The mood here.

[Star]

[ self-moderated for trolling ]

;P

[Chall T. Dow]

:laser: Chall T. Dow

[songbird36]

[ self-moderated for trolling ]

;P

Are you trying to tell us something Deepsky? If so, you may have to be a little more direct, for the dunces amongst us..

:lol:

[garak]

8O

[SensEye]

[ self-moderated for trolling ]

;PDammit, now I'm curious!

[CreativeChaos]

:rofl:


:cry:


:rant:


:blink:


:dont:


DAMN!! Not enough emoticons!!! :laser:

[Geoff]

[ self-moderated for trolling ]

;P

I read it before you self moderated it. I wrote a troll-caught response, and then deleted it before you edited yours.

Troll war averted. Put the gun down and step away from the keyboard.

-Geoff

[CreativeChaos]

Okay! I spy a guy, who needs a naming thread, real soon. You're at 960 Geoff. And at 20 posts per day you will be there in two days.


Oh!! Songbird!!!! :whistle:

[Edmond Zedo]

"What is this Mickey Mouse SHIT?!"

[Helios]

Dammit, now I'm curious!



Yeah me too!

[Star]

Well all right since I can't delete this thread I'll use it.

Right now, the mood in here is: hostile

And who let the coffee klatch (http://redwing.hutman.net/~mreed/warriorshtm/coffeeklatch.htm) into this thread. This is a rant. It is no place for cute lil bunnies. :rant:

[SensEye]

Well all right since I can't delete this thread I'll use it.

Right now, the mood in here is: hostile

And who let the coffee klatch (http://redwing.hutman.net/%7Emreed/warriorshtm/coffeeklatch.htm) into this thread. This is a rant. It is no place for cute lil bunnies. :rant:Do you say that because of the locked/deleted poll threads that got f.c. stirred up (I kind of missed that whole scene so I have no insight)? Or is it something else?

The mood doesn't seem particularly harsh from what I can see. It was worse during the EdwinJ kerfluffle. Although the tone has been a bit more civil in the past as well.

[Star]

Or is it something else?


It's thread after thread after ALL CAPS TOPIC of really immature posts about gender.

[mgb]

It's thread after thread after ALL CAPS TOPIC of really immature posts about gender.

Not the first complaint about misongyny I've heard. It does seem like it keeps popping up on various threads and forums.

I'd call it a combination of curiosity and young male angst, probably two things very common throughout the internet.


(I even checked my grammer ;) hee hee)

[songbird36]

Not the first complaint about misongyny I've heard. It does seem like it keeps popping up on various threads and forums.

I'd call it a combination of curiosity and young male angst, probably two things very common throughout the internet.


(I even checked my grammer ;) hee hee)

I think you've marked yourself out as a coffee morning chick.

Do you enjoy Embroidery?

[Star]

I'd call it a combination of curiosity and young male angst, probably two things very common throughout the internet.


Yes, I'm aware of that, which is why my rant is more about my love/hate relationship with the internet than about this place in particular.

The thing is that no matter how old I get, these boys stay exactly the same! They just keep coming in droves, and trying to clue any one of them in is just a game of whack-a-mole; as soon as it's done another pops up.

That was pretty much my rant. Well there was something about Americans thrown in too, but I think I have a solution to that: learning another language. I have a theory that the internet in, say, french or chinese is a completely different (and much less ignorant and hostile) place.

[mgb]

Yes, I'm aware of that, which is why my rant is more about my love/hate relationship with the internet than about this place in particular.

The thing is that no matter how old I get, these boys stay exactly the same! They just keep coming in droves, and trying to clue any one of them in is just a game of whack-a-mole; as soon as it's done another pops up.

That was pretty much my rant. Well there was something about Americans thrown in too, but I think I have a solution to that: learning another language. I have a theory that the internet in, say, french or chinese is a completely different (and much less ignorant and hostile) place.

At the start of your post you sound like:

http://www.raisethetitanic.com/sahara/movie/misc_wp/castcrew/images/mm/pic_05.jpg

As for the rest. Young boys are young boys. Horny horny horny, no matter where or when.

