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xNTP
25 Jan 2008, 05:15 PM
What is the most prevalent style of humor here and why?

Wordplay is high.
I also noticed a lot of meta-jokes, where the post itself becomes the joke.
Absurdity is very high too.
What else?

What's the factor that unites them?

ApeTheDog
25 Jan 2008, 05:20 PM
The factor that unites them is Rhu, I think.

I'm kind of pleased at the low number of "your momma" and "lolcat is shitting on your head" jokes. There are some of the latter, but they seem to be contained. There's a higher than normal amount of irony and sarcasm here, as those are probably the most cerebral forms of humor.

!diom
25 Jan 2008, 05:24 PM
I'm kind of pleased at the low number of "your momma" and "lolcat is shitting on your head" jokes.

I, on the other hand, am quite disappointed.

ApeTheDog
25 Jan 2008, 05:25 PM
I, on the other hand, am quite disappointed.

That's what she said!
Your momma!

(hey... wait a minute... )

Ashi, K?
25 Jan 2008, 05:27 PM
The factor that unites them is Rhu, I think.

I'm kind of pleased at the low number of "your momma" and "lolcat is shitting on your head" jokes. There are some of the latter, but they seem to be contained. There's a higher than normal amount of irony and sarcasm here, as those are probably the most cerebral forms of humor.

lolape is pancaking on your bunnie head. +lol


What is the most prevalent style of humor here and why?

Wordplay is high.
I also noticed a lot of meta-jokes, where the post itself becomes the joke.
Absurdity is very high too.
What else?

As sweat from a morbidly obese man, sarcasm permeates the many folds, crevices, nooks, and crannies of INTPc. As it allegedly passes for humour, I thought to mention it.

Latte
25 Jan 2008, 05:41 PM
The factor that unites them is Rhu, I think.

I'm kind of pleased at the low number of "your momma" and "lolcat is shitting on your head" jokes. There are some of the latter, but they seem to be contained. There's a higher than normal amount of irony and sarcasm here, as those are probably the most cerebral forms of humor.

http://img292.imageshack.us/img292/7599/tacocatii0.jpg

You lol'd. Yes you did.

nittanylion302
25 Jan 2008, 05:43 PM
You lol'd. Yes you did.

Granted that's deep as far a lolcats go.

ApeTheDog
25 Jan 2008, 05:44 PM
You lol'd. Yes you did.

A little bit. But it was only so I would not to hurt the cat's feelings.

Jennywocky
25 Jan 2008, 06:19 PM
As sweat from a morbidly obese man, sarcasm permeates the many folds, crevices, nooks, and crannies of INTPc.

Metaphors that you'd need an industrial sander to remove from one's mind... Very nice.

Personally, I like the meta-jokes. Layer them enough and you can't tell what's supposed to be funny anymore and what is supposed to be serious... which is a hoot trying to figure out.

Shoot!
25 Jan 2008, 06:31 PM
As far as absurdity goes, I think Limey takes the cake for that one.

LowEnd
25 Jan 2008, 07:06 PM
humor here is generally more creative than the average bear.

...wait...

..person, average person.

xNTP
25 Jan 2008, 07:49 PM
There's a higher than normal amount of irony and sarcasm here, as those are probably the most cerebral forms of humor.

Jusy calling it "cerebral" doesn't seem satisfying. Lets start with the question of why we enjoy irony and sarcasm. Why do we laugh? Surprise? Relief?

tinribz
25 Jan 2008, 08:00 PM
A little bit. But it was only so I would not to hurt the cat's feelings.Very wise, do not mess with the lolcats.

LOLzcats go after Scientology, too. (http://icanhascheezburger.com/2008/01/25/i-is-anonimus-cat/)

Night
25 Jan 2008, 08:02 PM
Jusy calling it "cerebral" doesn't seem satisfying. Lets start with the question of why we enjoy irony and sarcasm. Why do we laugh? Surprise? Relief?

The expectation of the language/theme defies our typical experience in such a way as to provide an evocative mixture of appreciation and amusement.

ApeTheDog
25 Jan 2008, 08:09 PM
What Night said... (whatever it was)... and also, I think sarcasm and irony rely on knowledge. The person who reads/hears the joke has to be smart to get it. A sarcastic sneer relies on the person hearing it to be thinking the same, or at least be thinking in that direction, to get it. And irony, moreso even, is a kind of humor that you can only get if you also know what it is that is really being said, and not being said.

