why are 5w6 said to be hardcore intp

[san-cervaza]

just wondering

always thought 5w4 was too self indulgent anyhow

[Jennywocky]

just wondering

They gravitate more towards the stoic, science/scifi absent-minded scientist type, keeping fairly amiable but detached (or at least more into the "professional/social" rather than "intimate" approach) in their interactions with others.

5w4 becomes more humanistic and personal and ends up emoting more (or dealing with the spiritual/philosophical/artistic angle on things).


always thought 5w4 was too self indulgent anyhow

Yup, we are in some ways. And your point...?

[san-cervaza]

i see, that makes me a 5w5.65

[san-cervaza]

would you see rcoei as being 5w6. rcoei seems to lean towards intj but i still see it being compatible with a more aggressive intp type also

[rawr]

I am a 5w6. Not quite an INTP. The INT are strong, but j/p is ambiguous.

[Delilah]

What do you mean hardcore?
I'm INTP and a 5w6 and I don't feeeel hardcore......

[Madrigal]

I'm 5w6 too but I notice a lot of people here are 5w4s.


They gravitate more towards the stoic, science/scifi absent-minded scientist type, keeping fairly amiable but detached (or at least more into the "professional/social" rather than "intimate" approach) in their interactions with others.

5w4 becomes more humanistic and personal and ends up emoting more (or dealing with the spiritual/philosophical/artistic angle on things).
Then I've been mis-typed.

[trapstar]

So I finally looked this enneagram up after reading about it a couple of hundred times at this forum. Unfortunately I chose a bad test. I got equal scores on 3 and 5. Does that make me 5w3 or 3w5?

[puzzled-observer]

... I notice a lot of people here are 5w4s.




Perhaps that's because all the 5w6s are off being scientists and not perusing the internet for 'something else' as the general crowd in this forum seems to be.

edit: or maybe I'm just projecting. who knows.

[rhinosaur]

I got equal scores on 3 and 5. Does that make me 5w3 or 3w5?

No, the wing must be adjacent to the primary type. So you can be a 5w4, 5w6, 3w4, or 3w2, but not a 3w5 or 5w3. You should read descriptions of each type, and their wings, and decide which combination fits you best. I don't want to sway your opinion here, but the majority of INTPs here are type 5w4.

I recommend this site: http://www.eclecticenergies.com/

Also read these threads:
Enneagram Type 3 (http://forums.intpcentral.com/showthread.php?t=11284)
Enneagram Type/MBTI Type correlations (http://forums.intpcentral.com/showthread.php?t=19943&page=3)
The Great INTP Enneagram Poll (http://forums.intpcentral.com/showthread.php?t=20745)

[trapstar]

No, the wing must be adjacent to the primary type. So you can be a 5w4, 5w6, 3w4, or 3w2, but not a 3w5 or 5w3. You should read descriptions of each type, and their wings, and decide which combination fits you best. I don't want to sway your opinion here, but the majority of INTPs here are type 5w4.

I recommend this site: http://www.eclecticenergies.com/

Also read these threads:
Enneagram Type 3 (http://forums.intpcentral.com/showthread.php?t=11284)
Enneagram Type/MBTI Type correlations (http://forums.intpcentral.com/showthread.php?t=19943&page=3)
The Great INTP Enneagram Poll (http://forums.intpcentral.com/showthread.php?t=20745)

I tried reading the descriptions and I feel like they are extremely vague. Forer-effect or whatever.

What is the science behind this? It feels like a shot at fame and fortune for some money hungry psychiatrist.

Garbage

[cripple]

just wondering
Could it be because something like this? but not sure if all of this is hardcore intp;
http://mindheart.org/junction/oldcj/ep/types/5/56.html

The best of 5/6 brings together the powerful insight of five, the stamina and leadership of eight, the deep faith and genuineness of six, and the inner peace of nine. Extremely advanced 5/6 is a leader, using a magical level of perception to help others see themselves more clearly. Inspiring trust and respect, they explain human interactions in a way that teaches people to see the wholeness in the parts, demonstrating through their actions that society is one body.

always thought 5w4 was too self indulgent anyhow
The 5w6'es seems to be more people oriented then 5w4, so this might be right. At least if the above article is to be believed.