But I know what you mean. Maybe this isn't the place for that. Maybe they need some sort of horny guy forum.

[Star]

All right, I should have said, No matter how old the internet gets. :laser:

Seems I've waited and waited for the women and the non-Americans to even up this demographic and it's never going to happen.

[mgb]

All right, I should have said, No matter how old the internet gets. :laser:

Seems I've waited and waited for the women and the non-Americans to even up this demographic and it's never going to happen.

CC found her way here...if that makes you feel better.

*tries not to grin*

[songbird36]

:rofl:

[garak]

The thing is that no matter how old I get, these boys stay exactly the same! They just keep coming in droves, and trying to clue any one of them in is just a game of whack-a-mole; as soon as it's done another pops up.
Well you can either give up on the internet, or you can just get used to dismissing them. That's what I do. I don't mean to patronize you, but there are people everywhere that you won't like or get along with. IMO the best defense is to just get used to ignoring them.


That was pretty much my rant. Well there was something about Americans thrown in too, but I think I have a solution to that: learning another language. I have a theory that the internet in, say, french or chinese is a completely different (and much less ignorant and hostile) place.
I dunno, I have a strong hunch that that's just wishful sheltered american syndrome. Look at how orkut became an annoying shithole when the Brazilians invaded. Look at how Shai Gar is Australian and yet is the biggest jackass on the forums. Other people are just as human, fucked up, annoying, and stupid as Americans. But like I said, it's a hunch. It's not like I'm some internationalist citizen of the world. I'm just now barely learning spanish again. :p

[Shai Gar]

i wouldnt say the biggest, i think you are. but lets not go on about that. because you are trying my patience and this seems to be a nice spam thread

[Geoff]

All right, I should have said, No matter how old the internet gets. :laser:

Seems I've waited and waited for the women and the non-Americans to even up this demographic and it's never going to happen.

Well, we try (I am in the latter category, of course). Of course, by not being a horny horny horny young American, and therefore capable of reasoned discourse and a balanced viewpoint, I am accused of being diplomatic, boring or tame depending upon the mood of the viewer. It seems as if the Internet doesnt want the demographic changing.

I find all of this amusing. My last work appraisal said (amongst a few nice things, admittedly) "sometimes appears arrogant - should at least pretend to be interested in the views of lesser mortals". But on here it barely surfaces in a wave of young male (and sometimes female angst) -often North American -in which it is submerged.

The internet wont change in a hurry, I've been on here for so many years in various guises that I doubt it ever will. You just get older and more cynical, and like you said, tired of whacking moles on the head so you let it go (tamed by moles, perhaps I am).

-Geoff

[Philo]

The internet wont change in a hurry, I've been on here for so many years in various guises that I doubt it ever will. You just get older and more cynical, and like you said, tired of whacking moles on the head so you let it go (tamed by moles, perhaps I am).

-Geoff

Or you could just put those people you want to ignore on your ignore list.

[Geoff]

Or you could just put those people you want to ignore on your ignore list.

Well, that is what I meant by letting it go, so yes.

-Geoff

[Philo]

Ah. Nevermind then.

[s0978]

Originally Posted by deepsky
The thing is that no matter how old I get, these boys stay exactly the same! They just keep coming in droves, and trying to clue any one of them in is just a game of whack-a-mole; as soon as it's done another pops up.
Well you can either give up on the internet, or you can just get used to dismissing them. That's what I do. I don't mean to patronize you, but there are people everywhere that you won't like or get along with. IMO the best defense is to just get used to ignoring them.

Well, yes, but I hope it’s understood that the solution is not as simple as ignoring threads or people. That is easy enough. It’s also frustrating that the angsty young males establish many of the prevailing terms of engagement. For instance, too many disagreements seem to degenerate into pissing contests. So, now in addition to avoiding certain threads and people, I’ll also refrain from any explicit disagreeing.

In the bigger scope, I suspect that not only do less women show up, but out of those who do, many just don’t end up staying.

[mgb]

So, now in addition to avoiding certain threads and people, I’ll also refrain from any explicit disagreeing.