This, baffling as it might be, could lead one to believe that INTP's like to think of themselves as a bit smart and all that.

Ashi, K?
25 Jan 2008, 08:14 PM
Jusy calling it "cerebral" doesn't seem satisfying. Lets start with the question of why we enjoy irony and sarcasm. Why do we laugh? Surprise? Relief?

Humour does not stand only on its own merits. The harder a tact is to pull off (word games, intricate sarcasm/irony/meta-meta-meta/etc), the less common it will be. The less common something is, the more humorous it is.


Thus you have Intellectual Masturbation Theatre.


Though this does little to explain such phenomena as Limey taking my ill-regarded and ineffective issuance "ambient fapping", and in a master-stroke reshaping it as the anthem of a new generation of lewd netizens.

Jennywocky
25 Jan 2008, 08:19 PM
Humour does not stand only on its own merits. The harder a tact is to pull off (word games, intricate sarcasm/irony/meta-meta-meta/etc), the less common it will be. The less common something is, the more humorous it is.

Going along with this and what else got said, I usually laugh out of pleasant surprise.

I love being caught off-guard by a response that is still appropriate in some way.

Sometimes I even laugh when someone does something I wasn't expecting but still fits (I realize then) with everything I knew of them before.

LowEnd
25 Jan 2008, 08:22 PM
Going along with this and what else got said, I usually laugh out of pleasant surprise.


Spot on, it has to be something I wouldn't have thought of, otherwise its too predictable and obvious, and no one here likes the obvious stuff do they.

Delilah
25 Jan 2008, 08:24 PM
Spot on, it has to be something I wouldn't have thought of, otherwise its too predictable and obvious, and no one here likes the obvious stuff do they.

Agreed. If I enjoyed the obvious I would talk to people at work wouldn't I.




No, still unlikely.

LowEnd
25 Jan 2008, 08:28 PM
Agreed. If I enjoyed the obvious I would talk to people at work wouldn't I.




No, still unlikely.

obviously

;)

trapstar
25 Jan 2008, 08:37 PM
Is there anyone on this board who doesn't find sarcasm funny?

I feel it's the cheapest form of humour and certainly not 'cerebral'. But that's just me probably

xNTP
25 Jan 2008, 08:39 PM
Spot on, it has to be something I wouldn't have thought of, otherwise its too predictable and obvious, and no one here likes the obvious stuff do they.


What Night said... (whatever it was)... and also, I think sarcasm and irony rely on knowledge. The person who reads/hears the joke has to be smart to get it. A sarcastic sneer relies on the person hearing it to be thinking the same, or at least be thinking in that direction, to get it. And irony, moreso even, is a kind of humor that you can only get if you also know what it is that is really being said, and not being said.

So laughing is a way of signaling, and thus displaying, intelligence? A status display, in other words?


The expectation of the language/theme defies our typical experience in such a way as to provide an evocative mixture of appreciation and amusement.

Why does surprise lead to amusement? Isn't laughing a strange phenomenon? If you examine it, it's a form of tension release with short breathes of air, mixed with a smiling face, which is believed to have evolved from a face that signals fear to threats. So, is there some fear that is alleviated? In the surprise? In the embarrassment involved in failing to recognize the joke?

And finally: :gm:

That is all.

563 740
25 Jan 2008, 08:43 PM
http://icanhascheezburger.files.wordpress.com/2008/01/funny-pictures-mc-hammer-cat.jpg

But seriously though, I think it word play/sarcasm/meta-humor are all just a function of N vs. S. Meta-humor isn't something an strong S is going to be able to see due to "tunnel vision" or "can't see the forest for the trees"-ness, whatever you wanna call it.

My ESFP-SO like to think she's good at sarcasm but she pretty much epic fails at it because she "remove" herself from the portrayal - her "sarcastic" comment comes off just the same as a "actual" snarky remark. Ya'know?

Jennywocky
25 Jan 2008, 08:58 PM
But seriously though, I think it word play/sarcasm/meta-humor are all just a function of N vs. S. Meta-humor isn't something an strong S is going to be able to see due to "tunnel vision" or "can't see the forest for the trees"-ness, whatever you wanna call it.