[lbloom]

(5w6) gravitate more ... absent-minded scientist type...


Perhaps that's because all the 5w6s are off being scientists ...

According to that last link, the 5w4s are more likely to be attracted to physics and nature than the 5w6s. I too always thought that I (5w4) was an anomaly on that count, but the link says not.


Healthy 5/4s begin to deeply understand the simple, elegant way that the awesome complexity of the world emerges from fundamental principles. They find great joy in watching and learning.

Sounds about right.

[ApeTheDog]

One difference I have noticed between me and 5w4 INTP's is that they're more prone to have a 4 wing, whilst I have a 6 wing.

They also seem more self-involved. Seem more into drugs, introverted experiences whilst I really would like to get along with, and understand other people, more - and be a part of society rather than be left alone from it, and with(in) it.

I really don't believe that introversion, reclusion, social isolation are a good thing. It should not be necesary.

[officehome&student]

5w6 self preservational is more the stereotypical INTP, from the descriptions etc... withdrawn, unemotinal, systematic thinker etc. But i guess 5w4s are more likely to be found on the internet and MBTI forums because they are less practical and more self absorbed rather than more common. 5w6 can be more like INTp and 5w4 like INtP.

[Seanan]

I just took the test here:

http://www.eclecticenergies.com/enneagram/type5.php

and came out 5w6. While I can see where the descriptions fit me, I'm suspicious. It just seems too indepth for such a brief test. MB took around 2 hours as I recall. Has anyone seen anything scientific to validate it?

[walfin]

i took a test on similarminds and came out 5w4 once and 4w5 once (pretty close scores between 4 and 5 both times)
is it even supposed 2 b possible for an intp 2 b a 4w5???

[Enjambment]

I just completed an enneagram test and the results said I was also a type 5w6 and my variant is SX. It appeared to be fairly accurate, but I am new to this and would need more time to study it in depth before coming to a conclusion.

I have an unsettled feeling with the whole concept of "typing". I just don't like the notion of putting people in neat little boxes and labeling them. There are always variables and anomalies to consider.

Maybe it's really just my deep rooted fear of commitment surfacing...A "type" seems so final, so definitive. I feel like there is some unseen rule of the cosmos that says "This is YOUR type. Do not RESIST. RESISTANCE IS FUTILE. CONFORM OR ELSE!" *shivers*:rules: :rules:

[bluebell]

Enneagram confuses me.

I relate to 9 and 5 pretty much equally if I read these descriptions:
http://www.enneagraminstitute.com/Typenine.asp
http://www.enneagraminstitute.com/Typefive.asp

I can often be torn between the two. For example at work, if someone questions my knowledge/insight, I can get into quite heated arguments and it's hard to avoid. But, afterwards, I feel really icky from having got into a conflict, and I spend a lot of time thinking about the argument afterwards to try to work out how I could have avoided it or de-escalated it earlier.

Dansker found this link today, and I don't relate to the 9 description at all. But the 5 description is very much me:
http://www.chriscaa.com.au/enntypes.htm


Halfway through writing this post, I did the test that Seanan linked to (the classical one, it went on and on and on...).



You are most likely a type 5 or 9.

Taking wings into account, you seem to be a 5w6.

It is not clear from these test results which Enneagram type and wing you are.

To determine your true type, you might want to start by considering the types with the highest scores on the lists below. Also, there are many fine books and other websites that contain detailed descriptions of the types. Consulting these might give you the information you need to determine your true type. As knowing your Enneagram type involves self-knowledge, you might want to observe and analyze your behavior and motivations. You might also benefit from taking the test again later.

LOL

[Ckyzxr]

They gravitate more towards the stoic, science/scifi absent-minded scientist type, keeping fairly amiable but detached (or at least more into the "professional/social" rather than "intimate" approach) in their interactions with others.