Which is too bad because you have some excellent opinions.

in my opinion, the problems that I have seen on this site haven't come from young horny males. When I say young I mean in their teens.

Usually if I have a "problem" with someone enough to block them their age hasn't been a factor. Take relaxo for example. I have no clue how old he is. None in the slightest. I do find him narrowly focused on one issue and quite rude. He could be in his 50's for all I know (hence the talk radio comment I made).

I see what you mean though and I do think it's a shame that you don't feel like you can jump into the action because you don't like who is there and half of them are on your ignore list. Even though a topic can be insanely interesting you just don't feel like you can have an opinion because it gets stomped all over. Not criticized, but destroyed.

[Lee]

Well if everyone feels like this then we need to get some interesting and relevent threads going, some proper discussion on thought provoking topics and a better quality of replies. Threads like this are useful for reminding everyone of this but talking about it does not solve the problem, so get out there and post some interesting less immature theads. :)

I know I am going to make more effort from now on to only add proper relevent and hopefully coherant input into the discussions. (well, i'll try).

Oh and if this is going to work we should ban Shai Gar from starting threads ;) jk

[songbird36]

Or ban SG from starting threads with the words "Fuck" and "Women" in them :lol:

Also these popularity polls should disappear, or votes on who is awfulest. I only posted the young jerks poll 'cos I was miffed about Div 56's Hags poll, and I'm pleased the admins closed both of them. These sort of polls and contests do nothing to enhance the general mood around here.

Yesterday there were some *really* interesting threads going for those who looked - the ones on cultural differences and Aspergers were particularly interesting to follow.

[garak]

Well, yes, but I hope it’s understood that the solution is not as simple as ignoring threads or people. That is easy enough.
What is the solution then? Make a rule saying "don't be an immature hormone-driven asshole guy"? It seems too subtle to be able to explicitly create rules about.

[s0978]

in my opinion, the problems that I have seen on this site haven't come from young horny males. When I say young I mean in their teens.

Usually if I have a "problem" with someone enough to block them their age hasn't been a factor. Take relaxo for example. I have no clue how old he is. None in the slightest. I do find him narrowly focused on one issue and quite rude. He could be in his 50's for all I know (hence the talk radio comment I made).

I see what you mean though and I do think it's a shame that you don't feel like you can jump into the action because you don't like who is there and half of them are on your ignore list. Even though a topic can be insanely interesting you just don't feel like you can have an opinion because it gets stomped all over. Not criticized, but destroyed.

Yes. But also the threads which are just exercises in futility. For example, the threads which involve an angsty male (not necessarily a teen) professing something like "I'm lonely. Do women not like nice men?" These seem to be a recurring theme, and often go on for pages and pages. But really, they can usually be summarized to:

- "I'm lonely. Do women not like nice men?"
- "Sure they do, but there's a diff. b/t 'nice' and 'wimpy'."
- "Bullshit. Why are women always lying?"

How stupid are these? No matter how compassionate I might feel about some young INTP's loneliness, I'd just never take the bait.

[Philo]

Well if everyone feels like this then we need to get some interesting and relevent threads going, some proper discussion on thought provoking topics and a better quality of replies. Threads like this are useful for reminding everyone of this but talking about it does not solve the problem, so get out there and post some interesting less immature theads. :)

I know I am going to make more effort from now on to only add proper relevent and hopefully coherant input into the discussions. (well, i'll try).
jk

I'm not against your proposal, as I love good, thought-provoking threads, but what do you do when the post gets hijacked? I've had that happen a few times on other boards.

I tend to agree that it's not the physical age of the person in question that's the problem. Some people just don't grow out of that "school bully" mentality. You could complain to the admins, but even if they get kicked off the boards they'll just come back under a different pseudonym. Same problem, different name.

As far as feeling you can't post because you'll get jumped on, I say post anyway. At least you'll have the satisfaction of saying your piece (even if it is burried under a ton of garbage), and those that really are interested will find it.