Partly that. And partly because they don't care much about those twists and turns.

"That's stupid," is the typical complaint.


My ESFP-SO like to think she's good at sarcasm but she pretty much epic fails at it because she "remove" herself from the portrayal - her "sarcastic" comment comes off just the same as a "actual" snarky remark.

Yup, it's straight-forward, usually... making it snark, not a lark.

S's tend to be pretty straight-forward. I think they appreciate a direct approach most of the time. It's the N's that get convoluted, twisting and turning and flipping things around... which to an S just seems like a lack of focus or tangential.

Night
25 Jan 2008, 09:03 PM
Why does surprise lead to amusement? Isn't laughing a strange phenomenon? If you examine it, it's a form of tension release with short breathes of air, mixed with a smiling face, which is believed to have evolved from a face that signals fear to threats. So, is there some fear that is alleviated? In the surprise? In the embarrassment involved in failing to recognize the joke?


Nice question.

My best guess would be a sort of proto-adaptation gleaned from our ancestral link to chimps. Over time, social variables may have helped develop it into its current stimulus-response model.

As social awareness was likely a relevant intuitive cue (especially within communal living), the protection of territory/resources was probably linked to hierarchical position within clan life. This protective display might range from simple outward displays of aggression (direct attack) to the subtle (display of teeth).

Gelotology (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gelotology) is the biological study of laughter and how it works to help humans cope.

LastRailway
25 Jan 2008, 09:11 PM
Why does surprise lead to amusement? Isn't laughing a strange phenomenon? If you examine it, it's a form of tension release with short breathes of air, mixed with a smiling face, which is believed to have evolved from a face that signals fear to threats.

Of what I know, it is indeed a form of releasing tense.
I think you might find the most important part of laughter is a big inhalation of oxygen. Surprise might be connected with danger, but human mind can quickly realise there's not danger and stop the organism's preparation with this reaction (which, if I am not mistaken, is unique to humans).




Gelotology (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gelotology) is the biological study of laughter and how it works to help humans cope.

I'd say it's mostly psychological.

563 740
25 Jan 2008, 09:41 PM
Partly that. And partly because they don't care much about those twists and turns.

"That's stupid," is the typical complaint.

:yes:

sinnamon
25 Jan 2008, 09:49 PM
Obviously, I enjoy the sarcasm & meta humor too, but I don't know what the common theme is in the things I find funny. Sometimes physical humor slays me. That seems pretty low humor. But I can't stand bodily noise/function jokes. Most sex jokes are flat to me. I hate those long story jokes. I love weird short jokes. My 3 favorite jokes:

Two cannibals are eating a clown. One of them looks at the other ones & says, "this taste funny to you?"

How many surrealists does it take to screw in a light bulb?
Tree.

How many Freudians does it take to screw in a light bulb?
Two. One to screw in the light & one to hold the penis -- uh, ladder.

What is the common denominator in all these things? No idea.

Lethal Sage
25 Jan 2008, 09:51 PM
ah, you got me...hahaha

Shades of Gray
25 Jan 2008, 10:47 PM
I love statements that have multiple meanings, including the double entendre. They always make me smile.

LowEnd
25 Jan 2008, 10:49 PM
Why does surprise lead to amusement? Isn't laughing a strange phenomenon? If you examine it, it's a form of tension release with short breathes of air, mixed with a smiling face, which is believed to have evolved from a face that signals fear to threats.


Of what I know, it is indeed a form of releasing tense.
I think you might find the most important part of laughter is a big inhalation of oxygen. Surprise might be connected with danger, but human mind can quickly realise there's not danger and stop the organism's preparation with this reaction (which, if I am not mistaken, is unique to humans).


Yup, and the release of tension will get your seratonin flowing because you're happy 'the danger is over', which is probably why laughing is a positive thing, instead of just a plain old inhalation, a yawn or something. With the 2 together, you get the rise in the popularity of horror films and 'ghost hunting'. Think about it, if you've ever been shit scared, what was the first thing you did when it was all over? Laugh. You laugh your bollocks off.

WhiteRaven
25 Jan 2008, 11:57 PM
Great. WR has brought out the pubescent humor I thought had died. :sadbanana:

I was going to post earlier, but I didn't know what to call it. Thank you sinnamon!! :)
WR