Yup. I'm that. At least that's how I observe myself.

[Oculus Sinister]

5w6 are more into politics. They seem very awkward socially at times. But this is only, I think because they have a need to be liked(6wing). So it is possible that they may try too hard at times? I am just speculating.

5w4 seems farther removed from politics. I saw a healthy 5w4 INTJ professor who was at the top of his game. Very humanistic and very inspiring. He showed us that people tend to rob themselves. This person was incredibly intuitive, almost psychically. Enneagram 5 at top of his game reaches foresight and predict and becomes a profound visionary. Enneagram 4 at the top of their game becomes truly authentic and inspiring.

I always thought that INTJ was the personality for 5w4 and that INTP was the personality for 5w6. According to Oldham's, this is the case.

5w4 is the perfect personality for research scientist and 5w6 the perfect personality for engineer. I think the 5w6 wants to make things work while the 5w4 wants to comprehend the awesome nature of a thing's beauty.

[officehome&student]

5w6 are more into politics. They seem very awkward socially at times. But this is only, I think because they have a need to be liked(6wing). So it is possible that they may try too hard at times? I am just speculating.

5w4 seems farther removed from politics. I saw a healthy 5w4 INTJ professor who was at the top of his game. Very humanistic and very inspiring. He showed us that people tend to rob themselves. This person was incredibly intuitive, almost psychically. Enneagram 5 at top of his game reaches foresight and predict and becomes a profound visionary. Enneagram 4 at the top of their game becomes truly authentic and inspiring.

I always thought that INTJ was the personality for 5w4 and that INTP was the personality for 5w6. According to Oldham's, this is the case.

5w4 is the perfect personality for research scientist and 5w6 the perfect personality for engineer. I think the 5w6 wants to make things work while the 5w4 wants to comprehend the awesome nature of a thing's beauty.

Actually, INTJs are more likely to be 5w6 than 5w4.

[fripping]

Actually, INTJs are more likely to be 5w6 than 5w4.
yeah, dude! i have no idea if that's theoretically true, but 5w6 intps have always seemed more like intjs to me than 5w4s. i don't know if intjs really are 5w6, or just resemble it or what, i'm not even so sure about enneagram itself. but i really agree with the ramifications of what you said.

it's my theory that 5w4s tend to be very P in the case of an intp and somewhat J with an intj (+.5P for either type), while 5w6 tends to be somewhat P with an intp and very J with an intj (+.5J for either type). this could be nonsense but it makes sense to me.

[cripple]

I've taken two different tests, and scored 5w6 and 4(5 close), respectivly, I guess that makes me a 5w4, or not settled yet.
http://www.eclecticenergies.com/enneagram/test.php
http://www.9types.com/newtest/homepage.actual.html

Edit, took the variant test on eclecticenergies.
You are most likely a type 5 (the Investigator) with 4 wing

Sexual variant

That settles it for me.

[aether]

I've scored 5w6 before.


I always thought that INTJ was the personality for 5w4 and that INTP was the personality for 5w6. According to Oldham's, this is the case.


I've thought the same thing.

[fripping]

i took a tally of the intjs on the intj forum and 5w6 (23 total) seems to be more prevalent among them than 5w4 (12 total).
http://intjforum.com/showthread.php?t=221&highlight=enneagram&page=1

["?"]

These are some distinctions of the two from Thomas Condon's Changeworks (http://www.thechangeworks.com/ennprimer/ennprimer.html):
Five With a 4 Wing

The difference between the 4 wing and the 6 wing in Fives is like the difference between Art and Science. 4 wing brings an abstract, intuitive cast of thought, as though the Five were thinking in geometric shapes instead of words or realistic images. May be talented artistically and inhabit moods like Fours do. Combine intellectual and emotional imagination. Enjoy the realm of philosophy and beautiful constructs of thought. The marriage of mental perspective and aesthetics is the best of life for them.