If you're afraid your post will be ignored, don't be. A lot of times I won't respond, not because I didn't think what was posted was worth it, but because I really don't have anything to add (I hate "me too" post-whoring posts :) )

Just tossing my $0.02 into the mix.

[mgb]

Yes. But also the threads which are just exercises in futility. For example, the threads which involve an angsty male (not necessarily a teen) professing something like "I'm lonely. Do women not like nice men?" These seem to be a recurring theme, and often go on for pages and pages. But really, they can usually be summarized to:

- "I'm lonely. Do women not like nice men?"
- "Sure they do, but there's a diff. b/t 'nice' and 'wimpy'."
- "Bullshit. Why are women always lying?"

How stupid are these? No matter how compassionate I might feel about some young INTP's loneliness, I'd just never take the bait.

Hmmm. Yeah, I know what you mean. I don't take the bait either because I mostly don't give a shit if someone is worried that girls only like nice guys or not. And you are right because the ensuing argument is guaranteed to be as ridiculous as the question.

The "Gender Studies" forum used to be for women only, maybe it needs to be changed back to take out some of the poorer quality threads.

[Lee]

I'm not against your proposal, as I love good, thought-provoking threads, but what do you do when the post gets hijacked? I've had that happen a few times on other boards.

When this started happening on a thread I started I posted a huge lettered post saying......STAY ON TOPIC!


I tend to agree that it's not the physical age of the person in question that's the problem. Some people just don't grow out of that "school bully" mentality. You could complain to the admins, but even if they get kicked off the boards they'll just come back under a different pseudonym. Same problem, different name.

This could be partially solved by a change of forum culture by adhering to the idea expressed in my origional post.


As far as feeling you can't post because you'll get jumped on, I say post anyway. At least you'll have the satisfaction of saying your piece (even if it is burried under a ton of garbage), and those that really are interested will find it.If you're afraid your post will be ignored, don't be. A lot of times I won't respond, not because I didn't think what was posted was worth it, but because I really don't have anything to add

Very true, sometimes the best posts get no responses (such as yours on a few occasions :) ) because they deliver home such a valid logical argument nobody can respond with a counter point very easily.


(I hate "me too" post-whoring posts :) )

Me too ;)

Sometimes yes, however sometimes I would like people to know when I think they have posted a really good point or argument rather than leave them in limbo and unsure what people thought of thier post.

-Lee

[mgb]

When this started happening on a thread I started I posted a huge lettered post saying......STAY ON TOPIC!



This could be partially solved by a change of forum culture by adhering to the idea expressed in my origional post.



Very true, sometimes the best posts get no responses (such as yours on a few occasions :) ) because they deliver home such a valid logical argument nobody can respond with a counter point very easily.



Me too ;)

Sometimes yes, however sometimes I would like people to know when I think they have posted a really good point or argument rather than leave them in limbo, unsure what people thought of thier post.

-Lee


I find the easiest way to keep people on topic is to respond to their off topic concerns and link them back to the original topic. It can be a real problem, but maybe not as big a problem as multiple annoying mysoginistic threads.

Actually, maybe we need some sort of "are you feeling lonely" forum, that everyone but the lonely can ignore.

[tragula]

Here are my four and a half cents:


In the bigger scope, I suspect that not only do less women show up, but out of those who do, many just don’t end up staying.

I actually think this is a big problem. This forum should make all types and genders feel welcome. I would greatly prefer a better gender balanced forum myself. Oddly enough I have the feeling that some men here condone the female-unfriendly attitude with that exact goal in mind....


Or ban SG from starting threads with the words "Fuck" and "Women" in them :lol:

That would be a start.


I was miffed about Div 56's Hags poll, and I'm pleased the admins closed both of them. .

I thought the title of that thread was WAY out of line... I don't blame anyone for being miffed about that.

Ageism is another subtle issue in this forum....


What is the solution then? Make a rule saying "don't be an immature hormone-driven asshole guy"? It seems too subtle to be able to explicitly create rules about.

I think part of the solution is to more aggressively move threads to rants and raves. It's a good place for people to let loose, and even for lonely young men to whine about not having dates.

