak-minded to
even fathom that they exist. Via religion, science, and
other forms of indoctrination (i.e., brainwashing), the
Reptilians have steered you (and the rest of humanity)
in the exact opposite direction of the truth, to the point
where the concept of an alien master/creator is
considered to be the ultimate crazy fantasy.

O RLY?


so from reading a bit of this it seems rationality cannot be used to refute the claims made because rationality is infected by reptilian conspirators and will lead us to the wrong conclusions? Sounds like any other religion

[The Goof]

The Dinosaurs

The dinosaurs were created by the Reptilians thousands of years ago, before one of the Reptilians' latest re-starts of civilization. The dinosaurs were used in order to scare off other alien races from coming to Earth, and also to kick out the aliens that were already living on Earth. Once the dinosaurs had served their purpose and the Reptilians had Earth under control again, the dinosaurs were disposed of (i.e., made extinct).

The dinosaurs were not (and are not) a one-time deal, and have been created by the Reptilians (and then subsequently destroyed by them) many times in the past. Moreover, the dinosaur fossils that are found by scientists are only from the latest batch of dinosaurs.

Awesome.

[Roger Mexico]

Science is a form of brainwashing?

OK... uh, no.

I'll RTFA in a second here, but would this happen to have anything to do with David Icke?

Because I've heard that if you read a moderate amount of his "research" it becomes clear that the word "Reptilians" is basically a coded way of saying "Jews."

Addendum

Ok, I skimmed it and I'm not seeing anything I haven't seen before in some form or another.

"Your number 1 source for the truth."

[laughter]

Karl, have you by any chance read Grant Morrison's graphic novel The Invisibles?

I think you'd like it. Then, when you're a little older, you should definitely get into Thomas Pynchon.

[Meliora]

Pssh, all that kind of stuff is exactly what they want you to believe.:ph34r:

I like how he claimed the aurora lights are the result of sunlight coming out of the poles from a smaller sun inside the Earth. Fun reading, to be sure.

[MadamI'madaM]

You know, I was gonna write a long post about my thoughts on this, but I'll save that for later.

For now, I'll begin and end with this.

If you aren't smart enough to know that you have to subtly flatter people to make sales, then you deserve to be laughed at behind your back by everyone you know.

[Latte]

I still like the whole "SJs have no souls" thing.

Me too.


Uhm, just adding. I have seen faces when going into a sort of "trip" in the midst of meditating. Can't remember seeing any reptiles though.
But myeah, it is possible to see faces if you are in deep meditation/trance, and I've heard of similar experiences as those i experienced from people that used psychedelic drugs.

Just to be clear, i didn't mean anything more than i just stated, so don't assume that i assume that this somehow validates anything said by anyone.

|Adding emoticon for wtffactor| :llama:

[xNTP]

The Dinosaurs

The dinosaurs were created by the Reptilians thousands of years ago...

I've been saying this for years.


|Adding emoticon for wtffactor| :llama:

(...riding on a Reptilian engineered dino-thang. Nice.)

[Latte]

(...riding on a Reptilian engineered dino-thang. Nice.)


It's a secret subtle sign. Stop ruining. :sadbanana:

[MadamI'madaM]

Man, if I had a Canadian Dollar for every time that guy insinuated that I'm an evil sap, I'd be rich enough to buy my way into the reptilian club.

[kuraiken]

http://www.truthism.com/



Omg..I was brainwashed by scaly creature.

I hope I'm not the only one laughing at their 'The #1 Source of Truth.' :devil:

[Ptah]

I'll say this: if aliens really did create the humans, now I know who to blame. And if they really are in control, now I know who to kill.

[LongSilence]

Oh those sneaky aliens- they're even better at concealing themselves than that joker God and his master, the Almighty Spaghetti Monster. Only a select few are capable of discerning the truth about their existence. Good for them, finding a way to feel good about themselves and their superior knowledge. And they managed to get it compatible with the Truth- who's a smart group of boys?

As for the fascination with all powerful reptilians in all walks of the creative arts, it makes sense, particularly twinning them with deception and 'evil'. Snakes are the most obvious examples because most societies came into contact with some of their species, they're very deadly, they move silently then sneak attack from below, are hard to strike back at and don't offer much meat when they are killed. Also, they have fascinating eyes, which are a great focus point for humans. And we haven't even looked at lizards, chameleons, dinosaurs, 'dragons' etc. They have a certain 'alienness' about them compared to us mammals with their cold-blood, lone nature and yet aren't quite so strange as insects seem.

[Pope Sith]

Yahoo - Operation Clambake the inner secrets of scientology

There is some stuff in there about aliens.

L. Ron Blubbard

Go onto the scientology website and put your name address number and they'll scout out your house really well before giving a call. When the time comes for a person to call you to go to the scientology center and you meet him there, he'll be a little late because he was around your neighborhood at the time you were leaving.

[Roger Mexico]

I'll say this: if aliens really did create the humans, now I know who to blame. And if they really are in control, now I know who to kill.

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