When more defensive may seem a little ghostly, have a whisper in their voice. Fluctuate between impersonal withdrawal and bursts of friendly caring. Can get floaty and abstract. Act like they're inside a bubble, sometimes with an air of implicit superiority. Clich? of the "absentminded professor" applies especially to Fives with this wing.

Environmentally sensitive and subject at times to total overwhelm. Touchy about criticism. Can be slow to recover from traumatic events. Melancholy isolation and bleak existential depression are possible pitfalls.

Real-Life Fives With a 4 Wing: Laurie Anderson, Samuel Beckett, Paul Bowles, Tim Burton, David Byrne, Agatha Christie, Daniel Day-Lewis, T.S. Eliot, Albert Einstein, Jeremy Irons, Philip Kaufman, Gary Larson, George Lucas, David Lynch, Peter Matthiessen, Ian McEwan, Thelonious Monk, Georgia O'Keefe,


Five With a 6 Wing

The 6 wing brings an orientation to detail and technical knowledge, along with the tendency to think in logical sequence. Especially intellectual, far more analytical than Fives with a 4 wing. Can be loyal friends, offering strong behind-the-scenes support. Kind, patient teachers, skillful experts. May have a sense of mission and work hard.

Sometimes project an aura of sensitive nerdiness and have clumsy social skills. When defensive, they can be unnerved by the expectations of others. May like people more but avoid them more. Especially sensitive to social indebtedness. Could have trouble saying "thank you." Fear of taking action, develop "information addiction" instead. Ask lots of questions but don't get around to the decision at hand.

When more entranced, they develop a suspicious scrutiny of other people's motives but can also be blind followers. Misanthropic and Scrooge-like when defensive. More able to keep their feelings cut off in a constant way. Can be cold, skeptical, ironic, and disassociated.

A Five's 6 wing can be phobic or counterphobic. Counterphobic 6 wing brings courage and antiauthoritarian attitudes. When defensive they may mock authority, or angrily tell others off. Tend to "push the envelope," experiment, find what the limits are.

Real-Life Fives With a 6 Wing: Michael Crichton, Bobby Fischer (counterphobic), Jane Goodall, H.R. Haldeman, Arthur (The Amazing) Kreskin, John le Carr?, Vladimir Lenin, Leonard Maltin, Sam Neill, Michelle Pfeiffer (counterphobic), Oliver Sacks, Ebenezer Scrooge, B. F. Skinner, George Stephanopoulos, Madeleine Stowe.

[Jennywocky]

I've thought the same thing.

Which still blows my mind, because the INTJs I know do NOT fit into the descriptions of 5w4. Some claim to have gotten that score, but I haven't met any actually INTJs who come across like 5w4s as per the description, they usually feel (i.e., "present") as Ones. Te driven by Ni has a strong impact on this.

And many many INTPs do score as 5w4s and present as 5w4s.

Weird. I'd like to know where this INTJ rumor is coming from.

[563 740]

You are most likely a type 5 or 9.

Taking wings into account, you seem to be a 5w6.

It is not clear from these test results which Enneagram type and wing you are.

To determine your true type, you might want to start by considering the types with the highest scores on the lists below. Also, there are many fine books and other websites that contain detailed descriptions of the types. Consulting these might give you the information you need to determine your true type. As knowing your Enneagram type involves self-knowledge, you might want to observe and analyze your behavior and motivations. You might also benefit from taking the test again later.

Heh, I broke that test too. I said I was most likely a type 5, but with wings it said 9w1?? :mellow:

[san-cervaza]

These are some distinctions of the two from Thomas Condon's Changeworks (http://www.thechangeworks.com/ennprimer/ennprimer.html):
shit, im both!

where did this intj rumour come from?

well ME

does individuality exist in the larger scheme of things
there are apparently some trees in california that stem for shit loads of miles but are essentially just one tree because they all share the same identical root structure

does this relate to mbti and that crazy indian "wave" regeneration
shit.

please dont ask me to expand on my question - i know not

[Jennywocky]

Heh, I broke that test too. I said I was most likely a type 5, but with wings it said 9w1?? :mellow:

No way!