And that's a good way to keep the serious forums for serious topics. That would apply also to people who want to use a thread to "chat" about nothing and everything.

Lastly.

Everything has two sides. It's possible for people to create thought provoking threads that spark real discussion and don't align with common bullshit pc notions about gender.

After all this place isn't a coffee house for females with a superiority complex and a subconcious irrational loathing for men either....

[CreativeChaos]

Well all right since I can't delete this thread I'll use it.

Right now, the mood in here is: hostile

And who let the coffee klatch (http://redwing.hutman.net/~mreed/warriorshtm/coffeeklatch.htm) into this thread. This is a rant. It is no place for cute lil bunnies. :rant:

What DID YOU CALL ME!????

I RESENT the implication that I am THAT OLD!!!! This is AGEISM and I WON"T STAND FOR IT!!!! :rant:

And YOU are apparently TOO young to take this horny male crap seriously. IF you were MY age you'd see it for what it is!!! BOYS PLAYING LIKE BOYS!!! GIVE IT UP!!!! :rant:

AND I HATE THAT PIC AND THE IMPLICATION!!! :rant:

[Star]

lmao

I <3 you CC. :D

[mgb]

ahem,

"For Coffee Klatch the discussion forum is a social gathering - like Mah Jong or Wednesday morning canasta club. Coffee Klatch prefers a friendly, chatty environment and almost always limits her participation to non-technical forums."

I don't think it was meant as an insult.

[CreativeChaos]

ahem,

"For Coffee Klatch the discussion forum is a social gathering - like Mah Jong or Wednesday morning canasta club. Coffee Klatch prefers a friendly, chatty environment and almost always limits her participation to non-technical forums."

I don't think it was meant as an insult.

Yeah, well the lady is old enough to be MY grandmother! :angry:

And what the hell does THIS mean?


lmao

I <3 you CC.

[Star]

And what the hell does THIS mean?

It means *huggles*.

I'm nearly as old as you and in no way did I mean to judge you by your age. I was referring more to the CC/Songbird/Geoff chat threesome that flits from thread to thread cluttering it up with inside jokes and irrelevant one-liners.

Now please, I am very happy to see how well you can rant and flame, but you're kind of disrupting something here.

[CreativeChaos]

It means *huggles*.

I'm nearly as old as you and in no way did I mean to judge you by your age. I was referring more to the CC/Songbird/Geoff chat threesome that flits from thread to thread cluttering it up with inside jokes and irrelevant one-liners.

Now please, I am very happy to see how well you can rant and flame, but you're kind of disrupting something here.

Oh! :D Okay! I just didn't want anyone to think I was THAT old. AND of course my main intent was that I can RANT with the best of ya's. :p

:D

:hug:

[mgb]

Oh! :D Okay! I just didn't want anyone to think I was THAT old. AND of course my main intent was that I can RANT with the best of ya's. :p

:D

:hug:

hugs don't belong in the rants and raves section.

[songbird36]

It means *huggles*.

I'm nearly as old as you and in no way did I mean to judge you by your age. I was referring more to the CC/Songbird/Geoff chat threesome that flits from thread to thread cluttering it up with inside jokes and irrelevant one-liners.


Aren't we allowed to have fun Deepsky? Is that illegal on this forum or something? I'm not quite sure what the problem is here with a bit of frivolity (I post on a lot of serious topics as well)..

[Geoff]

It means *huggles*.

I'm nearly as old as you and in no way did I mean to judge you by your age. I was referring more to the CC/Songbird/Geoff chat threesome that flits from thread to thread cluttering it up with inside jokes and irrelevant one-liners.

Now please, I am very happy to see how well you can rant and flame, but you're kind of disrupting something here.

Give me a break, look at some of the in depth threads I post on, and post on seriously. Have a look at the objectivity thread of the other evening. I am here for serious reasons, but it doesnt mean it can't be fun too.

Did I not post seriously in response to this thread earlier on taking your points seriously? Bah.

Edit : I also take the time to post my photography for people to enjoy or not as the mood takes them. Dont dismiss me as frivolous for no good reason.

-Geoff

[mgb]

Give me a break, look at some of the in depth threads I post on, and post on seriously. Have a look at the objectivity thread of the other evening. I am here for serious reasons, but it doesnt mean it can't be fun too.

Did I not post seriously in response to this thread earlier on taking your points seriously? Bah.

-Geoff

I don't think she was insulting you, just making an observation. And it does happen. A lot of people do it, lately it has been you three.

Sure you can chat to people, just do it in the right places, not everywhere.

And she also didn't say you don't make any serious posts. I don't believe that is in question at all. Just your non-serious posts.

[Geoff]

I don't think she was insulting you, just making an observation. And it does happen. A lot of people do it, lately it has been you three.

Sure you can chat to people, just do it in the right places, not everywhere.

And she also didn't say you don't make any serious posts. I don't believe that is in question at all. Just your non-serious posts.

Hmm, OK valid point then I suppose. I can see why a serious thread does not need to be derailed - actually I never intend to do that, so if I am I will try and stop doing that from now on.

-Geoff

[Star]

Yes, yes, what mgb said. Geoff, I usually enjoy reading your posts, and CC's, when they're in the right place. I especially enjoyed the American vs European restaurant thread yesterday.

But..but c'mon, you're an INTP. Isn't there part of you that hates small talk?

(This thread is really turning into a headache, heh.)

[s0978]

Aren't we allowed to have fun Deepsky? Is that illegal on this forum or something? I'm not quite sure what the problem is here with a bit of frivolity (I post on a lot of serious topics as well)..

Of course we're here for fun too. But truthfully, Songbird, sometimes your posts, particularly those antagonizing Zedo, interfere with others' (my) enjoyment of the forums. I don't know the whole history (and don't care), but at least recently, it's seemed that you start in on him before he's even caught the thread. And then you guys do your thing and derail the whole thread. If it entertains you guys, cool. But maybe it could take place through pm or in some specified thread.

[songbird36]

Of course we're here for fun too. But truthfully, Songbird, sometimes your posts, particularly those antagonizing Zedo, interfere with others' (my) enjoyment of the forums. I don't know the whole history (and don't care), but at least recently, it's seemed that you start in on him before he's even caught the thread. And then you guys do your thing and derail the whole thread. If it entertains you guys, cool. But maybe it could take place through pm or in some specified thread.

You're right and I can totally understand your annoyance and that of others, about the continual bickering. I didn't start the war (he did) and for some time I let the comments go, hoping that he would leave me alone, but it didn't happen.

So recently I will admit that yes I have been rising to the bait more. It's hard to be slanged off it in a nasty way, and just "bite your lip". I am however determined to put a stop to this now though, so it won't be happening again you can be assured.

Please also note that I make a lot of serious posts on different topics.

[s0978]

I think part of the solution is to more aggressively move threads to rants and raves. It's a good place for people to let loose, and even for lonely young men to whine about not having dates.

Uh... for the record, I never said anyone was whining, and never spoke contemptuously about young men without dates or their loneliness. Part of the problem may be careless wordings or readings.


The "Gender Studies" forum used to be for women only, maybe it needs to be changed back to take out some of the poorer quality threads.

Well isn't that ironic. That's the section I was planning to definitely stay out of.

This is turning into group therapy or something.

[tragula]

For those of us who were continually irked by a certain someone's constant snippiness, Songbird's feistiness was often appreciated and applauded...

And she does indeed contribute plenty of insightful thoughts on different topics.

And I'm not sure that the official mood of INTP central should be Somber and really really Serious, just because many members have no sense of humor!

[Geoff]

Can we please not get into too much of a post mortem here, and just kill it off once and for all. Both members are clearly amusing at times, both have obviously wound each other and some others up at times, and hopefully both will stop doing it from now on in a public arena

*fingers crossed*

-Geoff

[songbird36]

Can we please not get into too much of a post mortem here, and just kill it off once and for all. Both members are clearly amusing at times, both have obviously wound each other and some others up at times, and hopefully both will stop doing it from now on in a public arena

*fingers crossed*

-Geoff

Yep. As far as I'm concerned the war's over. A cessation of hostilities has been declared and the parties are retreating to opposing camps..