I could see a straight Nine in lieu of Five (Nines and Fives often get mixed up with each other, due to similar interactive styles). Not sure about the 1 wing, though.

guess no one had any ideas about why INTJs actually don't seem to test much as 5w4, and why many many INTPs do. :(

[Hexapodia]

No way!

I could see a straight Nine in lieu of Five (Nines and Fives often get mixed up with each other, due to similar interactive styles). Not sure about the 1 wing, though.

guess no one had any ideas about why INTJs actually don't seem to test much as 5w4, and why many many INTPs do. :(

Sounds like I got something similar?

You are most likely a type 5.
Taking wings into account, you seem to be a 5w6 or 9w1.

[563 740]

No way!

I could see a straight Nine in lieu of Five (Nines and Fives often get mixed up with each other, due to similar interactive styles). Not sure about the 1 wing, though.

guess no one had any ideas about why INTJs actually don't seem to test much as 5w4, and why many many INTPs do. :(

Out of curiousity, what do ENTPs usually come up as?

[Jennywocky]

Out of curiousity, what do ENTPs usually come up as?

Sevens, I would think.

I think some have mentioned an Eight wing too. Not sure on that.

[Llewellyn]

I'm 5w6 too but I notice a lot of people here are 5w4s.

They [5w6, Ll.] gravitate more towards the stoic, science/scifi absent-minded scientist type, keeping fairly amiable but detached (or at least more into the "professional/social" rather than "intimate" approach) in their interactions with others.

5w4 becomes more humanistic and personal and ends up emoting more (or dealing with the spiritual/philosophical/artistic angle on things).


Then I've been mis-typed.

It would make me a 5w4 also (though I score generally slightly higher on 6 than on 4 and besides that am being said by Edge walker to be 9w1)

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Extrapolated suggestion from description in dutch (a joy to find such a good one in my native language):
INTP 5w6: scientist subtype
INTP 5w4: architect subtype (said to have a stronger S-function, perhaps having ISFP as second MBTI type - maybe Natalie Merchant?)

I don't care to be a scientist (anymore, if I ever did)... I rather enjoy creating (small) systems. And I've taken an extensive reflective stance. Or maybe I'm hiding as a 9.......... This last bit is a bit après-la-relevance and wordy.

[edge walker]

Many of the things with which w4 is delineated against w6 in profiles are in reality common to all 5s, but take a more F-ish quality (for lack of a better term) in w4s. This leads many 5w6s to think they're 5w4s, as it did me.

I've noticed that Ne and Ni often seem close in 5w4s.

I'm also noticing that by and large, 5w6s tend to be more societal idealists vs 5w4s more individual idealists.

Note also that 5w6 descriptions tend to be biased toward sp/soc, the instinctual variant with the most featureless inner life, which serves to further compound the detachment of 5w6. I actually find the unemotional, carefully analytical creature described in those profiles somewhat alien.

[ApeTheDog]

YOU CAN'T HANDLE THE TRUTH!

[Llewellyn]

@Edge: Don't you feel like creating a new profile?

[useless_information]

there are apparently some trees in california that stem for shit loads of miles but are essentially just one tree because they all share the same identical root structure


It is an aspen colony in Utah, their name is Pando.
80,000 years old.

[BM2106]

It is an aspen colony in Utah, their name is Pando.
80,000 years old.

Are the trees 5w4 or 5w6?

[Jynweythek]

Fucking novelty accounts better not invade this place, too.

[aether]

i took a tally of the intjs on the intj forum and 5w6 (23 total) seems to be more prevalent among them than 5w4 (12 total).
http://intjforum.com/showthread.php?t=221&highlight=enneagram&page=1

Maybe it's because INTJ forum probably has more NT (rational) topics. :dunno: I might join it just to see that poll and figure it out.


Which still blows my mind, because the INTJs I know do NOT fit into the descriptions of 5w4. Some claim to have gotten that score, but I haven't met any actually INTJs who come across like 5w4s as per the description, they usually feel (i.e., "present") as Ones. Te driven by Ni has a strong impact on this.

And many many INTPs do score as 5w4s and present as 5w4s.

Weird. I'd like to know where this INTJ rumor is coming from.

INTJ - 5w4 and INTP - 5w6 according to this: http://www.ptypes.com/correspondence.html

[Tootsie]

Is it? I'm a 5w6 INTP...And I'm really pretty sure about the INT part but my P is not that strong.

[Resonance]

Well, INTJs are generally perceived as more 'hardcore' than intps. But really...really?

Why are you so sure about the I part?

[aether]

I see that the majority of people here are 5w4 INTPs. Perhaps that is the reason I don't feel like I fit in very well yet I keep coming back. Anyway, I created a group for those INTPs that test 5w6 (http://forums.intpcentral.com/group.php?groupid=89). Hopefully this will be a nice little place where we can share similarities, experiences, thoughts, etc.

[Hawkx]

would you see rcoei as being 5w6. rcoei seems to lean towards intj but i still see it being compatible with a more aggressive intp type also

Your conclusion makes sense. I'm an INTJ with rcoei typing. My enneagram is type 5, I score different wings on different tests. For the most part however I've noticed that other people have to tell me that I'm crashing from over exhaustion or else I get involved in learning so much that I forget about my health. Right now its 5am and I haven't slept because I'm researching about enneagram and it's connection between INTJ and INTP. As for emotions I can't really feel any emotions, I'm detached from them.

[gps]

why are 5w6 said to be hardcore intp


Depends on who is doing the saying, doesn't it?

As a member of the 5w4 subspecies I tend to find the 5w6 and 6w5 types more dorky than 5w4, 4w5, 9w1, or 1w9.
If I want to find someone who others find a dork, dweeb, or nerd I go looking for the 5w6s 8-P

So basically, only a fool would say that (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yqVtM1hax7Y) 5w6 is `a' or `the' hardcore INTP.

[Thirsty]

These are some distinctions of the two from Thomas Condon's Changeworks (http://www.thechangeworks.com/ennprimer/ennprimer.html):


Five With a 4 Wing

The difference between the 4 wing and the 6 wing in Fives is like the difference between Art and Science. 4 wing brings an abstract, intuitive cast of thought, as though the Five were thinking in geometric shapes instead of words or realistic images. May be talented artistically and inhabit moods like Fours do. Combine intellectual and emotional imagination. Enjoy the realm of philosophy and beautiful constructs of thought. The marriage of mental perspective and aesthetics is the best of life for them.

When more defensive may seem a little ghostly, have a whisper in their voice. Fluctuate between impersonal withdrawal and bursts of friendly caring. Can get floaty and abstract. Act like they're inside a bubble, sometimes with an air of implicit superiority. Clich? of the "absentminded professor" applies especially to Fives with this wing.

Environmentally sensitive and subject at times to total overwhelm. Touchy about criticism. Can be slow to recover from traumatic events. Melancholy isolation and bleak existential depression are possible pitfalls.

Real-Life Fives With a 4 Wing: Laurie Anderson, Samuel Beckett, Paul Bowles, Tim Burton, David Byrne, Agatha Christie, Daniel Day-Lewis, T.S. Eliot, Albert Einstein, Jeremy Irons, Philip Kaufman, Gary Larson, George Lucas, David Lynch, Peter Matthiessen, Ian McEwan, Thelonious Monk, Georgia O'Keefe,


Five With a 6 Wing

The 6 wing brings an orientation to detail and technical knowledge, along with the tendency to think in logical sequence. Especially intellectual, far more analytical than Fives with a 4 wing. Can be loyal friends, offering strong behind-the-scenes support. Kind, patient teachers, skillful experts. May have a sense of mission and work hard.

Sometimes project an aura of sensitive nerdiness and have clumsy social skills. When defensive, they can be unnerved by the expectations of others. May like people more but avoid them more. Especially sensitive to social indebtedness. Could have trouble saying "thank you." Fear of taking action, develop "information addiction" instead. Ask lots of questions but don't get around to the decision at hand.

When more entranced, they develop a suspicious scrutiny of other people's motives but can also be blind followers. Misanthropic and Scrooge-like when defensive. More able to keep their feelings cut off in a constant way. Can be cold, skeptical, ironic, and disassociated.

A Five's 6 wing can be phobic or counterphobic. Counterphobic 6 wing brings courage and antiauthoritarian attitudes. When defensive they may mock authority, or angrily tell others off. Tend to "push the envelope," experiment, find what the limits are.

Real-Life Fives With a 6 Wing: Michael Crichton, Bobby Fischer (counterphobic), Jane Goodall, H.R. Haldeman, Arthur (The Amazing) Kreskin, John le Carr?, Vladimir Lenin, Leonard Maltin, Sam Neill, Michelle Pfeiffer (counterphobic), Oliver Sacks, Ebenezer Scrooge, B. F. Skinner, George Stephanopoulos, Madeleine Stowe.

This seems to be somewhat accurate. My "wings are Balanced", so I can't really confirm; perhaps someone else who leans towards one side can?

[Jasz]

I am a 5w4 sx and would agree that most of the descriptions of INTP's that I have read closer resemble 5w6's than 5w4's.

And as a matter of fact, I am pretty awesome. Therefore 5w4's are better than 5w6's. I don't care much for analysis so no need to try and prove me wrong with your irrelevant 5w6'ishness.

Jasz

[ApeTheDog]

I am a 5w4 sx and would agree that most of the descriptions of INTP's that I have read closer resemble 5w6's than 5w4's.

And as a matter of fact, I am pretty awesome. Therefore 5w4's are better than 5w6's. I don't care much for analysis so no need to try and prove me wrong with your irrelevant 5w6'ishness.

Jasz

Your argument fails, because I am even more awesome than you are. Therefor 5w6'er are even more awesome than 5w4's.

[Jasz]

Your argument fails, because I am even more awesome than you are. Therefor 5w6'er are even more awesome than 5w4's.

One-upmanship ... Soooooo 5w6'ish.

Jasz

[ApeTheDog]

Losing an argument. Classic 5w4.

[C.J.Woolf]

"I'm neither left-wing nor right-wing. I'm more middle-of-the-bird." -- Pat Paulsen, Presidential candidate, 1968.





Actually, I'm 5w6, and I'm laughing my ass off at both Jasz and Ape.

[nonperson]

I belong to 5w6 group here. But only because they asked me to join.

[Resonance]

I thought I posted this before, but I guess it froze before the transaction finished.

I'm supposedly either a 5w6 or a 6w5, with my 6 side being 'prussian' - like the hidden 3rd option instead of phobic or counterphobic. This is according to some interviews (the results were not consistent)

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Speaking of third options - Ape, why no E on therefore? Is it a typo? A political statement about the state of modern linguistics? Or do you just not know how to spell?

[ApeTheDog]

I thought I posted this before, but I guess it froze before the transaction finished.

I'm supposedly either a 5w6 or a 6w5, with my 6 side being 'prussian' - like the hidden 3rd option instead of phobic or counterphobic. This is according to some interviews (the results were not consistent)

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Speaking of third options - Ape, why no E on therefore? Is it a typo? A political statement about the state of modern linguistics? Or do you just not know how to spell?

The latter + habit.

[Lux]

I think a lot of INTJs mistype as 5w6, simply because they can't stand the thought of being the less intellectual five. They're very egotistical and defensive about their intellect because many, having had terrible social experiences and being constantly rejected, see their smarts as the last claim to superiority, so they use their intellect to rationalize rejecting society. Many will proclaim and pride (emotion?) themselves on having no emotions.

[OrionzRevenge]

^^^Gee
I'm glad INTPs don't have hang-ups like that. O.o