[Dman]

I’m guessing I could probably find a post demonstrating where I personally have done most, if not every irritating thing mentioned in this thread, at one point or another. I’m also guessing that most people in THIS thread have as well (don’t make me find those posts, you know you have).

Lighten up. As for arguing, the beauty of arguing is that regardless of which “side” you take, when someone else fights strongly for the other “side”, you learn a lot more about the subject as a whole than just your own biased perceptions. This gives you a holistic perspective to think about the next time that subject comes up in your life.

“Holistic” is kind of a funny word, isn’t it? Sounds dirty, almost like an insult, but in reality it’s more of a sophisticated term.

Anyways, sorry about that little digression, but IMO the forums get a little out of hand when things start getting too personal, as we’ve seen lately. As for hijacked threads, endless arguing, subjects that come up over and over again – so what. It happens. Start a new thread about something more interesting. If it’s interesting enough, people will go there and post intelligent replies. If it breaks down or wanders off topic, get it back on topic. If that doesn’t work, well, guess it wasn’t interesting enough anymore. Start a different one.

[songbird36]

I’m guessing I could probably find a post demonstrating where I personally have done most, if not every irritating thing mentioned in this thread, at one point or another. I’m also guessing that most people in THIS thread have as well (don’t make me find those posts, you know you have).

Lighten up. As for arguing, the beauty of arguing is that regardless of which “side” you take, when someone else fights strongly for the other “side”, you learn a lot more about the subject as a whole than just your own biased perceptions. This gives you a holistic perspective to think about the next time that subject comes up in your life.

“Holistic” is kind of a funny word, isn’t it? Sounds dirty, almost like an insult, but in reality it’s more of a sophisticated term.

Anyways, sorry about that little digression, but IMO the forums get a little out of hand when things start getting too personal, as we’ve seen lately. As for hijacked threads, endless arguing, subjects that come up over and over again – so what. It happens. Start a new thread about something more interesting. If it’s interesting enough, people will go there and post intelligent replies. If it breaks down or wanders off topic, get it back on topic. If that doesn’t work, well, guess it wasn’t interesting enough anymore. Start a different one.

Wise advice indeed Dman - we shall all be taking it.

[jimkopelli]

Currently... There's a big ass fight going on, and I'm staying the hell out of it.

[Sackanaka]

Currently... There's a big ass fight going on, and I'm staying the hell out of it.
:cheers:

psst I find it best to not sound too argumentative.
staying ahead of the game by staying behind 8D

[jimkopelli]

:cheers:
Quite. Or something like that...

[CreativeChaos]

Okay, I don't know about the kick-ass fighting going on, but I would like to point out that I do a lot of serious posting too. Yesterday, no. But before that it was the Asperger syndrome, the Objective Subjective Reality, NF/NT ways of thinking, NF/NT humor, ect. I post in lumps on one thread.


HOWEVER! Back on topic. THis is a rant about frivolous, gender sucking threads and I go to collect them... be right back.

Let's Objectivy - by Helios ( I do really like Helios, though)...
http://forums.intpcentral.com/showpost.php?p=64463&postcount=1

http://forums.intpcentral.com/showpost.php?p=66845&postcount=1

http://forums.intpcentral.com/showpost.php?p=62026&postcount=1

http://forums.intpcentral.com/showpost.php?p=65503&postcount=1

http://forums.intpcentral.com/showpost.php?p=9032&postcount=1

http://forums.intpcentral.com/showpost.php?p=65879&postcount=1

http://forums.intpcentral.com/showpost.php?p=65879&postcount=1


Okay, that's all I saw. Of course the Adult section has a whole lot of crap in it. But then, just don't look. I for one am not the least bit curious about the multi-orgasm and aerolia threads. Haven't even looked to see what they are asking. Too gross.

[Star]

If we had reputation points, I'd spend all of mine on garak!

</proud to be an INTP>

[garak]

:hug: